or something is appropriate in a comedy, when on the topic of faith, this is always due to the fact that a huge amount of humor, this arises one way or another, themes in some jokes on this topic and so on, but great, that it was never necessary, relatively speaking, to directly monitor this from the point of view of the fact that there are some rules, something else, but we have experience in tv series, when we looked at how appropriate this is in the work, inappropriate, but always the author ... i myself was wondering, this line, of course, well, i have to, this one here self-awareness, as if it should be there anyway, it’s clear that the conversation is endless, and the broadcast is finite, so i have to wrap it up, but it’s really very important to me, this is what i wanted to offer you and offered as a criterion, this is not my thought, it was yuri mikhailovich lotman who spoke, he defined it, really, he wasn’t talking about humor, he was saying who a cultured person is, he said, we each have our own pain threshold. yes, your circle, people, touching whom

you feel pain, that’s what he said, a cultured person is someone who is hurt by the pain of others, and so, that is, a person with the widest possible circle, an absolutely evangelical thought, and it seems to me that i really wanted to just during this serious conversation of ours and in our time, when it seems to me , this is not obvious at all, when people not only feel pain from someone else’s pain, but they like it. they like it when they put a person in pain, yes, i would really like us to talk about this today and discuss it, i think this is very important, well, yes, when we laugh at other people’s pain, this it’s taking us a little bit into the middle ages, now a new program will start, because i ’m struggling with this stereotype, as you are with questions, but the middle ages are an interesting, complex era in which there was a lot of good things in the comedy middle ages, let’s do it, thank you dear friends, i am very

grateful to you for your patience, for your indulgence, and i think that if you agree, maybe we will get our thoughts together again, the main thing is that it will be interesting for the audience and listeners, so i’ll look from the outside and decide, let’s get it together we will do it again or not, no show me, thank you very much, andrey, gordeev said, i’m vladimir ligoida, we were gathering our thoughts on a serious topic, what is humor? hello, i’m dmitry bak, right here we have the next episode of a literary podcast, which is called, as you remember, let them not talk, let them read, today we will talk and read anna’s poems.

andreevna akhmatovo, anna andreevna akhmatova was born on june 23 - in such a wonderful season - the season of white nights in 1889, this year she turns 135 years old, 135 years of her eternal journey in our hearts, in our books, in our thoughts, we will talk about this today with wonderful guests, the people's artist of russia. rutberg, hello, julia, with the philologist, art historian, a person who has been very involved in the poetry of the silver age, vera vladimirovna kolmykova. hello, vera. hello, well, akhmatova appears in st. petersburg, in tsarskoye selo, here is her debut, the beginning of the tenth years, pre-war time, what was the most important thing there? the role that amazed everyone,

akhmatova’s appearance, yes, many were amazed, her involvement in different localities, either her unusual poems, or a prophetic gift, they talk a lot about this, yes, she writes about it herself, yes, that i can smell the water, near the blue sea endlessly, yes, her sleepwalking, mystery , what shocked everyone in these, probably, first four books, evening, the twelfth year, clear. the fourteenth year, which was then published nine times, it was an absolute hit, then the white flock, yes, plantain, these, you know, i - i really perceive akhmatova, through the myths that exist about her, i really like i liked the myth when she came up with the idea that her ancestor was the last khan of the golden horde, a descendant of chengis khan himself, yes, yes, that she was a chenghizite, yes, you see, this is what anna andreevna is all about, here she is.

with everyone, yes, and, how can i say, well, probably, if she weren’t like that, there wouldn’t be such poems, it’s probably appropriate for these young, non-standard poems, surprising for contemporaries, to be read by young modern actresses,

school students mkhat studio, let's give the floor to sofya loginova, oh, i didn't lock the door, i didn't light the candles, you don't know how... having gotten up, i didn’t dare to lie down, watch the stripes fade away, in the sunset canopy of pine needles, getting drunk with the sound of a voice similar to yours, and knowing that everything was lost, that life was a damned hell, oh, i was sure that you would come back, ver , what can you say, after all, here is the debut, myths, plots, mystery and so on, but so are the poems themselves. 1910, gumilyov brings gumelvitsa, this is yuri verkhovsky’s witticism, from a honeymoon trip from paris, brings her in june of the tenth year and begins to get to know everyone, how she looks, thin,

pale, quiet, modest, silent, painful, in general, just like that... charges of the same name came together and two people were equally great in their talent, so it seems to me that a lot of them, yes, that was

what attracted them, because when gumilyov died, when he was shot, then for anna andreevna in the same poem without a hero and so on, for her there was always a kumilyov, the farther, the closer he was, the first person who... here are huge works, the book yakhimbaom even with himself, here it is, what each poem by akhmatov is a squeezed novel, the first bryusov said about this, yeah, well, this is like a plot from the life of a woman, but it turns out that way, not always women, no, no, not necessarily

women, just a novel, these are simple poems or complex, complex, complex, complex, for that , in order to read akhmatova, she was, how to say, perceived in her... in complex poems you need to find great simplicity, you need to tell a story, there is a secret there, i agree that it is complex, not simple, well, let’s take the most christ-like clenched my hands under a dark veil because of something today i am pale because i tart, sadness, got him drunk until he was drunk, here the difficulty begins when she says it until she’s drunk, that is, there’s someone third, someone already fourth, who says why are you drunk today, someone sustrana. but it’s not him, yes, because she says, not you, someone fourth, because the third is the reader, yes, who reads it all, and he gets involved in this situation, let’s tell this novel, my version is like this , this is a love date, yes, some person, a man enters a woman,

apparently in a great mood, then something happens, she tells him something, and he doesn’t understand the reason for this, but apparently. when we don’t have a prose novel, then the reader completes this reason for himself, you

know, in general in her poems very often she says that she is right, and not someone else, well, yes, she insists that that all actions, everything, yes, for example, not weeks, not months, years separated, here, finally, the chill of us...

i was 13 years old, as it should be, at the age of an akhmatova high school student, the reader of the first

book, i opened it , started reading right away i got there, the only thing was that there was a problem, i couldn’t understand why there was a dark-skinned youth there, the fourth poem, what kind of dark-skinned youth, let’s pause, well, such an experiment, now here are 3 seconds of silence, and you, each of you, our dear interlocutors on the other side of the screen, answer this question: do you know who this is? the dark-skinned youth wandered along the alleys, along the sad lake shores, and we cherish centuries, ate the audible rustle of footsteps, pine needles, thick, and prickly trees, covered low stumps, here lay his cocked hat, and disheveled volume guys, this is pushkin after a pause, i... yes, she was delighted with the act of mandelstam, who learned

italian in order to read dante alegheri in the original, she believed that this was such an unthinkable act, but at the same time, i tell you why genius, she has a humorous poem, i generally really love akhmatova, where there is humor, because, as practice has shown, she is considered, only for joy no one comes to her, only breaks, expenses, breakups, she is an apologist for everything this, here. but she has a wonderful poem that is very rarely heard there, but it’s like that, not the whole world, but i really like it. for a long time i don’t believe in telephones, in radio, i don’t believe in the telegraph, i have everything. everyone has their own laws and perhaps a wild disposition, but i can dream about them, and i don’t need to fly to the one to end up somewhere, to conquer any height, you know, this is also anna andreevna akhmatova, and now the same young poems of young

akhmatova, almost still debutantes, read by a student. studio mhad ekaterina glushko. every day is new and more alarming the smell of ripe rye, if you are laid at my feet, lie tenderly. orioles scream in the wide maples. now they won't be quieted until nightfall. i love you from your green eyes. to drive away the merry wasps, on the road the bell rang, we remember this light ringing, i will sing you, so that you do not cry, a song about the evening of separation,

it seems to me that akhmatova is great because in her poetry, through what... she experienced , she speaks gigantically about time, gigantically about destinies, gigantically about positions, gigantically about breaks, the russian emigration does not accept her because she makes her decision, yes, then she writes absolutely phenomenally about the war, and in general, anna andreevna, like many, yes, but many...

so, she answered these questions, she answered, well, i, she not only lived at that time , yes, she seemed to absorb all this ; she had enough poetry and the gift of god and herself, well, that is, maybe it would be correct to say that she wrote about the private, concrete... personal, which everyone seems to experience, but came to unthinkable generalizations, and this happened to everyone, i can only say one thing, that anna andreevna, if we talk about dante, yes, she has amazing short lines, yes, when she speaks, she stood for a long time at

the heavy gates of hell, but it was quiet and dark in hell. “oh, even the devil doesn’t need me, where will i go, or does she have lines, i grant forgiveness to everyone, on the resurrection of christ, i kiss those who betrayed me on the forehead, and not those who betrayed me on the lips, it seems to me that from earlier akhmatovo, who is beautiful, great and so given, and although she acted as a counter officer’s widow and flogged herself, she said that she was stupid, right?” " then empty, this is her attitude towards herself, because the poems there are magnificent, beautiful, and what drama there is in her early poems, and how she became wise, very - how to say, not childish, there is enough in that, i learned to just live wisely , yes, look at the sky and pray to god, and wander for a long time before the evening

in order to tire out unnecessary anxiety, when the mugs are rustling in the enemy and sadness disappears... you knock, it seems to me that i won’t even hear, yes, here she is, of course, beautiful , she’s a hooligan, she’s an okomeist and...

after all, this is a turning point in akhmatova’s work, in my opinion, this is the twenty-first year, the death of blok, the death of gumelev, of course, yes, and other events that akhmatova makes a very difficult choice, here is her next collection, this is just the collection of anno domini, this is not just the summer of the lord, but anno year, summer, the name anna is here, yes, of course, this book contains the twenty-first year in the title.

that - i would like to come, arrange it for me, uh, you will be a real friend, yes, but that is , she wanted to go there, and she probably had some kind of intention, maybe yes, an intention, but it remained an intention, because then she made a decision, all this in her poems, she remained forever in russia and, how to say, she experienced everything that she experienced, and it was a conscious choice, a conscious, clear choice, oh i have to tell him, i’m afraid. to reproduce something inaccurate not with those who abandoned the earth, the earth to the wrath of the enemies, and rude flattery, i will not heed, i will not give them my songs, but

this is what we know, that the assessments are late, but the truth will be every hour, but there are no people in the world without tears, arrogance, and simpler than us, this amazing poems, this is the year 22, this was such a word, he called comfortingly, yes of course. come here, leave your land, deaf, sinful, leave, i will wash the blood from your hands, i will take out the black shame from your heart, i will cover the pain, the defeat of insults with a new name, but indifferently calmly, with my hands i closed my ears, so that with this speech, unworthy, the sorrowful spirit has become defiled, so she gets up as if she had been killed, but why did we feel light? this is what we poor people thought, but this is an early book, that is, this theme of renunciations, a theme, as it were, it appears in white

flock, it does not immediately appear in your house, it is still in the white flock, that is, the poet must be open to the world, life gives, sends new challenges, the poet reacts to them, a requiem is for a ruptured aorta, and this is what she splashes out. it’s not for nothing that she writes about this woman who said: can you describe this? i can, this is about the one who has never read my poems, you see, it seems to me that everything we do now, in principle, we are not counting on those who will add something to us year, month, and so on, on those who may have never read, and to understand what were repressions, and for her repressions -

degrees yes, then, yes, punina, she wrote to stalin, and the first time they were released, she was ready to stand in these crosses, she was like a demon, i renounced, yes, she at some

point... she renounced everything, she really was, as i feel, ready to do everything to keep the boy alive, you know, the more terrible their relationship after, and her fate, and what a contrast there is again, even , and what a new eon, yes, a new turn, because this is the same woman, the same poet who wrote about the swan - the black veil, dark veil, and so on, suddenly this, this amazing story:

everything, well, like twelve, yes, this is this poem, one of the parts of this poem looks just like, a love poem, a stone word fell on my still living chest, nothing , because i was ready, i’ll cope with this somehow, i have a lot to do today, i need to completely kill my memory, i need my soul to petrify, i need to learn to live again, otherwise, and so on. if we take this text out of context, we end up with a wonderful love poem, yeah, that's the point and the point is that nothing can be torn out of akhmatova, but the spherical life, someday in this country will be erected, planned as monuments, this is a separate topic, answers to questions are just like this terrible poem about the zasofs and how they walked up to the poor earlier they were walking through the capital,

yes, leningraders are walking in orderly rows, the living with the dead, for the god of the dead, no, this is one of the greatest, again, this word is very important, of course, leningrad, i also call it that when everything about dad my dad is from leningrad, yes, but i go to st. petersburg, this is the whole history of the country.

also, of course, we cannot help but touch on two topics, they are also, well, either mythological, or standard, or risky, well, let’s talk about it, after all, zhdanov’s decree, 1946, yes, about a star, about magazines star leningrad, akhmatov and zoshchenko, the main victims, the main objects of murderous criticism, offensive, vile and so on, but still, what was in it, why is akhmatova, well, so dangerous to the soviet power or?

to drive across the chest of one fragile woman, she just, well, how can i say, she had to be put in her place by a demonstrative spanking. uh-huh, unhealthy, and what does this have to do with unhealthyness, she didn’t blame herself in 15, well, yes, it all grows over the years, take away the child and the friend, the child was imprisoned three times, the friend, well,

the husband was shot, and so on, with all that at the same time, she absolutely remained with herself, she didn’t change a hair’s breadth about herself, but some kind of... this is another myth, not a myth, but her, well, i’m talking about akhmatov’s orphans, so-called, yes, and not so -called, and this is a practical term, yes, these four poets, brodsky, bobyshev, naiman and rein, anatoly genrikhovich naiman, making a report on akhmatovo, and you remember the first words, he said four sentences , managed to, the first sentence he said was akhmatova’s wonderful creature, and then he said about the silent period. i’ll tell you that when i decided to do the program, thanks to the red cat who looked at me there during akhmatova’s readings on her anniversary, the director of the museum, who treated me very well,

she says: yuli, i’m warning you, very carefully, of course, you know, akhmatova is one of those people, she’s like tsvitaeva, she’s like bulgakov, yes, gogol, she influences us. yes, and he doesn’t just influence, he wants to prohibit, just like alexander sergeevich pushkin, firstly, they give signs, and akhmatova gives some signs, she intervenes, she doesn’t intervene, she covers up, allows, this is someone... then it may seem that you and i are crazy, no, since she herself is a mystical person, that’s a mythological one, that’s all exactly like that, that’s all, i think that it is very important that she had three ackermans at once, yes, we know,

what you said is absolutely accurate, then a lot of things happened to her, she brought about her future tragedies, she programmed them, well, she was in them became stronger at the same time, yes, well, she herself wrote that she was stronger, yes, she, she wrote that

she cultivated this very tenacity, so to speak, that’s the point, it all started with a poet who seems to be writing there about gloves and a skirt.

and i remember his conversation, and i hear ours conversations, our style, we speak like akhmata, what she did is our language, she did it or maybe completed it, and not what she did, the mule, made launches on this one. the fact that we really don’t like snottyness, sentimentality, that we, after all, this is already what it is, she said, this is what we are saying, well, it’s clear, maybe, let ’s finish with this, yulia, maybe very famous lines, yes, about women, akhmatova , of course, did not like it when she was called a poet, she is a poet, but nevertheless, she also has a wonderful sparkling line about women quatrain, she was self-ironic, because...

as if it was given to create or laura the heat of love to glorify you, i taught women to speak, but god, how can i silence them, we will not force you, our dear interlocutors, to remain silent, we, on the contrary, you we encourage you to talk about anna akhmatova, but the main thing is to read anna akhmatova, we had a wonderful conversation, and i think, after all, that... we went along this spherical spherical

trajectory, so that everything was connected, at least , it seems so to us, me and mine wonderful guests, people's artist of russia, actress of the vakhtangov theater yulia rutberg, thank you very much, yulia, i am sure that we will see each other again, and philologist and art historian vera kolmykova, ver, thank you very much for this conversation, thank you, i think we will see you again more than once let's talk about banna akhmatova. to you, our dear friends, i say again, with emphasis, consider it with pleasure, dear friends, i greet you, friends, this is a podcast of the chronicle of the end of times and i, eugene, today i will tell you about the first and... soviet union,

more precisely, in new russia itself, because in april of the ninety-first year this competition was held, it was held on board the georgian motor ship, it was a cruise on the mediterranean sea, and after that, i repeat, this format of entertainment became very popular in the early nineties, in which actually concluded. competition, then, when the soviet union collapsed,

these miss press competitions continued, they were done by the same people, it was just called miss press, well, talk to beautiful, young, promising journalists, i was a member of the jury of this competition, i got this position on the jury not because i understood female beauty there, or even understood anything about it, the fact is that the person who organized this competition was alexey roman. a sports journalist who had this entrepreneurial streak, he understood that, uh, by inviting me as a judge on the jury, he would get airtime on channel one, because at that moment i was collaborating with the television company vid, and had previously been a co-host of the program look, which was actually such a key element in the vid company, in inheritance from the program look. the television company received a broadcast on friday evening, which

it filled with a variety of projects, new ones, because the program was, let me remind you, closed to those in the tank, that is, he understood that it would be on the air, that is, it was like this, well, relatively speaking, barter, i don’t know how it turned out with the rest, members of the jury, which we will talk about later, and indeed the television company vid e made a film called: miss ussr. and, by the way, the director of this film was ivan ivanovich demidov. before this , unknown to the country, because he was a director, directors are shady people, as a rule, but... after this film, he launched the muzaboz project, became the helmsman, the helmsman of muzaboz, one of the most famous tv guru presenters in general, oh well, the song is not about him at all. so, this competition was invented because, in general, in principle, these beauty contests in the last years of the soviet

union, during the times of the end of times, became very popular, that is, because it was such a certain element. western life, yeah or forbidden, girls in swimsuits show themselves, make one or another career, by the way, my beloved colleague leonit arkadyevich yakubovich began as a conference host for these beauty contests, i’m not talking about the miss press contest, i’m saying, there were a lot of these contests, just alyosha romanov. he came up with the idea of ​​doing these cruises, these cruises became very popular, good money was earned, there were scandals with these cruises, i remember that the first contact was with vladislav listiv, a famous tv presenter, a favorite of the country and the first head of

- ort, actually the first channel, he was just because of these competitions when he showed up in his office. sasha gypsy, sasha gypsy was such a bandit, yuri shmilelich azershpits introduced me to him, well, there was a whole podcast , by the way, about bandits from show business, a podcast from the chronicle of the end of times line, you can find it on the website 1tv.ru, sasha gypsy was such a philanthropist , that is, he really liked sponsoring new projects, he helped start such an artist as vlad stashevsky, so... he really wanted to be a co-founder of these cruises, he and vlad vladislav nikolaevich listin did not find a common language at that time and vladislav called the then very famous security official rushail, the rebels came here to people, there was what is called a mask show, well then, naturally

, the gypsy was released and he went on these cruises in the sense that in general these cruises attracted a variety of players in the information... field and businessmen, and journalists and bandits, on this first cruise of the ussr missres, which i will repeat, romanov organized, but behind him there was another person, a businessman such, golomov, then i introduced him to kersan lyumzhin, then he spent the last years in prison, i don’t know on what matters, but this means that he is a former officer of the soviet army, he had an idea of ​​​​where he could ... he earned money from working on these cruises, in particular , the premiere was the miss press of the ussr cruise, journalists from a variety of publications were selected there, in particular, the tv company vid was represented by yana chernukha, who later got a job on air, like almost all the participants

in this competition , as this enticement and bait for people. who paid for tickets, for the opportunity to travel and hang out with the stars, musicians acted as bait, well, there were such rock bands, it was like a time machine, alexander borisevich gradsky went on the next cruise, we were friends with my submission, and i, because was a permanent member of the jury, then he invited sasha, and many of those musicians who are now rumored to have just exploded, this year, in the ninety-first year , the first album of oleg gazman was released, in my the archive still has a photograph of georgia on board this ship.