to call you in the room whenever you want, i’m unaccustomed to living separately, the vestibular apparatus is not designed, i lose my balance, again the chapler, he sent her these notes on the train, good morning, chapler, it’s just that there is such and such a carriage, such and such a place, i did it in the morning in your honor there’s a forced march to mayakovskaya, i just can’t stop admiring how good i am, my dear, what a shame that i can’t say anything necessary, kiss you according to the number of kilometers separating us, count up, your husband is like that... you say kapler, well, of course they are very alive relationships, they are interesting and here are two talented people, how does it happen, from a garbage fool, you made me just a fool who understood something in life, i love you incredibly, and it always pierces me to the very depths when i look at you, and i’m so proud of you, as if you were my child, and i gave birth to you like this, your person always and forever, well, it’s amazing, of course it’s simple. all this lasted uh 19 years,

that’s a very long time, that is, the relationship was alive until the very end, he was so mature that he understood that he had once she would leave much earlier than she did, and he was very worried about this, and he put straw on her in every possible way, and i - about the fact that kapler began to fade away, well, they lived happily for 19 years, and he - she had a good influence on kapler , yulia drunina, she forced... to walk, they walked around the old crimea, walked along all these paths of voloshin in like a tebel, so he even lost weight there, became healthier, in general there are advantages to living with a young woman, of course, and then, when you're all in black, loaded with black melancholy, it wouldn't occur to you to write a script, striped flight, oh yes, a striped flight is written only when everything around you is blue and green, and what a romantic amphibious man there is. and

romance, and it so happened that yulia dronina tamed this lavilas, this moscow star, everyone then laughed at kapler, but he was calm about the fact that they called him a henpecked man, that they laughed at him, that he is generally all great men , starting from rastrapovich, like to call themselves henpecked. it’s not that they don’t sit down, but they are proud, but what a heel, you know, many in marriages, in new ones, degrade, because this train, the burden, the feeling of guilt, they are lowered to the bottom, someone on the contrary, at the expense of the partner, suddenly shoots up like this, grows, that’s when something is real, there is no such thing as unhappy love, there is no such thing, don’t be afraid to get into the epicenter of a super-powerful explosion, which is called hopeless... passion,

if a flame bursts into the soul, souls are cleansed in the fire, for this, with dry lips, thank you, whisper to spring. well, she associates love with a cleansing flame, but you larisa, you argue that she is an amazon, well, she has a mythological consciousness in which, than the worse, the better, that is, love is a cleansing flame, that is, what is it, and what is it, the worse it was for her? some people need to write and create when everything is bad for them, yes, and for others, when everything is good and full for them, it seems to me that yulia drunina, well, otherwise we’ll trace it further now, everything was fine with poetry when it was all in her heart, her soul was more or less quiet. peace and

prosperity, yes, this can be seen, that is, when she had difficult times, she did not write the elements, when everything was fine, steve walked. this is a podcast of letters, i am larisa guzeeva, my guest is agla ibatnikova, we are talking today, we remember today yulia drunina, who would have turned 100 years old on may 10. of course they were happy.

an opportunity, because it is clear that alexei kapler left, at least there was a place to live , something to drive, the world is starting to change, the country is starting to change, well, by that time she was already an honored person, she already had several poems that everyone remembers, several

collections poems, there are poems that she remembers, probably everyone, i i only saw hand-to-hand combat once, once against eve. and a thousand in a dream, whoever says that it’s not scary in war knows nothing about war, in general, in my opinion, everyone remembers this verse, that is , she still had such literary merits by that time, and even kapler, one of the telegrams is dedicated to her, he read her books, she was away, he read her collection from... not only as a woman, but also her literary self, i would say, maybe there is no other way to the heart of a poet, other than admiring her poetry, probably, well, with a backbone like hers

it seems to me that it was possible for yulia drunina to survive these times; she was not yet old and was not seventy. i ’m interested in what happened, she went to the white house, she stood in the front row, she didn’t want new changes, she didn’t want that new life, and i understand why, because my grandfather also belonged to the same generation , at the time of perestroika, my grandfather got cancer there, he was an officer , also a military officer, that’s it. no, the whole country, what it was, is fake, it’s all wrong, the principles and rules of that

the old life generally needs to be washed away from this earth, now we will build a new life, she wanted to defend that country with those interests, with those principles.

the poem is about this, so she analyzes that this situation with marina, then it turns out that she herself is the same. leaves, i think that the chair was knocked out from under her body when kapler left, of course, in this she lost the meaning, i think that if kapler was alive, then she was alive, she didn’t have, she didn’t have personal rear, the privateer represented this rear, although he himself was a creative person, why am i leaving, yes, why am i leaving, in my opinion, to stay in this terrible, quarrelsome world created for businessmen with iron elbows, such an imperfect creature like me... is only possible with a strong rear, she means here the captain and nothing more ,

it’s a pity that yulia drunina left during this period of precisely this darkness of darkness, when it was unclear what the prospects were, it was unclear what would happen to russia, what would happen to everyone who was involved in culture at that moment, but well, she left for she didn't see that moment i don’t know of some kind, the return of a rush of blood, then to these dead organs. well, yes, 100 years old, she’s 100 years old, i think she would have already turned a year old, today it wouldn’t be so gloomy, look what a mockery, and fate, she learned to drive a car, many, by the way, are very famous people, the great ones worked part-time as a driver, so that later they could end their life in a car, but this car could be used not as, so to speak, an assistant in order to leave this life, but in order to survive, i know very well...

and i would like to read: and where does strength suddenly come from at an hour when it’s black in the soul, if i weren’t a daughter of russia, i would have given up long ago, i would have given up in 1941, remember, the defensive ditches, as if exposed nerves snaked around moscow , funerals, wounds, ashes, memory, don’t tear my soul apart with war, only time...

thank you very much, thank you very much, larisa, for calling me, it’s a great honor for me that you came,

hello everyone, everyone wants a podcast on the first channel fly, i am its host leonid yakubovich, we are with you today, if let me remember. tragic-heroic epic. it was not for nothing that i allowed myself this term. the epic is truly tragic, and the epic is truly heroic. 90 years ago, on april 13, 1934, the rescue operation of the chelyuskinites ended. well, let's go chronologically. thirty-second, thirty-third years. large-scale research work on the development of the arctic begins in the soviet union. true, the work is hard, difficult, because practically

, if they walked along the northern sea route, it was incredibly rare, there was practically no information, however, the head of the project of the chapters of all the sea voyages, otto yulievich schmidt, was an incredibly enthusiastic, incredibly ambitious person, who wrote many notes, reports that he was ready immediately, now in... everything- finally convinced the government that he was ready to overcome the northern sea route on the steamship cheluskin, and the government agreed to this. not right away, not right away, because the degree of risk was still very high. so, august 2, 1933, the ship icebreaker type chelyuskin, which was generally first called lena, because it was built in denmark, several such ships were built, it was intended to carry

cargo to leni, so it was named lena, renamed in honor of semyon cheryuskin, here on august 2, 1900 thirty-third year, he set off from murmansk, on board there were 53 crew members, 29 expedition members, 18 winterers, there were also 12 builders, in general, they set out, they also carried with them 3 tons of coal, 500 tons of water, four pigs , which during the time the roads, by the way, became hefty hogs, everything would have been fine, and, by the way, on board was... the seaplane of the pilot babushkin, the plane was called sh-2. it was actually intended for reconnaissance flights, to determine the course from the ship, so that it was possible to bypass the pack ice. i repeat, the ship was not an icebreaker, it was an icebreaker-type steamship, well, how can i tell you, i and no one at that time and it

was still a dubious story, dubious, there was a huge risk, but nevertheless, what happened to... . it happened that the ship was sailing and sailing. quite tightly, entered the kart sea, the ship developed a deformation of the hull, this is natural, to the horror of the crew of everyone who was on board, it was broken, no matter how they fought to save the side, on august 13, thirty -three, a leak formed, and there in the kara sea, in in general, it began to be covered with ice, then a joyful event happened, as by the way, fate arranges quite... happiness and joy. on board , a daughter is born into the family of surveyor vasilyev. due to the fact that they are in the kara sea, she was naturally named karina. well everything was nice, but nevertheless it is impossible to stop the flow. this means that on november 6, 1933, the ship

entered the bering strait, and a radiogram about success was sent to moscow. despite the leak, then the ice began to move in the opposite direction, clamped to chelyuskin, the ship was again washed out into the chukchi sea, there the ship was finally frozen into a large ice floe, the thickness of which reached from half a meter to one and a half meters, and for 3 months it drifted along with ledina, without any opportunity to get out into clean water, and on february 13 , 1934, 144... miles from cape uelen cheluskin was crushed by ice and sank to the bottom in 2 hours, we must pay tribute to the organizational skills of ott yulvich smit, all 104 people, among whom were 10 women and two children, two girls, went to the ice, by the way, almost all

food and fuel were also evacuated building materials. schmidt later wrote about the evacuation from chelyuskin, that unloading. was carried out in an extremely disciplined manner, there was not a single manifestation of panic, not a single violation of order, as yul schmit wrote, as it is easy to understand, it was necessary to somehow settle down, because there could be no talk of instant rescue, and everyone understood this perfectly well, nevertheless, thanks to the lumber saved from the ship, a wooden barracks were built in the camp, then a tent was built even...

for the rescue expedition itself, but specifically at north, ushakov was appointed, two pilots, levanevsky and slepnev, were sent to the united states. for the purchase of two aircraft in the modification of polar designs, this means they had to be on skis, the rest had to be under their own power somehow get there by... airplanes, uh, we had airplanes, that means ant-4, one was standing on the ground, the second was supposed to come there, and the r2 airplanes were chosen for rescue, i

’ll tell you a little later about the characteristics of these boards, it’s very it’s important, well, so, it means that levanevsky and slepnev bought two aircraft in america, all this, by the way, is not done in one day, and what should have been done in 2 weeks began only after three. in short, i repeat, livanevsky and slepnev bought two sides in america using roundabout routes, it was necessary to get to chukotka, then fly over, in general, it was incredibly difficult work, which will be a separate story someday, because this is not a conversation about one hour, the rest of the pilots, some by rail, some on their own, got there by plane too. .. 5,500 km from the nearest base on these fragile machines, also a separate conversation, already a heroic act, which means,

according to first estimates, since at first there was no talk about an air rescue expedition, three ships were sent: krasin, stalingrad and smolensk, of which, in my opinion, one was an icebreaker, the rest were of the icebreaker type, an expedition. received radiograms informing about the organization of rescue, about all the events, in response, schmidt sent courageous telegrams, we are sure that we will be saved, as schmidt later wrote that he sent such radiograms from on board. krenkel, a native, his call sign ram, became known throughout the country, behind these call signs p, the latin letters a, em or me, now i don’t remember exactly, the whole world knew it, these call signs knew the whole world was received by amateurs and professionals, everyone knew these call signs and

everyone, every minute, listened to the broadcast. it should be noted that in the chukchi sea, at this time of year, well, how can i tell you, it is not very suitable, let alone for swimming, let alone for flying, the polar winter. conditions are practically inconsistent, -30-40, gusty wind, all the pleasures that can be had, moreover, strong wind, that’s even more or less, but it’s a blizzard, that is, the landing surface is practically invisible, well, an order is an order, and herself the situation was such that it was necessary to do something. so, the first flight , almost a month after the accident, was made by... pilot lipedevsky, a legendary pilot, a pilot from god, how to say, probably the word loved is not suitable, especially whom stalin noted, lepidevsky by that time had made several

rather serious flights, about which the world said, so here is the ant4 airplane, i hold it in my hands, here it is the ant-4 airplane, what can i say about the airplane, ant andrei nikolaevich tupolev, it used to be called tb, heavy bomber, it was designed as a bomber, two pilots. flight mechanic, observer pilot, in today's terms, co -pilot, and there was also a person adapted to drop bombs, he was called a bomb thrower, and there were three more people who helped him in this difficult task, speed 200 kopecks kilometers per hour, as you can see, a cabin, two engines, everything would be fine, a pretty decent machine, but 30° 35 to 40 squally wind, now let's imagine the work of not even the pilot, but the mechanics: the fuel freezes, when it spills

it is necessary to heat, the water freezes, there is no need to even talk about it, the oils freeze, everything else freezes with everyone, with all the joys that such weather can bring, nevertheless lepedevsky takes off suelena and after an hour and a half... after about 20 hours he reaches well to the approximate location of the tragedy, here i would like to invite you to imagine this flight, here they are standing there, now both go down, sit in the cockpit and then lepidevsky writes, that’s what he writes, which means the board speed is 200 km, well, maybe a little below with a headwind, overboard 35-40°, almost no instrument on board works, nothing works, there is no connection.

the attitude indicator does not work. the car freezes, the appliances freeze, in general, anything, but the worst thing is that maybe, as lepidevsky wrote, they take off the glass caps, there were no glasses, which means it’s just like this, fur parkas and eyes out, at the first during the flight, he realizes that his eyes are freezing, his face is freezing, he takes off his glove, begins to rub his face, there is a squall wind, something happens, the engine begins to shake, he understands that he won’t get there or anywhere, so he turns around, decides to come back to the street, he sits down with practically blind eyes, the doctor comes running, grabs his head, you have frostbite on your face, he spends several days in a bind, everything flows , blood, a madhouse, the feeling is creepy, his face is burning, however, the airplane is given a more or less

divine appearance, reads again 29 times 20 hour 30.50 walks there with galleys over the ice, now i ’ll try to explain to you what it is, if you believe me, god put it this way, as fate decreed, i flew in the north, although i flew in a helicopter there for about 40 minutes, from the point of the north pole to the borneo station, even... in good weather, but in more or less good weather, this is an instrument flight what is instrument flight? i’ll explain: the sky is white, the snow is white, there is practically no horizon line, which means that you fix your gaze on the instrument, you go exactly along it to the artificial horizon, well, how can i tell you, somewhere experienced pilots hold this, but still the tension is quite serious, because that your eyes just get tired, you just get tired

the whole apparatus, all the time with... looking at the device, while there is no glazing, 200 km/h blows in your face, lepidevsky walks back and forth 29 times, for some strange reason, by the way, lepidevsky is mentioned, but completely they forgot about the co-pilot, the abortion engineer who was there, and the flight mechanic who was there, the observer pilot who was the co- pilot, suddenly their names for some mysterious reason disappeared, i can’t say why . i don’t know, he goes there 29 times, there’s also some pretty strange information that at that time it was never published, never, but according to today’s time, well , conspiracy theories, they are, they are raging in the minds of so many, someone wrote, i saw this note and even saw a photograph, maybe it’s photoshop, i i don’t know,

it was quite famously done for those times. that there was not one ship, but two ships. i will now explain why i am talking about this. this means that the americans, as soon as they learned about chelyuskin’s disaster, offered their terms. and our government categorically refused. well, today it immediately arose there are a million versions of why this happened, although in fact, the young soviet republic had to prove that we can, really can, no matter what, win. however, one of the... theories says that there was not one steamship, but two, i repeat, i even saw in some publication a photograph of the second steamship, which was called tansy, it seems, where does everything come from, on this ship, following chelyuskin, they transported political prisoners who were supposed to be delivered to the far north for uranium development, complete nonsense the most perfect, since development began only in the fifty-first year, but nevertheless, in this note it was also

written that... a decision was made to drown everyone, and some rebelled and fled across the ice to america. there is no confirmation of this, neither then nor now. on the first channel of the podcast, everyone wants to fly. and i am its presenter, leonid yakuvaevich, today we are talking about the heroic epic to save the cheleskinites. so, lepidevsky flies back and forth 29 times and cannot find it, despite the fact that he was from uelen. connection with the camp schmitt and, therefore, there were more or less known coordinates, and they even asked to burn the barrels so that there would be smoke, but here the weather, chukotka, at high, sub-zero temperatures, there is ice, when the water disperses, the water begins to steam, and the smoke is still blown away by the wind , plus steam, practically no smoke is visible, and 29 times he walks

back and forth, showing amazing, simply incredible courage, clinging to his hands, and then he suddenly unexpectedly writes that he was angry to the extreme and poured out on everything, on the chatter, on the weather , on the ice, for everything. on this, on this, on this courage, on amazing courage, he does find them. on march 5 , lepidevsky finds shmita’s camp. well, you know, he’ll get in here, but how can he get out? as the birth attendant from the shmita station reported, all they could clear was 450 m by 150 m, and for planting ant. the fourth needed 650 m, and plus everything else , the so-called rapaks don’t particularly add joy, the sonorous name rapak, a very sonorous name, except for the fact that in

itself this very name rapak does not have any positive effect, the point is , that when the ice collides with each other and begins to break, these very rocks appear, they are like this... standing columns of 50 by one and a half meters, ice columns, so if you slip further, then if you run into them, the question is not just to land, the question is how to take off from this, and he is on skis, and as you understand, when you sit on the landing gear, that is, even mechanical brakes, even at that time, can be slowed down by ... you won’t slow down, i must, i repeat, there was an iceman, of course, outstanding, he lands at minimum speed, risking falling off, still lands without damaging the side, he lands, well, of course, meeting,

screaming, squealing, throwing hats, hugging, kissing and so on, and he has only one thing in his head, how to take off from here , it’s not even a matter of carrying capacity. it’s not enough, the carrying capacity would be enough, because the plane carried more weight, but where to place them all, there is no device for boarding passengers , simply, uh, together with shmit they decide that they will bring in women, women and children. let's imagine such a picture, since there is no place to sit there, the women are laid out on the ice, they are all in fur parkas, which at first makes leipedevo terrified because they are big, he says: my god, you are all so fat, they say, we are not fat, we are small, we are just dressed like that, fur parkas, all this is so furry, huge, all of this, one by one , lies on the ice, is taken by hands, by feet,

is dragged into the plane and fits there , and so they managed to stack 10 adults and two children, two girls, one who was born so far, the second who was, there is... unverified data that there were not 12 people, but 14, because there were also two boys, i’m talking about these boys i haven’t read anything else anywhere, i’ve read about girls, and i’ll tell you about one, it will be a little later, in short, they are all being loaded, by the way, the women are terribly unhappy that the photographer is filming how they are loaded there, now it means that on in their hands they begin to turn this plane around, all this in excitement in the joy of what... someone flew in, and he takes off, takes off and flies safely to uelen, lands, but when landing his ski breaks,

nevertheless everyone is alive, healthy, everything is wonderful, everything is fine, but that means the truth immediately becomes clear that the ski can be used repair it, it is repaired, and it instantly takes off a second time. the second time it turns out pretty bad, from march 6, though all the pages of the newspapers, then a little later i’ll tell you about the newspaper, about the editor-in-chief and in general about everything, not even about what they wrote, but how they wrote it, this one the very newspaper of march 6 says that lipedevsky is on this very plane, there it is, this very plane, there is the t-4, which took suelen out. women and children, the second flight doesn’t go well, the driveshaft of one of the engines flies, and he lands on an ice floe, uh, some panic arose because

they couldn’t find him for a while, but nevertheless, he and the crew get safely to that place where, where, where they can report that they are alive, and therefore we don’t have ant left, number one, number two fails, then all the work goes on r5 airplanes. now i’ll show you this plane. the r5 aircraft is a reconnaissance aircraft. beplan, two crew members, but during combat work a third was added, but it is certainly not expected that there will be at least any passengers here at all. nevertheless, the r5 airplanes arrive at whalen, but on april 7 it is not the r5 that takes off, slepnev takes off on the american fleister monoplane, which he and levandevsky purchased in america. crashed during landing and dropped out of this

rescue expedition for some time, having gone horse-flying on a fluster - this is approximately, here it is in front of you, this same flayster, also not a passenger car, nevertheless it gets to schmidt’s base, lands, but breaks down during landing, then frenkel gives a radiogram that we need spare parts... parts behind him already on r5 planes molokov, kamanin arrive and take people out, which means they take people out, well , i repeat, ant, they loaded 10 people, and this plane does not assume there are any passengers there at all, in some amazing way, they take them away, they manage to fit four in there man, fifth, the driver martisov, who was shoved, there was also such a box... parachute, that means, lying head first, he was squeezed into this

box, i am absolutely not embarrassed to say this word, into this coffin, and how he himself - later remembered, it means he he was lying stretched out in this box, it was impossible, let alone to turn, to raise his hand there, he just couldn’t even do that, but as you understand, the stripe is not very even, which means it’s all like this, and his head hit everything that ... that was only possible, only when this - this shaking stopped, he realized that they took off. five people, five people in this airplane, it’s almost impossible to imagine how they flew, how they even pushed them there, but nevertheless they took off and flew and the conveyor work began, and molokov flew, kamanin flew, they flew several times , a total of 24 flights were made, you can... say for sure, this means that molokov and komanin made nine flights each, molokov

took 39 people out of there, the commander 34, vodopyan took out in three flights, which means he evacuated 10 people, and saved two people daronin is already on junkers, junkers, they had junkers w34 too. hospital in alaska. on the first channel

of the podcast, everyone wants to fly, and i’m its host, leonid yakubovich, today we’re talking about the heroic pilots who saved the residents of zhablin on these airplanes. and so, on april 13, the last flight was made, it was abandoned, and, as it should be according to tradition , voronin, captain chelyuskin, bobrov, krenkel, the birth attendant, the commandant of the landing site, the landing site by the name of pogos. of people. what can i tell you, the rejoicing of the country was like

the birth of a new, new star, there was no a person who would not scream with delight upon learning what was happening, the heroes were literally carried in their arms, but here is an amazing fact, the girl karina is still alive, she is 90 years old, just for the sake of... god, don’t be surprised that so suddenly the picture changed, a miracle happened, in fact, a complete miracle, i told you about this and that.

this wonderful woman, let’s go with you straight to her, my god, my god, what a beauty, on behalf of all the tv viewers of channel one. great, hello, come on, gorgeous, yes, a wonderful bouquet, my favorite, this is a journey and the saints, a journey, yes, a journey, travel to anywhere, anywhere, the fact is that we filmed a whole program about saving the chelyuskinites, when

it was the anniversary days, it’s february there, there was a lot, everyone also came and did all sorts of filming, i know that the film is being filmed now. this time has passed, i see the second, the second wave, there is no, there is no wave, they just simply told the whole story, showed, began to look for who, who else could remain, at least someone, stay, yes, well, well, do you have some photographs, maybe you still have them, maybe some at least something, well, first of all, here are these photographs that they just gave me, everything is possible, even the place where i am. .. i got a picture of the kara sea from above, and what’s interesting is that i had other coordinates, now they have changed because they were entered incorrectly, because the coordinates that were previously offered, they now fall directly on land, and you know what this is this is an album, it means it’s about jaws,

the author gave it to me, i’m sitting down, this is levanevsky or slepnev, no, levanevsky. and visited leningrad several times, i know him, of course, i know his wife, we visited him in moscow, lepedeysky, she was always the life of the party, very sociable, cheerful, all that stuff. a very nice person, unfortunately, i know syan, i really liked him, although i saw him when he was already over 80, he was famously riding a motorcycle around moscow, molokov, molokov, yes, molokov, yes, that’s one of them krenkel, krenkel, with the krenkel itself, i

i haven’t seen each other, because well, he somehow died quickly, but i know his son, yes... i know him, well, already at an age, of course, here’s maria, i recently met this masha, i’ve had her for these few years vodopyanova, yes, this is the granddaughter, she is engaged, she is doing something like that, she is even promoting, in my opinion , they are going to erect a monument to vodopyanova here in leningrad, salnikov, you know, in 1974 she had a short documentary film about the chelyusk sayuznikovs . thank you very much, we are very happy to see you, i’m just incredibly happy that i got to your home, thank you so much, a million!