arkhangelsk to siberia, yes, it’s a similar boat, it’s a karbas, generally karbos in pomeranian, that’s what a boat means, it’s built. from boards, from

kokor, this is a large root trunk that bends like this, with wood fibers running through them, when you make such an l-shaped element, it turns out that you are not cutting, well, the strongest part of the tree is, in fact, absolutely true, kokora, where are these fibers, they turn, they are generally mixed there like this, this is the strongest part of the wood - in the tree, and we tried it once it is really very difficult to process. well - here is such a simple boat that has survived to our time, that is, as we now know, karbos began to be built at least 500 years ago - at the very beginning of the development of the white sea of ​​the arctic by russian pioneers and from many of the dozens of ships that were created according to sea, karbos is the only sea vessel that has come down to us, so in fact we...

such a phenomenon, a karbos is built in only 2 weeks, the master goes into the forest, cuts down trees there, makes kokurs, splits boards, takes branches spruce, he sews it all together, all these boards, that is, not a single nail, without nails, with one ax, then he expels the resin from the remnants of these roots, covers it all like paint, now the boat is ready, yes here you go, preparation for the kokora, here so they prepared it. cocorum for your karbosa

matera, it’s big, you see, the main thing is to find a smooth root that comes out in one trunk of the tree, well, you probably have to dig like this, maybe 30 trunks to find a smooth, good cocora, it’s not that difficult, here is a dutch castle shown, here is one big hulk, there will be a bow and a stem, and this is the stern, we call it a stern, here they are, uh, they fit together , you get such a u-shaped part, we call a bookmark, this is the keel, the most important thing for a ship, the stem and the stern, this is the most important part, like this it is already docked here, you see, artyom was our chief shipbuilder specialist, because now he selects the tongue here, the tongue is the place where they are stuck. boards so that they

are fastened there, then the bookmark is placed slipway, here it is already standing on the slipway, next to our shipyard in arkhangelsk, ready to start sheathing it, yes, well, so that we don’t make a mistake with the size, with the width, with the shape of the carboss, we made such a 3d model , patterns are inserted, these patterns are temporary.

the longitudinal transverse connections are installed, secured, then they are put on the skin, but in folk boats, on the contrary, it is enough to make only the backing and then we fill it up... one by one and they kind of form the shape, create the shape, we do the skin first, and then we insert the frames inside. artyom, you see, he is steaming the first piles that should be twisted, this is the moment when we have a board in the middle of the body, it practically goes, you see, it lies horizontally, it should be rolled vertically towards the pins, it turns out that each board, here she is folding up. this determines the shape of the body, and this, of course, is the most difficult, you see this thing, a lever that presses, the pliers are clearly visible here, how they work, that is, one board is clicker sewing, the next board clings to the previous one with these pliers and

is stitched, that is, correctly speaking , they do not build, but sew, but here they say not to build a boat, not to rivet a boat. don’t glue the boat, just sew the boat, this is where we prepare uh branches, fir trees in order to make a vitsa from them, vitsa - that’s understandable, here ’s something twisted, yes, if you take, uh, a spruce branch, try a branch sew it just like that, it will break, but if we take it and twist it, it seems to split into fibers, it really turns out to be a rope, wooden rope has another name, because it is called because it is twisted, here, here they are, blanks, twists, in this form they can be stored for centuries, you can say, yes, they have dried, here they are already twisted, twisted like this, and to use them in shipbuilding, you only need to boil them for an hour in a bucket, then they become soft again

and we sew with them, that is, not a single nail, there is not a single nail here, but the temporary screws are visible, here, but in the end we are all this. .. we choose, we are left with nailless connection, as it has always been, and in fact, they abandoned this method, well, already in the 20th century, even in the 20th century they also sewed boats, well, at some point it became unprofitable, so they began to rivet them with copper rivets , steel nails, iron, forged, well, it so happened that we managed to build half of the boat in arkhangelsk, and we were already completing the main part of this boat. karbos in moscow, this is what we brought to the courtyard of the moscow museum, laying the slipway and here we continued, here is the sewing process, you see, twisted, twisted a branch, a piece of chickweed is threaded into a drilled

hole, between the two holes, where the stitch will go, a groove has already been hollowed out so that it fits flush there, so that it does not rub, and so constantly twisting, twisting, make the next stitch, with each exit the entrance is fixed with such a chop, such a peg, so that it doesn’t seem to give back, so every time they pull it, pull it, insert a peg on the other side, stitch it, pull it on that side again , insert the peg, it’s really so beautiful work and it smells of some kind of antiquity , some kind of originality, until we held this master class in moscow... where probably 300 people or more took part, i think that people who still know how to sew vitsa, we have fewer than astronauts, but now there are more, obviously, after the skin is ready, all the frames are installed, uh, the frames come to the fore, and from these

frames are inserted, the frames are assembled , they are inserted, this is the frame, this is a german frame, this is a rib, well, that’s what holds, uh-huh, uh-huh, what it holds.

karbas did not take water, well, the word matera, yes matera, our name for our karbas means seasoned, continental, indigenous shore. where they returned, to which the sailors returned, they were always looking for their shore, here it is, this idiot or some ship in the fog, and since you have some kind of shore here, you think it’s yours, not yours, you come closer, then such an island, let’s say you’re looking for your own, your own port, this is it - you find your seasoned shore, you’re also good at sending her into the forest, you’re already crazy...

“nazar and i love each other, he will kill you, he won’t kill you, he found someone else for himself, nazar is sick, stop it, because of him you have already come close to death twice, that means i love you to death, war has been declared, yes, i heard he’s writing from home, no, they’re not writing, the devil knows what’s the matter, two shores, the premiere of a serial film, tomorrow after the program time,

schrödinger’s podcast is with you, and we’re talking about an expedition from arkhangelsk to siberia on a wooden carbass. , reconstructed using technologies that are many, many hundreds of years old, the leader is with us this expedition, captain, head of the shipyard of the pomeranian shipbuilding partnership evgeniya, this is the design. made according to recipes 300-500 years old, got on the water and went along the river as it was, at all it did not fall apart, did not drown, did not capsize, for me it was a discovery that it went very easily, and there was little wind and no one had rowed yet and didn’t know how to do it at that moment, and it was like that , without any tension, she went, well, which actually emphasizes... its very shape, it’s

so ideal for its class of naval ships, it was already september, we went down on september 19, so with fair winds we went down, fascinated by its progress, how persistent it was, well, really this is the time... in fact, a floating house, where you can eat, sleep, yes, yes , and how much could fit

into the carbos as much as possible so that it would go normally, i generally counted on seven people, we have six oars, respectively, six oarsmen, one helmsman, we had up to 13, 14 people, a film crew was traveling with us, which filmed all this, and it is very big, indeed, it is also a house, here it is not yet fully equipped, we don’t have here... a tent, which we will have this summer, well, it’s healthy, well, without a roof, that is, everything, as they say violently, the roof blows in sometimes, well, i must say, this is work, it’s a job of rowing, not for half an hour, but a whole day, it’s the kind of work that is exhausting, well, the oars are so serious, there are about 4 s, in my opinion, yes, yes, they had to be made big, because the abort is large, and in order for this lever to work, to

touch the water, i had to make them big, but that’s okay, i liked them, they’re kind of so simple, but how many times a day was it possible to walk the maximum along the dvina, about 30-40 km, this is with the flow, of course we walked quite lightly, and it scares me what will happen to us this year, we will have to go it’s already 50 kilometers by sea, and we’ll have to keep up, we have a strict schedule, how it will be this year, i honestly don’t know yet, this is such a big intrigue. most of all, it seems to me, for me, uh, tourists also go on such carbas, and now they go to margazeya, but in such a way as to pass exclusively - on oars and under sail, this hasn’t happened for a long time, probably it hasn’t happened at all, let’s see how we cope, that is, 3.00 km, strictly oars and sail, without any motors, without

motors, with regular stops in order to to - tell, meet with a local. population, talk about the history of the discovery of siberia, the pioneers, why is this necessary in general, collect new data, but it’s all slowed down, imagine, well, you’re sitting on the shore, you have no wind or it’s a headwind, if you have 3 months or it’s 80 days, come on you can calmly sit there for a week, walk , look at something, relax, a good breeze blew in you, you sat down with a tailwind, as we say, a capable sailor, you went there for 5 days, 7 days, you did 1.00 km , then - then the weather changed again, again you sit, wait, but here you just got up to speed, since you have some kind of village, you have some kind of settlement where you need to speak, you have uh rectors, lecturers going with you they're coming, they're performing,

you missed this weather, this is this, uh, this this will probably be a big obstacle, but can the carp go against the wind? i understand, as your experiments have shown, well , in general, it’s surprising that sailing ships can go against felt, not only karbos, karbos has a long enough fin, so it doesn’t blow to the side, in general, man has had three in humanity in sailing big revolutions, the first thing is that he basically learned to ride with the wind, he guessed there to open some kind of conventional umbrella for a fee, he was carried downwind, then he had a revolution when he... learned to maneuver against the wind with oblique rigs, the third revolution is now taking place before our eyes for the last 100 years, now it is already in full swing due to the fact that new material has appeared, light ships are starting to progress, a sailing ship goes faster than the wind, two to three times, a racing one , the vectors add up somehow, which turns out

faster, with an increase in speed an additional one arises.

the gas ran out, we made such a box, put it on the bottom, covered it with sand and began to burn it with a fire, a completely different matter, we must say, that is, in this small boat it was possible to accommodate, i see a film crew here, someone is resting, someone is burning a fire and preparing soup, but for the river it is big, for the sea, i think it will be small in this year, this is the story of how we were wrong. when we were building in moscow, we had a moment when we were arguing whether we needed to firmly fasten the frames to the bottom to the embankments and decided that, well , we probably need to attach everything more firmly to each embankment, we had one dowel made of wood, and we didn’t took into account what m when

the casing swelled, it began to increase in length, in length, i mean in width, right? this entire circumference, the side began to bulge , rigidly attached to the frame, it began to rip out these legs, at some point we started leaking carbon, we began to slowly sink, at first we pumped it out little by little, we had a pump, then i saw that, in fact, the pump works all the time, no matter how long we walk, the pump works. we came to one of the morning events like this in the morning to go further, at everything is floating around here, it became clear that this is a critical, critical situation, we had to like...

it all depends on the hull that we sewed, really without nails, on our oars, on the fact that we are only going to oars and under sails, but then there are clothes,

a telephone, this is already modern, i think that there is no point in playing this here, there is no point in dressing up in some kind of rags, sharpening stone axes, we are researching precisely the technique of passing and the exhibition that will be in moscow will be called that discovery technology. not even about geography, that’s exactly how it all happened, but a samovar, well, like a samovar, a samovar, yes, this is us from our first shipbuilding project, when we built the first karmas in the seventeenth year, well, now you’re even sitting , now you touched this warm thing, it’s already easier for you, because it’s cold, cold, how they waited and worried about all this is incomprehensible. we continue the conversation about why in the modern world to build wooden historical ships. and our guest, evgeniy

shkoruba, captain, leader of the expedition from arkhangelsk to mangazeya. in general, shipbuilding, when it appeared, and it has already been there for many thousands of years, it arose, is connected with wood, wood is the main material, and accordingly, this material depends on wood, it depends on it. the design, its form, there is no escape from this, just in the last 100 years, let’s say, metal began to appear there, and how can one not learn a good architect if he doesn’t study greek orders, let’s say, and also if the designer of the future doesn’t know how there is a wooden building from which everything grew, he is unlikely to be truly literate, in addition, this is also a school with... working with wood is such a large training program, as for mangazeya, then, in principle, all of siberia, all of eurasia our eastern one, it passed precisely thanks to

the boats, because the pioneers knew how to build boats, they knew how to build dexterously in the sea, they walked along a large river, for example, along the pechora they go up, uh, along some tributary, they run into the fact that the river has become too small, and they need to get there to the urals, they... leave this ship, build a small ship, uh, a small boat, uh, they reach the urals, drag it, go down along the next tributary, into the ob, build again a huge large ship, some kind of boat or koch and so on, so they masterfully knew how to build these ships, and of course, these were wooden ships, a huge piece of history is connected with wooden shipbuilding, which we still know very little about... somehow we think we mean this russian one the era of great geographical discoveries in the 16-17 centuries, when in just 60 years in one human life, we covered

this huge distance to the pacific ocean, and what spaces we mastered, thanks to boats, and mostly peacefully, because there was actually a war there, well, you can look at it differently, of course we also fought , but they won, again thanks to the fact that we had a fleet and... because they didn’t have local tribes there, they didn’t know how to build such large ships, our cossacks on these wooden planks, like they had fortresses, like warships equipped firearms, they were elusive, well , the third, it’s probably beautiful, considering that a wooden ship, unlike other materials, you can see how every detail works, it’s like again in greek architecture, so you have the columns... you have, uh, a beam, you see how the structure works, from this you already get some visual pleasure, the same with a wooden ship, you see this keel,

here... which is a powerful longitudinal beam, which sets the entire scale, entire, entire length of this vessel, you see how the frames or ribs are attached to it, the girths that define this entire volume, then there is the far-stem breakwater, which you feel how it works when it cuts this water, if only recently there about 50 years ago wood in shipbuilding was like the cheapest material, we are affordable, but now it is already an ecological material, it is a classic, it is a pleasure, getting pleasure from going on a wooden ship, building it with your own hands and sailing on it, but of course, this whole process goes there transition, this is it, this is it’s also all physics, and one could find these links, how to find bunches from a perpendicular river, our

main ones are big... siberian rivers, they seem to run perpendicularly, uh, they flow from south to north, how to go along them to the east, we found these climbs, how you could roll over a cat, and a portage, a portage, how you would roll it right here on logs, like the yamal portage you would have to do, there’s a long distance there, no, not huge, about a kilometer there, less than a kilometer, but 700 m, but there it’s necessary... it will be 300 km to drag the carbs against the flow of the river, here i am, i’m just in a stupor for 300 km against the flow, it’s not possible to row it out, this means either there must be a very good clear tailwind, or we ’ll go to pottering, like the barge haulers on the volga , we will live, and if everything is overgrown there, listen, in this big expedition, what is the degree of unpredictability, and well, in general, the sea is always

unpredictability, this, you know, is in the international rules, there is a clear definition of the category, vessel, it is called a ship underway, it is a ship that is not stationary shallow, not anchored and not moored to the shore, so as soon as you have given all this, all this rigid connection with the earth, then, even if you don’t have sails and there’s nothing going on , you’re already on the move, the captain is already responsible for everything that happens, you...

both here and there it’s a flight, and here and there it ’s most difficult to maneuver during takeoff and landing, because the plane that he needs to land, he has to slow down, it becomes poorly controlled, the same the same thing happens to a boat when it slows down, some side wind blew, this ship was carried away, no one knows where, here it cannot maneuver at high speeds, at high speeds, because it will get stuck somewhere, of course there are a lot of unpredictable things about... yes, what is now modern , technology, mainly space, gives the judges, we see where we are on the map, which i could never imagine, no navigator, so that he knows 100% where he is, it was just probably bad taste, so to say that i know that i am definitely here, you can find out the weather and choose good weather, and of course communication, but for us this is all compensated by the fact that we

are walking, we are, in general, amateurs. but there is no experience, somewhere we will be next to them, what must happen for you to say, the expedition was successful, but i think that even if we arrive on time, it will be a great success, even better if we are on time we will be able to meet this schedule on time, from historical references we know that it took 2 months to travel from arkhangelsk to mangasia, and some even faster, i can’t even imagine how this is possible, it will be great if we won't turn on the engine unless we ask

to be towed. i really hope so, that we will be able to withstand this, and in fact, from the point of view of research, this will be very good. it will be very good if we make a film, if we make a good film about this, which will tell how it all happened, specifically, how they got tired there, and rowed, how they dragged in reality, what they faced, that’s of course it will be the best, probably, because the task of the project is not just to go for yourself, this is not tourism, well, not even for the purpose of giving lectures, not some kind of personal research, but the task in principle to tell. uh , to show the citizens of our huge country how interesting it was, how exciting a story it was, to dive a little into the topic of our fellow citizens, because we know very little about that, and we don’t have any ideas, well, somehow they they walked, well , somehow they got there, but no one stopped them, it seemed like yes,

it really was something big, a very movement, you need to know this, then you can be proud of it, then maybe this think about it, make films and so on, this is our super task... to make a good film, where everything will be, like where, how we go, how we set sails, how we storm, how we wait for the weather or vice versa, we go, we take risks , if we can show all this, it will be luck, and what should the captain and crews wish for before such an expedition, is there some kind of ritual, 7 feet under the keel, fair 7 feet under the keel, fair wind, and weather, weather, yes, everything depends on the weather, then i wished... this unique expedition from arkhangelsk mangazeya has a tailwind of 7 feet under the keel, good weather and, in general, all sorts of luck, because it obviously will not interfere in such a difficult matter. thank you, we had

a podcast with schrödinger’s cat, and we talked about an expedition on a wooden carbass from arkhangelsk to siberia, with us is our captain, the captain of this expedition, the leader, evgeniy. koruba you can find all episodes of the podcast schlödinger's cat on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru.

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tonight, yes great, he later sang with annilennex, if i’m not mistaken, yes nastya, what melody do you have, the very first song is marai carry can leave, i was about five years old, in front of the mirror, of course, with a comb and a hairdryer, i imagined for the first time that i was standing on stage, nastya, when you blind auditions made them turn around, what happened? it was simply the best. this is definitely a song that changed my life, well, radically. and to this day, how many years have passed, because i was in the very first season of the show , the voice, they say that the russian tino turner, everyone remembers exactly this appearance with this song. yes, seryozha, yes, it’s a difficult question, i just remember the song that perhaps led me to victory on the big stage, this.

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