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i roughly understand how long recovery can take, and how to behave - in case of injuries, what can be done, what is contraindicated, well, so far in this regard, i have not yet graduated from the university, have you already had an internship at the university? and practice, of course, is completed after each course, well, i was in intensive care , i put in ivs, restored peripheral catheters, well, that’s it, at the moment i like surgery and diagnostics.
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on saturday on the first, this is a free program podcast, our guest is two-time russian champion, evgeniy semenenko. and how does your mother feel about you combining such two complex professions, yes, that is, a doctor, an athlete, because she understands like no one else. how hard is it, how much does it overload the body? honestly, i can’t imagine my life right now if i’m not running from uni to jubilee, from jubilee to uni, and so on, but it’s hard for me to imagine, because i’m kind of already in this dynamic, and it seems to me that if i leave this comfort zone for yourself, then your sports results may worsen, i also take this option into account, so since the process is underway. it goes smoothly, then i
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won’t change anything. i read in one of your interviews that you have almost an hour and a half the road takes up training between studies, is that so? yes, that’s right, in terms of discipline, i even take into account here the fact that while i’m driving home from the university or from the ice complex , i always try not to waste time and go through the notes for the next topic or... prepare for the test , but you don’t do stretching when you have a hitch in the subway, there’s no cool down, i still have a hitch on my anniversary, it would be interesting, i’ll catch side-eyes, and your classmates, professors at your university, they know what you do in your spare time, well, some people know, some don’t, not like the same big ones, of course they know, i’m glad that in my group, color, there’s such a positive atmosphere, we always help each other, support each other, tickets about... here’s your show
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at competitions, it happens, but they go, well, i saw that they go, i saw a banner at one of your competitions, you had your first met for semenenko or something, yes, of course, but it happened that zhen, please make a ticket at the show, and i’ll let you change your ticket during the exam, i didn’t have this, it’s a pity , of course, i remember the first year, the second, the beginning of the third, how hard it was, but at the same time, how many positive moments did i have, how many times did i come out happy after...
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i won’t risk it, but the sensations are comparable to a perfectly skated free program? well , listen, yes, i thought about this moment, i believe that both the sensations are similar. naturally, in financial terms , sports activities predominate, but what will happen when i finish skating is the second question, in the future, how would i still plan to be a doctor, of course, and it doesn’t bother you that the average doctor in russia gets
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as much as one of your appearances at an ice show per month, or even less, well, i say, it’s all temporary, everyone sooner or later ends their sports career and can’t... i can’t find myself in the future, and i as if i was already thinking, after finishing the eleventh grade, what i would do then, after finishing my sports career as a coach, i don’t see myself, i was thinking, i understood the subjects that i like, more precisely biology and chemistry, what, where should i go with such a set, mom, who is the doctor? well, i somehow decided, i didn’t know how events would develop, but as time shows, the choice was right. i’m very glad that i did exactly that then, that is, you are sincerely interested, of course, if it weren’t interesting, i honestly wouldn’t torture myself, i don’t see the point at all in a person doing something that’s not interesting to him , well, as if he’s doing it under pressure, well , and so all my life then, naturally, i do
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the thing that brings me pleasure. alexey nikolaevich mishin, also sitting opposite me in this studio, said that training camp, it seems to me that you... helped him in coaching work and he said that you, you have very good coaching talent, that you could become a good coach, yes, i had little experience, alexey nikolaevich suggested training with certain athletes, worked out and there were positive changes for them, well, i don’t know, now it’s hard to judge, as if now all my attention is given to sports medicine, let’s talk about international competitions, do you follow them, we are now forced to watch them on tv. together, have you watched the european championships, the world championships, do you know the results and in general what is happening there on the international stage? yes, i usually look at the athletes’ printouts, the results of their performances, but i didn’t watch the video or the european championship at all.
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at the world championships, i watched the men’s singles, and the podium, as it were, the guys show, one might say, an exorbitant level. figure skating, well, i think that in russia, too, the level of men’s day skating has definitely increased, in all types, we also have a very high level, and for which disciplines, besides the men's singles, for example, in our country you also watch what interests you, not with everyone, by the way, yes, of course, you even watch the dances, even the dances, well, because i’m friends with the guys, it’s interesting to watch them. home of a career, and how will a certain number of training camps develop in the off-season ? alexey nikolaevich, in my opinion, every year, you go everywhere, well, now more attention is concentrated on studies, because all the important competitions have already passed, you need to pass the exam, well, then i’ll
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look at the schedule, what training camps are for you will be able to go, some you won’t, and if you don’t go to some training camps, that you continue to study or on vacation, maybe, oh, in terms of vacation. yes, it’s good that i mentioned it, i really want to go on vacation, especially at sea, i haven’t been able to find the time for three years now, because the schedule is tight, but this off-season i will definitely find the time, such a season is intriguing, difficult, third year of studies , well, i have to go and have a rest, finally, well, it seems to me that you already deserve it, you just can’t say it any other way, he deserved it, he deserved it. you need time, dear fans, evgenia semenenko, look for your wife on the beaches of the world, he will definitely not refuse you a cup of coffee, let me tell you a cool story, come on, okay, they rarely offer me something like this, we went to moscow, and so
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on relax one day with the guys, sat in a restaurant, i had a ticket for a night train, a coupe, i look at... well, conditionally the ticket was late, somewhere around 11 pm, i calculated the time, well, how to arrive, i’m generally a fan of coming butt, go out for six minutes, second per second. in the end i arrived, i look at the time, everything is fine, i have time for 20 minutes, i put my suitcase under control, my backpack under control, i get out, but still 15 minutes and i ask the controller which platform to get out on, after all, it’s not leningrad, it’s unusual, she said, well, there’s a board there, go and look, i looked, i looked, and the fifth way, okay, i took my suitcase, went up the stairs, there was a little corridor there, i went down, everything was in place, i looked at the carriage. i gave my passport, went through control, sat down, i looked, well, yes, departures, well, if departure was 23:13,
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the time was about 0.8, but that’s it, i had already changed my clothes, put on my pajamas, looked at something on the phone, answered someone, then i saw that there was not enough charge on the phone, i need to put it on charge, i saw that it was on the second floor , no backpack, i look at the first floor, no backpack, i only have a suitcase, i’m like that... i forgot it at the control, the time is 23:10, i’m in pajamas, 3 minutes before departure, i run to throw on my pants over my pajamas, put them on boots, i fly out of the car, at the same time i shout to the conductor that i forgot my backpack at the control, i ’ll be right back, you can hold me for a minute, i i’m running, i left my suitcase, i left my jacket, i was without a passport, i ran away without a passport, i don’t remember if i had a phone with me, i run out, go up these stairs, i forgot which way to run, i ran first to the wrong place, then to the security guard i ask: where is the entrance? he
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says, go there, i’m running, i look, already going down the stairs, i look, yes, here’s my backpack, i run up just like that, i grab it, i don’t stop, you know, just like that in a loop, hop, and i’m just running with such tachycardia, i'm just jumping over five steps, well, i’m also going down in a few. i look, the train is moving, and you know, i stayed in moscow, i just started moving, i start to run around, i look at the nearest door, like i’m knocking, you know, like peter parker in the first spider-man on the bus, stop, me too, and the conductor shows me, no, then i turn around and look, and my conductor waves her hand at me, the door is not closed, and you have still overtaken the train, that’s it, here’s an open door, here i am, the train is coming, i start to run, it was heading towards you, everything is fine, i start
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to run , and he accelerates, it’s already dangerous, and i i’m quickly going through it in my head, according to physics , it would be wrong to jump diagonally like that, i roughly calculate the moment when the door will be close to me, i turn it around in advance and already jump on the train, well... the conductor of course grabbed her head , but nevertheless, we must pay tribute to the conductor that, in principle, she may have even violated her official duties somewhere and let you in, i didn’t stay in moscow without a passport without a jacket, well, now i’ve made conclusions, now you will check everything in advance and come, well yes, i’ll see if i took the backpack after the control or not, well, i found such a funny story. did you invite me to become a flight attendant? oh,
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well, there is a missed moment, conductor, please respond, for those who have just joined us, let me remind you that our guest is the best figure skater in russia, evgeniy semenenko. before the spartakiad, i also had a busy schedule, as if in my opinion, yes, i was still taking the winter session, because... everything shifted for me because of the russian championship, it usually fell in the middle january, and there it was the end of december, the dates coincided with the most important start of the season and something before spartak, and i took microbiology, also the most important exam, the hardest, well, fortunately i passed, i was in some kind of turmoil, then i usually a chat is created for us and all the necessary information is displayed there, both for... athletes and coaches, and they were told to take certain things there, a jacket, a uniform, well, since
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the sports festival, issued from st. petersburg, and , of course, elegant clothing for the draw, well, naturally, i took a jacket for a six-minute warm-up, and i took equipment from st. petersburg, but i forgot about the outfit, i arrived, i immediately wrote there: to my friend dana gorelkin, if the shirt was loose, the pants were good, the sneakers were also good, well, how- then go to hell. well, not quite right, he said, well, here’s the situation, only there was one with a turtleneck and thought, well, well, who can i turn to, well, of course, to alexey nikolaevich, he asked, here’s alexey nikolaevich, do you have a loose shirt? he said: "yes, don't worry, that's it
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we will formalize." as a result, the morning training took place, then the day was generally busy, we slept for 3 hours. then we had a tour of the metal plant, then there was training, we didn’t have much time, but the day was busy, i liked that from federation there were such comfortable conditions, i went to training, worked out, went to a cool-down, and before the cool-down i asked alexey nikolaevich, and he just wanted to take a walk with egor, egor is our general physical training coach, he asked how... it’s possible there look - clothes, he said: “well, come on, we left at 7:20 for the draw, well, you’ll come in at 67, we’ll see how everything goes calmly. ” i thought, okay, i went for a cool-down, i’m coming back, but alexey nikolaevich has not yet he left, so i think, i ask, alexey nick, well , since you didn’t leave, let’s
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see now and so that i don’t bother you anymore. well , okay, he gives me the key to his room, and says: “i left it for myself.” a red shirt with dark spots, it will be in the closet, there will be a cardigan at the bar counter, like this: oh, thank you, alexey nikolaevich, you very much for your trust, he said, well , you try it on, you’ll tell me, send a photo, tell me how you like it, is it normal or not, yes, of course, thank you, in the end i came to the room, laid out my things there, went and ate, i think, well i’ll go have a look, i had one of my own cards, for alexey nikolaevich, i opened the front door to a certain building, got through everything, inserted the key card into his room 425, it doesn’t open, i think, well, it’s strange, it means i mixed up the card, i take out another one, probably mine doesn’t open either, i think, well, it’s demagnetized or something, that’s it, i’m going out, i go to the reception, please, i say the number is such and such alexey nikolaevich misha, they gave me
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a key card, i go up, open this front door again then... now my own room, i go in, i see, oh, the bar counter, i see, in things are lying there, only i look, it’s not a cardigan, like, well, i think, okay, maybe i was mistaken in something, i open the closet, oh, i see a shirt, but it wasn’t red with black , just black, i still look, well, strange, well like ok, i tried it on, sent it to alexey nikolaevich, he looked, i immediately called and said, oh, alexey, it seems so stylish the shirt you have, he says, yes, it suits you very well, but i don’t remember in my wardrobe, well, okay, like, i’m asking alexey nikolaevich, you said there will be a cardigan at the bar counter, i see there are things here, but not what you said, so what next, what happened next, what happened next, well, in the end i’ll say, well
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, like alexey nikolaevich, here i am in room 425, he’s such a zhenya, what... 425, i’m in 427 i’m living, and i’m standing in this shirt, and why did you take it off, i’m wearing these tremors, i’m already in this state, so i take it off, i’m layered with a terrible tremor, i put it back on the hanger, run to tanskaya for the key card, run out, go to the reception, say, sorry, this is the wrong number. like, oh, like, she also gave out the key card for the wrong number, well, we laughed, well, at least you found out whose number it was, the surname was unfamiliar to me, that is, it was not from figure skating, i don’t know, well, it’s unlikely that there were any judges - then, but you wouldn’t remember my last name, i would never forget, probably, just like that, so you could
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see the unusual outfit i had for the torment at the starkiad, it seems to me that it was necessary for... plane on vacation and maybe let your fans know where they can have coffee with you. well, thank you max for the conversation, i was very glad to chat with you, i hope the audience will like it too. it was. podcast free program, well, all episodes can be viewed on the website 1tv.ru.
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hello everyone, there’s a podcast on channel one, everyone wants to fly, i’m the host leonid yakubovich, 79 years old. 79 years separate us from that great forty-fifth year, 79 years ago we were given a great day, a great holiday, we were given life, let's remember today those who 79 years ago lived, fought and worked... in the sky, about girls, aviators, about those same glorious girls about whom songs are written and about whom a huge
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number of stories, novellas, and poems have been written. in the ranks of the vbs, the workers ' peasant red army, in 1941, three women's air regiments were created at once; nothing like this has ever happened in world practice before, and i think never again. will not be repeated. the idea of ​​​​creating these female aviation units belongs to marina roskova. this one of the members of the same female crew that traveled all the way to the far east. she wrote a letter addressed to stalin. the letter was signed, the order was received in september forty-one in engels on the basis of the local flying club, aviation group 122 was created. command, which was assigned, naturally, to roskova. in october, the group began to work, three regiments were created: 586
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fighter regiment, yak-7 and yak-1 aircraft, 587 bomber petlyakov 2.2 dive bombers, and finally 588 night bomber regiment, it was called nb after... may 1942, the 588th regiment, the history of this regiment, the combat history, began, that is, in the forty -second year in the city of morozovsk, this is, now i’ll tell you, this is the rossov region, ended on may 9, the forty-fifth year in ...
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near stalingrad, 890 days of combat activity, the volga, the north caucasus, kuban, orsha, smolensk, vitebsk, the baltic states and finally, may 9, 1945 in east prussia. the 587th regiment completed its work, this regiment was personally commanded by marina raskova, one caveat must be made here: unlike the women who worked on the dive bombers and who worked on light aircraft, well, light aviation, night bomber formations, fighter pilots, i must say honestly, were not trusted, well, for many different reasons. firstly, overload, secondly, the psychophysics is not the same, i must say that this certainly had an effect, well, for example, i can say that the regiment commander tamara kazarinova, by order
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of the deputy people's commissar of defense, general gromadin, was removed from his post and major gridnev was appointed in her place , the regiment itself ceased to be all-female already in forty-two year, however, several women, aircraft, i assure you, this is not at all easy, ekaterina budanova six, according to various sources, 8 aircraft, and the result of the best pilots,
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an incredible amount was flown, something like 4,420 approximately combat sorties, i must say that the 588th regiment was reorganized into the 46th guards bomber aviation regiment of the taman red banner order of the suvorogo unit. the 588th night light bomber regiment existed until 1943, and then
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was renamed for merit, for military merit. at forty 6th guards night bomber regiment. well, this is where we should stop. the fact is that the regiment, which , as i said, was formed in october 1941, fought on planes that were called two. in general , initially this airplane was called u2, a training airplane, and in my opinion, since 1936 it existed in general in aviation and was only suitable in an exceptional way. for educational purposes, here he is in front of you, he is now in the winter formation, but he is on skis, this is a biplane, the name of the regiment officially 588 night flight bomber regiment, night flight bomber regiment, unofficial title dunkin regiment, because it was commanded by such a bershatskaya, her name was evdak davidna, she
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had a pretty decent flight record. 10 years before the war she flew in flying clubs, she was an instructor, she became the commander of this very regiment, hence the name of the dunkin regiment, i flew on it, i flew on this airplane, i probably already talked about it once, an amazing airplane, just amazing, stayed in the air, in spite of everything, there were a lot of cases when, completely rotten through and through, it still reached the house, there is one peculiarity, here in front of you is this plane from...
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from the point of view of a man, probably a pilot, because the groves that were going along the side to the end, so they stretch along the side, in order for the rudder blade to turn and these planes at the end of the wings to work, well, how can i say, this is such a manly effort , you had to press on the pedal so that the rudder blade turns at the back, the handle held on quite easily, but what is the secret of combat work? now i’ll tell you what the difficulties are and what the secret is, it means the airplane has a 100 horsepower engine, almost inaudible in the air, the combat use of this plane was quite interesting, it means what they did, they approached the target, climbed to a height of 400 m, turned off engine, they were gliding down completely silently, and somewhere at a low altitude they began to drop bombs, which means that it was completely impossible to shoot down this plane, because the gun... air defense, well, any
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gun that is there, say, an aircraft gun, has a fuse worked at heights somewhere 250-300 meters and above, and they operated at extremely low altitudes, 50 m and below, it was impossible to shoot it down, but it was very difficult in any case, and for a very long time the germans panicked from the operation of these aircraft, when the pain did not the germans were less adaptable, then another approach scheme was invented, a risky scheme, very risky, there were two sides, the first board passed directly over the target, causing fire from everything possible, batteries, searchlights, the entire searchlight group worked for this plane, it left, dragging behind himself, this whole horde that hit him with anything, including, by the way, everything that was personal, personal weapons were used, it could be shot down with anything, from a rifle, from machine guns. well
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, on occasion, from a pistol, that is, the first side took over all of itself, the whole nightmare that could only happen in the air went away, the second side at that time approached from behind... calmly dropped bombs, there were no parachutes, the girls refused to to take parachutes with us, instead of parachutes we took with us bomb load, what can i say, the airfield was usually located somewhere 150-12 km from the front line, the jump airfield itself was 25 m away, that is, in the dark, from the airfield, the base airfield, the boards moved to the jump airfield and started working from here, i want. tell you about this work in a little more detail, i probably talked about it once, we were shooting a film about night witches, on these night pilots, i flew on this plane for several days and at night
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too, so i can tell you that despite for all passing circumstances, every single one, i affirm this, i am ready to assert this everywhere, everywhere, everyone who worked on this bomber during the great patriotic war, every single one of them are heroes of the soviet union. just imagine, it’s night, there’s a pilot in the first cabin, a navigator in the second cabin, of all the instruments, that means we have an agd, an attitude indicator, a varometer, an ammeter, an altimeter, that’s it, no gps owls, nothing at all, that’s it. barely glows in the rear cockpit , the navigator is sitting, holding a tablet in his hands and calculating the course, there was no radio, radio was absent at all, which means headsets, the whole task, all control of the rear on the right
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shoulder or on the left shoulder, that is, you need to right or you need to left, the head went down, on the combat course and so on, try it, me too i once talked about this, the speed of the plane is 120. try to open the window while driving in the car and stick your hand out in the summer, now let’s imagine that the same thing in the winter, -25-27 120 km per hour plus the oncoming flow from the propeller, even wrapped in headset plus glasses freezes my face completely, i still have to work 25-30 km from the front line had to take off.
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everyone wants to fly, i’m the presenter, leonid yakubovich, we’re talking about the pilots of the famous 588, later than the 46th guards aviation regiment, which means when they started working, they had 20 airplanes in the regiment, two of these, they finished
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their work, there were already 45 , they worked non-stop all this time and during this entire combat history they carried out about 20, 20, now i don’t remember, 600 or 700,000 combat missions, during this time they dropped 3.0 tons of bombs and 26 ampoules of fuel with flammable liquid. well i'll tell you that it's just phenomenal result, i can list 17 crossings there, what are nine trains, two two railway stations, about 50 warehouses, fuel tanks, a barge, they hit a pile, in general, according to various estimates, as i already said, the plane could ... the bit was naturally from a hand weapon, well , it flew from a low altitude, although only one thing saved it, it was possible to hit either the pilot or the engine, everything else was sewn right through, and it arrived covered in holes, actually, of course, they were called night witches it is
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the name was given to them by the germans, they generally called them differently, the girls generally called themselves seagulls, there is such data, why did i remember this, i was once when we were filming a film about these girls in... a crimean town, the main street of which once was a runway, a nice woman kept there and probably still keeps a small museum dedicated just to them. when they arrived there, when they were based there, they probably saw the sea for the first time, and as legend says, they stood on the shore, saw seagulls, and decided that the seagulls would call them, not far from this, this is how the street goes, here is a museum, here is a road fork, and there was a quiet little cemetery where these same girls who fought were buried, there was one wonderful story, once everyone thought that maybe this
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would be the basis of some good feature film, just heart-tugging, there is the grave of one girl during the kerch operation, when our sailors landed ashore in the fall, they flew there they dropped off ammunition, they dropped off warm clothes, well, everything that was necessary was dropped off, including dropped off. all sorts of notes to support the two fighters who held the defense on the coastline, here is one of them, just on a whim, i don’t know for what reason, she flew there and dropped off notes, without an address, she just wrote that a dear comrade fighter there or something something like that, such sweet notes that a young woman can write to a sailor who is holding the defense below at this time, also by chance , probably these... somehow went to one person, then they began
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to give it to him, he collected, collected these notes, when the operation was over, when the landing was finally successful, he decided to meet this pilot, well, something in his soul, and he came to this town when he i was traveling on a flatbed vehicle to meet her, this difference of one and a half to two to three hours was precisely the difference that divided... them from the moment of meeting, because it was on that day, at that hour that she was shot down, in fact, when he arrived, they took him and took him to this very monument, for the first time he i saw a photograph only on marble, such a poignant story, there were probably a lot of them during the war, but it struck me so much, it was simply incredible, somehow suddenly everything coincided, and this blue sky and seagulls over the sea, and these memories. .. and this road, along which completely simple cars drove and
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some pioneers walked, once there was an airstrip, and this cemetery is quiet, almost overgrown, it’s worth remembering those who did not make it to victory day, you know it's probably scary to watch your friend like that in front of you burning alive in the sky on a plane and you have no way... not to help, not to do anything at all, i repeat, it was quite difficult to shoot down the plane, i must say that by this, well, by this time it’s already difficult for me to say these words, but probably this was so, in any case, many people claim that the habit was starting to work, it’s not that it was difficult to break them, it’s just the euphoria of victory, of having done it every time... it’s a difficult task, dangerous business still led to
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the fact that the sensations were slightly erased danger. the germans, i must say, valued this work quite highly, they were terribly afraid, but suffice it to say that for every plane shot down, two, this small plane, this one, they say, they gave the iron cross, a big reward in the german army overnight , the germans they tried many times to fight... nothing worked, two at a time, but one day, it was a hard day, a very hard day, they started working at night, in general the germans didn’t fly at night, and ours didn’t always fly at night, but the germans we didn’t particularly like the night, so here we go 1 on august 1943 , four planes were lost overnight, the germans, i repeat, dispatched several night fighters, ours did not expect this for... for the girls it was an absolutely complete surprise, and the main thing
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that also influenced that on that night when they took off , the anti-aircraft guns were silent, neither the anti-aircraft guns nor the searchlights were working, nothing was working, there was a feeling that they had either relocated or stopped paying attention to it altogether, and the german night fighters shot down four of our planes, it was a terrible night, this perhaps there was a night like... yes, they lost, they lost the most, there were no more nights like this, then they got used to it, so that’s what the u2 airplane is, a training airplane. polikarpov's design, which was later named, as i said, two. so, here are some technical characteristics of this aircraft, so that you understand, the crew is one person, in combat use there are two people, a pilot and a navigator, the plane is small, 8 m, something like 8.2 m, depending
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on the modification, but the wingspan is you i'm interested, about 11.5 m, height - empty weight of the aircraft is 640 kg, payload - 200-55 kg depending on the modification, maximum take-off weight 890 kg, also depending on the modification, cruising speed from 120 to 150 km/h, also depending on the modification, maximum flight range 400 km, flight altitude... then it’s simple, since there were no oxygen masks, not a single pilot could withstand it, the engine power was 100 horsepower, he took up to 130 liters of fuel on board, depending on the modification, here’s a toy story, this is a light night bomber, in development whom bomb racks were provided under the lower
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wing for transporting bombs weighing 50 and 100 kg, sometimes 110 or 220, in theory in combat... i was delighted with this aircraft, it was easy to control, easily held the air and even with the engine turned off easily glided quite long distances for u2 modification of the 2nd armed forces of the armed forces, it was already a model of 1937, on the left side of the body
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there is a pv1 synchronous machine gun, an aviation version of the maxim, installed, in the rear cockpit there is a da machine gun, a dekterev aircraft type. and under the body were still attached bombers for small aerial bombs, in principle, in the drawings, in any case , a sight was mounted on the right side of the aircraft, an ap-2 aircraft sight and a sighting device, which was also installed there nb5 was called, for aiming in the lower right wing there was a slot so small 70 by 300 mm so that it was possible to see through it where to actually drop the bombs, done. there were approximately 600 copies of these training aircraft before the war, many have one discrepancy, i said what the u2 was armed with, according to some data that exists published in the press, it was argued that machine guns were installed on the 2-2 on these
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aircraft only starting in 1944, and the machine gun was not intended at all for shooting down enemy aircraft, but specifically for working on... ground targets, as happened ? this means that there was a machine gun in the back, there was a machine gun in front, the plane sharply went into a climb at the back, the navigator sitting behind him, fired at ground targets, at searchlights, well , at everything that was shining, by the way, one day this machine gun came in handy in order, well, if not to shoot down, then at least to frighten the german pilot, one day this same plane-2 was over near the german airfield, where the german planes were stationed, at the very moment when the german junkers came in, he stood in a circle, the german worked according to the approach pattern, a small plane stood in a circle in front of him...

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