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and the helicopters, i’m about to throw up, andryusha, but will you stay with me, of course, or maybe you shouldn’t, mm. you really love her, i don’t love anyone, you love, you love, why are you all on her, for sugar or something, well, let you rest, and i’ll go, she left you, and why do i need all this? there used to be
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a well-established person, an fsb employee, now a pittance salary, unclear prospects, moving to iraq, can you imagine, some kind of fool, she told you this, you don’t believe it, no, why?
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i have already accepted this, luka is doing well, she has a family, a husband and a child, they are happy, so that close your body, i’m happy, but you’re happy, i’m calm. and you know, when you left, you made a kiromor, you are silent, and... “who gave you men the right
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to decide who we love, how we live, what kind of cheap we have, who is holding on?
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kira, i just thought that andrey needs to go to work tomorrow, well, since everything is fine with you, everything is fine, what kind of fool are you?
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this is a must-read podcast, yaglaina batnikova, today we will have a very interesting episode, firstly, my guest today is dmitry bak, presenter podcast, let them not talk, let them read, today we are together making up such a literary team to meet with elena, and the poetess, countess de carli, the most famous beauty of her time and also the prototype of elena from the book. and i'm eddie eduard limonov. i am very glad to welcome you here, to welcome you, not only in this studio, in moscow. for me, of course, it was very difficult to get to you, but i got there, made it, and , as they say, and not in vain. do you really like any of limonov’s books? yes, my
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favorite book is diary of a loser. i love i love it very much, it’s me and echko and of course his poems, because i met him as a poet, that’s why i love him. elements, he has a wonderful collection russian, as you know, and especially his early poems, tol bruselovsky introduced me to limonov, and he read his poems to me, and i really liked them, i really liked them, and the conversation just started, i say: listen, maybe you can arrange some kind of meeting for us, because i’m interested in meeting this poet, how come it didn’t work out that tolya brasilovsky, this meeting with limon, the meeting turned out... not so much later, but it happened at the wife of the poet sabgir, at her birthday, limonov was sitting like this, a young man with long wavy hair, in some kind of bright shirt, as far as i remember , she was wearing some kind of national shirt in round
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glasses and looked at me all the time, i was very funny and cheerful, but nevertheless i liked him, because he was very funny. he had trousers made, the trousers were magnificent, i remember when we got married later, and i said so, now the price of trousers is rising, that's it, i'm saying, you said, yes, what are you, what are you, what are you doing, in no case, i said, no, no, no, a married man, you know , that’s it, now you have to support
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your family, that’s it, and there wasn’t a single word, as they say, against it, well, of course, naturally, it’s very interesting what i just found out. new about this famous meeting of yours with limonov, described many times, many times on different pages of his works, and i have just found out what he did to us impression with his poems, that is, in general , his entire poetic period, when he wrote poetry, he is somehow not particularly respected, but it turns out that he conquered you precisely with his poems, that is, these poems were the weapon with which he conquered you, and he mentioned , what exactly is the conquest of you, young, beautiful, talented poetess. for him it was a sign that he had achieved, he broke, well, this is not surprising, because his poems still transform him, and you are talking about the period, he wrote poetry, in my opinion, still more or less always, always, of course, always, he has a beautiful period, the south-kharkov period, where
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he has very early poems, which he later read to me, these poems are beautiful and do not resemble anything, they do not fall into any series, yes, i know that the urticaria series. naturally he fell into that circle in moscow, he completely falls out of this series, although he needed to get into that circle, naturally, but it was his circle, it was the circle of people, yes , with whom we were friends, and i remember when naturally, i also read mine for the first time poems to your first. heinrich and with hollin and you, read these
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poems, let’s see what they say, the poetic trial took place, i was very worried, but nevertheless, everything, as they say, went with a bang, they told me that... then you poet, and we welcome you, it’s amazing, as gumilyov says akhmatovo, anya, you’re a poet, we need to make a book in the tenth year, that’s where all the heroes are, yes, i see genrikh veniaminovich, genrikh, kira. you always look at photographs and different emotions arise, this is what is here, well, this is not, this is new york, yes, but some people here are recognizable, i’ll just explain to you now, this is new york, you all recognize limonov, mikhail shimyakin is standing behind with his girl, how i had an affair, this girl’s name was denis, here is kostya kuzminsky it’s worth it, but it’s rude. next to kostya stands his wife, in general, all these, all these photo sessions, of course, i must say
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thank you to misha, because he always arranged this, he always called the photographer, said: guys, let's get together, let's take a photo, because no one -someone has to do it, someone has to do it, none of us ever wanted to be photographed, this was all, as they say, put together by misha, the shot is amazing, because everyone is looking, as if, you are looking at him, and he is looking into space, look how it was done. it’s great how expressive it is, a photograph that was taken, well, in a second, yes, but this period for limonov is described in the diary of his servant, in the novel about how he worked for a millionaire as a housekeeper, if that’s possible, i think that that’s all, after all, the photograph was taken even before that, and these are already eddie’s periods, i think which is natural, this is eddie’s period, yes, this is even before the servant, during this period he most likely wrote his unsuccessful diary. in your
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relationship with limonov, a big role was played by the fact that you are a poet and that you can speak well in your own language with each other, understanding each other, precisely professionally. i think so, yes, this is what brought us together, of course, and brought us very close, first of all, because you were, well, the most famous beauties, i think there was a huge line of fans there, why exactly.
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i love it very much, it’s called birds, you and i daytime birds, not by choice, by force
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of those who for some reason are afraid of the night, you and i are spring birds, our dangerous excitement causes fear in those who see a ghost in the spring, you and i are curious birds, we know the white language, we would the bird catcher, the village old man, was very proud. look, look, here are the birds, alas, an endangered species, very cool, we were lovers before, does this mean that there will be that hysterical happiness again, for which they give five, do you remember the dacha, pies and grandma, the white stove and the childhood photo , good past, evil past, after all, you have to suddenly come up with something like this, they themselves spent hours whispering with bodies, but time passed and they became friends, like tanya ivan, like gali and
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mitya, our voices sound less and less in this world, but the sighs in the air live in the country, and the summer grandmother cries more and more often, it’s wonderful, there are rhymes, by the way, they are not regular, but they are consonance, beautiful, unexpected, and this is a very good poem. which is called flamingo. a flamingo thing comes to me, blinking on one leg. the flamingo is tenderly cute, with goodwill towards me. i don’t count yours, you’ve been off the clock for a long time, no one takes you seriously, no loneliness, no tears, you’ll die terribly old, in a closet of dried dew, and not with a flamingo, with a fat macaw that knows screaming, tuberculosis, so your
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aunt she was dying, an actress of a fast movie, she was wrapped in a dirty purple coat... a guitar, scraps of lace and newspapers, pieces of bread, mountain salts, in a field of dust a jack howled from a parody role, look, look - the macaw shouted to her, look how old she has become wound, your mouth, one big wound, you hold it on a chain shadow, you’ve been too lazy to comb your hair for a long time, but you have to get out of bed... in this black dress, your husband was killed and your daughter was not born, your ancestor is famous, even though his mother sang, your brother has all his hopes, and your sister has clothes, you’re in your homeland you live with a parrot's leg, eating paint from feathers, you keep thinking, as if again on
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seeds, well, count, you read your poems wonderfully, i read flamingos on paper. and it’s completely different and completely different, very organic and yes, it’s like a conversation, that’s how a conversation is, now this is so funny, it’s called letters, she said l l, he answered, n, n, she said, you, you, he answered, i, i, she argued that she was d, and he, that he was p, crying, asked what he would say to me, he was nothing, then he got up and said d, he was leaving to, she sat on l until he came up to, he asked why she was p, she said that she was waiting for re, and he was waiting for her b, she wants either y, or p, or z, he said that it was necessary,
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everything would be x, that he was le and ready to adopt re, and not not. left with l. amazing, very funny, and most importantly everything is clear, everything is clear what is happening, it reminded me of how levin explains his love for kitty, writes one letter at a time, she reads everything, almost everything is read, you are my best friend’s wife, let’s not get hysterical, at first i was naturally on the girl’s side, but when i started to figure it out, a lot of dubious details came together, since i still have me to live. “well , in general, he’s an amazing person, very modest, i immediately felt that there was something wrong with him, that you were pestering me, i really want to know the truth, yes, we are lovers, you still take a closer look at yourself, who can do this maybe, let's go to paris next week, fortune teller, tomorrow on the first one, what’s taking so long,
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maybe there’s some kind of problem?” in the new season on the first one, a woman is killed and we’re talking about the devil and the heart didn’t break, do you know how it breaks, it’s only the shoulder that gives away and the elbow is pulling, okay, let’s think about it, let’s say you’re a mole, you’re wanted, there are leads on you in all parts of the soviet union, and no matter how good your training is, sooner or later you ’ll still be identified, and that’s fatal.. or you have a second one that is very well thought out . option to escape abroad. well, of course, i would run in, that he will choose the moles, that’s the question. be careful, i'm always careful. major, find the head of the security service, have him urgently report to the control room, and mobilize all
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our employees, everyone you can. the whole version is going to hell. the man was a stutterer and suddenly speaks like cicero. i really hope that you don’t have to blame yourself for not wanting to help us. you are a very good shooter. hello, colonel kostenko. confrontation. premiere on the legendary book by yulian semyonov. why did you decide to write a book about limonov and what new and unexpected things will we see in this book, well, relative to what we already know as a fan. well, yes, well, firstly, of course, you will recognize just a completely different limonov, because the limonov that i have, you will see, which is in this book, you probably didn’t know him, and many people probably don’t
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know him , because these are his letters to me, which i kept, as they say, and carried through my whole life, yes, because i moved a lot, left and yet all these letters remained, oh, what a neat handwriting, this is what you kept and transported, yes from... paris to rome and so on, yes, yes, i, as they say, traveled a lot, because naturally, we started this correspondence was when i was already around the time, and he wrote to me from new york, so, as they say, the letters began somewhere, were dated somewhere, if i’m not lying, in the year seventy-seven, like that from seventy-seven, it was strong later the story that is described in this i edechka, after edechka, yes, yes, of course, the letters are already were. traces, yes, i gave him permission, i allowed him to publish this book, because no one wanted to publish it, he asked your permission, this is important, yes, he asked permission, i just signed literally
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every page of this book for him, because yes , because no one wanted her, he was incredibly nervous, when he invited me, he said, listen, i wrote a book, forgive me, please, and you know, of course, well, well, here, i told him, listen, i i say, don’t worry, i say, come on... yes, a book, that means, i’m going to read now, he says, especially you should read the page where it’s about you, i started reading, i said, oh my god, i say, what did he tell you about you at the end, by the way? essentially, about your relationship, about your attitude, so he said, well , you understand, yes, of course, i understand that all this is exaggerated, but i needed to speak out and this, as they say, was an outburst of my soul , i had to do this. i then started and said: okay, you, i say, i don’t know, if you want, go for a walk somewhere, i now i’m going to read the whole book here now, and i just sat down and started reading the book from beginning to end, i, well, then i also have a manuscript, but
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just in the form of a manuscript, naturally, i read the book, which i really liked, except for some - things, by the way, that did not concern my person, what others, i said, you know, it seems to me that this is where i was.
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the real elena elena in the books is, in general , two quite different characters, they, they are separate, that i had to survive, so i, of course, i made the heroine completely grounded it, one might say, that is, the difference between the conventional prototype and the image in the book is that it grounded it too much, well, he said that yes, that the difference is of course huge, so i understood that, completely, i understood that... i understood it perfectly , so after all, a novel is a novel, and as they say, elena is elena, elena is lelen, and i gave him
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permission to publish this book, i say, you know, i say, the book is wonderful, just wonderful, i say, publish it and give you, as they say, god, here's your ticket to life, because without my permission, of course, he would never have been able to publish the book, but limonov had such a sharp tongue... and this book, it’s me, elena, tell us about this book, and how it was created, this i’m elena, first of all, she, of course, was published by konstantin kuzmensky, who we have here
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recently.
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but about who, who was afraid of whom, after the book came out, i received it from kuzminsky, when i opened it, the book was published in a very interesting way, something like this, you know,
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when i came from rome i went to kuzminsky because i just needed to pick up a few books when i came in he said, well, are you going to beat me, i said no , i won’t beat you, of course, so i say, come on, give me the books, well, in general, of course, it’s disgusting and rudeness for you to consult with me.
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practically all the questions were very, well, uninteresting, but the same, and sometimes i lied like that to amuse myself, now i was just being a hooligan and made up how i met him, how he got hit by a car, how i pulled him out from under the car, what’s his name? this means, well, many couples come up with such stories, in fact, stories of dating that never happened, that never happened, because
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i was already bored and uninteresting. and we somehow called back and at least what would have happened to share life had already passed for one another, for everyone, as they say, and yet we shared something eternal, something , this was this, this was until literally until the end
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until karer's book hasn't come out yet, until karer's book has come out, and here i've actually climbed the wall out of anger and that everything wasn't like karer's and that's it...
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yes, one phone call was enough, just in front of me, he just made this phone call, and the book stopped, it didn’t go to print, right away, yes, he stopped it right away, said: so, that means you ’re changing your name , you change your last name there, you change a lot, a lot of things, when he called me on the phone, and i had absolutely nothing to do, i did an interview with him, that’s right. which is not included, is not included in this book, it is very funny, that is, it is a completely new text, completely new, an interview with limonov, yes, an interview with limonov, amazing, done by elena shchapova, i don’t understand how she didn’t get into the book, but it happens,
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because i sent this interview, but nevertheless, you love your body, and in the summer, when you you don’t have money, you prefer to go by subway or taxi, i don’t have it all the time. “you love making gifts, i don’t have this art yet, i hope to learn, how many years do you think you will live, i think i’ll die this year, what will happen to you after you die, everyone will love me, you found the ideal of a woman, yes, my ex-wife lenochka, what’s in a woman, i was waiting, me too..." lenin or napoleon. i have a complex of my ex-wife lenochka. what art will survive if the world perishes? mine. do you like to sleep ? i love. you love loneliness. i hate it.
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do you think the soviets want to take over the whole world? when stalin died, did you cry or cry: you drink a lot, it’s terrible, you? do you prefer to buy expensive or cheap expensive things when you arrive? west, did this coincide with what you thought about him in russia, if not for my wife, lenochka? are you disappointed living in the west? of course, you suffer from nostalgia? yes, according to my ex- wife lenochka, what is your favorite animal? i love worms, do you? you cry often, i haven’t cried for many years, you think you are a genius, i think half-genius, what kind of food do you like, rough, at least, who influenced the development of your
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personality, my ex-wife lenochka, do you consider yourself more of a poet or prosaic? i consider myself personal, unappreciated dignity, grandiose, what is your sign for... i am a fish, this is such an interview, wonderful and you won’t even understand where there is irony and where it is absolutely serious, the questions are very challenging, the questions are amazing, but...
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yes, they were brave enough, to wear lemon hats, i noted this separately,
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a woman needs a certain courage, he wrote lemons, and i thought how exactly that was, well, you liked life in new york and working as a model, the period that is described in the edichka, well, i liked it , because new york was completely different, strange, but, but true, it was possible walk down the street and just see your friends and acquaintances and greet, i’m not only talking about russians, i’m also talking about some american friends, say hi-hi to them, but... when i’m just attentive husbands and
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attentive, when i’m to him i told you, i said, listen, it’s still not at all interesting to me, but it was written by your husband, well, he wrote something there, that’s right, he says, well, he says, i say, you know, i say, the book is scandalous, so he says, so what am i saying, what's the difference, he says i'm not interested at all, we we met him at the presentation of a film, there was a film called padre podron. so i came to this presentation, it was organized by the italian embassy, ​​and i was very friendly with a certain journalist, who, by the way, was friends with limonov, lucia manisco, he recalled in my book there are memories, and he invited me to the presentation of this film, padr padrón, i was a little bored, and then a man jumped up to me and practically almost asked me to marry him right away. so that we can sit down, you drain it into the elevator, it
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he said that they fell in love with elena, what are you doing, where do you live, i said, yes , it’s not far from here, i wanted to give him my phone number too, of course, well, in new york i gave a lot of phones, of course , left, here he is, he called, but i kept saying that i mean that i’m busy, that i’m busy, that i’m busy, finally he called one fine day, i said that i’m sick, he said, oh, now i'll come, now i'll come. dima immediately understood what the man had done to tell the sick man, when he arrived, there was, of course, complete confusion, because i had one like this in my bedroom, let’s say, cocottes, covered in lilac silk, under a white canopy, a bed, as you know, these american beds, yes, these are four, which means no, no, no, i never let me in, never into this
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apartment, so there were young people sitting on every corner, and they sat mournfully, just like that, somehow with their heads down, and my friend, sashka, who said, well, all you have to do is 15 minutes, your time is up, leave, so i’m kicking everyone out, i’m kicking everyone out, and jean franco was the last to arrive. he said, so here you go, well, here’s another 10 minutes, he said, well, i just arrived, i say, can i sit a little longer, but i’ll sit, i’ll just come in, it seems to me that all men will become meek in the hands of elena, because what...
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greetings, friends, this is a podcast of the chronicle of the end times, and i, evgeny dodaleev, will tell you today about jeans, jeans, not to be confused with jeans, these are materials in the press, which are, as it were, advertising, because... for money was paid for them, but they do not look like advertising, and advertising is not the main thing for publisher, because this money goes either to some employee of the publication, or simply to the journalists who prepared the material, or to the journalists who published the material, i started working in the media, that is, in the press in
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the mid-eighties, you won’t believe it, but then there was no advertising at all on television, in newspapers, but jeans already existed, that is , there was no official advertising, and there was already unofficial advertising, in the newspaper in which i started, it was a youth publication, very popular, moscow, salaries were very small, i i already talked about this, but i will repeat, i received the so-called half-time rate, the rate was 130 rubles, but in the youth... this rate was paid exactly half of 65 rubles. well, 130 was received only by employees of the editorial board. i must note that it was possible to earn much more at the plant in those years. the simple fact is that the 20th century was generally a century
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of baghemism, that is, in any case, in the environment in which i grew up in the capital, it was generally considered that a military profession. in the newspaper, i don’t know how it is now, then these were the functions of the person who signed the newspaper in light, as they say, that is, he put his signature, after which the newspaper went to the printing house.

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