an interesting poet, not of the same talent, of course, as the white balmont or bryusov, but nevertheless, and also such a noteworthy, creative personality, he was the nephew of mikhail kuzmin, another very large important poet of the silver age, it was with him that nina began an affair a novel, with which nina went to italy ; subsequently, ausländer also wrote some work of art about this, and nina wrote some stories, that is, that’s also very good. so they live everything that they live straight into literature, and such the impression that they lived, and khodosevich wrote about this, not just in order to live, but so that what they lived was like how people take selfies today, but here we go, they took selfies in much the same way , all this went into literature, but another thing is that someone managed to combine it, someone managed to not perish, not to disappear, but for nina petrovskaya, unfortunately, all these experiments on her own destiny... which she did, they did not pass

without a trace for her, because gradually she her psyche simply began to wear out, she began to not be able to withstand this frantic tension in which she lived, or rather, i would even say so, she could not give up this tension, she could not simply forget this life, she could not simply meet some normal person, get away from these madmen, and some person just spit on them and live. a woman's destiny, which was probably, well, theoretically possible, but she was not psychologically prepared for this at all, things started happening to her, well, sad, but in general humanly understandable things, she became addicted to alcohol, in 1911 they eventually decide to separate completely, this is where their letters end, and bryusov insists that nina go to europe , she really is leaving for treatment in germany, then she... came to italy,

she never returned to russia and until the end of her days she lived abroad, but the end of her life was very sad, because in europe no one needed her, all these experiences, experiments that she did over herself, did not pass without a trace, she grew old early, her health was spoiled, she could not find a means of subsistence, plus the first world war begins, the revolution begins, in general, she really drags out the most... in her hands she has light in the windows in her life begins in 1923, when a publishing house was opened in berlin for her still ill younger sister, whom she was forced to look after, the only one of its kind the day before, a newspaper was opened the day before, headed by the writer alexei nikolaevich tolstoy, who invited nina petrovskaya to as a literary collaborator, gave her a job, gave her an income, and this cooperation really meant a lot to her, but... by the way, it

meant a lot to alexei nikolaevich tolstoy, because it was nina petrovskaya who suggested the story about pinocchio to tolstoy . it was she who translated this fairy tale to him, from which he would later write his famous golden key or the adventure of pinocchio. thus, at the same time, nina ivanovna should be eternally grateful, but for her, cooperation with the day before had extremely negative consequences, because it happened the day before. a pro-soviet newspaper, it was made with money from the kremlin, everyone in emigration understood this very well, it was cooperation with the newspaper the day before that actually put tolstoy before the elections: either you are with us, or you are with them, but the emigration told him no, then he returns to the soviet union, and here his very interesting soviet fate is already taking shape, but the soviet union did not follow him, perhaps no one invited her there, and no one was waiting for her there, and she was not needed, she sends... returns

to paris, where they look at her very askance, precisely because she has tarnished herself, tarnished her reputation by collaborating with a pro-soviet newspaper, so there is no opportunity to cooperate, to work in the emigrant press, for her anymore do not exist, she actually finds herself in a situation of boycott, in isolation, she writes letters, she asks for help, they give her some crumbs, but... everything is nothing, it’s a terrible nothing, it’s hopelessness, then she dies on in the arms of her beloved younger sister, the only one who connected her with life, and after that life completely loses its meaning for her, in 1928 nina petrovskaya committed suicide in paris, in a poor hotel, and soon after that khadosevich wrote a small...

he wrote those very memories of the necropolis, the end of renata, but in a sense it can be assumed that khatasevich loved him very much, and for her he was a young man, she never took him seriously, but this is the unspoken, unrequited love of khadosevich, this grief about her feminine fate, about a man who loved literature so much, loved the people of literature so much, that he recklessly gave himself up and became such material... for the creative fate of other people, he ended up in general oblivion, this story, which personally touches me very much, here i myself have a novel called the mental wolf, and where i think about this correlation between people who create and people who unwittingly

or voluntarily turn out to be material for creativity, in many ways the fate of nina petrovskaya remains for me some kind of reproach , reproach, i really want to say now 100 years later: to her, gratitude for what she was, for the life she lived, for how she gave herself away, about herself, without thinking or judging her, to bow to her. dear friends, this was the life of the remarkable podcast, and we talked about a truly wonderful woman, nina petrovskaya. and the writer alexey varlamov was with you. hello everyone, on the first channel of the podcast everyone wants to fly, i am its host, leonid yakubovich, i have a special

feeling today, my guest is a legendary person, and i say this without quotation marks, because i know the attitude of so many people here in the lieutenant general’s studio towards this man. aviation, hero of russia, nikolai fetrovich gavrilov, hello, hello, well, i’m glad to see you, let’s not hide it, we’ve known you for almost 30 years, and i have the honor to call you my teacher, because you gave me the sky. what did you finish? i graduated from the syzar higher military aviation school of pilots in 1979. and how is it that a boy from a small chuvash village suddenly ended up in a military aviation school? well, the chuvash people raised it. worthy of their sons, also our representative became cosmonaut number three, this is andrian grigorievich nikolaev, and i was just a little boy, as you said, and this message struck all of us, when they asked the boy, what will you be when you grow up, all the boys answered cosmonauts, and the path to

space then lay through a flight school, usually a military school, so since childhood i dreamed of taking this path along the path. and chose a school closer to the chuvash, sizransk, the higher military aviation school of pilots, and i applied there and got in on the first try. yes, wait, if the path to astronautics, as i understand it, always lay through aviation, well, how should i say, large, fighter, and you are a helicopter pilot? i did not enter the helicopter school, i entered the military school, when i arrived in tsyzron, i saw that instead of fighters. helicopters fly there, i was naturally upset at first, but now i realize that this is god’s command, i was lucky that this is a very beautiful type of aviation and i became helicopter pilot, you have not been the eighth all your life, i conventionally say that i

passed the final exam at the syzarinsk higher military aviation school on the mi-8, began to serve in the armed forces, and from lieutenant to lieutenant general flew on the mi-8, quit. in civil aviation i fly on the mi-8, there are probably no such people, i was lucky with this helicopter, it is a unique aircraft that will certainly be included in the guinness book, and it has been flying since sixty-one and is now the best helicopter on earth, you graduated as a lieutenant naturally, it’s clear, they went to the unit, how did you end up in afghanistan, my unit was located in the south of the country, in the mountains and of course... one of the first aviation units that were then attracted by the border troops of the kgbsr were the southern mountain aviation unit. and our commander was once the commander of this unit, where i ended up as a lieutenant. knowing the level of training and the peculiarities of flying in the mountains,

he certainly made the decision to be the first to send representatives of our unit to afghanistan. and in the seventy-ninth year, back in october, november, even before the entry of the main troops. limited contingent, two of our crews from our regiment have already been sent to afghanistan to prepare for the deployment of troops. of course, in the future there will be the main part. our crews were constantly involved in providing international assistance, this is understandable, you left the school, now you say mountainous terrain, these are difficult, these are difficult conditions, these are not difficult conditions, these are special conditions, there are documents, special cases and special conditions, in the current documents, to unfortunately they were generalized, this is incorrect, a special case is understandable, but a special condition is a high mountainous area, an altitude above 200 m, one can assume that the mountains begin, and before that these were flat conditions, and the part where we

were located flew to heights up to four to 4,500 m with landings, the ceiling, the static ceiling of the mi-8 helicopter is, then it was just 4 km, 4.00 m. then they allowed us to fly from 4,500 to 6 km, this is the afghan experience, our mi-8 helicopter, the court is excellent copes with such conditions and still performs better than anyone in the world namely these flights are in hot and high altitude conditions. until recently, the very fate of the border troops of the kgbsr in the afghan events was not advertised. but you already understood that in october, in november of the seventy-ninth year , partial... forces of the border troops of the kgbsr already obviously knew that

a limited contingent of soviet troops would be brought into afghanistan into afghanistan, they prepared the entry itself, security in the border areas and, of course, , in a strip from the state border 100 km deep into afghanistan, completely lay with the border troops, kgbsr. well, how the lieutenant felt when he found himself in combat conditions interests me now. the psychology of a young man who finds himself in a critical situation, the situation is not critical, i still graduated from a military school, and of course, military operations are the main activity of any officer, so i thought, wow, i graduated from a special educational institution and thought that military affairs will never be useful again, because the power of the soviet union was incredible, there was a warsaw pact about war no one thought, but in 1979, at the numerous requests of the leadership of the afghan government, our country decided to send a limited contingent

of soviet troops to afghanistan. everything is clear, the mood, the shoulder straps, but still a young man who has never shot in his life, he has never been shot at in his life, it turns out, in a combat situation, this is how, how, where did this breakdown happen, when did you understand that you are in a combat situation, that you have to fight and, on occasion, press the goshette. i still remember my first combat mission with the actual use of weapons against ground targets, it was indeed a serious case, i was given the task of striking at the bandits who, in principle, trapped our outpost in the reeds; when approaching the area of ​​​​combat operations, our troops identified themselves with a missile on the radio, they said that the enemy is literally 100 m away from us, and... with unguided missiles, you understand, it is impossible to provide such accuracy plus or minus 100 m.

my task was not only to strike at the enemy, manpower, but also not to hit against my troops, so i remembered this first combat flight very well, but most of all i remembered how not to hit my own people, because if you just shoot far away, there will be no effect, you have to shoot accurately to protect our troops and apply effectively. means of destruction, so i took aim, approached the minimum allowable distance, how much? well, the minimum acceptable distance is 600-700 m, because the mechanism for long-range launching of unguided missiles is triggered at 4450 m, at low level? yes, at an extremely low altitude, and had to open fire, in general, the task was completed and aviation... support was effectively provided, the most vulnerable stage of a combat flight is exiting the attack, at this moment

the enemy will hit you in the side or back no, it depends on the combat complexity of the crew, we fly in pairs, if you are the leader, then the wingman covers the leader’s retreat so that he is not beaten at the exit from the attack, there is no one to cover the wingman himself, so we came up with such a battle formation as a carousel, even a pair and helicopters, you can create such conditions that the enemy cannot raise his head, covering each other, in this way you can effectively leave the battlefield, your second, if i’m not mistaken, was nedviga, yes, yes, yuri demivich nedviga is a very good pilot, my comrade in arms, and thank god that he is alive and well, now he leads a veterans’ organization and is also a hero of the russian federation, have you ever met the chief of the border troops at that time, i have never

met the chief of the border troops, i just saw his photo , why am i talking about this? border troops are a special type of troops, these are the political troops of our state, the most highly professional military personnel from different types and branches of the armed forces are selected there, and i agree with you that the leaders of the border troops, as a rule, were the best specialists, and at that time the border troops

the troops were led by sailors, he was a participant in the great patriotic war, he carried out special missions. had many military awards, and also subsequently performed a number of special tasks abroad, on behalf of our then powerful successfully coped with the state, i have to admit that i didn’t see him as a lieutenant, but 5 years after college i became a squadron commander with the rank of captain and i had the great honor of receiving the order of lenin upon arriving in moscow, the order of lenin was awarded to me by sailors, i can ask a question, why do you need it? gordin lenin. we carried out a serious operation involving a large number of forces. up to 30 helicopters from our aviation participated. it was in the zardevsky gorge in the highlands of afghanistan. on the second day of surgery, when the enemy was squeezed into the mountains, and he was forced to shoot back. direct contact with

the enemy took place because bandits, as a rule, have the habit of leaving at night. disappear without a trace, then we pinned them down and they began to fire back, unfortunately they managed to hit our helicopter, the helicopter was piloted by the chief of staff of the regiment, lieutenant colonel kornev, in the blue sky, as i also remember now, a vertical black column of smoke rises, and i feel that this is not the explosion of a mine or a shell, but this is a serious fire, obviously this helicopter. it so happened that the helicopter was shot down, the helicopter cabin was torn off, it flew into a gorge, the crew was thrown out of the torn off cabin onto the slopes, and he remained alive, but this was in the mountains, surrounded by enemies, all the other

helicopters, as luck would have it, ran out of fuel, and i was doing task... another in a parallel gorge, seeing this situation, i unloaded all my ammunition, which i was transporting to a new site, and flew up to the scene of the tragedy. having examined the situation, i realized that the helicopter was on fire, mines were exploding, fragments were flying, and the crew was running down the gorge, and they were in circle of bandits. of course, i went in from below so as not to get hit by fragments of the exploding helicopter. towards the crew high in the mountains, i managed to sit down on one wheel so that it would be more convenient for the crew to run up, at what altitude, from top to bottom, at an altitude of about 3,500 m. and the really wounded commander was carried by the crew members, and i took all three

crew members and carried out flight to the field base, giving the wounded commander an injection along the way. wait a while so that the painful shock does not play its cruel joke. were you shot at while leaving? by my helicopter didn’t have a single hit. you showed me a small piece of control footage of how you and your partner hit an airfield at night in the mountains. they got a hero for this. yes, the task was set. uh , to strike at terrorists high in the mountains, indeed, the mountains were quite high, and the area was known to us, so we won’t... say in what country it is, it’s outside our state, but nevertheless the task was completed, at night in mountains, no connection, no light, guess by touch. fortunately, already at that

time our aviation specially prepared helicopters, not serial ones, but experienced helicopters that could fly in the mountains without communication, without lighting, using night vision goggles. that is, we flew below the lower echelon at an extremely low altitude using night vision goggles literally 10-15 m from obstacles, that is, this flight can be compared with a flight like during the day, for us this is a flight that allows us to control the underlying surface, which our enemy cannot allowed us to fire accurately at us, so we there was a big advantage, this was the first time in our... in the country that night vision goggles were tested in combat conditions, of course, the mountains make it difficult to fly with night vision goggles, but nevertheless, knowing this area quite

well, we prepared using the map, orientated ourselves, we managed to complete a filigree flight of gorges passes at a great distance to reach the goal, complete the entire task that the leadership set for us, we caused very significant damage. in the mountains the formation of character has already occurred and for me the conduct of hostilities on my the territory of the chechen republic in part

of the russian federation, from the point of view of the situation and tactics, did not have a significant role, but it was morally harder, because we were fighting a civil war within our state, so we would like to quickly end this misunderstanding, but this is not...

probably a person depends on his girlfriend in battle, the life of a military man, of course, and anyone else, on his family, a man always has peace in his soul, and a man is able to use his maximum, his potential for the sake of his homeland, his peace of mind, then a person feels comfortable, and its effectiveness is 100 times the profession when everything is successful in the rear, it is better when a person doubts or needs something, i was lucky from this point of view, and i directed all my knowledge, skills, skills only to perform special assignments, because he was confident in his rear. you have worked many times with... with divisions with group a, with whom we have known each other for many years, you must agree that these are amazing people, that is, they are completely separate people about whom you can write and talk endlessly.

the tasks that you carried out were tasks that differed from simple combat formulations of the issue, these were some kind of special tasks. aviation can perform tasks independently, but in the majority. it is used comprehensively, aviation works in the interests of its side, ground troops, special services, so we were lucky that among our interacting units were the elite of our special forces, these are alpha and vymbel. of course, when discussing and preparing for the upcoming tasks, we trained, discussed, interacted and it was very nice that on the other side in the complex and... it was

nice to take risks, knowing that we would not let each other down at any stage of special tasks, but the daring are lucky, so we were often lucky, success and luck accompanied us, therefore , with each combat mission, our confidence in each other grew, and we certainly carried out more than a dozen complex, unique tasks, certainly received professional pleasure from this, may i ask, well... the most difficult task that comes to your mind to your memories, who is the most a risky case, and how you got out is not known at all. well, we always got out confidently, reliably, without receiving any damage and without losing our friends and comrades. this is achieved through careful study and preparation of the operation. all intelligence, all information,

all training, everything participates in the preparation of the operation in advance of the operation. all the combat coordination, when we carried out comprehensive reconnaissance, used intelligence, intelligence data, and in order to deceive cunning terrorists, because they also use sophisticated methods carried out their operations, terrorist attacks, prepared for their attacks, we played along with them, having most of the information, multi-stage... we destroyed one of the terrorist gangs high in the mountains, after which, as a rule, we carried out the delivery part, so we remember, they were left alone - two wounded, who then report certain losses, but the terrorists quickly appoint field commanders, ideological leaders, and so on, in this case the entire gang was destroyed, ground and

reconnaissance units were used. a difficult task that you had to solve in this position. the most difficult task was a school in beslan in 2004, when terrorists captured innocent children and parents, for three days our service carried out a counter-terrorism operation, where, unfortunately, quite a lot of innocent children suffered, you were there, and we were there, now this terrorist attack is still happening. one

of the most difficult and sacrificial, inexplicable in terms of cruelty, terrorist attacks in my life. well, we spoke many times with one of officers of group a with alexei felatov, who was there with yuri torshin, commander of the group of blessed memory, a difficult situation, but i ’m asking, you were at the head of such a huge department. not only to hold the hand ourselves, but to resolve some issues related to the development of fsb aviation. this is what was missing, what you managed to overcome and what, thank god, and what, thank god, you can be proud of. in such a short period, our aviation managed to significantly advance to a higher level of armament and technical capabilities of our aviation. we, with the help of our domestic design

school. using all our developments, we made night vision goggles, guided missile weapons, made light aircraft, finist-type attack aircraft, as well as light helicopters, equipped ships for border guards of sea borders with light helicopters of the k-226 type. if it’s not a secret, the aviation of the fsb of russia, which began with aviation, is the trash of the troops, this is basically it. still, helicopters or am i not talking about the movements of protected persons and so on services, i am now i’m talking about the maximum use of equipment in the air, aviation has a large fleet of aircraft, and in state aviation we are, after the ministry of defense, one of the largest operators of state aviation in the interests of the state and

make up 80% of the aircraft fleet. listen, teacher, do you have any students besides me? well, i served in aviation with the special services, about 40 years, and uh. literally from the post of meski castle, 4 years after graduating from college i was already an instructor, of course i checked and gave permission to young pilots, during this time a lot, i believe that i raised students, i remember one situation when, in the interests of surveying the climate on the globe , we found in mongolia a mountain that was cup- shaped, accumulated there over many 100 years. precipitation, so an international expedition took a section of the kernov ice from this ice floe, and for this i flew there myself, landings had to be done at an altitude of more than 4

km, i took with me a local pilot who has been flying in the mountains for a long time, when scientists had already gained a ton ice, it was necessary from this site take not only scientists, but also a ton. i asked him, can you pick it up yourself? he said, no, if he was talking, before they trained me to do this, i would have taken it, but now he’s talking to you, so i remember, i took the ice, the scientists, from the left seat i took a young pilot, well, not a young, already experienced pilot, but he looked me in the eyes with great gratitude, learned from me, and at the end he came up and said, if i had met you earlier... had i met you, i could have done it myself, so of course, afghanistan and my young years gave me the opportunity in the right place, at the right age, at the right time to learn how to pilot a helicopter in the mountains, this helped

me throughout my service, both in chechnya there are mountains and in afghanistan there are mountains, so piloting helicopters in the mountains is the most difficult thing, i certainly trained a lot of students and... i managed to land even on the top of elbrus, tell me how much, well, i know it’s just that you carried out a certain flight as a couple in places where you can’t fly at all, we were in antarctica, on the same helicopter for me i was lucky enough to visit both the north pole and the south pole, we were at the north pole, i was with you and i’m proud of it twice, but antarctica is impossible there, the weather changes constantly, the winds change direction. downward flows. antarctica is, of course, the southern hemisphere, and everything that happens in the northern hemisphere is the opposite. it's summer here, winter there. it's winter here, summer there. and of course, i think our northern hemisphere is lucky. we have a warm gulf stream and

even in moscow we feel the influence of the golf stream. a there are no warm currents in the southern hemisphere. therefore, the climate in the southern hemisphere is sharply different from the northern hemisphere. this is a foreign hemisphere for us, of course, it requires a different approach, and since we rarely go there, rarely fly, this is a very difficult area for us. we managed to successfully complete the 53rd high-latitude polar expedition in 2007, when we flew from south america through the drake passage under our own power and reached the south pole. wait, it's some kind. this is a very, very quiet, sweet story, to go through the drake passage, how much, how many miles? the drake passage is clear water, more than 1.0 km, the risk is huge, of course, it is a risk, uh, but we flew as a couple,

we had means of rescue over the water, so we successfully completed the flight there and back, and what was the task, antarctica - according to international treaties, it was... divided or its use, the procedure for using the poles was signed by international acts, and just during this period at the beginning of our millennium, the terms and acts were coming to an end, it was necessary to review the order by the leading polar powers further use of our continents , poles, and the poles are... quite strategically important objects in ensuring the security of a large territory of our state, including, therefore our state delegation had the goal of showing that russia is still

a great polar power, our delegation could visit this point at any time convenient for him, visited the north pole, showed the whole world that russia is still... or one concept that god sees is completely different from everything that what i had in life, as a general idea of ​​something existing, what is a crew for you, i assumed that you would ask about this relationship between people, there are aircraft with one crew member, there are a multi-member crew, this is certainly of a higher level an aircraft where one pilot... is considered to be unable to cope, but on our helicopter there are three, four, or even five

crew members, this is the commander of the ship, the right pilot, the flight technician, the flight engineer, and there is also a flight operator and the side of the shooter, in in combat conditions up to five people, of course, the crew is a special unit, a single unit, which consists of different specialists, different people, different... positions of different levels of training, but they have one task and one victory, and if the crew is defeated, then they all meet the ground together, their last flight ends together, so there is an old expression, for the plane it makes no difference who pilots it, a cadet or a general, therefore the crew is all equal, the fate of each of the crew members depends on each. therefore special brotherhood arises in the crew, so

the ship's commander must be able to unite the crew, prepare them, uh, and the maximum potential of each crew member must be summed up, then the crew receives combat coordination, and such a crew is a real fighting unit, it is very pleasant that the friendship that arises in crew is extended not in flight, on the ground, then it continues throughout life. therefore, you and i, too, as members of the same crew, we understand what we are capable of, both in the air, on the ground, and in life, so the crew is proven in battle will never let himself down in peaceful conditions, and you have had cases when one of the crew members, realizing that he is not one of them, i probably said, not a stranger, but simply not one of his own, left. i had many cases in which psychologically it is necessary to understand each crew member, each one. person in each different situation, here in

afghanistan the crew died, it was staffed by two instructors, both the ship commander’s instructor and the navigator’s instructor, but when performing this task, where the crew died, the navigator was not needed, and he remained on the ground, that's when the crew died, and the navigator accidentally remained alive, this is major slepov, alexey ivanovich, he was my navigator. infuriatedly came up to me and said: i should have died, i accidentally stayed alive, how can i continue to live, how can i look into my eyes, i say, alexey ivanovich, you are not to blame for anything, it just so happened that it was your fault for the death of the crew no, he says: but i’m afraid to fly there, i say, alexey ivanovich, it’s good that you admitted to me that you are afraid to fly there, but we need your experience to train young crews at the base, so that... the young lieutenants you have trained

will continue to carry out the tasks that are there on the battlefield, and he agreed and trained more than one crew who successfully carried out combat missions, there was another case when in chechnya, with active resistance from terrorists, often our helicopters made their way, crew members were injured. one of the pilots came up to me and said: well, i’m afraid to fly when they’re shooting at us, i can’t do anything with myself, i’m paralyzed, i can’t perform my duties, i’m not responsible for my own actions, but i want to fly, but i say, in peaceful conditions, are you not afraid to fly? no, i’m not afraid, only when there is fire from the ground on the crew, on the helicopter, i feel a sense of fear, and i also listened to such a pilot... i created for him the conditions in which he

can perform his duties to the maximum, he still flies, transports serious people, serious companies, and i am very grateful that a feeling of trust arises among the pilots, where a person says what he is capable of and what he cannot do, when the commander clearly knows what he can do what each member of the team is capable of, then he manages to... unite a good flight unit. i specifically left one question for the end of our conversation today. you told me this several times. but no one knows about this at all, so i ask you to answer without any hesitation, your call sign, my name is maestro, i have nothing more to add, i’m glad to see you today, you are going to lek, god forbid you pass it completely, sit on the left cup take your favorite hand, we say goodbye to you exactly, until

next time, in the podcast of the first channel there was a conversation with lieutenant general, and nikolai fetrovich gavrilov, an outstanding pilot, whose call sign is maestro, i'll wither, i'll wither a crooked tank, kalina-raspberry!

kalina is galloping, raspberry, black in the native land, galloping, galloping, devokmanit, viburnum, raspberry, black native land, galloping, galloping, beckoning to the girls, the girl is crying, child, yes, vusha flock, vusha flock, we will kill all the children before the parade.

hello, dear tv viewers, the melody of my life podcast is on the air, i am its host, valery syutkin, our program was opened by the radiant, young, fresh team of polyn folk, and today we will talk about a folk song, but for everyone, the discovery of a folk song occurs individually, in the year of the ninety-fifth anniversary of the birth of lyudmila georgievna zykina , i admit that... probably my first memory, here is a folk song, is the performance of lyudmila zykina, of course, a river flows, remember, my mother said, by the way, this is mark fratkin to the poems of levashanin, but in her repertoire there were true folk songs, she is like the person who first discovered it for me. my guests will be young men and women,

who discovered folk song somehow in their own way. this is what we will talk about today, but know that good taste is a reflection of tradition. and therefore, without knowing the true russian folk song, we have no chance of international success, because only the fusion of something modern, fashionable with our roots gives the result that these pleasant interlocutors of mine achieved. hello guys, i’m very glad to see you, mutually. let's find out more about you. wormwood, folk. where is this collective from and how did you connect? we all come from tula, here. except alexandra, yes, alexander is from the moscow region, i came to them in tula and gathered them there, that’s right, at some point i got tired of living in moscow, the orchestra should be under control, yes, yes, i’m the leader, yes, i came to tula, just for a new life, i had a need for a new life, i wanted to change something, but you’re probably...