so, we move on to the next period in konenok’s life in 1923, he leaves for america and stays there for more than 20 years, and he leaves not alone, but leaves with his young wife, this is his second wife, margarita ivanovna, last name varantsova, in my opinion, yes, she was from sarapola, a wonderful city on the banks of the kama, so this is the most mysterious, in fact, the external plot, sergei timofeevich was invited by the artistic organization committee. states of america, as if the best

work of modern russian art, young soviet and not at all young, works by recognized artists of the art world were presented, works by serebryakova, magnificent works by the kustodievs, that is, everything was better than what was created in the silver age, there were also modern ones.

a sufficient number of orders and did not have time to correct, as he said, the documents in time, later, after lenin’s death , it was difficult to do this, the orders were very interesting, the fact is that already during the exhibition , kanenkov received his first order from dr. levin, who worked at that time at the rockfiller institute, one of the most the main important educational scientific organizations, he soon received an order from the institute of advanced studies in princeton, but this story is connected with albert einstein, he was indeed in immediate demand, that is , the americans really liked him, a year later he already organized a personal exhibition at grant central palace, this is also very prestigious, it was very important to dissuade him from going, they were also in america, they dissuaded him, they said that they did not need art and had nothing to do there, they were in america a little earlier, they dissuaded him, but he nevertheless went there; unlike yesenin, he really liked it there. well, as i

understand it, he also missed his homeland, and margarita ivanovna recalled this very interestingly, just that when - konenkov worked, naturally, commissioned portraits, for money, he had to live on something, otherwise, if he didn’t like a person, he didn’t like making his portrait, he swore, and she was a translator, she, he spoke a lot, but she translated little, they asked her, and why does mr. kanenkov talk a lot, and you translate so little, she said: that these are the peculiarities of russian speech, this is a wonderful memory, wonderful, but let’s go back, yes, let’s go back to this woman to albert einstein, einstein probably took this photograph, most likely, it ’s the two of them, it’s just at his house in princeton, their first visit is sergei timofeevich, margarita ivanov, again according to legend, let’s treat the memory as a legend, they were photographed by albert einstein, and how did einstein even appear on horizon of a russian emigrant, very simply, it was.

there was a principle, when he was working on a sculptor, he asked margarita ivanovna to talk to the models, it was very important for him to read emotions on he himself did not know english, he knew english perfectly, i confirm, we have books in the konyunkovskaya library that he read translated in the original, he read, by the way, i have shakespeare at home, his yeah, which he read in the original, in 1946 there is an entry in the little horse’s notebook. tomorrow, as he writes, i’m making

a program for america in english, this already from moscow, yes, from moscow, that is, he spoke in english, well, there was some kind of program, apparently.

notes, a pen, on pieces of paper, he wrote a lot, enough, trying to tell the meaning, yes, we apparently didn’t have tovanovna, looking into her eyes, certainly beautiful, but probably empty, he asked margarita ivanovna, do you understand, about what am i saying, she answered him, no, he answered, it can’t be, in any case, these wonderful pieces of paper with notes.

and there were, of course, no preliminary events about these events that you mentioned, there is no confirmation, let's just say, okay, yeah, the konenkovs came to america, kanenkov receives a huge number of orders, and the most important thing is that he participates in the famous international exhibition in philadelphia, this is very important. in 1926, the americans decided to create a huge global exhibition that would compete with the famous parisian exhibition, they chose. the russian sculptor representing america, another russian sculptor gleb deruzhinsky, a fellow student of the konyunks of the imperial academy of arts, received a gold medal, that is konenok's glory was unconditional after the start

of the war in 1943, when the danger of the emergence of superweapons arose, naturally. the famous, famous intelligence officer elizaveta zarubina comes to the united states, and for them the victory over fascism was very important, so the help was absolutely selfless, but nevertheless, specially supervised by margarita ivanovnukanka, starting in 1943, everyone fought against fascism,

it was ours allies, so superweapons were the most terrible thing that actually determined the outcome of the war, so margarita’s role was quite important. well, again, turning to the court payment, what was margarita’s role, she asked robert appelheimer, she definitely worked with those physicists of leftist persuasions who could help in the project, that is, she was involved in the personnel policy of the american personnel, i just take for work, this is personnel policy, well , maybe from your point of view, i’m just trying to be so to speak,

she was charming, yes, but it was actually work and service, she had her own office in new york, she had her own personal car, a driver with cars, she came to work, she received wages, the actual activity... konenkov returns to the soviet union, and stalin also sends, as it is written everywhere, it is true, of course, that stalin sends a huge, well, huge, not huge, generally sends.

konenkov’s workshop is in this very gorkovo, and it’s very interesting that there is

a workshop there and not only these two floors, where my mother lived as a child, and there was an even larger area, now where the famous pushkin restaurant stands, that was also the territory of sergei timofeevich konenkov, it was konenkov’s garden, it is very interesting that somehow the local residents of tverskaya turned to their great-grandfather that they had nowhere to walk and nowhere for the children to walk and could he give them this territory, and he gave it to them, there was a children’s room ...

refused, he says how i will work, and i worked there in the workshop, and at the belarusian station in the ilych depot there is a sculpture that he made, created from marble, this is a working depot, they turned to him, railway worker, yes, a monument to the fallen railway workers, a wonderful monument, but they turned to him with a request to put one in their depot , and naturally they collected money, but it wasn’t even enough for marble, and sergei timofeevich for his own money... there was money for an architect, my grandfather kirill sergeevich acted as an architect, i didn’t know about this, it’s amazing, i

know that he also made the tombstone of mikhail mikhailovich prishvin, they communicated, they were friends, this apparently also dates back to those twenties when they met, this meeting is also so significant, yes the bird sirin, we have two models for this monument in the museum, it’s great , can you tell me about this work, yes, this is konenok’s early work from 1910, why was it presented here? once in his memoirs, kanenkov noted: if i had not created bach, and these are portraits of agan sebastian bach, i would not have succeeded as a sculptor, that is, a horsewoman who created some incredible number of works - some highest magnificent level, suddenly so he highly appreciates this incomprehensible sculpture, i can say about my childhood impressions of no, this is a sculpture with sound, it always seemed to me that there is music here , although it is very heavy stuff, yeah, this? this work is called the prophet, was created in italy in 1928,

a very interesting story is connected with it, konyunkov was very concerned about events in his homeland, various rumors reached konyunkov and he decided to find out the truth, and for the truth he went to gorky sorento, he specially comes to italy, to sorento, and spoke from america, this is a very important conversation with gorky, he has been with him for a very long time. returned to america in song. there is such a phrase: let's forgive each other, we are russians, and russians should forgive, apparently, the conversation was difficult. olek jorovich, do you have any family memories, some myths, legends, stories? well, my mother told me, because she grew up, right there in the workshop, in sergei timofeevich’s apartment, and when

my great-grandfather returned, in 1945, grandfather returned from the war, but grandfather , of course, was not in america , would not. lived here, my grandfather lived here, and my great-grandmother, tatyana konyaeva, his first wife, she got married, then she married nikolai sergeevich rukavishnikov, the brother of the sculptor, rukavishnikov, they lived in the estate, they came, they lived in crimea, yes, then , when they returned to moscow in the thirties, their great-grandmother was exiled to kazakhstan, huh, and where did she die? we don’t know, this is also a story that is covered in secrets, because rukavishnikov, he died in the nineteenth year or in the eighteenth, he was shot, in my opinion, yes, well, that’s also unknown, just yourself, you’re like the same age, what do you think, given that after all, the joke is a genre that, in my opinion, reached the peak of its

popularity there, when it already lived in kitchens and so on, well, let’s take it there in the eighties, it’s just already released... it’s kind of comical that, well, yes, the most famous one is there, probably, and a children’s joke, when you take it off, yes, yes, there - now, for example, there was a cheburashka, the neural network asks, yes, for example, no, well, in general, it could be a good start to a joke, but of course now we’re watching, there’s a new series there are cartoons about matroskino, he lives in a space where there is a child’s perception of the world, there the animations are known and trusted

by parents, and of course this is curdled milk and so on, at the same time there are some other characters, for example n, and osik there too, here they are all together, well, they became heroes there, well, well , it’s also unclear why, because it’s not clear how to make jokes on a sailor suit about a cat, it’s absolutely true about a cat, it’s hard to come up with here , by the way, about vinepuh, it’s also not like , of course, cheburashka is famous, but also famous it seems to me that these are some stereotypical elements of our society that can be easily projected onto a chubby bear with an ear, that is, some kind of physiological humor, that is. points, that is, it turns out, whatever one may say, get a higher education, work, you’re still smart, right, roughly speaking, if you, well , it turns out, i can see my vices in a cheburashka, you don’t, you’re perfect, i’m perfect, thank you, this is the first channel, we are on the ideal channel, well, i don’t care, i

know how many jokes, they are all like that tough, about such bloody things, i remember a joke when i’m sitting -

the size of my mother’s breasts, there was even a selection like that, but apparently it was, i’m literally confused, but no, i’m talking about how artists saw this mother differently , then perception, of course, this too, but you see, maybe, because it was difficult to come up with cooler humor than baked into the animation, because for me, for example, well, when you perceive it by ear without watching the cartoon, yes , exactly like the written dialogues, zhenya there. this was the second meeting, that's it, goodbye, take your different sizes and somewhere, and, considering that she then sings somewhere, she is some kind of artist, she is a singer or whoever, you

know, by the way, regarding what vanya says, it seems to me that there is another reason for the situation , well , exactly in this cartoon, in vinepuh there are clear images, this boring, what’s wrong with you piglet, superheroes, superpowers, the osnik is melancholic, sad, everything is clear, piglet is generally understandable. he was the only one who had a gun at home, who is he anyway, he’s a provocateur, he’s a provocateur, and he had a ball, and a gun anyway, who is he, he’s retired some kind of special forces soldier or something, but i don’t understand, not by the way, it’s interesting, yes, but venepukh is just kind, okay, let’s take this then, i just want to understand that the animations there aren’t so abstract, here’s vovochka, well, in my opinion, one of the most popular characters, but who is he, this is some kind of schoolboy, but at that time, for example, the same boy who... there - was friends with khatabych, his name was a very strange name, volka, remember , this is apparently voldemar, yes, not volka volka, volka volgo, his name was volgo voldemar, by the way, it’s true, yes, well, apparently this is voldemar,

that is, well, they could have done it then, because all the children knew him, everyone looked up to khatabych and loved him, everything is obvious, this is a collective image of a hooligan, this is a guy in every yard, volka, he’s well, not a hooligan, i agree with sasha here, yes, well, more or less we’ve got the definition right, and this is a collective image of a hooligan, because all the time... well, in principle, i don’t know what kind of one i agree with you, a hooligan but he’s so pretty, he ’s very, he’s such a child, that’s why he doesn’t teach much he’s seven years old, he’s 10 years old, well, i think he’s probably such a class. fourth fifth, because i recently also thought about this topic, an old children's joke, when it means there is an open english lesson at school and a commission from gorono

is present, well, some teacher is there in the commission there checking to see how the young teacher is, which means an englishwoman is teaching a lesson to children, they just started speaking english, she also prepared for the commission in a very short summer dress, so she writes like this on the board there is some kind of assignment for translation and it means that class vovochka is sitting in the last game and in the back, already behind these last rows, sits this representative with glasses so burnt out at that moment her chalk falls, she bends over the dress is very short , which means she picks it up quickly like that so children, who can translate this phrase vovochka , once again, and he says, vovochka, yes please , he says, wow, what an ass, he says , well, let’s get our things out of class, vovochka collects notebooks, wraps everything in a briefcase. that’s how you say correctly, a collective image of something like that, that vovochka is some

kind of truth-teller, he’s some kind of truth-teller, although in principle he’s simple, but you know that, he’s a hussar, he’s a rzhev lieutenant, only young, that’s it, that’s it i just thought that like this couple of orzhevsky, look, i know a couple of jokes about lieutenant orzhevsky, i wouldn’t want them to grow out of little ones. exactly this person, well, i agree, because trust krushevsky, sasha, well, you still agree, that’s all, that’s what it is, well, let’s say, about it goes, he came up with such a thing, it means that there was such a lieutenant rzhevsky, who, well, he was responsible for, say, vulgarity, obscenity, and why was he appointed, because well, maybe it was a collective image of all the hussars at that time time, yes, that is, or someone there, i just think that, again, according to trends, it’s going to be poor. this is where it comes from, war and peace, the dinner hussar won’t say a word, some bright characters appeared on our domestic television or in the cinema, and this then passed on to the people

and he was given all sorts of superpowers, some vulgar, not vulgar, and so on, he became a people’s favorite and it seems that kryzhevsky’s instructions are one of the examples, well , here is exactly the exact definition, i think, but it’s still unclear why exactly well, you know from all the variety of characters there. events in all of animation in cinema , i mean in the world there, why didn’t they become the heroes of jokes, some i don’t know , some avatars, well, someone else.

why hasn't there really been a new one? some kind of song instead of a wave or so on, because a lot of bloggers have appeared, why is there no such mass, i don’t know the passion for something or someone who could be made the hero of jokes, that’s what the reason, it’s not clear, is that now many people , forgive me, say that the joke genre is not so popular, but still we are trying to preserve it, including here in our laboratory podcast, this is what is needed in order in today's time to become a hero.

that the heroes of jokes are encrypted in this at one time they were like heroes of their time, heroes of our time, who are now, heroes like before, something to laugh at, mother-in-law, stirlitz, but they appeared, arose, and such a layer was created as heroes who were laughed at, now it’s not clear, no such bright characters who just highlight, here ’s a joke, now all the bloggers are just these sketches, it seems to me that they told jokes before, they just couldn’t be visualized, now we came up with a miniature, showed it, here you go. the joke is important, it’s very important to me, so that - let’s say, if it’s readable humor, when you read it, everything is clearly written there, and if someone tells it, then be so kind as to tell them what was funny, you know, there are stupid jokes, when in general there are some heroes of the jokes idiots, that is, where everything is unexpected, when - these guys are walking, it’s summer, it’s hot, that means they’re walking along the road, you know, they’re trying to stop a ride, suddenly from

the bushes a guy like this: driving a kamaz truck just jumps out in front of them and they act out like that stopped and he says let them down the three of them bent over, they say, listen, man, are you crazy or something, come on, get out of here, run, drive and he takes out a barrel like that and to one head i said, let’s get into the kamaz quickly, oh, we understand everything, we understood everything, just jump into the back at all, he’s not running any further, that means they, too , are all like they hit the brakes , play back, stop, say: i don’t have a license, there’s a guard post ahead, you go through the post on foot, and i’ll go around through the corn, we’ll meet there, they’re good, good, and they jumped out cheerful and walking quickly into side, and he ran into the corn with this steering wheel,

you know. they rushed, ran up, there was such a sunshine, so goyish, they came to him, he also threw out a policeman, there was one idiot with a steering wheel, he says, with a steering wheel from a kamaz, they say, yes, yes, yes, he says, we we haven’t been able to catch him for 2 weeks, he drives without a license, he says where he speaks, well , he literally turned 200 meters into the corn there, he speaks quickly, takes the steering wheel from the motorcycle, says, sit down, you two are behind me, and you into the stroller, he says, are you crazy? comrade policeman, he pulls the shutter on the machine, i said, quickly, you get into the stroller, two of you in the back, this one sat in the stroller, like that, and he was like, you know, we’re going into the corn, and these ones in the back are running after this, and this one he’s running, he’s like, what are you doing, i said, you ’re in a stroller, run in a half-squat, and he’s crouched like that, here they fly into the corn, the cobs are all over the forest whipping at them, and this one runs in

a squat, i’m fighting for these... he says, why the hell are we, why the hell did we go to this post, now it would be normal to take the team to the city to get there, and there are also a lot of endings, jokes go to the people, they are used simply in everyday life, everyone understands where it all comes from, it’s already there, it’s a box of vodka and two back, yes, yes, that’s something like that, i like jokes, i often like the ending this anecdote, often we, for any reason, our wife is throwing each other, and 3:00 in the morning, the wife has gone on a spree somewhere, the man is sitting at home, waiting for her, not worrying, at night the door rings, the husband opens the door, the wife is standing there , her dress is all torn, she’s all drunk lipstick smudged gives he says you think i you i'm going home like that, he tells me i don't care, i'm with a guitar, that's already yes, that's already become an excuse, that's in general, that's how it is among the people, everything is just like old, in one phrase you understand the whole evening that was that it came to the point that you can do it now i'll bring it now.

a joke is, as a rule, no matter who the hero is, yes, that is, the story itself should be anecdotal, that is, it doesn’t matter whether it was a cheburashka, or it’s clear that take it off the steering wheel, not from the steering wheel, the cheburashka is a pun. skin in the bedroom, there the wife is so scared i covered myself with a blanket, this one is also in a nightie, they silently walk around the bed and also through i come and back to the door, the man is not my wall at all, it’s the woman in the bed and then the last one, who is carrying the robe, says,

man, i’m sorry, really, there in the corridor you can’t turn around, how stupid the ending is, that’s why you think the moment is very fresh.” eighth year of birth, he has two children, in short, we hung out at her house, hung out, for years, now for 4 years, every weekend, we came to her, we were just friends with her, at our there was a big company, she always had a friend who didn’t say a word for 4 years, who always also, well, it’ll be july, you know,

she’ll be july, and in short, one day she was late for something, she says guys, she says, oh we can get together today in july, her parents seem to have left and we are always at my place, so we can at her place, we say, it will be unpleasant as if there too we say yes of course we went to her house and something is something all there is something - then we were tired of sleeping and it so happened that i had no place left to sleep and i was in the hallway i took the sneakers, well, i was young, i was wearing a sneaker , i lay down somewhere at 50 in the morning, i’m here, this is the real story, she’s somewhere at 8 or 7, she’ll be with me , that’s julia, the hostess, yes, she says, can you hear me, i say, yes, she says, go away, please , i i say where everyone has already gone, my parents. come, leave, please go to masha, you hung out there for 4 years, and i always went to masha by elevator, he says, okay, i’m with the prosode, it was summer without a top, i’m male there, well, yes , yes, machu, machu, yes, yes, yes, i’m going to the crossover, i say, yes, i think, fuck us

we actually went to this yulia, i remember, you were sleeping peacefully by masha’s side, yes, i wish i was lying there calmly by masha’s side right now, i know the rug, yes, yes, here i am with the prosode ringing the doorbell, ringing the bell vanya, a man in shorts opens,

people are nostalgic because many people just remember some individual flashes of things about i had such a tape recorder oh i had such sneakers there oh there was such a fashion there for that, some kind of chewing gum you know these little jeans sweaterboys there are some bangs there, it’s unclear, you know, such sweatpants white socks black shoes here you know, such a bang is like this on the hydropil , it will still come. but then it really appeared, if you remember, there was such a concept as the new russian, these are some people who were suddenly attacked by money, that is, those who had money and who did not know how to deal with it, bought everything strange,

burgundy, that they bought everything, well, tell me, i’ll tell you later too, i don’t really remember the jokes, but i have two, i think, i have a song, not well, which i’ll sing, but i have a couple of jokes, which here i i just know. why is it that they get a knock on the door, they open it, there is a cart of just rich cars, right here a six hundredth mercedes, all these are jeeps, all wide jeeps, all these chains are all standing there, listen, and they say, listen, bro, here so this is the same thing, in short, i’m saying, our bro, think about it, drove off, just took it and drove off, went to his tsatse, so i’m the one who didn’t dress for fun, he dressed somehow, this is some kind of branded jacket something bright, you know, a shirt with flowers, something like a tie

so bright, so what? listen, guys, in short, let’s do it like a boy , here’s 5 tons of bucks for you, yes, make it look civilized, so that there’s a black suit, so that it’s civilized like a tsivelnak, so that, okay, he’s wearing the wrong thing , he ’s right in general, yes, not at all, he drove off in the wrong way at all, he’s all that seryozha drove off in the wrong one, so he’s like, okay, but it’s like these guys left, they’re coming, dudes... not i know what they called styles in the nineties, of course, well, they come like all convertibles, all like that wow, everyone is like that in style, listen, the boys say that, guys, at our photo shoot, our vazik, our, our, vladik conditionally took this one and drove off, think about it at the photo shoot, at the photo shoot, and what they took pictures of, he’s some kind we took a photo of a magazine, he was in a black suit all over, something like that, well, something not ours at all, we love to do something brightly, such a bright suit, he had a shirt like this, the pest here is bright, here it is, here we chipped in here... you got 10,000 dollars, here we chipped in for you, let’s do it

something, okay, the two of them are leaving in the talganats, standing with tea, but today is a day of luck, and here the gods of business have changed everything, i’ve thrown everything over, i still really like that there are such jokes constructed when the circumstances are needed for the story, that is, like they’ve arrived here then they arrived from the cart and everything coincided so that then the fucking thing goes away. leopold, you reminded me, you know how there are such good jokes from the nineties, when some kind of brother is sitting there and his little daughter, well, her mother went somewhere, and he it means he’s telling her a bedtime story, he’s also already so desperate to sleep, his daughter is already falling asleep, and he says, well, then the bun jumped his merino left his grandmother and grandfather, and the daughter’s dad, and... okola apkazh.