slightly surreal elements, because the heroine always has something like this in her head, she sees herself as a star, this is probably lioznova’s most autobiographical film, because she was such a girl, though not from the provinces, she was born in moscow , but she wants to be someone, she wants to become someone, but she can’t, yes, that’s the drama, plus mom, mom, to whom the main character returns at the end, who is sick, absolutely this is lioznov’s story and her mother, and of course.

who played tatyana doronina's husband in tritopelno plyuchikha, he played in the seventeenth spring, an uncharacteristic role for him, but the role of an american, and he said that at some point they did not learn the text with a partner, and there were 17 pages, they thought that somehow it everything will be voiced, she forced them to learn it right there and spoke this text with them, and it really turned out very cool, because they understood it, they didn’t memorize it at home, yes, they somehow understood it, comprehended it, so these are some she came up with things in advance, for her there were very clear... dreams - those elements that she wants, so that they would be in the film, so she really wanted there to be a song about a telephone in the carnival, that is, it was a direct order, there would be a telephone. on the other hand, this is where this little scene begins, the heroine sweeps the asphalt and at the same time trains her diction, with these same pebbles and nuts. she came up with this during the filming process. when he arrived at the site he said, let’s try this. and it turns out very interesting, so this is a combination of music, humor, melodrama. something

unexpected, a great master of comedy, eldar rezanov said that i envy lioznova, who was able to make a carnival film, because when in your film people laugh for 15 minutes so much that they don’t even hear the further text there, but this is necessary, you need to be able to do this. this is witnessstein's podcast and its host, film historians natalya ryabchikova and stanislav didinsky. we continue our conversation about director tatyana leoznova. do you remember, about 10-15 years ago there was a parody of the film 17 moments of spring after it was colorized, by the way, with her approval and her participation, and even there it was all kind of comedic the principle was based on the fact that the colorizers painted in a very specific way, painting one of sterlitz’s boots pink, the other orange, the tri-tunic green, in general they did not match the tone and thereby completely demolished it.

close to important, i even thought about filming the memoirs of the famous opera singer galina vishnevskaya, i met her, but something, something didn’t work out, and her last film was actually a three-part television series, it seems, with a very intriguing complex title, the end of the world with subsequent symposium, yes, but critics say about it that it was already some kind of belated movie, a film adaptation of an american play, where the main character is, in fact, also a playwright, all our

wonderful soviet actors play americans, such a little rounding off of a career when, which she started from the memory of the heart, where there were real englishmen, real germans, this is such a serious movie that would look good in the era of stagnation, when it came out, eighty-sixth, eighty-seventh it was filmed, it was already well, not at all for the era, something completely archaic, although she has a continuation of this technique of her voice-over text, and there is a conversation with the audience, that is, the main character speaks, directly addresses the audience from the screen and essentially a voice-over - moves inside the frame, inside the frame, yes, that is, as if the author is talking to the viewer and commenting on what he is doing, well, in general , without 5 minutes lars fontrier, by the way, this is an interesting optics for watching this movie. maybe this should be done, uh,

use something unusual to see something unusual in what aleoznova did, but then the film was not accepted at all, and this is already a different era, after...

art is the work of condensing goodness, that this is her cinema, it it should not just talk to the audience, it should help them. somehow this is the very good, i don’t know, to accumulate, or something, to fight evil, yes, which is very difficult, in general, her heroes, to one degree or another, fight this evil, be it some kind of production yes relationships or family relationships, be it a woman, a soviet teacher, nursing an english pilot, in a school occupied by the germans, making her way to the partisans, or be it a woman who raises other people's children, all this is some kind of work of condensing goodness, and it seems to me that this is her main legacy , liozny’s legacy, although the themes of the paintings are different, the message for her was always the same.

it’s hard to say what your favorite shot is, after all, there aren’t that many films, from lioznova’s films, well, i won’t, i won’t be original, after all. i didn’t go for any experiments with the form, although, well, to film two episodes in one carriage, you know, if this is not an experiment, then well, but nevertheless it was important for her to speak with the viewer in a rather simple language, and nevertheless, in this simple language she said quite complex things, extremely, extremely economically,

but i really like the scene where the stirlitz man at the end of the film at the end of the film just sits on the side of the road and does nothing, but at the same time... the tension does not weaken, of course, it is intensified by the music, but we are immersed in this together process, we're waiting, that's how it is we would have already talked about this once, that levozno is one of the creators of the canon of the soviet television series, but this works not just a television series, yes, it is a movie, a big movie, in which the same high tension as on the big screen, this was an episode of witnessstein’s podcast, dedicated. soviet director tatyana lioznova.

hello friends, this is the chronicles of the end times podcast. and i, evgeny dodoleev, will tell you today about jeans. jeans, not to be confused with jeans, these are materials in the press. which are kind of advertising, because they were paid for money, but they don’t look like advertising, and advertising is not the main thing for the publisher, because this money is taken either by some employees of the publication, or simply by the journalists who prepared the material, or by the journalists who published the material, i started working in media, that is, in the press in the mid-eighties, you can’t believe it... then there was no advertising at all, either on television or in newspapers, but jeans already existed, that is, there was no official advertising, but there was already an unofficial one, in the newspaper in which it was youth edition, very popular, moscow, the salaries were very

small, i already talked about this, but i will repeat, i received the so-called half-time rate, it was 130 rubles, but in the youth publication in which we worked, they did not pay this salary, they paid exactly half of this rate, 65 rub. well... 130 was received only by employees of the editorial board, i must note that it was possible to earn much more at the plant in those years, simply because the 20th century was generally a century of baghemism, that is, at least in that environment , in which i grew up in the capital, it was generally believed that the military profession, working profession, it’s all somehow not the same, here’s a baghenka - yes, baghenka, culture, media, artists,

the newspaper was published, as they say, that is, he put his signature, after that the newspaper went to the printing house, was printed, and a few hours later, cars all over moscow were delivering it to kiosks, the press union to subscribers, to post offices, which means why a fresh mind, because it was assumed that the responsible member, and i headed the youth student department in this newspaper, he spent the whole day resting fresh and coming in the evening

issue, when the pages have already been laid out, he proofreads these pages, and since it is fresh, he finds certain mistakes with a fresh look, without any confusion, and he reads directly from top to bottom, from the header to the last signature, he checks everything including the output data. but uh, actually, i don’t know about the rest of my colleagues, i just don’t remember it, but uh, i never had the patience to sit there all day at home and relax, i don’t know what to meditate, what to do, no, just uh, well okay, it was the time - the eighties, that is the journalists generally all drank, that is, i arrived somewhere in the middle of the day together with my colleagues, drank and, quite intoxicated, sat down at the table in this er on duty room. read the strips, well, i must say, there wasn’t a single mistake, everything seemed somehow

normal, although of course there were very funny moments that were not related to jeans, i’ll say right away, related to different ideas about beauty associated with censorship, but i repeat, there were jeans , well, really very selective, only in one section, as far as i remember, this section was here a hit of parades and in general. everything that had to do with the music industry, with show business, then the host of this column was dmitry shavirin, my friend, and he quite openly practiced reciprocity, that is, he came to him, like i have a stage right here, now here is yura, the leader of one of the bands popular then in the mid-eighties, so he brought - balyk cognac to dima so that his group would move

a couple of positions higher in the hit parade, the first five, everything was fair, the first five were not at all it was sold, that is, it was all by letters, readers were made by letters and e-mails, there was no internet, no e-mail, paper letters just stupidly arrived with a note that it was in this section that people printed envelopes, took letters, counted it all manually everything was listed somewhere, it was considered like this, that is, the first five were not for sale, the sixth seventh eighth, that is, from ninth place to sixth, it was possible to move up, that is, in principle, i will repeat everything was quite fair and dima said sternly, yura, we have a lot of girls working balyk, good cognac , we need more candies, yura said, yes, now i ’ll bring methane, and said, no, we won’t have time, we’ll sign the number, and therefore

don’t forget the candies for the next hit parade , when yura tried to take the cognac back, dima said, no, it won’t work back, it will be taken into account, that’s how it all looked quite funny, by the way, the following story came out with dmitry shoverin with these hit parades, i was 5 years ago in the year nineteen - i worked on a book for the anniversary of a very famous soviet rock band, and i recorded interviews with musicians, naturally, with ae journalists who wrote about music, including... with dmitry shavrin, and he, in particular, in his interview, which was included in this book, was published , said that our legendary composer, pakhmutova , wrote denunciations to yakov, to the central committee of the cpsu, that is, the highest governing body, for those who are in the tank, i explain, complained about these very hitporades,

that some incomprehensible, unprofessional people appeared there rock bands, but... worthy songs, that means they don’t appear there, since one of the speakers of this book, that is, one of the people i interviewed for this collection, was alexander borisovich gradsky, after reading the book, and having read this passage by shavirin about the danos that pakhmuta wrote, he called me in rage, well, how he loved there with... with obscenities, that is, he masterfully mastered profane speech, at first he attacked me, i said: “sash, well, you, you understand that this is direct speech, that so to speak, i’m like i would be talking with a person, if the person thinks something needs to be said, then i generally i’m categorically against bankruptcies and censorship, i can either refuse a person altogether, in principle, no, you won’t be there in this book,

let’s say, but if i agree, then i can only correct some turns, failures. zinspitz was already punched in the face there, now that means it’s my turn, i don’t know how their conversations ended, the showdown, uh, sasha categorically ruled out the possibility of pakhmutov writing a denunciation, by the way, it seems to me too, well ... then wildly, perhaps shavrin himself

was told that she complained somewhere about at some kremlin banquet, she could tell someone in a conversation that there is... such a section, such a hit parade, there are such and such songs in first place, some songs, not even a fact, that she meant hers, although she is wonderful, brilliant, i would say composers, someone there called the editor-in-chief, the editor-in-chief called the column leader, scolded him, and dmitry could draw a conclusion about what that means, it was a denunciation , in short, here are the jeans in this form, i was present, then...

the fourth estate, because this inertia, not so much trust in the press, but there was actually a real understanding that this word, if it is printed on a newspaper page, then this is some kind of ultimate truth , there is some kind of word of power, to the ninetieth birthday of alexander shirvint, tonight... you will learn all the behind-the-scenes secrets of one of the most popular and beloved theaters in our country, everything, the safira theater, that has changed over these 50 years, nothing, the same rake, an interesting thought, yes iconostasis with mine police, i was a little scared, and then i thought, what if this is sincere? nina grigorievna

comes up to me. from different sides, they say: it seems to me that i’m doing something wrong, snow is falling on the beach, it feels like somewhere out there the papanov are getting ready to come out, orosiev’s stage will come out with fireworks, andrei mironov will definitely come out, when did your duet take shape? with mikhail derzhavin, well , count here for so many years, you have parapsychologists visiting, how hard it is to be an artistic handler, he says, an artistic handler, maksik. it's whipped carrot, but when the carrot is in the hands of the carrot, tomorrow is the first, in the new season it is the first. a woman is killed, and we’re talking about the devil and my heart isn’t breaking, do you know how she’s torn, they just give away the shoulder and pull the elbow. well, let's think about it,

let's say you're a mole, you're wanted, there are leads on you in all parts of the soviet union, and no matter how good your training is, sooner or later you will still be identified, and this is a mortal danger. or you have a second very well thought out option of escaping abroad. well of course, i would run in, what will choose the moles, that’s the question, be careful, i’m always careful, major, find the head of the security service, have him urgently report to the control room, and mobilize all our employees, everyone you can, the whole version is going to hell , a man with a stutter suddenly speaks like cicero, i really hope you don’t have to. blame yourself for not wanting to help us, you are a very good shooter, hello, colonel kostenko,

confrontation, premiere based on the legendary book by yulian semyonov, this is a podcast chronicling the end times i'm evgeniy dodleev, i'm telling you about such a media phenomenon as jeans, a lot of people, without even wanting it, journalists, well , i'm speaking for myself, were deprived of jobs, some positions, i remember how my friend and i went during the winter student holidays in some boarding house, we were either given the wrong room or not accommodated at all.

speaking, we published it, having returned from, i don’t remember the name of the boarding house, but it doesn’t matter, from the moscow region, there was such and such a raid, like a raid, we returned from this raid and you came out with this article, this report about how in the boarding house you won’t believe it, the students are singing, oh. laughter and sin, yes, this boarding house was on the balance sheet of the ministry of foreign trade, and i don’t remember what day

of the week the article was published, but after the weekend there was a resolution that two deputy ministers were removed, lost their positions because there were students there basically... 40 of some course, a lot of people suffered many years later, at some party, i crossed paths with umar dzhabrailov, a very famous businessman and entrepreneur, he he said with a grin that he, too, was some kind of komsomol leader in the hemo there and he also suffered through the article, i didn’t mean that , it’s just that, well, well, we went journalistic.

and they bought, that is, these articles and prices came out, although very quickly, literally, this was a period of 2-3 years before official advertising appeared, with these advertising modules with jeans already like this, which went through the advertising department, that is, the material did not look like advertising, that is, without any details, well, actually performed the functionality of one or another promotion. that is, very quickly these prices rose, including the prices for the services of corrupt magazines, that is, here are the people who practiced, so...

and there often these custom-made materials, they went through, so to speak, were cashed out, that is, people brought money, cash, conditions were negotiated, these materials were published, and i must say that often custom-made materials were much better in quality than journalistic materials, well, simply significantly, why, because above it, if i don’t know some bank or some... was collecting invoices, professional people wrote, that is, it was a very high-quality product that the magazine decorated, i remember such an episode, i was invited to the work of his friend, mikhail vladimovich liontiv, he combined this with his television work and was the editor-in-chief of the magazine, and i was, well, sort of the publishing director of this entire publishing house, where i was a member and - so he

often came and said, you know, i’m here they offer money, such and such, such and such, well, it was always decent money, that is , it was always thousands of dollars, there from five to 25, i like the material, i will supply it, where to send the person, and well, i sent there to the financial director, this money was sort of cashed in, in 2008 mikhail vladimirovich and i went to kiev to launch. franchise of our publication, we published a russian-language version here in moscow under the license of a german weekly, and our kiev friends said that they want to publish this there in ukraine, so we went to launch this publication, and i, of course, was shocked at how completely different things were there, because they really ran away.

my friends and colleagues were offended when we said that well, we are older brothers, not in the sense that we are somehow bigger and bigger, but in the sense that they are several years behind us in some, in everyone with regard to the media, that is, it was 2008, and they were in this sense, uh , the nineties, and then we also found out that there - directly connected to this monetary circulation for... materials and also the special services, this was a discovery for mikhail vladimirovich and me, now i move on to the most interesting, in my opinion, in this conversation with jeans, the aspect about covers, that means , covers have always been expensive, i came up with such a thing in the publishing house, since there were several publications, one magazine was advertised in others, well, what

comes out there... but even there, i don’t know, the june issue of this magazine, and advertising went on all other magazines, so the person who got on the cover, and there was one business magazine, in my opinion, it was the only business magazine where you could put men on the cover, because all the other women's magazines, that is, there were a lot of what are called men's magazines - this means with women not always dressed or not very dressed on the covers, and there was one magazine where we published uh people, took money for it, well, officially at the cash register, uh, that is, how it was formalized, that is, we agreed with the person that he is buying the official advertising modules in this or that building, no matter where, the amount for the cover was simply included there, that is, the cover cost from twenty- five, then up to 30,000 - this is the beginning of zero dollars, 25, 30, 30. 5,000 maximum, but i

always explained during negotiations with pr people, that this is the face that you want to promote, it will not only be on the cover, it will be in all these magazines. and considering that on average an advertising strip cost 10,000 more, that is, he received the hundred thousandth such package for 30.00, but not we took everyone’s money because we would like for this person to be, firstly, recognizable, and secondly, it would somehow, in general, please someone, either the owner or the editorial team, and or in my opinion as the publishing director . reader, so one day a banker approached us, i won’t name this bank, not because it was headed by some eastern comrade, because it doesn’t matter who exactly, and for myself, as soon as we left uh, people are coming at me from this

bank, i decided for myself that under no circumstances this person won’t, because it’s just reputational for the magazines, but it’s not good to refuse to say that no, that we have some kind of discrimination on this or that basis. i couldn’t, so i decided, out of the blue, to just name that figure, which is obviously unaffordable, i’ll repeat once again that the cover cost from twenty, twenty five to 35 thousand dollars, i just said, you know, we have everything reserved for the coming months , so excuse me, 150,000, imagine my surprise and displeasure when my interlocutor, it means, this pr man barked, said: okay, you can list it like a cash or so, i realized that that’s it, well, we ’re in trouble, that we have to answer for the market, that we’ll have to publish this cover, it was the most expensive of the ones i sold, i

say sold by me, because that i made a decision, the money didn’t go into my pocket from the covers i sold, we continue to talk about jeans and about... the license was purchased and, uh, i negotiated, such was the manager, quite famous in those years, michaelonpe uh, we met him there in some cafe and he he said that he wanted - the current editor-in-chief

of this publication to talk to me, and i immediately concluded for myself that we will have a different team, we are only buying the brand, only the name, eh? i’ll just explain why it’s important to buy a title, and not buy, let’s say, a team or, i don’t know, a kettle or a computer, everything that’s on the balance sheet of this magazine, because the name goes right under this or that brand, uh advertiser was lined up, that is, it was simply a business decision, because when some publication was created from scratch, first , so to speak, the publication is created, then it is calculated. there’s a target group, it shows what kind of magazine it is, the advertiser takes a closer look, understands whether he’s interested in it or not, and the big network brands, automobiles, i don’t know, watches, all sorts of washing powders, perfumes, they’re the solution... then they were accepted there

in the city of london or in the city of new york, they just knew that if such and such a publication appears in russia, then certain brands become part of this publication automatically, they didn’t... write who will be there on the cover, what will be written there, because there is a license, it’s clear what format it is, what content is there, that’s why i say again that i bought exclusively this brand, especially since that when a magazine brand is acquired, then you have the opportunity to place there those materials that the licensor has released, that is , the publishing house that sells you the license, it provides you with the entire package of different filming. and materials that can be translated so that you can print them in your publication, so i understood that this would be some kind of waste of time, and he arrived, he very temperamentally explained to me that the purchase was about to take place, but it was planned,

they already have the next issue almost ready, and there is a cover with a singer, some kind of singer, well, one of the types of singing cowards, and what is very important is that she should come out, because the filming, by the way, was expensive, several thousand dollars could be spent... on renting studios, on a trip somewhere... something like this for a photo shoot, because usually it’s not just a cover was being filmed, that is, there was also the so-called undercover material, that is, there... several pages were filled with filming and some photograph was left for the cover, so he so insistently said that it was very important that it come out, that i had already at that moment, when i was finishing my second glass of mineral water, i made a decision for myself that what the hell, well, there won’t be this singer, just 100%, and if he hadn’t come, i wouldn’t have said it, i probably would i used already prepared material rather than filming.

there is an international businessman about

whom they write in various wikipedias that he is a colleague of the famous japanese, a man who takes care of our athletes overseas in america, and hockey players, and tennis players, a very famous person, my friend andrei vandenko, who was my deputy at the beginning in the nineties... in the project there was such a new view, the first private weekly in russia, he was my deputy and i consider him the best interviewer, well , magazine and newspaper, i actually recommended andrei vandenko as a person who does a brilliant interview with this person, and the interview was recorded, he was shot for the cover, day x comes when the issue should go on sale. and i get a call again from the patient, he

says what kind of bullshit, like i just stopped at a gas station, there is a magazine there, on the cover there is a nice, well-known lady, i say, well, i have nothing to do with this at all, i i just recommended a person who will record the interview, well, now i’ll figure it out, i’m calling andrey, it’s called the fourth cover, here it is

professionally they put a businessman, that is, formally, they basically fulfilled the conditions, because the agreement was oral, that is, it was not formalized, they said, let’s put it on this cover, i don’t know how it ended, because well, man serious and so to speak, it’s unlikely that he liked how they treated him, but i think that somehow this... issue was settled, but there were stories of this kind with covers and i remember how in that very magazine licensed, men's magazine, i mean more let me explain once again, this is where girls usually appear quite naked on the cover of this magazine, in addition, we are also reporting to the licensee. because the licensor generally

monitors what is happening in those publications that are published under a license, the pr people of one mayor of a northern city contacted me and said that they did not take him on the cover of this publication too, because he is in a business publication and... i’m just saying this for fun, now i’ll find out, i’ll just call the city of london to our licensor and ask, is it possible? to decide, because the covers , that we were selling the covers, they knew that we were getting money, because this money was cashed, that is, it was not jeans in its purest form, so i called london, asked the curator, i say, andrew, we have this official, he recorded a video and is generally very advanced,

he wants to be on the cover, well, i roughly understand what the reaction will be, with a completely impeccable, as it seems to me, british sense of humor, he says: no question if he poses in a thong in the ass puts a cherry on herself, in this form, in general, we won’t object, and i honestly just told the sales people word for word, well, they laughed and that’s the end of it, but it wasn’t quite over, because she said, well, you know, at least this time sorry, can you at least get a job then, since we have such a large package, we have already prepared some money to hire a girl somewhere for pr or something, i say: for god’s sake, send it, we’ll see, what kind of girl, a girl arrived and parked right, it’s on the big androinskaya street, we had an office building of a publishing house, there

are tram tracks there, she parked right on the tram tracks, a bentley, everything is as it should be, it arrives, it’s already there - this story doesn’t end with the cover, but everything is very clear were happy, then i ended up finding a very efficient employee, who actually didn’t have to pay a salary, and who, by the way, didn’t pretend to appear on the cover, because there were such employees, i even once in in the same magazine

i decided to arrange it so as not to pay the models, i suggested it to the girls working in the publishing house. i repeat, there were about a dozen publications there to do photo shoots, if they were ready to take their clothes off, then like our our girls from our publishing house, i thought, well , we’ll have to persuade, you know, we had to build a filter, because so many wanted , my niece worked in this publishing house on the blocks, and i... could have refused her, although i must say that i later received strict orders from my relatives really scold me after this issue came out, we practiced sessions like this, that is, in addition to covers, we did there, for example, uh, well, there are restaurant chains, when a restaurateur has several establishments, we

did girls, a waitress from one restaurant, a hostess from another cafe, a director from... they didn’t write about her at all, so that she wasn’t mentioned, that is, i had a special person sitting in the editorial system, making sure that the name of this airline was not in any material, in any of the magazines didn't appear at all decent money was paid, that is, somewhere around 10 months.