relatives, where in one room, i don’t know, six people slept, oh, it was terrible, and somehow this first trip around the sites of moscow, it was about nothing, we returned to kaliningrad, the second one was already interesting, icq was popular back then, and since i’m a nocturnal person, i sat with you like a whale, at some point at night it came to me, hello, i’m writing hello, and so we started talking.

some kind of fateful accident then, i remember seryozha and i got together, went to whom did we go to? did you have a relationship with seryozha? with seryozha, yes, yes, we were a couple for 10 years, 10 years, yes, now we are just like friends, friends, yes, and i, you know, even then it was funny that moment when i came to the dog, i say, yura, what kind of dogs, and the little creations there, my dogs , kind ones, there are these... two dogs, mongrels, kind ones, who, you know, look at me like that, and then one, one is so fat, she has this, you know, dog smile, this one dragged me, i immediately i realized, this is definitely a kind one, here is the second one, she looked at me with sukarizny, and that means the first night, yura left the studio spend the night, that’s it, there’s someone to look after the dog, seryozha is sleeping, i turn on the tv, which means this fidgety girl is sitting on one side, suspiciously on the other side...

you see, she’s sitting like this in front of my face, her muzzle is me in the chair, she's making me ashes for, well, half an hour, and i 'm afraid to get up, and i remember that when she barked in my ear, i thought that at that moment i just had a break in my heart, it was the suspect's dog, as it turned out , she really wasn’t this dog in her younger years good, he told me this later, but since she’s old now, she didn’t bite anymore.

a second life for this song there who moves mubit just appeared and so if we take the same hits there it’s summer - and so on there love is poison and take them put a modern dance basis because you have music despite the guitars you want to dance to it , it’s danceable music that should be a hit on dance floors, in theory it might be possible to make a remastered collection of something you know , maybe we’ll get ready for it, here we are this year it will be 19 years old, wow, maybe we should do some kind of mastering for our twentieth anniversary, yes in our old compositions, but with a live sound we sound closer to rockopop, i add guitars, and heavier ones, well, so that there’s such a drive was to snatilo, again, when you have a completely live sound, you are no longer tied to outdated electronic music, yeah, yes, yes, yes, that’s why i always dreamed. i wanted to have

a full-fledged group, and not just dance-shams, that’s because i won’t have to fool around 10 years later there is a rework there. minus track, backing track, for example, we have already corrected some songs, they tightened up the kick drum, so that it rocks, you know, it wasn’t quite retro, but the instruments themselves, for example, in the poppies there is an accordion, we don’t touch it, because this one there it is, well

, the melody is important, because it’s the same as my voice, roughly speaking, people remember it, or for example, the new year of bed, there’s a loss at the beginning, it’s important, if i take it away, that’s already not new year's eve in bed. ira, in the chamomile field, what can you do? tell me about this song? and this song, by the way, is not our composition, this composition was by another author, this is a commercial composition, and people really like it, but i like the video in this song, i tried to transfer this song more into the video, yeah, because this one the buzz, this freedom, this summer. the ramash field is beautiful, but there is this inner mood there, unity with nature, it’s like that in this video in this song, it’s also there. listening to the daisy field performed by the group chile in podcast 20 years later.

day night day the door opens and the warmth comes, hot afternoon, i love everything that is around me, i do. i knew that the dog should be, exactly like this, i was waiting for you, on a field of chamomile in my heart, i will not guess whether you love or not, on

a field of daisies in my heart, you will kiss me, on a field of daisies in my heart . i will guess whether you love me or not, in the chamomile field in my heart, you are with me, you will kiss, you will kiss, you will kiss. what will you say if i fall in love senselessly you, my mother will even stop not understanding me, i’ve been waiting for so much, but when this time comes, i

’m so glad that you are with me, but... in the chamomile field in my heart, i won’t guess whether you love or not, on the chamomile field in my heart, you will kiss me, on the chamomile field, in my heart, i will not guess whether you love or not, on the chamomile field in my heart, you will kiss yourself. this is a podcast 20 years later, its host is konstantin mikhailov, my guest is the lead singer of the group chile, irina zabiyaka, ira, hello again, do you remember then

20 years ago, what you dreamed of and what came true? well, 20 years ago, i just arrived, uh, in kaliningrad. there were often times when i wanted to give up everything, something didn’t work out, it didn’t work out, everything was fine, you know, sergei, i even had a couple of depressions, i say, why are you depressed, to us? what are they losing, let's go, as it will be, so it will be, the funny thing is that we went to moscow in the summer, i say, let's not take winter clothes, i have the mind, please tell me, i didn't have it then, judging by everything seems to be already it was more than 20 years, but we won’t take it, because we will earn 100% before the cold weather, well, we’re basically right in the cold weather. we entered into an agreement with the velvet company, i managed to get sick, they miscalculated how much

and just a little, but it happened a month and a half later, yes, than i wanted a month, but it worked, well, you still remember what i dreamed about, now i’ll earn money and they gave an ellipsis, that ’s what i was before the birth of a child, i was generally an immaterial person, then money was not so important to me, i did not suffer, that i’m not there... your own home, you didn’t look into the future, you lived here now, yes, it’s still a child, he lands a little, and that’s right, it should be so, even for such an airy person like me, me i need to return it, probably, after the birth i began to think about the material component, that this is important, that this is necessary, this is school, this, i don’t know, some vacations that were already planned more, that is, there is spontaneity, but became her. a little less, yes, that’s kind of it, but where are the vacations?

well, last year we went to kaliningrad, we went to buzuluk, a wonderful place between orenburg and samara, i really like to go to kyrgyzstan, tinchen, and isukul, there is a wonderful, incredible vacation there, and why do you live outside the city, you don’t like the city , i realized that it turns out that i’m not such an extrovert in life, i’m more of an introvert, i’m sociably open, yeah. but most of the time i prefer to do without communication, yeah, i like silence, peace, as my mother said, who came to see me once, she he says, how can you live like this, quietly, darkly, as if you were in a coffin, he says, turn on the tv in the background, well, it’s impossible, i’m the kind of person that it was quiet, twilight, and my husband, he’s similar in this regard, we’ve never there is no overhead lighting in the house, we just love it. this is where i get my kicks, if

they had told me 20 years ago, yes, you will live in the village, i would have said, oh well, gentlemen, no, it’s just outside the city, here is life itself, but somehow over time, yes , probably something has changed, or maybe it’s the other way around true nature, without this illusory, some kind of illusory bustle, yeah, you know, while you live in moscow, you do a lot... a lot of unnecessary and superfluous things, when you live outside the city, you go to moscow only for the necessary things important thing, this is what you know, this is real life, it’s there outside the city, you all relax together, i don’t know what we have somehow, how we’re all together, this is my dream, probably all together , first of all, we have separate meals, the child does not eat what we eat, so it works for me, i mean for for example, i’ll cook peppers for us. stuffed or cabbage rolls, and matvenchik will say: i don’t like this, i’d like fried potatoes, please, well, that is, we have

this from time to time, sometimes we coincide, everyone wants fried potatoes, hurray, that’s it, today we all eat fried potatoes, and this often happens, yes, i cook for him separately, but he is unpretentious, he basically loves potatoes, pasta, sausages, salads, that’s all, he usually cooked it for 10-15 minutes, made it, now we have peppers , dumplings. it seems that we have just a type of activity, we well, this is great, well, yes, you know, i

have a creative family, yes, my husband is a musician, me too, and somehow we don’t need it for us, there’s no such thing that we work from morning to evening for 5 days per week, yes, then we, of course, when we have this kind of routine, people eat everything at the table in the evening, share news, no, we don’t have that, so we do it a little differently. so that it would ideally be with you, with your family, i don’t know, and in general what do you dream about in 20 years, in 20, oh, about health, probably, yeah, i want everyone to be healthy, you know, when you are 20 years old you somehow don’t think about health at all, yes, well, somehow your parents are quite young, but when

your parents are already elderly, my mother has lived, you understand how important this is, after another 20 years health. because the mood is most often spoiled by poor health, and after 20 years, somehow this seems important to me, so that you can calmly walk, walk, enjoy, go somewhere, have enough money just for small trips, you don’t need to go there -flying there for fabulous money, it doesn’t matter, it’s a thrill happiness, it’s all here, due to the fact that i’ve toured a lot, i understand that in our... country there are a lot of incredible places, yeah, and you don’t need to go far, it’s important that in 20 years it was healthy, because you know a couple of what you saw on videos, yes, where there are elderly women dancing, traveling somewhere, it’s a thrill when health is allowed to do this, thank you very much, i think , what a great point, here this coupe, as

a rule, fulfills a wish, so we will assume that this is your wish, i wish you health, i wish you... further creative heights. this is a podcast 20 years later, my guest was the lead singer of the group chile, irina zabiyaka. and we will listen to the song: love is poison. you can find all episodes of the podcast 20 years later on the channel one website. they say, love is me, they don’t sing songs about, they are silent, they say, lychee, heal, doctors are helpless about this today, and so on all day, and so on for a whole year, they say that it will soon

pass, but maybe not, then forever, or maybe, or maybe, or maybe, there is such a bark that he loves while dying, la-lai-lai, the story is like this, la-lay-lay, maybe there isn’t one, they forgot everything, larena, alone in the world, and yes in the morning in the apartment. don’t turn off the light, it seems yes, it seems no, they say that

all this is nonsense, some kind of magic. for the slagena , the eccentric came up with love, named it so that it lives somewhere and settles down, draws a mezel from white flowers, is sad about something and does not sleep at night, and knows, and knows that somewhere there is such a different larai that loves dying, la, lai, the story is,

hello, this is a psychic podcast and we continue to open the windows of your lives to the world bright, joyful and practically problem-free, or at least we try to do so. today our heroine, psychologist, doctor of cultural studies, professor andrei sberovsky, is working with me. veronica came to us with such an amazing and maybe even a little flirtatious request, which, however, had depth behind it. if i understand correctly, veronica, you are tired of being strong and strong-willed. a strict woman, are you tired of yourself, or are those around you tired of your strength and will? well, it happens that some people

suffer from this, let's tell us in more detail, what brought you to us? lately, since i’ve been building a business, this has happened because i had to end my relationship with my husband, and wait, you ended your relationship with your spouse and you had to build a business, exactly like that, in order to survive? or because you finally got the freedom to do it? precisely in order to survive, to pay off all debts, in order to feed the children, and accordingly, so that we could live somewhere, i had to have more than one child, two children, 6-8 years old, beautiful girls, yeah, what happened to your spouse, where did the debts come from? unfortunately, the majority of the russian population had a lot of debt, including my husband, so he didn’t have a credit history, or rather it was very bad, it was like... i had to take on a lot of debts, i left and left you a rich an inheritance in the form of a long time, i left, and you left, i left, yes, so, so, and what was wrong with him, with your husband, why was everything

fine, he is a wonderful expert in his field, a specialist, but to unfortunately we don't we were able to find common things, or rather, we diverged in common knowledge, i probably went into business, into sales, i wanted from some other life, my husband decided to stay in the same positions. where he has, although he has enormous potential, but unfortunately, he did not want to realize it. you know, andrey, i now have the feeling that i am sitting at a meeting with some major director of a large plant, who is giving a countdown on the past period, and this probably has prospects, but for now there is a feeling that the director likes to be director, himself in fact, i don’t see a contradiction yet, because i see a girl who went into self-realization, went consciously, broke up with her husband consciously, that is, a girl in principle...

directly from the point of view of children, from the point of view of work, from the point of view of obligations , that is, i really had to accumulate a lot of obligations on myself, not because i want it so much, but i really don’t want it that way, i want everything so it’s a huge burden of ease, i want to relax, i want to get high, and not work for satisfaction. needs, and who are these needs for you? determined that you need exactly this level of needs, you need now i have my own picture of the world, it exactly contains the level of my life that i want, this is realization, this is constant travel, these are new opportunities, but what ? and i feel comfort in this, we say, you feel comfort in what, at that moment will you feel comfort when you reach this picture of the world or now? when you achieve it, do you feel comfortable? the key point is that i saw before that there is some level of comfort that i want come, but now i understand that i’m going to this level of comfort through a process that

you no longer like, but it’s hard for me, where the heaviness manifests itself, you’re nervous, you don’t get emotional, you break down, you have insomnia, so what is it then, what is the heaviness, the stress, the fears that things might not work out somewhere. the fact that i, for example, may not be able to keep up with children somewhere, when electrodes are attached to the heels, through which current is pumped, yes, you run faster, that where there is fear, you need to grow, but for yourself what is the problematic story, because a person who goes into business, in principle, especially such a serious adult, as if yes, voluntarily, he usually understands that life is and business is a struggle, this is such a constant story where there is no rest there , no sleep, in principle, people actually get pleasure from this, from the fact that they are all needed.

constantly supports, this is much easier to do. at the moment, there is no exactly that support from the point of view where, probably, i would have started much easier, faster and understanding, that from the point of view of relationships, as probably with most women, we are still inexperienced, we get married at 23, then our views completely diverge, some grow in relationships, others remain at this level, always in principle for me there was a gradation that when we got married, my husband was much more. 20 years taller than me, we have a difference ; moreover, wow, yes, here, and after he seemed to stop in place, i began to grow very sharply, and this delta

with my husband and i increased multiple times, that is, it turns out:

under tension in a pleasant way, yes, but so that i it was easy and joyful, so that there wouldn’t be a concrete slab of obligations hanging over me, so that there wouldn’t be a concrete slab of obligations lying on my shoulders, and so that the hammer wouldn’t be hammering down on me from above, that the contract might be broken, the loan wouldn’t be paid, the obligations wouldn’t be fulfilled in front of some partners or employees, we see who we see in front of us now, yes, we... an excellent student, yes, she is an excellent student, just from her toenails to the top of her head, yes, she is saturated with this , largely an imaginary world, ambition, excellent student and obligations, it seems to me that this is the problem, you are certainly right to the point, and if we probably think how it all started, always all the problems from childhood, i want to point out here that now everyone

is telling me, you... a soldier in a skirt, that's what you need, you do it, you make up everyone around you, delegate there, and control, but you want to come like this, guys, let's go, do this , this, this, but you have to live in a slightly different rhythm so that you can be heard, but i know that there are wonderful examples where a woman comes, a leader, she easily distributed tasks to everyone, everything worked out for her, and i think that this is at the level of thinking and some kind of attitudes, because as a child my dad gave me such a serious attitude, that’s right, there is no word i want , there is a word needed, probably this is someone who was not given such an attitude, you know, yes, if we take it simply, if we really evaluate life, then 99% grow up in this environment, some live easily, some no, so in fact these are the parental settings, we often use them we overestimate their importance, because everyone is told good attitudes, people live differently, so here let’s not

make them responsible for... who create images that do not correspond to reality, so believe me, as a psychologist with a thirty-year work experience, all these light, strong women are not really like that, so he looks around, this is a well-developed mask, with which everyone has half their own psychologist, someone still has a husband or a sponsor, who is simply not visible, in fact, therefore, but in fact the idea itself, your desire itself, it’s somehow easier to live, of course, it has a right to exist, of course we

will help you, because natalya and i are in this... but the children need to be shown that we we don’t train them, we don’t educate them, we just set some kind of example, and even now i notice with my older child that she can pre-shout somewhere at the younger one, that is, this is how it should be done, then that is , she sets boundaries and i myself set boundaries for children, that is, i influence them, it turns out the same thing in a team, okay, in a team okay, i can set some boundaries, my own rules, because this is my business, my rules, probably from the point of view...

of the children and people around me, well, sort of to others, no, i’m probably more for children, but i dictate my own rules, which i explain like this. that’s right, but the key thing is, i don’t just prohibit something, i always explain why it’s needed, why it’s like this, and what you don’t like, let’s give a banal, probably example, as all parents know, but i have a clear schedule there is a dream, that is, i see parents who calmly let their children sleep there, oh, they walk, they walk, they don’t have any routine, but with me it’s all about discipline, with you we have to eat so much, these procedures need to be done, at the age of 9 to sleep, that is, i clearly do this, probably for...

this is a psychic podcast, where i, journalist natalya loseva and psychologist andrei sberovsky, analyze the situation of our heroine veronica, who has taken on too much of herself and is already tired of it. well, look, well, we see a whole series of very contradictory positions, here is a girl, on the one hand, says that she is a leader, a successful leader, on the other hand, she has a feeling of guilt in front of her children about what does not give them a happy childhood, as if we have multidirectional trends, as we would say vectors . and in this case, you still need to try to prioritize the stories, because you need to understand that there is always a leading line of attack, if you are a businesswoman, after all, as i understand it, your dominant position is self-realization, then you need to understand that

unfortunately, yes, you always have to sacrifice something and somewhere the children there won’t see their mothers there, in fact, i just see in this case that you are excessively taking on several images of yourself at once, which of course you don’t need to pull, you of course are them ... you can pull, and you are clearly pulling them, but at the same time you experience a feeling of discomfort, so my advice, in this case, let’s clearly distinguish the zone of your development, the zone of your development is after all a business, in this part, what ’s there will be with the children half an hour earlier or later they will go to bed, let's not consider this such a significant task, let’s start, solve the main problem, i understand correctly that this is to become easy in business, communicating with your subordinates, clients, customers, contractors and so on, that’s how we formulate. yes, yes, and i ’ll clarify, it’s easy, it’s easy only for them or for myself too, and for myself too, well, this is an interacting, interconnected story, because as i understand it, there are some apparently complaints being heard in the team, yes or who -it tells you that either you yourself, or

simply being too self-reflective, decided for yourself, that you are directly creating difficulties for someone who decided this, i’ll say now that there are now very interesting master groups, so i’m talking about the environment, i have a master group where we communicate very closely with everyone and gather masters we have a group of 10, oh, six entrepreneurs who constantly communicate once every two weeks and lay out as much as possible everything they have, there are psychological issues, business issues, we discuss everything, that is, you exchange such hot experiences, yes, and directly , i was interested in the question and you need to answer as frankly as possible, be that as it may, i asked a question, guys, tell me, what are my disadvantages, how have you been assessing me for six months already, what are the disadvantages, where can i grow up? any minus is a point of your growth, to which everyone unanimously said that i’m specifically some kind of soldier in a skirt, i’m pushing myself into a framework in terms of discipline and life,

i’m directly passing it on to others, that you also need to live like you you correctly noted, i have my own picture of the world, and i pull people there, well, as far as you need to be a hostage to the opinions of these five people who?