uh bradley, that is, we understand that this bradley is some kind of just a hero-lover in every way, although he is a tax inspector and an unlucky writer, why is this man, seemingly so boring, generally not handsome according to the description, why is he so excited the souls of all the characters, it seems to me that he doesn’t stir souls, these are all some fictitious feelings that are attributed to him after the fact, if we take a friend’s wife, rachel, i don’t think that she was in... in love with bradley, i don’t i think that there was love, there was a desire for revenge, there was a desire to at least somehow make up for this emotional lack, the ex-wife too, she rather wanted attention and somehow improve her self-esteem, in my opinion, there was no love there either, with julian, with colostrum, was there love, it seems to me, no , it was some kind of hobby and there was admiration for bradley as a writer, as with some kind of...

intellectual, a specialist in shakespeare, perhaps, but no, it was, it was not love, and, accordingly, francis, this is generally very a strange character who also, i think, has no real feelings experienced, by the way, it’s interesting, uh, critics draw a parallel in the novel the black prince, when the hero finds himself in a whirlwind of other people’s passions, as if everyone attributes to him some kind of love merit, critics compare: this is with the statement of iris murdoch herself in early interviews , when her first fame came, she said that she did not understand how to behave, when everyone seemed to have elevated her to be eaten by everyone, as if they were in love with her, although in reality this is not so, it is a fiction, it seems to me this is exactly the feeling she conveys in the black prince. this the podcast is a must read, i'm glana batnikova. and the writer vera

bogdanova and i are talking today about iris murdoch’s novel, the black prince. and tell me, please, vera, you are also a young, beautiful woman, you are also a successful writer, you feel, perhaps, some similar conflicts with ira smordok, that is, you yourself say that here she is, faced with fame, she i encountered a certain, well, double bottom of this love, that is, it may not be entirely sincere love, yes. do you understand what this is, what kind of conflict this is? there is such a thing, namely there is a certain admiration for the image, because in fact none of the viewers who will watch this program now or those who read my interview or even those who read my books, none of them know the real me , which is logical, this seems to me, an absolute understanding that some image that is imposed on... me by readers,

viewers, which has nothing to do with me, can also play a cruel joke, because in some way moment you begin to adapt to this image, and also bradley, the main character of the novel, merdyk, he also at some point begins, he seems to be carried into these images, he really begins, although he did not want, for example, a relationship with rachel, some kind of affair, but he was in this starts an affair, listen, it seems to me that there is very typical behavior there, you know, how rachel behaves and how her daughter julian behaves, and we see just from examples that rachel she literally puts pressure on this bradley, she literally just overwhelms, seduces, he is forced, he is forced with her all the time be in some kind of intimate and communications, while he doesn’t want it, but she drags him into it, plus he saw some kind of intimate family scene, and maybe after that he feels even more uncomfortable to refuse rachel when she starts him seduce, but in the end it’s... an affair,

a half-hearted affair with julian’s mother, he somehow then impresses julian, that is, again , the mother then writes a letter, julian, that this bradley, he tried to seduce me too, it turns out, that julie makes some kind of heavy impression, she runs away and maybe this will play some role in their relationship, this is a hobby, but we see that this is how you shouldn’t behave, yes, how a woman presses on a man and how maybe she should behave, because she always... talks , well, somehow she always eludes this man, and maybe it will be this passion in him, it’s also not very clear what exactly the passion will be in him, because he knew julian for a long time, in fact, an affair from a man's face, here is iris murdyk, a woman, she writes from a man's face, this is a reliable narrator, we believe her, you do you believe that you, you have a feeling that these are male feelings in relationships, what are we women interested in? we think yes, how is this from

a man’s point of view, but on the other hand, there seems to be a convincing story here, but we also understand that the author is a woman. there are two moments here, the first, in my opinion, when a writer writes... and he is not a man, not a woman, he is the one from whom he writes, that is, the same thing with me, when i write from the perspective of a man, i at this moment this man, when i write on behalf of a girl, i am this girl, i’ll write from the perspective of a dog, which means i’ll be a dog for a while, that is, well, you’re just like on the side who says that i’m a writer, i even write love for a stool, yes, well, that’s how it works, that is it’s impossible, but in a good way - it’s clear that there are different situations and sometimes it doesn’t work out. but the reader just feels it when the author lives the hero or does not live the hero, when the author feels what the hero is experiencing, when the author just sketched out some, i don’t know, template image and left it like that , but let it go, this is with one on the other hand, speaking to...