where, where is he just frightening, here katya, misha, home, the parents called the children, they were playing in the sandbox, and he crawls, crawls, crawls, suddenly little katya comes up, she has such a makarov in her green bucket, and he crawls there, like this, he comes up, this uncle is a policeman, and this is not your gun, he ’s looking at it, no, i lost mine, jokes, tv series, come on, oh, that would be funny, this is the second part of the joke, when the guy is lying on the sofa and he a girl calls, he picks up, she says hi, he says hi, what are you doing, nothing, he says, i’m lying on the sofa, he says, my parents have left, they’ll only arrive tomorrow, maybe you’ll come, he says, come on, come on, she says, let’s watch tv, right? come on, come on, let's drink wine, yes,

come on, come on, we'll give each other a massage, yes, come on, let's kiss, yes, come on, let's make love, oh, i got the hint, i'm leaving to sum up some kind of result of our conversation, yes, look, look, despite the fact that, despite the fact that you are not a fisherman, in general, and neither of us are kazakhs, that is, and... everything same hobbies, they can be different, but still friendship, as you say, yes, it can appear suddenly, yes, as misha said, he started going for walks with dogs, became friends with someone, yes, if so you can say, or when there is a children's theme, this educational one, when you start walking and they appear there, you start communicating, and that is, it can appear suddenly, and you can also suddenly lose it, but then someone has moved somewhere. there is my

best friend, i don’t remember his name, but that’s what we laughed about at the beginning, one of my best friends, yes, so friendship should still be valued, and the best thing is that, probably, what unites us is still humor, and the fact that we played in kvn, we played generally great, there, well , thank god, we didn’t hear something about this somewhere, so i would like to address our viewers, maybe after today’s episode or right now. you still remember about some friend of yours, just call him or write, i think that this will only make things more positive for you, and of course for your friend. that’s it, keep your friendship, tell each other funny stories and jokes, this should make everyone a little more positive, that’s what podcast jokes are for, so we say goodbye to you for today, thank you, dear friends, thank you, friends, for watching us, see you again. bye,

hello everyone, this is a free program podcast, i’m maxim tronkov, our guest is maestro ilya overbukh, ilya, hello, hello, and, first of all, thank you for inviting me, because i always enjoy watching this so calm. time at night, when you really dig deep and have sincere answers, everyone here in this chair opens up very much, and i was waiting for this invitation, honestly, when it came, i pushed everything apart, immediately jumped up, now the federation pays a lot of attention to the development of the artistic side skating among athletes, that is, in principle, now the field for your activity is directly open, there are a lot of requests, coaches ask a lot, they call asking to deliver... well, quite a lot,

quite a lot, in general, i’m so proud that there are many programs, in general in sports programs, with which the guys won, including when zhenya medvedeva and i collaborated, just two of her years, when she became a two-time world champion, we did all the programs, with yulia lepnitskaya there was the mishka program lida, with pair skating, with ice dancing, with liza tuktamysheva, we did sports programs and many artistic programs, this is of course, well, the main thing is to find this character, in principle, well, almost everything i worked with dima aliyev, of course, i would like to be with markomyuk too, because the guy is very artistic, he feels the world, we are very similar to him, this is his charisma, but so far we have only left just such demonstration dances, now it is an international federation.

he’s just thinking about moving from technical complexity to artistic complexity, how do you feel about this, about this initiative? well... i should of course fight, i should of course shout that yes, yes, because figure skating is forever, yes it is sports art, i still think that this story connected with the exorbitant bar of jumps, it certainly excites and delights people more than these moments of art, even take the fantastic breakthrough of our girls, when our girls jumped these endless quads jumping. and this is the struggle of quadruple jumps, anyway, we talked first of all about this, when everything comes together, when it really is not just gymnastics, well, in terms of execution, when it also fits into a single image, for example, probably one of those programs that i didn’t stage there, but i’m absolutely considered there, it’s

a ballerina, yes, well, you can just admire this program endlessly, when every jump is organic, this is of course the highest story, everyone dreams about it. but if you still compare, then probably the technique of the elements wins the interest, why are you, being a director from god, always talking about dances, commenting on dances, but never work with top performers in terms of performances, dancing takes a lot of time , well, objectively, firstly, salin copes on his own, but our leaders cope perfectly well with their team, why? it doesn’t work out, i don’t know, well, right now i just think that there are so many of these ins and outs in ice dancing that i’m not fully interested yet, probably, but honestly, on the other hand, no one like me he said, no one is inviting, yes, if of course, senitsa

invited me to the scythes, but who would be happy, then a couple in general, you look at them, you just simply do running races and you already get aesthetic pleasure, because well, they are both absolutely beautiful. guys, and of course, this is such material, but here i am - directly in public, so that sasha doesn’t think, cheating, that i ’m going to catch him there, i directly ask you, let me do a demonstration dance with him, and if zhulin offered you such an option, that you're putting kotselapov's number on the russian challenge next year, but you're not putting it on anyone else, or it's already a question of money, and so far something is not very good with money, you always have. i’m honestly not lying, you can pick me up at my word later, i even - probably in any case, but of course it’s hunger and thirst, well, honestly, not for money, but the thirst

to be with everyone and with this and that and to show your versatility of your talent, of course it comes out of you, but this year i realized , which i did because i had quite a lot of numbers. i missed some things, i didn’t have time to finish watching, for example, work with your students, at yours, your tarasov school, i was left with dissatisfaction here, i didn’t finish it, well, i didn’t see it, i didn’t wait, after all, everything was on the run, it could have been done so that if already this the idea, then it had to be conveyed, or vice versa, as i did in the previous season with lesha yagudin, when we did a dance in general, like me, no one ever sees it. it was the blues, it was such a sophisticated story, we tried to make humor with the sounds there, so he makes this humor, i sit for 2 days, i say, lyokha, this is complete, it’s simple, it’s impossible to watch, this is not humor, this failure, and we start sitting all night and put it out, but there’s a slap on mikita na,

at first no, well, how long has it been all over again we rolled around, on mikita pa, but then i understand that it’s still like that, somewhere those elements that were already collected, as you understand, that were then, we changed here. it came and by the morning the picture had taken shape and i realized that there would be no questions, he and lyosha, when they understand, everything works out, i didn’t have that kind of time, but when you’re just already chasing here, when there’s nowhere to retreat, you go, it was necessary to look, it was possible to simply say, so this is all postponed, now there is another option, and even more so with their professionalism it was possible, because of this race, because there were a lot of numbers, i would think that if there is one like this right here where you can tell yourself:

all those elements, because of course, well, the base, the vocabulary the ice rink, of course, he no longer has the same one that he had and that the guys who are skating now have, and at. but he has fantastic magnetism, he just takes over like a boa constrictor - the entire refereeing team, takes over the hall, finding this solution with which he could surprise was really very difficult this season, so probably lyosha and me he devoured me from everyone else, and he planned me right here, but i’ve been with him for so many years, and he just kind of let go, but like a child who is jealous anyway, well, he’s like yes -yes, please, i just want you to tell me now. i need it now, so what’s here? you know, and

every time i’m alyosha, well, like lyosha, and he, of course, didn’t let me run through all the others, find this solution, find a topic so that he could talk and tell , take away, i think that lyosha should it's nice to give others the opportunity next year win, he showed himself perfectly. is he above the fray, or maybe he was just distracting you so that others wouldn’t create masterpieces? well, he wasn’t distracting, i don’t think he’s like that, he just wanted, he really really really wanted this story, in principle, it so happened that when liza tomysheva called and also sent music, i realized that we, in principle, this is practically the same as lyosha’s, only the one recorded almost won, and i say: “liz, well, you know, well, it’ll just be generally the same thing, i’ll just do both here and there, here we have poetry, instrumental here. he says, i ’m sure that lisa too, i think that of course, ideally, yes, i don’t know what lyosha

will tell me after this, but ideally, of course, the first two places could be divided, and the judges could already get their bearings, somewhere on the third judge, it was clear that, in principle , the two of them went into the gap and it was possible, as it were, but this is the judge, so not from figure skating, so that they could not navigate, and this is great, in fact, here i am i think that there was even such a key story there, that’s all, really boris eifman decided, because he, feeling, gave first place to liza, i remember, but in order to equalize, he should not have given a single point to lyosha. you are touching such, touching such a serious literary source, such a hero, this is a very difficult dangerous and responsible path, so only i understand, at the beginning of this path, i wish you success in comprehension. this path, because the knowledge and translation of such

the highest ideas into your art, into your technique, is a very difficult and long path, i i wish you success, and now i want to say my opinion, i gave alexei yagudin one point, victoria.

i try to look at everything through the eyes of boris eifman, but for me this is such a supreme comerton. tragic or lyrical numbers are much better appreciated, more in demand by judges and spectators than... numbers are cheerful, positive, cheerful, maybe what topic would you suggest for the next russian challenge, to satisfy everyone, so that this scale at least swings , okay, it didn’t stand straight, but not outweighed in one direction, this is the eternal problem of the ice age project, always, dramatic numbers win over life-affirming numbers, so yes, they are funny, superficial, just about happiness, so since i am the director myself.

you applaud the hero in the hall, bam, bam, so that it happens here, this only happens in dramatic numbers, but of course it’s impossible all the time, here we even... the general attitude, we support funny numbers, we support something , but i kept hearing something else, it was on after all, i brought it to light, whose program you liked from those that

you did not have a hand in in this russian challenge this year, well, this is, of course, masha with lesh. in order to win, to win against overbukh, i think that very often, well, many, well, it’s like the first mistake of those who look at what we’re going to put now, i don’t know, i just don’t want to offend anyone, but some- then the props, now he will save us, this will be all, so we, as it were, made an application, then we went again - to work, very

it’s important to continue the story throughout the entire performance, and it’s much more difficult to get started, well , a clear story, we outlined it at the beginning, then plus or minus movements into accents, so they shouldn’t just be accents, they should pronounce every movement, and there ’s a little bit here here’s the story, after all , the separation of the beginning of the number, then the technical richness, sometimes we hit the accent well, we didn’t hit plus or minus, and the way out is probably what i’m trying to do, what i pay a lot of attention to, and why are you took her hand, why did you? why can’t you take me by the shoulders, it’s too rude, lower your hands, raise your hands, press, hold, let go, no, rude, again, bad again, we stand for a long time, we look, this is all a very important process, after all, that’s all for now they are chasing this very literary idea, here we have an idea, but we kind of told it

in the first 20 seconds, then we moved faster, in general, of course, amateurs are in a hurry, why? professionals win over amateurs in the russian challenge tournament, mostly after all so far it is the professionals who win, if we take two seasons, they are no longer in a hurry, they already know how to work with a pause, they already know how to stand and pass, the amateur is in a hurry, they really want to put 1.00 elements into one second faster, all the tragedies of the century began with a shot that sounded june 28, 1900... 14 years old in a bosnian sarajevo. the desired goal of the serbian high school student was the death of the heir to the austro-hungarian throne, franz ferdinand. and the unexpected result was the first world war. a new one has arrived a cursed era,

global wars, revolutions, concentration camps of unprecedented cruelty, the fall of the empire. and the reshaping of the world, on the anniversary of the start of the first world war, the premiere tomorrow at the first, our guest today is a man, without whom figure skating would probably not exist in russia, ilya averbukh, i’ll go back a little a few steps, because that i really wanted to ask you about the topic at one point, usually when an athlete finishes, gradually, that is , this is already resting on his laurels, with rare exceptions, it seems to me that two pairs, one dance, russian, one sports, i’m talking, of course, about vika, senitsa, nikita katsalapov and evgenia tarasova vladimir morozov, who, as if after their olympic games, began to skate better than they even skated in sports, well, i’ll say this now things, no, this

happens to many people, well, i think that mm tatyana navka and roman kostomarov. after sports they skated better than they skated in sports, and they have an outstanding free program, and carmen, well, and the eastern eastern program, but still there was a lot sports, that’s how it was when they came out, you couldn’t take your eyes off it, by the feeling, by the fullness, when they don’t renounce lovingly, these are the demonstration numbers that we all remember very well, which are before our eyes, for me... the skills of stamarov we skated an order of magnitude higher than we skated in the port, few did so, for me, i would probably sharpen the question here a little differently, if possible, we have a certain feeling.

even in demonstration performances, the champions were looking for images and finding them. different forms, taught new elements, tricks, some unique ones elements, mainly at demonstration performances now people withdraw dividends,

and i believe that this is a huge part of the continuation of your career, where you are obliged to develop yourself, find new ones, especially since you have time, you don’t have to chase quadruples there specifically for exhibitions, well, at least two or three triple jumps, well, show us, we have some. this blow to yourself, yes, i’m absolutely talking first of all about the girls, everyone is trying, but i just think that we need to somehow change it in our head, that this is also a big part continuation of a career, that the career did not

end only then on the ground, the career continues, each time you go on the ice you need to confirm that you will win more and more new spectators, how realistic is it in russia to make contracts that would oblige athletes to show uh. high level at your, for example, shows on your tour? well, we have our own mentality, we are afraid of contracts, well, everything seems to be based on trust, but it is considered that this is so humiliating, that this is a contract story, but probably in general, this, in general, would be more honest in all respects, that is, there is a certain basis, it is clear that a person can feel differently, this does not mean that he should be there, sometimes it works, maybe at least attempts count, not counted. but some kind of story, because in general, if you take away all the lyrics, then you, now i’ll say a terrible word again, are buying a service, the service

of a person’s performance, and he is there and can try everything, this is a story, but on the other hand, how do you write down in the contract the number that the audience will win, you can write it down for me you need three triple jumps, well, yes, three triple jumps, there’s a triple throw with pair skating or. you have invested most of your life, your knowledge, your skill, you go to withdraw dividends with another person, but this is understandable, everyone has their own destiny, but you must

receive compensation for this, including financial, and compensation for your time, then you understand that you invest, one way or another, you work for yourself, for him, for the country in the end, but everything must be compensated, and for me it is compensated for those coaches who... took a ready-made student or the club that hired this coach, that is, everything is quite clear here, well, you buy a semi -almost finished product, and compensate for who made it? returning to your direct line of work, your favorite ice show, don’t you think that this level of what we said is falling, yes, in the execution of elements, attitude towards programs, it still suffers due to the fact that... now there is competition very big for you, too, because there are a lot of different tours, a lot of shows, a lot of people, whoever does this, athletes ride

absolutely everywhere. in principle, there are no exclusive relationships, well, one won’t take it, the other will take it, why bother? in general, i don’t have anything special to add, you can’t resist this wave in any way, well, do you agree with this or maybe i’m wrong, athletes should not depend on the fact that they are invited or not invited, there is a name, your name, and you go out, and the price of a name speaks of internal responsibility, responsibility for oneself, for one’s name, so here, probably here... with i don’t agree with you that this is discouraging, another thing is that you simultaneously touched on another topic, and the fact that everyone skates everywhere, and practically no show has any exclusivity of its own, and at one time, of course, i remember how the golden age when we were alone, and the first 12 years, in general, we were an absolute monopoly in this market, including i had one... with the guys

that they only perform in my projects, and i, in turn, i give them a lot of work, in general we all stuck to it, yes and objectively there wasn’t much other work, so everyone held on, now of course it’s impossible to keep someone, you all get into a position, everyone says: guys, i’m sorry, but we need to earn money here, here, because of this, of course, well, the audience wins , they see everywhere, but still, of course, i would like... ideally, i think, as a producer, as a director, of course, i would like for each group to still have its main headliners somewhere, well, when you go to linkom, and you realize that you are there you see this galaxy of artists, you go to the satire theater, you understand that there will be your own people there, and there is also such competition between, everyone thinks about how to make their project better, this raises everything when there is an absolute migration of everyone, everywhere, it

probably isn't. good, but this is now a given, there are really a lot of shows, we are, in general, going through all the stages that once took place about 20 years ago in the united states of america, we all know that this was followed by quite a lot of stagnation, some of it in general covered myself, i i think that in any case, we are also waiting for a moment when the interest of such a large number of ice projects, it will one way or another, well... uh, gradually fall , two or three projects will remain there, well, we continue our conversation with ilya overbukh, i it seems that there is some kind of your fault here, because if we are talking about the creation of stars, now you told about everything that is being done, this is the creation of new stars. we had 11 olympic champions in sochi, 10 years ago,

you had the only show and... where are the 11 olympic champions of sochi in your show? well impossible, but you have always held on to the champions of 2006 and for the most part it is still your corpse. don’t you think that it’s just that someone also needed to earn money, they also wanted to be the same as navka kostamarov, like domnina shabalin, like yagudin in the end, of course, but you gave work, you’re absolutely right, but here what a story, here you are standing in front of...

what are you, of course, i wish, and wanted, continue to wish, to attract here, but then you have to tell everyone, goodbye, because this is not a rubber story, max, you understand, and for i understand, i want you, this is a certain market capacity, but it still consists of it has a commercial component, there is a certain amount of money that is paid there you... determine the payment to artists, here it is it’s conditional, i don’t know, it’s 2 million rubles for a show, you have to pay everyone, you can’t say, well , now i’ll pay three, i can’t get them from anywhere, because they come from the sale of spectators’ tickets, the audience, but objectively, here they have there is already a cohort there, there are 10 champions, yes they are they came, then they don’t come anymore, the market capacity doesn’t increase, it turns out

there’s nowhere to get money from, that is, you want it. you want to get everyone, you want to have everything, but everyone has to pay for this gig, so you're faced with a dilemma, or should you say guys, thanks for everything, but now i work for those who sell more. because it is natural that the audience always wants fresh champions, they want, they love those with pleasure, but they buy tickets for those who have won just now, and this is the law, and you say, guys, that’s how it is with me, or let’s reduce all the fees there by a third for you and then, in general, this is some kind of endless story, so i’m squeezed, i’m partly between the truth of mine, here’s something in my backstage you can say with your own sits like an old fart. and the so-called fresh blood, and which brings , in general, commercial components, everyone will always have their own truth, of course, the guys here too, but objectively, given the

number, you said correctly, there are eleven champions there and in general like everything grew, with the surge in popularity, which, of course, happened largely thanks to women's singles skating, when a huge army of fans came. completely different, i still wouldn’t put on one show, two or three would still appear, here already, in general, i think that now somehow the market, it regulates itself, we all have a biological age, with which one do you sooner or later stop skating in ice shows, and aren’t you afraid that when your cast, which you love so much, who you, with whom you slept in these common ones.

when i burst into the show there, yes, that one at the moment there were theaters there, tatyana tarasova, he had already kind of left, there was then the igor bobrin theater, such programs, well, they were like that, it seemed to us that everything was already kind of moss in all this, we’ll go in now, we’ll be

fresh now, i’ll show you what kind of show there should be, it will already be dynamic, bright there with all its performances, now i understand that i’m already somewhere this flies will probably appear - one of the guys now saw in the luzhniki when i was completely small, their performance, including even then they were together with igor bobrin, and this is for me, right then , it was put off for me that i had to come to these performances, so we just all, everything, we continue, we all go one after another to

the same, in principle, russian cities, to the same the same big skating rinks, places of worship, they also come there for competitions, and how to sell the number of tickets and how many people do you think in the conditional... yaroslavl, vladivostok, perm will withstand this, no, how many times a year can he come to the ordinary show, i think that basically no more than two, i think that there is a constant rotation, probably we were a little lucky in terms of handicap, but we are talking about those notorious ten years, starting somewhere around here, as you correctly said, where on the fourteenth, somewhere from 2006 to the fourteenth year, we even get eight years, we were monopolists. we, this show, we came once a year, i rotated it a lot, no more than once a year we come to the same city so as not to overfeed, so as not to have the feeling, but during this time we formed the gender of people who i don’t can to say that they are fans there, but they

already have some kind of reflex, to come, yes, there is a tradition, yes, we are getting old, they are getting old, we are getting old together, they are ready, these ones are still moving, and these ones are still performing. you are already a little old school, such a club, yes, but it is a working one, as they say, that is, the audience along with you is older, you know, like now almost everyone who is trying, well, trying, trying. i won’t notice, because there is a stamp that you are a figure skater, even now ilya averbuk is a figure skater,

what kind of skater is there already, well, this is just for there’s even more of me now than ice, and ice has become a little bit of a hobby, aside, yes, i love it, i’m grateful, but my main ambitions are connected precisely with these projects that you mentioned, things that are very, very, very emotional, and for me they are very important, and even, probably, this is one of the options, so when a huge number of different ice projects appeared, i started looking for my exclusivity in such stories, because this is also such a drug when you are more than a thousand people , well, they are not subordinate there, well, in general they it depends on your decisions, you are a karabas-barabas, you also like to manage, i like the volume, i really love the volume, large volume events, this experience that you get off the ice with productions? huge public events helps you

to win year after year in the russian challenge, because for example, well, not only in russian it will challenge you to stage brilliant productions there, yes, that is, maybe you pick up something and then bring it into your ice work , thanks to lednikovy, i, roughly speaking, got my hands on this production, because every week you do 10 numbers there, but you yourself were a pale guy, and what do we have in common there?

in miniatures there was a play called lights of the big one , for this i felt sick in these numbers - cities, there were performances where everything began to take shape in such a big story. well, i just wish you some new big performance, because your performances are always special. thank you very much, i have plans,

we are doing such a big job right now, i’m afraid to stare, or now we are everywhere, and i want, of course, to make a big program, a long stationary in moscow, but here ’s a small hall where people come, and it seems to me that there is such a great demand for this now, they won’t be programs. but we are working in this direction, however, i think that there may be absolutely exactly what you were talking about, and rotation, and some people play for a week, others play for a week, there will be enough room for everyone, little by little, well, we will ride, i think that on this note we will end our conversation, it was really very interesting, thank you very much for i found time in my busy schedule to come visit us, i’m very glad, thank you very much, thank you, it was a free program podcast and our guest was a real figure skating guru, and not

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