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is being forced, and there is no logic in the actions of the characters either, listen, why is murdyk so cool, that is, why do we respect her at all, why do we still read her, talk about her, murdyk is very big, it seems to me, a philosopher from literature , cool, by the way, i agree, that is, she has so many meanings built into her novels, so many layers, so many subtexts in each of them, you can talk about each of them endlessly and pulls out an infinite number of meanings, plus... different forms, different tools, forms, for example, how it builds itself the narration, how it was done, it was very, well, it remains very cool and such a unique work on this is truly classical literature, in general, although it can be mistaken for a detective story, for bookkeeping, but in the end there is an intensity of passions, there is seduction, there is murder, that is, we can say that she operates quite pop.
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uses as little attribution as possible, that is, at some point we lose track of who is talking to what, such a confusion arises, which, in principle, i think, is by design, there had to be a merdyka, this is such a crazy chorus, she even uses some kind of comparison with alice in wonderland, where in the end julian writes in his afterword that my dad was such and such a character in moth in wonderland, and a carpenter , and this one was a margin, that is, there is still such a phantasmogoria there.
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i don’t even know murdoch, but i really resonate with her idea about the impossibility of finding a quiet place, because even in her novel sea-sea, yes, which received the booker prize, booker prize, yes, it also sounds there this is that the writer goes somewhere in solitude, tries to write, then someone comes again, that is, this inability to finally talk to himself from, well, a piece of paper, roughly speaking, yeah, that’s very close, that’s it this. drive away all the people, drive away believing yourself, yes, that is, this moment when it really is, well, i think it’s not just the writer, it’s all writers, i think, will understand this moment when you really want the peace of solitude and listen to your thoughts, but it’s impossible find, my husband says that you have to work, so that children crawl on you, the water is noisy there, that your clothes are boiling, but you still write, i can only go out the window with such people. that she also always wants
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to find solitude to write? yes, this is absolutely important for me, that is, i always close myself off and god forbid even a fly flies through there, that is, it is very distracting, but it turns out that you are melting, let’s say, this communication with the world into your texts, right? yes, this is complex communication, it allows you to be more sensitive, let's say, within this communication, for example, it is considered murdyk. master of psychological realism, that is, even these dialogues, all these situations, as you rightly say, they are intensified to the point of absurdity, but they do not become funny, we continue to be inside some kind of real living drama, and we believe that these are really the characters exist, they’re just crazy, yes, but can we imagine such real people, real people, completely, completely, absolutely, tell me, this is what it looks like... uh, murdok in the big picture
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literary, who came before her, who after her, you know, that’s who the writer came from, who he developed into, that is, there’s, for example, jane didian, yeah. yes, an american writer who wrote a lot in the style of some kind of memoirs, there she wrote about how she experienced the death of her husband, a year of magical thinking, she has a book, how she experienced the death of her daughter, in general she has some... then the misfortunes that she poured into the text fell and it seemed to me that there was some kind of confessional introverted motive, it looks like a murder, i would also like to say about the parallel with nabokov, specifically the black prince, because i am with lalita, yes, because... it was murdoch who also signed a letter asking for the publication of lolita in the uk, this is 10 years before the black one prince, that is, she was in every possible way for nabokov and she really, well , apparently liked lolita and a lot of
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nabokov, i think the black prince also has it, but not in style, in style - it’s completely different, but still, you know , lolita is a thirteen-year-old girl, and... after all, julin is a twenty-year-old girl, that’s still true, but i agree with you that we still see a glimpse of this lolita in these relationships, and the hero’s guilt, mainly in his inner picture, she’s like a girl, although we understand , that she also played with it and threw it away, well, in general, i think it’s a girl, because he saw how she grew up, it’s still there - it imposes, that is, if you saw a child and how the child grew up, well, it’s no longer possible to treat like... it seems to me that it’s hard for a woman to be like an adult, well, at least it’s hard, for example, i say that even if we, when my son is 18, 20, 30, 40, he will still be like a baby for me, but we’ll probably give it, so it’s not easy, listen, that’s how you like it it seems that what
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plays a role is that this bradley, he sees this girl in the costume of a black prince, i consider this the culmination of the novel. when she comes out to him in this suit with some kind of sheepish skull, and at that moment a passion awakens in him, which frightens this girl, that is, she doesn’t, and after that she already runs away from home, yes, either with her dad, either alone, well, in general, she leaves him, and then she builds a wall with him, she hardly communicates with him, almost does not communicate with him, writes a letter, yes, well, in general, we understand that she is running away from him, if she wanted to figure out this relationship, she would figure it out. but it turns out that he scares her precisely with this dark passion. do you think this plays a role? i think so, because she, too , initially saw in him more of a fatherly figure, when she suddenly
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attacks you, the fatherly figure, and this is a completely different hypostasis, a completely different role, and of course, frightening on the one hand, on the other hand, she runs away after her father comes, her father reveals the real one to her... they are just beginning this relationship, they don’t yet have, so to speak, any real ones -it’s a flat relationship, she, to prove her love, she jumps out of the car, but this is horror, this is extreme, that is , she wanted to prove to him that she loves, in the end she ran away as soon as any
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problems appeared or not, as you see it, well, just if she had stayed with him, it would have been self-destruction would have continued, including destruction, but if his passion for her speaks, it was dark. bradley, in general, this whole story was, well , such a swinging of this internal pendulum, in order to ultimately produce this text, it’s an interesting text, a black prince, like a text, well , if you look at it as art, yes, it’s interesting, in fact, bradley
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seemed more to me that he floats with the flow all the time, he carries him, he carries him, he breaks through there, he stays there, he breaks through here, he hit him... i really want to to say, he fell into this love for julian, and suddenly he also found himself there, and it’s as if he doesn’t control his movements, his life, what he does and even... when he is accused of murder, he also does nothing to control his life, he never does anything, i have a completely opposite opinion, it seems to me that bradley is a very boring person, boring, closed into a shell, when he suddenly exposes himself for this love for julian, he suddenly becomes like a lion, decisive, with my point of view, he starts running somewhere, break in, wait for her at her parents’ house in the car, almost get into her somewhere ... but that is, start doing things that we don’t expect from him at all, but on
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the other hand, he doesn’t do anything for that to justify himself, or for example, having justified himself, he could go to julian and explain himself, but he prefers to stay in prison, that is, he could somehow justify himself, i think he could, but he doesn’t even try, in general, both of these they believe that murdyk signed herself out to bradley, to arnold, to arnold. here you consider this confrontation to be key, these are its two halves, because on the one hand, she, like bradley, is an author who craves perfection, on the other hand, she was a very prolific author, she really wrote and wrote a lot of novels, these two halves, on the one hand , fertility, on the other hand, this very scourging and impossibility of achieving the ideal, uh, that’s actually what it is, say, faith, and you have some kind of approach already defined, you are still accomplished author, i know that your book is the season of poisoned fruits, it is dedicated to the life of a girl against the backdrop
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of the nineties, yeah, you have some kind of approach to the characters that was formed somehow in a difficult way, you say that the reader cannot fully understand you and should not understand, that is, you always close yourself off from him and with some images, and there is never an exact reflection of you, do you have some kind of approach to your characters? half of the character is always me... that is, me, so that, well, the author always writes as himself, and me, so that he can write something truly truthful and the present, i need to put something of my own into the character, this is true, and these are not necessarily good things, there are bad things, for which i don’t like the characters, and they tell me that it was clear that you didn’t really like this character, i say, i know, and there is precisely this trait that i don’t really like in myself, it is in this character. this year marks the 105th anniversary of the classic english literature writer iris murdoch,
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a woman who wrote from a man’s perspective, we wonder what came of it, she still writes a lot about the aging of women, she wrote the black prince when she was over 50 , in my opinion, in this novel she very much, it seems to me, reflects on the appreciation of the female body and she has this almost tangible... passion for the aging female body, these here are the sweaty feet, yes, this is rachel and priscila, this is the idea of ​​the middle age of a woman, of course the monsters are very scary, she is very scary, it’s clear that she was very afraid of this and indeed, that is, some very subtle observation, but she didn’t want to grow old very visibly , i had the feeling that it was unclear to her where to move next from this middle age, how to perceive her body, how to perceive love. and in general, how to live further, well, what’s next in life after these 50 plus, and how, when your
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body increasingly refuses you, when youth is behind, there is only some kind of darkness of captivity ahead, it seems to me that she does not find an answer to this question, no, there is no answer, in my opinion, it is a little unfair to middle-aged women, they certainly have an advantage over youth, over youth. julian’s freshness, they have an advantage, well, not everyone falls apart at 50, let’s put it bluntly, so i don’t know how it was in the seventies, but now women take great care of themselves and many fifty-year-olds look, some are better than thirty-year-olds and feel great , i agree, there is definitely some kind of feminine side of this inner fear of aging, it is very reflected in this text, i agree with you, okay, ver, thank you for the interesting conversation, thank you. "i felt very it’s interesting to talk to you specifically about the remnant, because she
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stands out with a slightly strange silhouette against the background of literature of the 20th century, that is, she seems to be a woman, but she writes from a man’s point of view, it’s popular at the same time, yes, she’s an honored author, interesting, then you can’t ignore it at all, if we talk about history and literature, it’s an english classic, a classic of english literature, absolutely, be sure to read iris murdoch, there are many other novels not only." the black prince, but vera bogdanova and i were interested in talking today specifically about the black prince, as about connection, mysticism and eroticism. how long have you and your husband lived? and i wasn’t married, we just lived together, he burned the car, pulled out his hair, knocked out his teeth, unscrewed his ears, he says: i count to three, i’m going to beat you, and my daughter runs out and somehow stops him, and what is this? they posted a photo in stockings, you need to provoke the audience so that, of course, this is very important, and you are not afraid that the guardianship authorities
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will come to you from an inadequate mother and take away your children, they came to me, i posted it. stories, how they pester me, they haven’t come to me since january, do you want a man with a tractor? i work a lot, i want him to do the same, my name is alexey, you are very petite, i am ready to pack you in my suitcase and take you to irkutsk. by the way, you are not jealous, very jealous, we will not interfere with your family in the future, diana, what’s going on, we need to get them out somehow so that you and i can have a wonderful evening, groom, well, it seems to me that i’m in in the end i will suppress him and he will do as i do. meet the second groom, come in diana, hello, my name is pavel, i have saved lives many times, i hope we will save each other this time,
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hello, nice to meet you, pavel, 36 years old, ambulance driver, lives in... proud of his golden hands, dreams of having a hair transplant operation, warns who always goes to the toilet with his phone. pavel did not kick his unfaithful lover out into the street, but offered to stay in his apartment as a housekeeper. he hopes that diana will appreciate his creative approach to breaking up. good afternoon. hello. yak you are not empty-handed, with gifts. since i'm from rostov. on the don, what else would you bring, of course, a good mood, yes, pavel, promise that you will never have a hair transplant, it suits you so well, you have a beautiful skull, no need, the future of the bride, what did he bring, nothing works out , he came with it turns out, listen, you are so enterprising or so vindictive and cruel that you left your
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ex as a housekeeper, well, how is this person in the first place. it’s not that he did anything bad, he just offended me with his actions, and what did she do, well at a certain moment i returned home and heard her talking on the phone in the toilet, and the dialogue was as follows: i miss you, i haven’t seen you for a long time, i love you so much, and i understand that they are not calling me and my phone is in pocket and at that moment she comes out, i bet she didn’t close the toilet? well, the toilet was closed at that moment, well, it happened due to the circumstances, yes at that moment it turns out i heard it all, she comes out with frightened eyes, she doesn’t know whether i heard it or didn’t hear it, or i just walked in i look at her, well, well, sort of, hello , hello, so i’m coming back from work,
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hello, hello, well, that’s all the end of the matter, but here everything is left, i actually had a case of me. i found out when i met on the site, i found out, she told me, i love you, at that time there were 28 men, some time passes, well, how could i be a reserved person and not immediately start making a scandal, this is impossible, i you say, but i just have this smell, the smell is good, good luck, bon appetit, but i didn’t start scandals, her friend is coming, here they’re sitting there... drinking champagne, gossiping, it turns out, that is, she didn’t understand that you heard all this, that’s the whole point, that she didn’t know, didn’t know if i heard it all, or i just walked in, silently calmly, well, hello, hello everyone, it turns out that they are sitting with a friend, giggling, i’m having dinner, at a certain
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moment i already have a boiling point, that’s it, i’m already at... being next to myself, i was wildly unpleasant, that is, that they exchanged me for someone, that is, she was like, yes, you don’t explain to me, i don’t even understand how you do this everything why he and his friend didn’t fly is simple. with the speed of the wind, well, uh, firstly, with this person, how would i choose her, here i am yours, let's be honest, tell me honestly, you like
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to suffer, well, just be honest, well , here's a little bit of blood for you, when you suffer a little , well, honestly, i don’t really care about it, no, but it’s like a new feeling, it seems like i want to kick her out, and i want to drag her into bed to torture her, tell me what you had? the bug is in your panties, it’s washing you, and you’re up there looking and thinking, that’s why you didn’t let go, look, maybe it was, i might
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have changed my mind, left her, but where did she live with him, she lived in my house, do you have so many floors, or what? three, well, on the first floor, i personally cannot forgive betrayal , i think that this is unacceptable by a person either. with a person, well, come honestly and say right away the house , well, this is low, as it turned out, we know each other with this rival, we, like motorcyclists, know each other, and he came to pick her up, there was such a show, no, not yet didn't come to pick me up until we stopped at that she was washing the floors, that we were watching , i was like a real man, that is , i harbored a grudge, but i left her in the house, because well, she had nowhere to go, right? she lived in the house for a month, but at that moment when she simply folded her paws and stopped doing anything around the house, that is, taking care of the house, that is, if
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you live in this house, i don’t ask anything from you, at least clean up order and it ’s elementary for me, well, at least have something to eat ready, she folded her paws, that’s where the whole thing ended, so you don’t love her anymore , my beloved woman, but it’s time for us leave, since you don’t want anything in this house. and i need to transfer someone else to this house, she called this guy ske, and he comes like this on a motorcycle, the situation turned out to be such that at work, well, we work for an ambulance, so you spend a day in the car with a person , and well, i kind of poured out my soul to my colleague, she says, well, let’s take a rest, he talks very strangely about his personal life, for example, i don’t understand why he kept it in his apartment in the house.
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you do the same nasty thing in response to a person, as they did to me, i understood that this happened more than once, you took revenge on her, well, yes, she can... about the panties on the chandelier, i have a huge wardrobe, you can throw the whole chandelier, that’s your hobby, i also really love dogs. i love cats, i have two dogs, two cats, and you will go to her there in karilia, and i propose, since i have much more property, that she
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move in with me, look, diana has two children, diana is breaking the law, diana is imprisoned on her phone all the time, she wants to become a blogger and so on, if all this suits you, then our editors are already collecting your wedding dowry right now, they are buying you tickets, a honeymoon and a gift. in sochi by the sea for 3 weeks, great, i agree, that is, you are happy with everything in diana, yes, yes, right from here, i’m ready to go right away, i have a question, and the children, and i think the guardianship authorities will take them away, well, the patient, admits, will show off her charms, no, the charms are there, by the way, with such a figure why not show off, i have something else, this desire, to receive adrenaline from a man, she doesn’t like a calm man, who... took care of her children, let's start with the fact that i am a motorcyclist, i am a hunter, i am a fisherman, i have a lot of hobbies, you will show me a surprise, with pleasure, yanochka, will you help me, well,
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let's see what he is? no, competitors, very strong competitors, oh, there once lived a flower, fragrant, beautiful, did not know sadness and rejoiced in the sun, but an evil satin plucked it and the flower withered, one day a young... single bee flew past in the prime of life, fell in love into a flower without memory, the bees decided, at all costs, to save the flower, he was ready to do anything to to revive her beloved, she was ready to give her worthless bee life for a flower, it’s better than dogs, and somehow she’s apparently tired of dogs already, when she wants to be a flower.
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i watered the flower with filtered rainwater, and, of course, at room temperature, and at the same time cast bee spells, buzz-zhu-zhu, zhu-zhu-zhu, i’m buzzing and i’ll wake you up, i’ll offer you to become my bride, i’ll ring you around you and enchant you. the bees buzzed over the flower day and night, the main thing was that the bees did not become a drone, in the end, they stroked the petals, blew away the dust particles and hugged its fragile stem, fragile stem, the bees had already lost hope, but one day the flower woke up and began
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to grow. bloom, smell and reach for the sun. the flower saw her savior and fell in love with him too. the bees spread their wings and began pollinating, with their characteristic workaholism, class, well done. and soon, due to repeated pollination, the bee-flowering family established a honey production business. with the money raised , the bee-flowering family went on their honeymoon. let's wish them a good trip and...
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it was the best thing i’ve seen lately, thank you very much, they look great in these costumes, they looked very organic, i really enjoyed it, i got a lot out of it. well, i liked the surprise, it seems like my fiancé will allow me everything, but i need to be educated, and why should i educate you, stop somewhere, you’ll say that he’s raising you, you’re an adult , just ask tell yourself, i’m an adult, i’m in my
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40s, you’re an adult, mine, because it’s not mine, because, but you don’t know which one, in which one you haven’t learned this role now? maybe the third? maybe get acquainted.
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wow, where is she, you are such a wonderful girl, i already know almost all the secrets of family happiness. if we have mutual sympathy, i can tell show, hello, hello, what a handsome guy, 50 or something, raspberry, yes, or someone from the nineties, konstantin, 48 years old, broker on the stock exchange, rents out commercial real estate in nevinomysk , plays board games, feeds... male cats and casts gold coins, warns that he is a slob with plyushkin syndrome, he admits that he needs kicks to speed up the pace of life, shortly before parting with his beloved , a whole package of contraceptives disappeared from konstantin’s house, and later
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other valuable things, he hopes that diana will steal his heart, and not his property. hello, hello, how bright you are about gold, it was a joke, of course. yes, what a pity, the most interesting thing was about gold, he also apparently receives money from salaries, he also apparently rents out some premises, it’s all a joke, yes, well, the rest, well, plyushkin, figushkin, well, you brought flowers, plyushkin, not plyushkin, but flowers, yes, i think that it’s always on the first date with a woman, you know, but outwardly you are still a gopsek, not plyushkin, well, it’s the same thing.
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older, well, tell me, about neatness, it seemed a little to you, maybe i didn’t go check your apartment, but come on, where is the dust, cobwebs, no, neatness is probably not about me, but you have i have such a problem that this is perfectionism, i have to do everything perfectly, but at the same time i may have creepy, well, let’s call it creative disorder, but tell me, shouldn’t it be violated, violated,
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everything else that we will talk about later, if you have your own order, which your wife should not violate, for example, you have a desk, yes, and you know where each of your pieces of paper is, you must warn her so that she never puts things in order, that’s why i believe that every person should have their own space, yes, but there is, for example, a space called toilet, restroom and kitchen, where everything should be a clean, well, naturally, common place, that is , everything is in order there, the dishes are not glued to the table, yes, there is no need to tear off the cups like that, i am very respectful of other people’s work, that is, even if we have already put things in order together, naturally, i will already be forced to support him, i can’t understand whether he
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will be there over her somehow holding a command there to say, but he himself needs such a woman who will constantly take him in turns and will be no, i it seems he is looking for a slave who will bring him, who keeps you in order? i think so, no one, well , i mean, you, i live alone, well, you sweep this there, yes, sometimes, medelsonic, please tell me, for our viewers, especially, what kind of plyushkin syndrome is this, yes, this generally stands out as a separate mania, this is called silagomania, in general it usually manifests itself after 60 years, when people begin to save everything, save up under the pretext that it will be useful or prepared. a gift or reminds of the past, but in general this is a sign of the development of dementia, you need to think about it until you can, but for me it’s the other way around, since childhood i ’ve been giving everything away, here i am now, i have to be light with one suitcase, if anything, this is
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a sign that you’ll keep yours.

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