take some, well, some seemingly nonsense, but which takes up a huge amount of your daily life, takes up a huge amount of time, well, you don’t want to just sit and watch and think, lord, can i ask you, marina, you now, when you give your speech, could you take credit for what you are talking about, this means i position, that is, i am missing something not from the position you, yes, as we are used to, generally accepted, yes. form of speech through you, right when i starts, maybe it will become a little different, let's explain to our viewers, why this is important, and to marina , too, why we need to speak, translate this reflection, speak directly with our mouths, this is me, i position always helps us take ownership of our lives, in fact, because if we speak in the third person, or we are talking about someone, this is some kind of disconnection from ourselves, which naturally does not cause us an emotional reaction, which gives us the very decision

that we need to make or that very insight, yes, that is, it’s as if we don’t apply it, here i am for someone, maybe be, even as an intelligent , well-mannered person, i sympathize, i empathize, but this is not with me, this is probably a short version of the answer to the question: what will happen to your life if everything remains the same, only from my position, i will waste it, firstly, it’s mediocre, yes, everything will pass by and... absolutely, well , in fact, i will feel 100% unhappy and 100% i will think about what the hell, why? well, just sometimes, well, somehow if you remember, there were literally events there, you spent 3 years in a row on something i spent, i spent on something, that now i’m sitting here thinking, why, i don’t want social networks, if now i understand that i’m in about the same story as 3 years ago. why do i need this, if

in the end i don’t know how long later, but i’ll look back and say, well, how was it possible, when the weather was so beautiful, to scroll through the feed until 2:00 on a day off, if i could go out for a walk, you have everything is fine, please go and have fun and all that, but still i’m like, well, yes, now, now still a little bit, this one just a little more, a little more, and i just don’t want to. so that later the moment would come when this was already a little over, and i was left like this, in this position, uh-huh, and what’s worse than missing out is actually your own realization, oh, how so, but it’s happening right now, with morning to evening, realization, i wake up in the morning, pick up the phone, and think, i must not miss something, but at the same time i’m afraid of the same thing... at the end of my life, i

heard correctly, perhaps, but there is a nuance, but when well this is my profession, yes, that is, i communicate with people and promote something through social networks for them, that is, either businesses or personal brands and so on, when i do this for them, i’m completely invested it’s with great pleasure that i track for them exactly all those trends that i’m so afraid of missing. but there is a moment that i have such a desire to do this with myself, and with mine, just to realize myself through these very social networks and the manifestation of some kind of through them, but myself, every time i want something, so i take it and say: that’s it, from today i won’t just scroll the feed, i ’ll work on creating content, that is, i give it, and don’t consume it, like i just tell myself this, i... everything is happening

, i, oh, god hurts a little, now we’ll look through it, it will pass, oh, i’m still there, that is, it’s like, i don’t know how it is explain, in fact, but i, as soon as i need to make exactly the decision that i want, it’s really very strong, but some kind of thing happens such a stupor that i turn here, like, well , now, time flies by very quickly, that is , i don’t even notice that an hour and a half or two hours can pass there, let’s ask olga about this, from the point of view of... ology or neurophysiology, what is happening to marina, and to each of us, who are stuck on the series, on small videos, on some tape, because it feels like we are not completely in control of this situation, well, we are in control or something, consciously, as if if some deep biochemical processes command us in this moment, thank you for the question, it basically contains the answer, of course, this is a very

beautiful, tasty story with defamine. dopamine is a neurotransmitter and hormone that actually helps us feel pleasure and pleasure. helps reach the next neurotransmitter hormone serotann, the joy hormone. dopamine was once given to us evolutionarily so that we could focus, gather our body, show some kind of reaction and get ourselves, well, at least food or water, and get pleasure, remember, when you are thirsty, when you drink, what are you, what are you doing at this moment, yes, oh, how good, this is how good, this is just yourself.

we sit in some feeds for 7 days in a row, we can’t remember what was there 5 days ago, we can’t, but at the same time we constantly maintain a certain level of joy in ourselves due to this neurotransmitter story, due to defamine, and naturally , receiving positive reinforcement, we need even more more more, because this is called tolerance, when we are definitely...

no matter how much marina talks to herself, that her life is passing by, that half a day has flown by instead of a park or an exhibition, all the same , this shameful pleasure not only remains, it probably gives more and more of that same dopamine release that it only tells us about. of course, this is actually quite often a compulsive behavior, an obsessive idea to do something, for example, something tasty. eat, yes, or get on social networks, but when it comes to eating behavior, i have some kind of real fear, i’ll get up, for example, of some kind size, i won’t be able to wear some beautiful things and so on, or i’ll get diabetes, for example, yes, there you can spin it very well, logically from our

examples, which we clearly see, well , that is, you mean, that a person understands what it is leading to, so he can, he can stop. because he understands where this leads, yes, but that is, more than that, what can be touched, of course, naturally, well, that is, i have a neighbor valentina petrovna, she ate a lot, this happened to her, here is a real example, what will happen to us if we don’t get out of social networks, or an alcoholic is afraid and drink himself to death, for example, he’s afraid, yes, or freeze there in the snow, in a snowdrift, well, at least some horror stories, but here there are no horror stories, yes, even this moment turns out to be a waste of life, you still can’t do it. well , somewhere viktor frankl is crying, yes, who, now he would be very useful in this search for the meaning of life, yes, but in general this worries you very speculatively, yeah, but here, i have already noticed, in this conversation absolutely, but there is a certain point that

i would like to talk about, i want to present not clients, but myself, that’s right, i heard, yeah, that is, it’s about self-presentation, yeah, why do we need to present ourselves in a modern way , what? and this will be an illusion of recognition, i am concerned specifically with my own manifestation in society, but i have some of my own goals, ambitions, and this has been since childhood, when likes, comments and everything else are still well in my memory wasn't, now, when i understand why i need to do certain actions... specifically for myself, and not for the client, i just lack regularity, consistency, constancy, in

general, the point is how to differentiate the moment, i ’m confused about , where is this lack of love, and where we look only with likes, and where exactly is the moment of this realization, how you see it and how you want to see yourself there conditionally after some years, is this also connected with some kind of dislike, or maybe? there is some kind of practicality, so you want this ambition, but there is still something with likes, i just don’t know how to explain it, depending on what the ambition is built on, what we ultimately want to achieve, but i have directly written goals and objectives so on, well, this is a fundamental point for me, i’m not talking about what i can’t achieve yet, it’s true, okay, maybe let’s talk now about... are there any ideas, there are some tips, as a person

with completely different, so to speak, nature addiction, that is, someone can really be just like our heroine from childhood, they are looking for this recognition, the applause of the stage, yes, someone is simply filling the void, someone is fenced off from something, but maybe there are some... then here are universal tips, we will try to derive some kind of formula. help for a person who, like our heroine, realized that something is going wrong, yes, something is too, i’m too attached to this pastime, yeah, what could it be, any addiction is an altered consciousness, this means that i am not in this moment, not in reality, and i have left reality, and the first, most basic technique is to return to awareness, this means: asking yourself the question, what am i doing right now, what am i doing , uh-huh, i'm not

washing the dishes again, this is what we used to tell ourselves in terms of not what i'm not doing, but what am i doing at this moment, i'm looking at social networks, uh-huh, what am i doing, what am i doing, and this question can be repeated so many times when we do not come to a final understanding of what i am doing now, it's very interesting. to such and such an address,

the final one, or we get into a taxi, we say, take me, please, it would be easier to build a route, of course, like a gps point that we set, if we don’t tell the taxi driver the address, he will drive us around in circles, making money from us, yeah, in the end we’ll just lose a lot of time, and... we won’t get to the final point, because we didn’t name it, so if we know exactly our gps point, we can build a route there how far away should this point be, this point should be, today, today i generally, for example, look at social networks not for work, there’s no more than an hour there, or this is some point in 10 years, but after 10 years i’m so successful there and so on, i won when - i’ve been addicted for a long time, this is the scale, what an approximation, i suggest going back. that is, to put a global point, yes, the most, most important, everything that i

want to get in that day, directly take it for myself, ideal you mean, my ideal, yes, my ideal day, which i i want to get there, say, in 50 years, go back, go back, and what do i want to get 10 years ago, and 10 years ago, and 10 more, so five times, yeah, yes, what do i want, where am i i want to be on what route? i want to stand at an intermediate point, then , for example, we took 50 years, yes, we rebuilt it several decades ago, then for each. years we build even smaller steps, yes, that is, for each year, what do i want to come to here, what do i want to come to here, and then we get to the day, and what do i want to do to come to this point? already today, and what do i want, i want to wake up in the morning and be without

a phone for exactly 60 minutes, yeah, and if without a phone, then what do i want? there is an answer, because i once practiced these morning rituals, it brought me great pleasure and resources, and i really left the house with the idea that i’m about to move mountains, the world and well, again , for this, it’s always there were fifteen-minute meditations, but when exactly... i set out to practice these morning rituals, to devote the morning hours specifically to myself, i did screen recording, i woke up, my phone is in sleep mode, i didn’t put it away until this happened, that is, in fact, i turned on the video screen recording, meditation is playing, that is, for these 15 minutes it’s just me, this voice and my well, space, then beauty rituals

are some very basic exercises, some very basic care, well... an endless stream of videos, yes, and there is a successful, collected, conscious marina, who woke up, and this answer, by the way, is today, well, for now, excuse the backstory, but this is important, in general, while i was on the way to the train back in st. petersburg, i talked to my dad, and i explained the situation to him, that i’m going to

shoot now, i’m very interested in it and i want to, but i need to temporarily skip work for 2 days. and i was so worried, this is how it is, how can i afford it, although in general everyone treats it adequately, and i explain it to him, i say, and i really scolded myself for this and was so anxious, and then as if some other part of me took my hand, said: calm down, and i calmed down, and he told me, well, as much as possible, we’ve already talked about this 100 times, you you can allow yourself to do whatever you want, well, something like that, what a cool dad you have, yes, but we really had a situation there , again connected with this...

this is the first time i’ve had such a great experience, in fact psyche, when she is preparing for a meeting with a psychologist, she is already beginning to come to certain insights, a solution, and an explanation, this is a psyche podcast, please watch all episodes of our podcast on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru, i really liked what you suggested to marina , i would like

you and i, marin, to try this bring it to some maximum. suggested imagining yourself at a certain peak point, when you have reached some kind of maximum happiness, or some kind of success, or some kind of mission has been completed, and you can fantasize with us right now and imagine what it’s like will be, for example, in 30 years, let me speak for you, well, for example, you have become a very successful producer, you were invited to speak in front of a huge, huge audience of students, there are leaders, you go out in front of them, they begin to applaud you when you you haven’t even opened your mouth yet, there are huge screens behind you. with your photographs, with your presentation, i ’m about to faint, this is what i want, but not a producer, yes, and you say,

you know, friends, 30 years ago, about the same morning i made a decision for myself, that i won’t look at the phone screen for more than 10 minutes an hour, that’s how my success story began, i feel freedom, i don’t know how... than just what comes to mind, i feel freedom, i feel some kind of moment so, phew, uh-huh, hurray, i did it, i got there, yes, well , finally, wow, and this is not in that sense , finally i’ve been getting to this for so long, just like that, by the way, as if you they even helped me find the answer to the question, why do i need what we started, where did we start, and why do i need to get rid of socially. networks, uh-huh, it’s as if i have the answers right now, i really like him, but can you describe exactly what you ’re standing on this stage, i practically even saw the color of your clothes, i really want

to check, and what do you know? there will be fashion in 30 years, or what? no, i can imagine, just based on the expectations that are broadcast on social networks, uh-huh, uh-huh, what kind of scene are you there, so, well, first of all, i have a healthy weight, and super, yes, i have a different weight the color... of my hair, it’s light and kind of closer to mine, well, not exactly mine, but closer there, so well, my hair is still long, as for the clothes, by the way, i can’t imagine exactly the style and so on, it’s definitely not red, yeah, that’s for sure, but what are you, i look expensive, uh taste, without any conventional blackness, and i feel, i feel very confident. very free, i want, i want, well, actually, i want to enter into a dialogue with people who are there now and i want to share something useful, but i can’t

say what, but i just want to enter into a dialogue with them into dialogue and so that it would be useful to them, i am proud of myself, i am grateful to myself for the fact that 30 years ago, yes, i am grateful to myself for the fact that 30 years ago... i was able to pull myself together, well, how can i say that i'm in control of my life now, i'm in control their presence in the social field, in social networks, and even right next to me, now today we somehow got to the bottom of it, that i now have right next to me the food problem, how to correctly say food, eating disorder and social networks, they right here, not even in parallel, they just go together like this, because...

your opinion, what do our colleagues advise us on how we can help ourselves reduce our dependence on social networks? first, try to turn off notifications, well,

when you know, such announcements come that a new message has arrived, some channel has been updated, then you need to set a time limit for yourself and strive for it, maybe not right away. it will work, but nevertheless, a cruel measure, marin, delete the social networking application, that is, only on the computer, when i got to the computer and sat down, i understand that it hurts, but nevertheless, advice that i don’t know how to implement, it sounds like this: keep yourself busy, that is, keep yourself busy with something else, grow flowers, chat on the phone, but i don’t know, vacuum, probably something like that? come up with your own reward system, for example, an exhibition or a ticket to a concert or a new dress, well, something like that, i think that

each person can have... their own reward system, you just need to think about it, a few more advice, never carry a mobile phone, do not take the bathroom with you to the toilet, this is what psychologists advise, they draw conclusions, apparently based on some generally studied situations, find someone who will support you like this same partner, friend, girlfriend, sister, brother. husband, mother, who suffers from the same addiction, because together, three of us will do it easier, every week carry out such self-reflection as you managed, and in order to understand, even if just a little, but i have progressed, how do you like this advice, well , excellent advice, you need to start with this, yes, this is all that you need to integrate into your life in order to come to the very scene that we

are talking about right now. they said so beautifully, well, will your life change tomorrow morning? well, i i wanted to say, i hope, but i just have a feeling that i’m sure that yes, oh, but is it possible without i have a feeling, just shorten the route? i am sure that it will change, because now i have come to the realization that yes, it turns out that it is not difficult, and the most important thing and finally we, well, i felt it out in the first place, but why do i need it? this is necessary, yes, that’s where we started our actual dialogue with you, with what and why, is it necessary at all, i think it’s necessary. i have one question, i think it will be very helpful appropriate. marin, how could you answer, what will i do right today to confirm my intentions? i answered this question to myself just a few minutes ago, and i was already thinking that i

was going home today, uh. to the hotel, and usually when i go, i do this, and today i realized that i have my big bag that i arrived with, i ’ll put my phone number in there, get into a taxi and go like this, great plan, friends, and i wish for all of us, let's at least start with this, that today, when or tomorrow morning, when we we’ll be getting ready for work or maybe during the day, well, in general, on the next trip we ’ll hide the phone at the very bottom of our bags. or in the most secret pocket of a jacket or jacket, let’s try to live for a few minutes first of withdrawal, and then i am confidently enjoying the fact that life is not passing by, definitely not on the phone. it was a psychic podcast.

hello, this is a podcast of witnesses from einstein and its host is film historians natalya ryabchikova, stanislav didinsky. in our podcast we talk about who created and how famous, beloved, little-known, half-forgotten or completely unknown, completely forgotten soviet films, about how to watch them now, how to find new meanings in them and how to get even more pleasure from them. today our podcast is dedicated to the centenary of one of the most famous women,

a melodrama with canonical images of efremov, who sits in a taxi, it’s raining around him, he thoughtfully looks into the camera or somewhere to the side, well, a carnival, yes, which i personally love much less, but in this sense it really is a big hit of the soviet rentals, and some unknown masterpieces, like eudacia, unknown, perhaps now to the viewer, at one time quite well known to ourselves, we will try to talk. in addition to this moment of spring, because we have a separate podcast about this series, and i want to talk, in fact , about those paintings for the big and small screen that 17 surround, frame, so to speak, before talking poliotically, i must quote from text by columnist alla gerber, who at one time did a whole series of interviews with filmmakers in including tatyana lioznova, and the text about lioznova begins with a phrase

that... might have caused fierce debate among those who like to create feminines, suffixes, and add masculine words to words, so the girl said. there were already female film directors, and of course, they played in a male field and could not have called themselves anything else, they deserved this title of director, in the twenties quite a lot of women directed, we periodically mention them, this is olga preobrazhenskaya , olga rakhmanova, margarita

barskaya, margarita barskaya, who, starting in the twenties and continuing in the thirties, are, of course, great documentarians, like from a firm, that is, we actually have a whole tradition. directors of women, this is not that surprising, but nevertheless, each time it is , in general, a work of overcoming, at least for liozny it was such a work and there was sofia milkina, who always worked with her husband mikhail schweitzer, as a second director, or vera stroeva, who was often with her husband’s director, grigory roshal, although she had independent work, but in this sense lioznava is different, because not only did she not work with her husband on the site, but, in principle, she was on her own all her life, and this was even... they reproached her, yes, in some years the gorky studios hinted that maybe, somehow, it was necessary, maybe, to be more like a standard soviet woman with a job, and also a family, and a career,

yes, a career, a family, but her family was this mother, whom she took to filming, whom she always brought to artistic councils i consulted with her about how the film looked, and this was her test viewer, this is quite interesting, rarely really in soviet... well, i must say that lioznova’s parents did not prepare her for a film career at all and in general there was not even a hint of this, on the contrary, they said that it was necessary to choose a reliable profession that would feed her all her life, and indeed at first such a profession, she had an attempt, she did not study for so long, a semester, it seems, yes, yes, it seems, a semester, in aviation in aviation school, yes, yes, yes, then it will delve a little into her biography, filmography, even so, the biography of the director and filmography, at some point she decided that her path was... cinema, well, she remembered it as if it was some kind of accident that one of her friends was going to enroll, she also went, these are the forties, this feeling that somehow she could redo her life, start anew, although it was just beginning for her, but her job, studying at vgik,

was actually not so simple, because at some point she was expelled from there, compatibility, well, at the very beginning this happens, when students start studying and even after the first semester the master tells them we won’t go. well, this happened with rezanov when he studied with kozents, for example, indeed, they generally told him that he was too young, but leoznova, according to her , decided that we would fight, that she would not leave it like that, she rode the tram across the whole moscow, took the laundry to the laundry and says that she wrote down, sketched, as if in the words of the types she met, and on this tram, and then collected those who were expelled along with her , based on her notes, staged such skits, they were all accepted back, she said that this was such a first lesson for her, that the director is the person on whom others depend, this is the feeling , she always carried this responsibility with her, but at the beginning of lioznova’s career, it seems that everything depended not on herself, but on her master, sergei gerasimov, to whom, in general, she owes the beginning of this career,

the all-russian state institute cinematography in geek, all-union, sorry, of course, all-union, which today could bear with equal success the name of sergei izenshtein and... kuleshov, however, was later named after gerasimov, precisely thanks to the efforts and merits of his students, because he created one of the most strong directing-acting workshops, such an amazing hybrid, all the students, in fact, this tradition existed both before this, being in gek, and after, he was involved in working on his such, well, magnum opus before the film the young guard, yes, still in this this never happened on a grand scale, it seems to me not even once. after that, the really young guard is something that began as a performance, something that began as some individual episodes was played as a performance, not only in ovgek, and then it was already transferred to the screen, this is really the work of an entire creative team, and there lioznova played, in general,

not the last role, because she also staged, separately from this plan, a sketch with the dance of carmen, where they actually saw the future performer lyubka shevtsova, and this dance... the film, that is , the fragment directed by her was included by gerasimov in the film, unlike his colleagues, nona mordyukova, vyacheslav tikhonov, who played large roles there, she, of course, remained behind the scenes... she was an assistant, then , the end of vgik, the end of the forties, actors, well , somehow in theaters, some are being filmed in some films, they send her, yes, they distribute the gorky studio, which was located right next to vgik, in the next wing, in fact then literally then, yes, even in the next wing of one building, and then she is immediately fired from there, because there is a struggle with cosmopolitans, and for her it’s as if at the very beginning of her career uh... ends, and here at some point

sergei gerasimov, who worked for the same studio, he takes her with him to china, to make a picture, liberated china, he puts on a play with her in the theater, again chinese, a gray-haired girl, so little by little, little by little the beginning of the fifties comes, the studio takes her back, but nevertheless it passes about 10 years from the date of graduation until she shoots her... first full-length film as an independent director. well, let’s just remind you that in one of the goth eras of the small-picture era, the so-called late forties, early fifties, only nine films were made, it seems that this was in the fifty-first year, well, where can one find work for so many directors, and then 10 years later , the number of films produced in the soviet union reached a hundred or even more, and it increased manifold, of course, but even here the masters helped her, besides gerasimov, this is actually his co- teacher, wife, actress tamara makarova, they

had a common workshop, but this very director-acting workshop, and it was always their common workshop, and makarova, she gave birth to such a plot, or rather, she was told about an english pilot who, during the great patriotic war, was shot down over the occupied territories of the soviet union, he ends up in a village where a wounded man is nursed by a soviet teacher, naturally in the film she is played by tamara makarova, based on this... they use real englishmen, real germans who play englishmen and

germans, although the main role of an englishman is played by andrei popov, but nevertheless , quite a lot of journalists, englishmen, americans who were in moscow at that moment, even sometimes someone by chance, play there not for long, but she placed them all in this english scene, and a very funny character appears there, the sister of the main character’s wife, who appears to us in the caption text, like the director of a cinematheque, who... watched so many films that she combined she gives herself at the same time sentimentality and ironic generalizations, and then she gives such a speech about how many different films she watches, and some fashionable swedish films with violence, and neorealism with its kind of unwashed underwear, and some boring soviet films, here and then she especially didn’t like some film, this is what we would now call metacinema, a cinema that suddenly remembers that... there is a cinema, not that it is typical for religious, but

it seems to me that then these numerous jokes about stirlitz, they are also from there, that we play a little bit in a movie, that’s what you said, you mentioned a voice-over that says something, but this will later become some kind of defining feature, maybe even one of the important features of films is the new voice-over of some person who tells , what is happening in evdakia in her film will be this, it will of course be in seventeen updates... where kapelyan’s voice, as it were , will eventually become that same anecdotal trope that is used in any anecdote in order to, well, to create this technique of witticism, and the shterlet was walking along the corridor and then we would find out what happened, this is some kind of characteristic feature from lioznova’s films, despite the fact that in general he refuses voice-over quite actively, it is believed that this is even a little bit bad form, but lyuznova still does it , wins and ultimately achieves success.

come on, and i’ll take it too, won’t you, it will be clear there, why do you need 100 rubles, and she’s so innocent, i looked at her, give me 200 rubles. but not that. give me your son, listen, you are his threw it, threw it, don’t lie, you stole it, i’ll show it at the trial, i have a metric, i’ll bring witnesses that it’s mine, you use other people’s children so you don’t have to work, sit near the stove, but our proletarian court, it

sees the truth, well what’s unusual here is, firstly, the character, yes, this drunken lady who calls for justice and a proletarian court. daily words for the country. levozno said that it was difficult for her to choose subjects for her paintings, she always approached this very responsibly, always remembered what she was given quite significant funds to make a movie, she cannot make it just for her own pleasure, that many people should watch it, that it should be interesting to many, that it should resonate

with many, and at the same time she said that in that or to another degree, all her paintings have autobiographical elements. here , maybe her father really died in 1941, she grew up with her mother, it was difficult to grow up, this is the history of the family according to the scenario of the new faith, it was probably this too close, yes, but nevertheless, then in the sixties the plots were still different, or rather they only appeared in the otepelnoye cinema, new, relevant plot-social themes, so vera panova is one of the main suppliers of such themes, because then in a few years yulia fait will shoot on... in the film there is a very scandalous film between a boy and a girl about a romance between two teenagers, still recent schoolchildren, students, in a holiday romance, he is not a student yet, she is not a student at all, but they are really teenagers, they seem to be in fact teenagers and this absolutely scandalous work, well, nevertheless , the plot of ponova’s faith, which, it is believed,

yuli fait distorted, and this, in general, largely left an end to his career, but the story really was absolutely out of the ordinary, here in general.. we see the same thing, a film that became a hit at the soviet box office, it was terribly popular with viewers, one of the leaders at the box office, we count this precisely by the number of viewers, there were 34 million of them in the first year alone, in fact, not counting this. the hayloft of spring, this is probably its most a successful film, there were two more films that also go in line with the thaw cinema, the story with the aviation institute comes back, because if in the memory of the heart the main character was a pilot, but we just started, actually from the cockpit of the plane, and then they only told us that he was a pilot, pilot, pilot, pilot, then leznov became interested in the topic of creating the first jet fighter in the soviet union during the war, began to develop this topic, shot a film, which was called just before release, they conquer the sky, the whole studio

came up with this name, initially it was something like the story of one aircraft, that is , based on real events, where real engineers were consultants. and the aircraft designers and pilots who actually tested all these aircraft. mark gallay, the famous pilot, was one of the prototypes, who, by the way, didn’t like this idea, why now they will make a movie about us and real people with our names, where something will be true, something will be fiction, and he protested very much against so that on the screen the pilots would have real names, so they are all changed there, somehow the whole idea went into this, but it took some time and some persuasion, well, in general, the figure of a pilot is... just like the figure of an astronaut, in these years have a well-known halo; let us remember that a little later larisa shipitko made the film “wings”. on the same material on a completely different topic, a completely different topic, but the topic itself, flight, yes, astronautics, stars.