maybe it was not so much that they felt certain religious feelings, but first of all the greatness of the byzantine empire, which certainly sought to somehow, so to speak , extend its power over these peoples, but here we see something else that was impressive, not the power of the empire, not her... so to speak, greatness, strength,

that’s it, our seemingly truly still half-wild ancestors, they felt this touch of god, here we recall the text of the book of acts, where the holy spirit descended, as we know, but in one of the episodes not yet baptized, pagans, romans, here is something similar here, yes, here is some kind of touch, the grace of god on the hearts of these people, it happened, so... seemingly uneducated people, they felt that main meaning of worship, which is, in fact, was revealed to them in the hagia sophia, well, they felt it and memory, yes, cultural memory, records it, yes, like such a central argument, repeats itself, yes, beauty, beauty, then we can really get to this there are already pseudo-quotes or quotes from dostoevsky, we can draw a straight line, yes, that is, for russian culture this becomes the core, i don’t know of any other european culture. where is the category of beauty, perhaps

simply due to lack of education, i don’t know, but for it to be explicitly present like this, as such a formative culture, yes, and at the same time we understand that russia, for many centuries, was not primarily a theological state and the russian church was not the center of theological thought, but the beautiful one is actually beginning to take shape first from the history of russia as a christian state, here... sophia of kiev, sophia of novgorod, to the temples of pokravan nerl, to the temple of moscow russia, to that medieval russian icon painting, which becomes both the successor and development of the byzantine tradition, this is the perception of beauty church, there is indeed some tangible contribution of the russian church to the treasury of the ecumenical. orthodoxy, on the other hand, the gift

of universal orthodoxy to the russian church, well, speaking of the baptisms of russia, of course, one cannot help but talk about the personality of prince vladimir, understanding that, so to speak, a lot of water has passed under the bridge and a lot is probably difficult to verify, but here, yaslav igorevich, here, that we can very clearly know about the prince, well , naturally, in the context of that topic, by the way, say , this monument, yes, which we now have - next to red square. yes, next to the kremlin, what vladimir accomplished is indeed a real feat, a feat of first of all overcoming himself, yes, and it is no coincidence that if we again turn to the tale of bygone years, there the author puts the following words into vladimir’s mouth, that he lived like an animal, and thanks god for enlightening him, transforming him, because really vladimir, who, as we see, again on the pages of the chronicle in his young years... but we can say that,

hypothetically, that he there, when he became a prince and if he had died there a few years later, then in the memory of the people he would simply have remained as a very cruel ruler, even by the standards of that cruel time and the founder of a regular pagan cult, moreover, judging by the text of the chronicle again well, as the chronicler says.

the russian cult led by perun, he, in fact, does not overthrow him, and he brings russia to the light, the gospel to christianity, this of course, in general, is... a feat and a miracle, and to the end, probably, this is for us will never be clear, these are some truly incomprehensible destinies of god, but they are accomplished through specific people, and it seems to me, on the other hand, it is natural in some way that it was vladimir who became the baptizer of russia by his character, maximalist, yes, who in paganism i frantically surrendered myself, so to speak, to this false religion, yes, in christianity, he, in general, remained somewhere equal... to himself as a very integral, very maximalist execution, he wanted to cancel, but the bishop says, but he accepted the gospel so wholeheartedly that he does not understand how it is possible in this case the death penalty, this is very sincere, it is very

deep, yes, very, maybe in some ways childish, but a very sincerely accepted christian faith, in this we see, in general, just... the moment, it seems to me , a very reliable chronicle narrative, because often, especially in the soviet years everything came down to some kind of political construction, to the fact that yes, vladimir introduces, so to speak, russia into the concert of european powers, for this you need to accept christianity, at the same time we see such a deeply personal understanding of christianity in this commandment not to kill , including you how he found me, listen, well, i’m a cop, i didn’t find people like that, he can... ruin it, he won’t have time, you’re an investigator for especially important cases, for what purpose did special missions come to us, you came back, well done, but you have to understand what you have with this cop it’s not good to be, it’s dangerous that i received the money,

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is no longer with us, that’s what he experienced at that moment, that evening, only he knows, it’s a big responsibility to tell your child that his mother passed away. how did my only daughter survive this loss? what path did she take after her mother's death? i’m somehow very mega-strong, somehow i felt like i pulled myself together, that is, our exclusive 5 years of the adult life of a girl who decided at all costs to become a star in memory of her famous mother . when you appeared in the world, my life changed, i will always be by your side, exclusive with dmitry borisov on saturday on the first. to the words of vladislav igorevich one indirect one, but it seems to me i would add an important topic related to the personality of prince vladimir, speaking about him, we should not forget about his grandmother, because this is a very

important paradigm, which later, centuries later , manifested itself in our history with all its force, the princes are not olga, but... who was unable to raise him as a christian when he was a small child, nevertheless managed to tell him quite a lot about what she was looking for and found herself, so that after decades, and we know how important they are for a person’s personality, children's memories played their role in the turning point that he experienced, we also know how this tradition of faith in...

the example of a prince, the example of the first person in the state, the first person in the city, he was then, and even now, of course , is exceptionally great, and what i think differs from many of the first princes of other countries is that people saw that this was really not the choice of only a wise politician introducing a community into russia.

i don’t, it’s present, but on the other hand, this phrase shouldn’t be seen

as some kind of threat, aggression, yes, but it’s just necessary remember, after all, that the power of the prince at that time was largely patriarchal, the prince was perceived as the head of a certain family, clan, of the vast entire russian people, the people trusted the choice of the prince in many ways, this is one thing, the second is still an amazing moment, because not the sources, not folklore, but some kind of...

this is something that is inextricably linked with the historical path of the russian church, in this sense it cannot

be said that this is some kind of new political glorification, accomplished retroactively, not based on personal properties, based on scale and results activities of prince vladimir, he did not become a hero of modern culture, prince vladimir, like vladimir the red sun in russian folklore in bliny. there is a permanent acting character, certainly positive, not always unambiguous in his actions, but still unconditionally positive, such a great external authority. remember the works of russian literature there from the 18th-19th centuries, which would have entered the treasury of russian culture, in which he would have been imprinted, perhaps, which you and i cannot, but here, perhaps, it also had an effect the fact that in russian literature and there in other forms of art in literature, especially of the classical age

, they preferred not to write about saints in artistic literature. clergy, monasticism, christianism, from the part of the philistinism, but certainly not the milieu of aneygon, lensky, pechorin, and especially the heroes of dostoevsky, if possible, i would add here that, of course, father maxim is right about the fact that after all the nobility, the intelligentsia, yes, this is a slightly different, so to speak, layer with different demands, but

nevertheless, in this environment we see the memory of the prince vladimir in a slightly different way... perhaps it is refracted, yes, this is, first of all , the establishment of the order of st. vladimir in the russian empire, one of the highest, very respected, this is some kind of, well, absolutely incredibly large-scale construction of churches in honor of st. vladimir, the vladimir cathedral in kiev, in khersanes, tabrichesky, in sevastopol, the admiral's cathedral, many others, and churches are dedicated to prince vladimir, that is, vladimir is still a figure who, well... in general, is constantly present in the spotlight, and this is the one the historical source that russia remembers in the imperial period, but i would like to recall, in an earlier time, the 11th century, yes, these are words of praise to prince vladimir, written by metropolitan ilorion, iakov mnich, this is the time when, apparently,

constantinople was not very inclined to glorify prince vladimir, that... europe and asia of the mountains of the steppes spread out a blooming garden of eden, we are bashkirians, friends, bashkirs , he took several arrows in his mouth like that, you know , in battle, another three or four between his fingers, that’s how

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here on this stage there is a real holiday: two stars, fathers and children, look after the evening news, today we have gathered with thoughts about the baptism of russia, proterey maxim kozlov, vladislav egerovich petrushko, i am vladimir ligoida, we continue, i had a course an introduction to russian culture for foreign students, i’m reading, and i told them there about... here’s a window to europe, suddenly i’m like this, i somehow never thought of cutting a window in something, so this must be something be, that is, there must be some kind of wall, it turns out that again, if we turn to the story of time... years , where it is clearly shown that the choice is already taking place not only between christianity and other religions, as we would say today, but between christianity roman and

constantinople, it turns out that this is the one the wall that prince vladimir began to build, so to speak, volens-nolens, but erected, so to speak, well, one way or another, by the time of the baptism of russia, the division of the eastern and western churches, although they were close in years.

whether it was unconsciously carried out by prince vladimir, it was thanks to this choice that russia became the heir to cyril’s methodius work,

everything that came first to the southern slavs, reading the sacred scriptures in their native language, church books, first beslova and the word be to god the word bebog, and according to legend first words written in the slavic language, and

turns for the first bishop for russia to the german king, emperor, later aten the first, and this monk adalbert comes, the unlucky one who

could not do anything in russia, but in general we are the same we see in the bulgarian church, but here is such an understanding, firstly, of the unity of the church, of the fact that rome and constantinople are poles of the same church, the appeal is there. then back, so to speak, yes, well, then, then to rome, then to constantinople, but with all this, yes, there is a certain political moment, the desire to build some kind of church independence on this, but at the same time this feeling of truly church unity, and it seems to me that under vladimir there was something similar, yes, he is baptized in the eastern rite, in greek, with with the help, of course, of byzantine missionaries, but - here it seems to me that the hypothesis of shakhmatov and preselkovo is very close that under vladimir, the russian church most likely was not strictly

dependent on ... constantinople, and vladimir tried to follow this bulgarian path , creating a certain church structure within a single church, but without any strict connection to any particular center, be it rome or constantinople, all this later only took shape in the 11th century, apparently, although formally yes, the greeks may have established the kiev metropolis , it was present in their diptychs, but even that fog that we see in the tale of bygone years. in relation to the era of prince vladimir , he speaks of some kind of subsequent editing of the texts of that time, some initial chronicles, which on the one hand emphasize the significance of the figure of vladimir, on the other hand, we do not see any specifics, how the actual baptism of russia took place, who baptized russia, what specific people, except perhaps anastas korsunyanin, maybe, but it seems to me that this is some kind of there may even be an insult

to the byzantines and fact.

the theology of history, all eclisiology, the words of the law of grace - this is the eclisiology of biblical history and the christian church, like the gifts of grace of the new testament, without all these differences, unleavened bread, and others, about which such volumes were written on west and east, and so much parchment was translated, as we would now say.

no matter what academician robakov and his students found there monuments related to russian paganism, you and i understand that this is absolutely prohibitive in relation to our entire national history, well, yes, well, it was like before ancient greece there was something there too , this is known, yes in some, yes, but for us the historian of greece begins with antiquity, for us the history of russia begins with

the baptism of the previous rus.

such a fact is not obvious and which actually and may be partially opposed to the political situation today, despite all its difficulties, well, of course, this unity is especially... in my opinion, manifested itself in the pre-mongol period, then, as we know, after the mongol invasion the fate of the western territories of russia, historical , and north-eastern russia, if the west fell under the rule of lithuania and poland, then in the north-east of russia , independent russian statehood nevertheless developed slowly, steadily, but still turned into that state.

no matter how they tried, say, to impose a union on the western russian lands, it practically failed, except for galicia, which became completely isolated and then fell under the rule of austria-hungary, and then poland again, then, in general, even in the west russia, uniateism, greek catholicism, yes, so to speak, it actually could not establish itself, the western russian population returned to its orthodox origins, so...

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govorova, proterey maxim kozlov, vladislav igorevich petrushko, i am vladimir ligoida, we have gathered our thoughts about the baptism of russia. let's continue. i would also like to have time to talk about such a concept as holy russia, because this is also such a unique self-understanding, and self-identity, because few, and if at all, about any people, about any culture, one can say that this is how he identifies himself, but in such categories, averentsev again wrote that this category is almost cosmic, but devoid of signs of locality, only he said one thing there, it can include everything and be... here what dostoevsky called such openness and so on, what kind of

category is holy russia? on the one hand, i still don’t agree that this is the uniqueness of only russia; rather, it is still the uniqueness of medieval christianity, which saw the holiness of a way of life as the ultimate goal of human existence and society. i remember when in my youth, what a huge impression the words and the historical path of russia made, just about this period, which we call holy russia, in my opinion, he said very accurately that this does not mean that people were saints, or that there was sin or there was no weakness then, we know very well that he was, and the measure of cruelty and the measure of betrayal there, it was also colossal now. including in ancient russia between russian princes, but another important thing is that those

who sinned knew that they were sinning, the holiness of the way of life was the norm that even those who did not reach it, or those who were in relation to they retreated from it, sometimes very far, and this really was determining the consciousness of our compatriots throughout those centuries that we call centuries of the holy russia, and this... is the greatest historical heritage and memory monument, in particular to prince vladimir, it was thanks to him that this became possible, and this is what we must recreate if we hope for some positive prospect for the development of our society, our state, of our church, not a nominal, but a real aspiration for holiness, holiness as a cultural ideal, as well as as a vector,

was somehow reflected especially clearly by the karamazov brothers. you know, at the end of our conversation, this is what it means for us today, so i’ll probably ask loyalty to this choice, which then the prince made for himself, there for the squad, for the people, in general, and because of us in some sense, and for us he made this choice, and if we speak from a position of importance . to remain faithful to this choice, what does this

mean today? and if possible, such a small one is a question at your discretion, since this is a holiday, we have both a church holiday, and the day of remembrance of prince vladimir, the day of the baptism of russia, for us it is also a state holiday, and for several years now, like on yours look at this holiday it’s worth carrying out, well, the second question is probably simpler, but how convenient, it seems to me, what’s very important is... what we’ve already talked about, the feeling of some incredible unity and unity of the russian people led by their prince, yes this...

with which we should compare our lives with the era of prince vladimir, well, as for the celebration, it really shouldn’t be confined to a narrow church celebration, but of course orthodox people should probably attend a service on this day, but this holiday is broader much, i think, both non-believers and representatives of other religions. still, we should probably also realize that russia was formed as a state, after all, on the orthodox foundation that prince vladimir laid. of course, a huge building has grown, which, perhaps, has outgrown a lot, yes, from what was originally laid out, conceived, but again,

this is still the basis, and if we do not preserve, respect, honor, remember this basis , then... the whole building will collapse, in general, and i think that both muslims and jews and buddhists russians, they equally should see in vladimir the founder of the russian state, in the form to which it, so to speak, developed and transformed by the 21st century, in this sense, of course, this holiday should not be seen as a purely orthodox celebration, but of course , we need to see much deeper ones. also a state-political, cultural layer, i would add one more thing: thanks to the choices he made of our ancestors , the gospel appeared in their native language, implying certain life choices: do not kill, do not to steal, but to be a faithful member of your family,

to honor your father and mother, at least if the listed a... try to update it today in the days following the holiday of the baptism of russia, and this is fully relevant, and for those who are already in the fence of the church, and for those who want to be a russian person, a russian in the entire sense of our history, since it began globally in 988, and this is at least a very deep, serious and... such an internally attractive choice that i from those who watch us, very i advise you to do it. thank you very much, dear father maxim, dear friends, proteor maxim kozlov, chairman of the educational committee of the russian orthodox church, vladislav igorevich petrushko, professor of church history, i am vladimir legoyda, we were gathering

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