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as if their own manju and so on, as it is vulgarly presented by marxism and, unfortunately, dominates in our society, entrepreneurs are people who create to a large extent for the sake of creation, who are motivated by this internal, internal need to create, to change the world, to transform and so on, in this, well , as if there is no, well, as if theory and artificial construction of a social structure, these are simply people who have this internal need, so i am convinced that the majority of those entrepreneurs who with...
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and choose, well, the technology or product on which i earn. source one, well, i just want to do good for people and somehow earn money on this, values. source of motives is different, greed, i want, i want money, passion, humanity historically had a choice to somehow strain itself and agree on ethics and regulation of all this, but it's all difficult, hard, it would be easier to trust the market and competition, but in our company the word entrepreneur is prohibited, you know? why? because there
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here, here when uh i just want to earn money, and if uh everything that is not prohibited is allowed, if there is no ethical norm, then the easiest way for me to earn money is to take someone else, not to take the effort that ilya is talking about to create benefit on it , but the easiest way is to take someone else, whom, uh, to pay an employee cheaper, to take more from him, the state. taxes do not pay the client something something an unstable model, well, but nevertheless often, but very effective, yes, yes, paradoxically, look, so if there is such a big, look, macrophilosophical context, yes, that is , it is clear that well, if we look through, say, religious-philosophical glasses, then any such aspirations, they will ultimately run into the imperfection of human nature and its fallen state.
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from a christian point of view, yes, that is, we understand that this is an unattainable ideal, all the same, yes, to which, nevertheless, humanity is moving, but does this mean, on the one hand, on the other hand, that this is bad, we say, even here actually from the christian point of view, that before becoming deified, one must become human, and what i hear in the words of sergei nikolaevich is that guys, let's become human, well , we have a certain teaching about, that is, the transformation of man. this is a christian teaching and a christian worldview and from this point of view i tried yes-yes-yes this is what transforms man, i am a little afraid of teachings about society about the possibility of this society , as it were, changing, transforming within the framework of certain given ethical systems, as if pulling people under these, as if created someone ethical systems, which are partly rational, partly rational, morality itself, something else benefit, well, some kind of combination, why because to mars a little bit. i'll come back, this is important, this will be
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the answer to this question, because - in marx's time there was a very tough dispute between communists and socialists, it consisted in the fact that the communists said that capitalism should be destroyed immediately to build communism. that is, the city of the sun, and the socialists, therefore, were kind of against it, that is, these were different views in general on the development societies, and mars, he kind of reconciled them, he said that after capitalism, communism cannot be built, because man is old, he is not ready, he is still a wolf, like yes, he will be a wolf, yes, therefore it is necessary to build socialism, socialism is a change in relations and changing man, the creation of a new man, so again, we, how can i say, people who lived through the soviet era, we remember this like this mantra, yes... the creation of a new man, here is the soviet man - it was a project to create a new man, this is what man was created, we recently saw it once again, this pair itself, the old man and the new man, it is quite, but not through society, but through, excuse me,
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existential processes, yes, through the transformation of man, through the deep inner work of man, it seems to me that the movement towards a just society, this is still i fight, well...
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he doesn't walk with him, today you will have the opportunity, he will be alone, all the information is on your phone, atap they will kill him, at his house, guessing game, new episodes, tomorrow on first, to the ninety-fifth anniversary of oleg strizhennyi, every mortal has the right to wish passionate. heavenly beauty artist, huge blue eyes that are absolutely identical to the sky you look at, your eyes are exactly like blue water, with oleg alexandrovich it was impossible to go anywhere, here you go somewhere immediately the attention of a woman, grandfather always
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supported me, we discussed roles with him, great luck to have the opportunity to consult with a master of such magnitude, once he called me and said, young girls came up to me, you said dad sasha strizhanova, and i realized that... finally my life was a complete success, they say that love goes away with the years, no, it's not true, in our case it's not, if it weren't for her, around me, i can't imagine, i simply wouldn't have lived to see today, the love of my life, no, it's not too late now, tomorrow will be too late, visions: what would i wish my grandfather for his birthday, more great-grandchildren, on saturday on the first, in our studio the music from my favorite movies is playing again, when she sang the first take,
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the musicians' souls trembled, they said: we need to rewrite it, we need another take, the director fell to his knees and said: "please, just don't, a wonderful comedy, wedding in malinovka, all music"? when i read what komarova wrote, i was very surprised, i was sure that it was something very popular and very ancient, yes 3:4
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for a week, on saturday on the first, and today we gathered our thoughts about capitalism and its current state, as well as what we can do with all this. ilya kuzmenkov, sergey ivanov, i am vladimir ligoyda. let's continue. and if we go back a little bit. to the topic of capitalism, correct me if i'm wrong, there is such a thing as competition, it is fundamental, yes, for these free markets, relations, competition, it is actually an incentive for growth and so on, that 's how much for that system, and for that, well , let's say not a system, for how you want to see it built and how you said it so wonderfully, we need to move somewhere, for that country in which we want to move, it represents risks, it is more of a risk or opportunities, right? in what, in what then are the risks, we can’t refuse it or can we, this is
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an interesting question, because competition can be different, for example, boxers compete with each other, and also how does it make sense to knock out, so that everything human leaves the opponent, competition, a boxing match, a fight can be there, sambo wrestlers, but there it’s already different, there are already bygone, there are already, well, as if the rules, as competition are built differently, chess players also compete, that is, the very concept of competition and... well, the modern interpretation, it’s rather boxing, here to destroy, even tougher, probably, than boxing, yes, it is rather fights without rules, and here the question is interesting, here is what, if we start from the fact that our vital energy is fed by, uh, our cultural cat, yes, that's who we are, even the word empathy, when we pronounce it, it means nothing to us at all, it is alien, yes, it is not ours, well , to be honest, i don't like it, of course, and if if we add, and if we say that we mean the prefix so, yes, so, which is almost every verb.
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he says: we have two hearts: russia collective, and russia is individual, these collective, these are the ones that exist, it turns out that there are, this is a controversial thing, three civilizations, so we are trying, when somehow among ourselves internally learn to think about who we are, yeah, we are talking about the fact that in principle it is possible to divide different worldviews by immanence, forgive me for this word one more, that is, naturally inherent, well , internally inherent, yes, greed. vanity and hedonism, so it turns out that there are three groups of worldviews, well, roughly we can, we use
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the word civilization, the first one is greed is the engine of progress, the meaning, well, the most successful ones are those who have the most money in the account, the meaning of life can be called, it is to become the richest in the cemetery, well, the worldview dominates now, it basically feeds this socio-economic idea to a greater extent, the second civilization, it does not argue with the fact that greed is the engine of progress, but it says: that money in general has sacred power, money is a measure of the correct service to god, and maybe even your divine chosenness, that's it the third civilization, it goes on the attack against greed and hedonism, it calls them in its own words lust, avarice, self-love, it says that no, this is, of course, naturally inherent, but there is nothing good in this, it must be fought, this is mainly christianity, this is traditional religion and... so if you launch the third civilization into free floating, the third will always
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lose, they must lose to some other force precisely in the competitive struggle, because they will not be able to do the same, and for that, to give them strength, opportunities, you need to create some special conditions, protect, rules, perhaps formulate some more understandable, transparent ones, create some conditions for them, that is, but there is vital force there, there is a lot of it, a lot, lotman was asked who is a cultured person? and lotman yuri mikhailovich, our great outstanding compatriot, he said that we all have our own circle of pain, yes, there are people who feel pain when they are offended, when they are hurt, yes, there are people who feel pain when they are hurt family, there are relatives there, here he says, a cultured person is one who is hurt by someone else's pain, that's what you said, you feel someone else's pain as your own, well , probably, this is generally such an ideal of holiness, sometimes as your own, but when you basically feel someone else's pain, right? when you are in pain, because you can experience pleasure from someone else's pain, yes, what
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does he need, that's what he needs, right? i don't know, really, how to connect all this with our topic, but of course, the question of competition in our history in the middle of the 20th century, in my opinion, there was a difference that such competition, what is competition, in competition the strong has the right to destroy the weak, in competition the strong has the obligation to pull the weak up to, that is , to take the lead over the weak. thing here i remembered our wonderful writer and sinologist rybakov rybakov vyacheslav vyacheslav mikhailovich robakov, he says that any pragmatism... in the limit is fraught with betrayal, yeah, this seems to me, also relates to our topic, that is, if there is some competition, which holds as its basis the solution of some pragmatic goal, then in the limit this potential risk of betrayal is always there, well, because you can always be offered a solution that
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will be pragmatically better, cooler, yes, which will lead you to the desired goal, you will just have to give up those for this. you started, that's all, there is one pill, possible, as an option that can protect you from this, this is such an order of nikolai fyodorovich fyodorov, which i perceive him as a businessman, an order, how to do business, not for yourself, not for others, but with everyone and for everyone, and somehow you are trying to fit yourself into this logic, it gives you a system of reference points, imagine that there is a certain young man who has not yet been involved in any kind of entrepreneurship, but he wants to, if you had a conversation with him over tea, what would you tell him first of all, well, to begin with, i would not advise him to become an economist, a financier, all this, all this knowledge is acquired, it will not go anywhere, find a business from which the heart,
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something resonates in the heart, what you want to do, you can be... well, that's what my calling is, that's what i am for society, what i want, that's how my place in society should be, well, when i'm there in 10, in 20 years, what kind of benefit should i create, what kind of social utility, that's my business, it will be built around what, if i have an image of this vision, or at least a thirst for searching, then i will try, try, try and when you find it, it will be
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energy to feed you and strength - to form life and be such a guiding star. circumstances, that is, to put first and second to remain a christian in any place, your christian dignity, do not lose it, under any circumstances, and business takes a person through different circumstances, through different temptations, when it goes well, when it goes badly, when there is a team around you, many temptations, many challenges, so do not lose your christian
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dignity under any circumstances, can i add about christian dignity, in general about metaphysics, we came to this topic, a year and a half ago. i ended up in kostoarica also an event, fate also abandoned you, also yes, also some conference, i had a slide there, i wanted to finish with it, and i show this slide to the consultants, and they tell me, take this slide away, why, it 's very indecent, it's uncultured, you'll offend half the audience, and in general you don't do that in polite society, biblical quotes yes , i'm like, well, okay, i'll take it away, i made a poll on my channel, is it decent, indecent, 30% of me say: take it away, i'm from and a quote from the gospel, i'm among believers businessmen, my comrades i ask, and what was the quote, look first for the kingdom of god, its truth, everything else will be added to you, i ask, can i have 50x50, like where are you going, and i still have to redo it, i will redo it, eh, well, in general, i fly a 36-hour flight, well, like
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someone, well, one priest blessed me, says, well, this is possible, this is how you can redo it, yes i... well, put it, not a slide, well, and like at the end of the speech put it, somewhere in the middle of the road, yes, but if you don’t invite me again, i return this i take it out, i don’t read what’s written there, i just pronounce the words, i say, i’m an orthodox christian, for me this is a very important system of meanings, but it seems to me that it generally concerns everyone present, because this is the formula for success of a modern creative leader or at least a message about something important from the past for us, how can this be translated into our language? but modern, first seek to do something useful for others, for whom, for others, for your clients, customers and for employees, everything else, everything else, business. revenue, profit will definitely be added to you. amen. thank you very much, dear friends. sergey ivanov, entrepreneur, public
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figure, ilya kuzmenkov, media manager, entrepreneur. i, vladimir legoyedin, today we gathered our thoughts about capitalism, well, in general, we talked about a lot, it was very interesting for me. all the best. hello everyone, on the air of the first channel podcast everyone wants to fly and its host leonid yakubovich, today we, if you allow, will remember from the tragic-heroic epic, i it was not for nothing that he allowed himself this term, the epic is truly tragic and the epic is truly heroic, 90 years ago, on april 13, 1934. the rescue operation of the chelyuskinites was completed, well, let's go chronologically: thirty-second, thirty-third year, in the soviet union large-scale
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scientific research work on the development of the arctic begins, however, the work is hard, difficult, because practically along the northern sea route, if they went, then incredibly rarely, there was practically no information. nevertheless, the head of the project heads all in the sea paths, otto yulievich schmidt, an incredibly passionate, incredibly ambitious man, who wrote many notes, reports about how he was ready to immediately, right now, go into battle, nevertheless convinced the government that he was ready to navigate the northern sea route on the steamship chelyuskin, and the government agreed to this, not right away, not right away. because the degree of risk was still very high. so, on august 2, 1933, the
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icebreaker steamship chelyuskin, which was initially called lena, and was built in denmark, several such steamships were built, it was intended to carry cargo on the lena, so it was named lena. it was renamed in honor of semyon chelyuskin, so on august 2, 1933, it ... set out from murmansk, on board 53 crew members, 29 expedition members, 18 winterers, there were also 12 builders, in general, they set out, they also carried with them 3 tons of coal, 500 tons of water, four piglets, which during the journey, by the way, became dramatic huge boars, everything would have been fine, yes, by the way, there was a seaplane on board pilot... ш2, it was actually intended for reconnaissance flights, to determine the course of the ship, so that it was possible to bypass pack ice. the steamship was not an icebreaker, it
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was an icebreaker type steamship, well, how can i tell you, i and no one at that time and still do, it was a dubious story, dubious, the risk was huge, well, nevertheless, what happened, happened, the ship was going. and was going quite tightly, entered the kartskoye sea, the ship 's hull became deformed, this is natural, to the horror of the crew of everyone who was on board, it was punctured, no matter how they fought for saving the ship, on august 13, 2003 , a leak formed and there in the kara sea, in general, it began to be crushed by ice, then another joyful event happened, as by the way, fate arranges quite amazing things, next to ... grief, and next to happiness and joy, on board in the family of surveyor vasiliev, a daughter is born, due to the fact that they
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are in the kara sea, she was naturally named karina, well, everything was fine, but nevertheless it was not impossible to stop the leak, so on november 6, thirty-third year , the ship entered the bering strait, the collection was a radiogram was sent to moscow about the success, despite... leak, then the ice began to move in the opposite direction, squeezed chelyuskin, the ship was again carried out to the chukchi sea, there the ship finally froze into a large ice floe, the thickness of which reached from half a meter to one and a half meters, and drifted for 3 months together with the ice
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floe, having no opportunity to get out into clean water, and on february 13, 1934, 144 miles from... organizational skills of otyulevich smith, all 104 people. among whom were 10 women and two children, two girls, went out onto the ice, by the way, almost all food and flammable building materials were also evacuated. schmidt later wrote about the evacuation from the chelyuskin that the unloading was carried out in an exceptionally disciplined manner, there was not a single manifestation of panic, not a single violation of order, this is what yuch schmid wrote, as is easy to understand, it was necessary somehow... because there was no talk of immediate rescue, but everyone understood this perfectly well, well, nevertheless, thanks to the sawn timber rescued from the board, a wooden barracks was built in the camp, then tents, even a bakery was built and even the editorial board of the wall newspaper was organized, we do not give up. on february 14 , a government commission for assistance to the chelyuskinites was already created in moscow, headed by kuiboshev. here
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is the story, it means that at first there was no talk at all about rescuing the chelyuskinites by planes, because firstly, practically no one ever flew there, only the americans saved, in my opinion, someone there, this was the only case, naturally there were no maps and naturally there were no planes to the settlement, in general there were no planes on the chekotka, except, i think, one ant4, which was at uelen. then it was necessary to somehow organize the rescue expedition itself, well, specifically in the north, ushakov was appointed, two pilots, levanevsky and slepnev were sent to the united states to purchase two planes, in the modification of polar designs, this means they had to be on skis, the rest had to somehow get there on their own in airplanes. and
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we had planes, that means ant-4, one was at uelen, the second had to come there, and r2 aircraft were chosen for the rescue, i 'll tell you about the characteristics of these aircraft a little later, this is very important, well, so, levanevsky and slepnev bought two aircraft in america, all this, by the way, is not done in one day, and what had to be done in 2 weeks began only after three, in short, i repeat, livanevsky and slepnev bought two aircraft in america for them by roundabout routes, it was necessary to get to chukotka, then fly over, in general, it was incredibly difficult work, o which will be a special separate story someday, because this is not a conversation about one hour, the rest of the pilots, some by rail, some on their own got there by planes also 5,500...
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it was reported about the organization of the rescue, about all the events, in response schmidt sent courageous telegrams, we are sure that we will be saved, so schmidt wrote later, that he sent such radiograms to the collection, krenkel, the rodist, his call sign raa, became known to the whole country, here for these call signs r, latin letters, a, e, m. or me,
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i don't remember exactly now, the whole world knew it, these call signs were known by the whole world and were received by amateurs and professionals, everyone knew these call signs and everyone, every minute listened, listened to the air. it should be noted that in the chakota sea, at this time of year, well, how can i tell you, not very suitable, not only for swimming, but even for flights, polar winter, conditions are practically not... local -30-40, squall wind, all the pleasures that can only be, moreover, a strong wind, this is still more or less, but this is a blizzard, that is, the surface for landing is practically invisible, well, an order is an order, and the situation itself was developing in such a way, it was necessary to do the job. so, the first flight almost a month after the accident was made by the pilot
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lipidevsky, a legendary one. a pilot from god, how to say, probably, the word loved is not suitable, especially whom stalin noticed, lepidevsky by that time made several rather serious flights, about which the world was talking. so here is the airplane ant-4, i hold it in my hands, here it is the airplane ant-4, what can i say about the airplane? ant andrei nikolaevich tupolev, previously it was called tb, heavy bomber, it was designed as a bomber, two pilots, a flight mechanic, an observer pilot, now a second pilot, and there was also a person, equipped to drop bombs, he was called a bomb thrower, and there were also three people who p...
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there they are standing there, now they both go down, sit in the cockpit, and then lepidevsky writes, this is what he writes, so the speed of the board is 200 km, well, maybe a little lower with a headwind, outside 35-40 °,
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practically not a single instrument on board works nothing, no connection, the artificial horizon doesn't work, the saf freezes, the instruments freeze, in general, anything, but the worst thing is that it can be, as lipidevsky wrote, they take off the glass caps, there were no glasses, so, only like this fur parkas and eyes outside, on the first flight he understands that his eyes are freezing, his face is freezing, he takes off his glove, starts rubbing his face, a squally wind, something happens, starts...
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not good weather is an instrument flight, what is an instrument flight? i explain: the sky is white colors, white snow, there is practically no horizon line, which means you stare at the instrument on the artificial horizon and walk straight along it
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, well, how can i tell you, experienced pilots can handle this, but the stress is still quite serious, because your eyes just get tired, the whole apparatus just gets tired, looking at the instrument all the time, while... there is no glazing, 200 km/h blows in your face. 29 times lepidevsky goes there and back, for some strange reason, by the way, lepidevsky is mentioned, but they completely forgot about the second pilot, the aviation engineer, who was there, about the flight mechanic who was there, about the pilot-observer, who was the second pilot, suddenly their names for some mysterious reason disappeared, i can't say why, i don't know. here he goes there 29 times, here is some more rather strange information, which at that time was never published, never, and today it's very much so, but
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conspiracy theories, they are, they are raging in the heads of many, someone wrote, i saw this note and even saw a photograph, maybe it's photoshop, i don't know, it was done quite dashingly for those times, that there was not one steamship, but... had to prove that we can, really can, in spite of everything , win. however, one of the theories says that there was not one steamship, but two, i repeat, i even saw in some publication photographs of the second steamship, which was called pizhma, it seems, where does what come from on this steamship, after chelyuskin... they carried political prisoners, who were supposed
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to be delivered to the far north for uranium mining, complete nonsense, since mining began only in fifty-first year, but nevertheless in this note it was also written that a decision was made to drown everyone, and some raised a mutiny, fled across the ice to america, there is no confirmation of this, neither then, nor now, on the air of the first channel refusal: everyone wants to fly, and i and the presenter leonid yakuvaevich, we are talking today about the heroic epic of saving the cheleskintsevs. so, 29 times lepidevsky flies back and forth and cannot find, despite the fact that from uelen there was a connection with schmidt's camp, and therefore, there were more or less known coordinates, and even asked to burn the barrels to smoke, but the weather here is terrible. at high, at sub-zero temperatures, the ice, when it disperses, the water
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begins to steam, and the smoke is also carried away by the wind to the side, plus steam, practically no smoke is visible, and 29 times he walks back and forth, showing amazing, simply incredible courage , clutching his hands, and then he suddenly unexpectedly writes that he was extremely angry and poured out on everything, on the chekotka, on the weather, on the ice, on everything, on this... on this, on this courage, on amazing courage, he finally finds them. march 5 lepidevsky finds shmidt camp, well, you know, he’ll fit in here, but how to get out of there, as the road operator from shmidt station reported, all they could clear was 450 m by 150, and for the ant4 to land , 650 was needed
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. 50 by one and a half meter columns, ice columns, so if you slip past further, then if you run into them, the question is not just how to land, the question is also how to take off from this, and he’s on skis, and as you understand, when you land on a chassis, that is , after all, even mechanical brakes, even at that time, can be used to brake, on skis you you won't slow down. i repeat, it was necessary, the pilot was, of course, outstanding, he lands at
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minimum speed, risking falling, still lands without damaging the board, he lands, well, of course, a meeting, shouts, squeals, throwing hats, hugging, kissing and so on, and in his head there is only one thing, how to take off from here, the point is not even that the lifting capacity is not enough, the lifting capacity would be enough, because the plane held more weight, but where to place them all, there is no device for landing, passengers, no, it's elementary, uh, together with schmidt they decide that they will transport women, women and children, let's imagine such a picture, since there is nowhere to sit, the women are laid on the ice, they are all in fur parkas, which at first horrifies leipzig, because they are big, he says: my god, you are all such fat women.

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