well, i would really like her to be afraid of me, because in general these words are addressed not to the spouse, of course, to the future head or becoming head, in general - of the family man, that is, in what should she be afraid of him, she should be afraid of losing him, she should be afraid, let's say, of offending him, you and i know very well that it is very easy to lose, but yours is like an elephant in a china shop, somehow you turned the wrong way. quarrel, crack, human rumor poured into the crack, cold came into the relationship, yes, all this crack has grown, and people have separated, that is, here the fear is completely different, the fear of loss, loss of communication in general, therefore, of course, i would really like my mother to be afraid of me, yes , i try, but i don’t know, but here there are still wonderful words that somehow slip through, yes, here... right before these,

that each of you will love your wife as yourself, yes, yes, yes, yes, we, in general, yes, we somehow ride on ourselves, we exhaust ourselves, but each of us, the majority, has a refrigerator, has a roof over head, the refrigerator is not only where mice live, in general, yes, or they don’t, well, there’s something there, we dress somehow , all this, of course, is natural, and is this fear, yes, fear, of losing your other half, well, here is the sacrament of marriage, yes, in our life today it coexists, as they say, with the recording of the act of civil status, yes, about marriage, let’s leave aside the joke that a good deed won’t be called a marriage, but here, slavnaevna, here for you, what is the difference between those signatures, which you also responsibly with love put in the registry office, and the feelings that you experienced. temple, well

, i don’t even mean emotionally, it’s more or less clear, yes, that’s both the conclusion of marriage, that’s how, how do these two conclusions differ from each other, you know, i’ll share, to be honest, for the first time, probably, such very frank feelings, when we got married in the temple, there are icons hanging, i had a feeling as if all the saints were looking at us, and it was just you know, such a feeling of responsibility that it’s not just here we are... like this, and this is really such a very responsible decision before god, when you sign the registry office - this is also an exchange of promises, yes, to be with each other for life, to be responsible for each other, to love, to be one whole, yes, this is a family, but in the temple, this was such a completely spiritual responsibility, i felt it all so deeply. i give a dinner, here in front of seraphim

of sarov, sergei radonishsky, all of them are present here as witnesses, here for some reason there was just such a feeling, of course, a very high responsibility, great joy, because of course a marriage for love with feelings, i remember, our priest also asked us the day before, asked, how are the feelings, do you have feelings for each other, yes, that's also a... that's something they feel, now i'm always talking about those who get married and i thought, what does a priest feel, that's what you feel, i don't know how many you've probably already performed hundreds of weddings, right?

well, the lord performed it, that's how you say, through you, that's what, what you feel, maybe it changes somehow over the years, you know, here's the question, it's like this - asked by you, it's complicated, and the answer is even more complicated, because here we must immediately enter that zone, which well, will be criticized by everyone at once, the thing is that now it's fashionable to say that... "i don't need a mediator between me and god, well, but a priest, and i'm not afraid of this word, he is a mediator, and even when i teach at the sretinsky academy, yes, i tell future priests that you will intermediaries, that is, depending on what kind of wire is between your charger and your phone, it is very important whether it will charge or not, you are an accomplice. this marriage,

as you said, will not be called a good thing, yes, but you are an accomplice of this great thing, the sacrament, because the wedding is one of the seven sacraments of the church, what is a sacrament? yes, this is the sacred life of the church, which is aimed at a person, at his salvation, first of all, at improving the quality of life, in general, and moreover - people know latently, that you need to get married, then he definitely won’t leave, yes, although this is not so, but still this sacred life of the church, it gives the young couple, husband and wife, the opportunity to bring something special, here the priest must convey this something special to these newlyweds, in the eucharist bread and wine become body and blood, in the sacrament of baptism water becomes the gate to church life, yes the washing away of sins,

sins are committed physically, here is simple water that flows from the tap or in a well or in a river, it suddenly becomes freeing you from sins. not only physical, but also moral and so on, in the sacrament of marriage two people, two personalities become one flesh, this is already pure theology, in christ there are two natures, divine, human, but one personality , here it also turns out that two two people, two, in general, personalities, and one soul, as svetlana leni said wonderfully, by the way, here about one soul too. we can now, let's say, theologize a little, of course, our souls remain, and the soul, individual, persons there are people left, yes, in general, but the most interesting thing is that the apostle paul says that where do you, a believing wife, know that

your husband will not be saved, will your husband not be illuminated by your faith, who is an unbeliever, amazingly, at weddings, well, there with friends, acquaintances, you often had to, well, not often, but you had to, yes, and after, well, probably, both before and after, probably, your yes wedding, i'm just wondering how, what you experienced, how much does this bring you back to your wedding, if after, how does it feel, you said, this is wonderful that everything the saints look, yes, and what do you feel when you stand in the church and look at those who resort to the sacrament, when i was at the wedding of our... friends, i prayed in the church, i prayed that the lord would bless their marriage, help, because after all, really, if we go a little deeper, it’s all not so important, well, for me, at least, well, yes, i can’t say, everything

works out differently for everyone, yes, life, but at least for me it was very important, because it is still god’s blessing on on on on children, yes through parents strengthening faith.

for some time, and then come to the wedding, i don’t know, i wanted to get married right away, i wanted him to show his desire, my husband to support me because why try a relationship then, well yes, well that’s at least, that’s what i’m saying, that’s my point of view, i can’t impose it, but i had such a response in my soul, and it seems to me that it’s wonderful when you get married not to try or something, suddenly it won’t work out yet, i don’t understand at all. especially having children, that’s there must also be absolute confidence in each other, and love, of course, which creaks these bonds, and it really will become a feeling when one soul for two, well figuratively, yes, when you can't live without your other half, even when he leaves for the store and you feel that somehow

there is some kind of thread, you need to call, worry about each other, it's wonderful, then the family really becomes like the ground under your feet, when you get tired from work, you come home, and it's like a breath of fresh air... where was she tired, it would seem tired, yes, yes, yes, that's great, today we gathered our thoughts about the wedding, wipe igor famin, svetlana feodulova, i am vladimir ligoida, we continue, here is father igor, and you already said that, eh, they say, well, we'll get married, then everything will be fine, i just wanted to ask you, and again, based on your experience, when people come, we want to get married, yes, you talk to them, right? and you

're arguing about something, you need to apologize, you 'll stop arguing, some grandmother said, you have some, well i don't know, personal statistics, yes, regarding most often, because of what they come, how much do you have to work with this, speaking, in such modern slang, yes, so that somehow, well , it comes, it seems to me, for the same reasons, well... they swear when, yes, that with ordinary secular people, in general, but you know, in fact, with married people it is easier in fact, as if so, well , to communicate, to talk to you as a priest, yes, yes, it is much easier for me, because svetlana has already touched upon here, such a mystical yes , that moment of experience, sensation, very often people come, well yes...

it's an amazing moment, but as it happens , you know, i have, frankly speaking

, exactly, several tricks, in general one, usually before marriage i try in every way to upset the future wedding, i say, why do you need this, what do you want from this, listen, let's not do this and so on, and you watch how the couple reacts, at first so cautiously, they came to get married to a priest, he persuades them not to do this and so on, maybe not the real one, maybe. what did you see in her, that's who you got together with to get married, it's for life and so on, and why do you need it there, so you start asking such provocative questions, in fact, it works very well, because then they start remembering it, listen, you yourself said that i am a gentleman there, someone else, well, you know,

in fact, a wedding is a very important aspect, it does not bind for life, well , in a magical way, yes, in a magical way, but it helps people go through this life together, to feel like one whole, even when you quarrel there, even when you turned away from each other. everything, everything is different, in fact, believe me, it flows, even children who are born in such a marriage, the attitude towards them is also special, and the most interesting thing is that initially , by the way, this is written in such an apocryphal gospel of thomas, yes, that the apostle fama was asked by the indian king, he was present at the wedding, to read a prayer in the bedchamber, yes, that is, it turns out. among the first christians , the wedding took place directly in

the bedroom, the birth of children in braketa is one of fundamental points, here it is all tied together, husband and wife are one whole, children, god is among them, and of course it is much easier to talk to people who are married to look after them, and statistics, well, unfortunately, i don’t keep track, although fortunately. i don’t know, it seems to me , unfortunately, although i saw one priest, he has such a big diary, where he writes down absolutely everything, there are phone numbers, he calls around like this, why.

in his hands, and he realized that they were on a motorcycle we arrived, he says, well, do you really want to, yes, we love each other there, we can’t live without each other, he says, well, imagine that you ’re driving now, i just don’t remember who he addressed, but in short, there’s an accident, one of you ends up there, or he told each of you, he ends up bedridden there for the rest of his life, so are you ready to go to this marriage taking this into account, if you’re not ready, no need, no need to rush, but if you’re ready, well, then that’s it... it’s really a feeling, which is a tough condition, but in some way in the ultimate sense, how else, yes, how else, without such questions, in fact it is impossible - to prepare for marriage, that is, uh, before marriage - you understand, this candy-bouquet period or there is a borscht-pie period, yes, whatever you want

to call it, who, what loves them more, yes, yes, it is ideal, here a person got ready there, uh, they communicate, let's say, 12:00 a day, every day, from 9 am to 9:00 pm, yes, here he got ready for these 12:00, then came home, exhaled, said: "ugh, thank god, there is this, yes, now i'll lie down, spit on the ceiling, look at this, and yes, tie aside or whatever, granny aside there, well, but here you have to be together all 24 hours, and you already look at the person differently, it's impossible without such provocative questions, you know, you just said this, i.

for a very long time we communicated exclusively, but firstly, there he was my director, i am an artist and i, as an artist, i kept my distance so that it would be easier to solve work issues and somehow we were friends, but at the same time we could talk very frank things, concerning spiritual things, concerning even church things, concerning, as it were, the attitude towards children, well, many, i remember we touched upon moments that were very personal, but... i could open up to a person when we were flying on a plane on tour and tell him, and we talked very easily, that's what i remember, there was such ease, and i did very well, yes , the most diverse topics, here are even very frank, subtle moments that i probably couldn't discuss with anyone, yes, i spiritual and personal nature, once andrey

asked me, he says, you have your spiritual father, priest, you told me a lot about... take me with you sometime, i also want to talk to him, communicate, then the priest talked to me separately , talked to him separately, he didn’t even talk to us, and there were some kind of our relationships, and then he came out and suddenly said: get married, you have one soul for two, and you know, so we were driving back, i don’t remember at all without saying a word, you have to think, you have to think, well, that's it, and in life we've never even held each other's hands. the next day we were leaving, and before that he'd never blessed me to get married, well, that's how it was completely unexpected, the next day we were flying to malaysia on tour, and i remember andrey came to me and discussed the dress, what dress would you sing in, what notes, she took these notes, let's try to build a family, yesterday they blessed us, that's how

you know, we sat down and talked about this topic, i had this feeling, there was some wording there. to ask in confession to ask a question, how are you to each other, you are such a couple, i have been thinking about this for a long time, how to bring you together here, oh, i fully support it, but that means before marriage, before the wedding. in order to keep the relationship pure , since you have known each other for many years, this purity, you know, as we said, a bouquet of romantic period, we did not have it as such, but it was better than

any other romance, when we we were preparing for the wedding for several months, it somehow brought us closer, and you know, so many feelings appeared, such incredible romance, when i saw how humanely economical he was, when he wrote these lists, called from the store, we began such a small life, well... already like a life, we were so cozy with each other, today we gathered our thoughts about the wedding, wiped igor famin, svetlana feadulova, i am vladimir ligoida, we continue, i can share such a slightly non-standard experience, but i can to say that this is still valuable, that my husband treated this decision with respect, that we both held back our emotions, we both... mm, we were preparing for the wedding, now - this mutual respect that was present in the preparation for the marriage, and it seems to me that it is present now in the marriage,

this respect for each other, and you know, this is what i was thinking about when you said about the second priest, yes, who said that he was looking at you, daddy, well - well, so to speak, we all have do you have some kind of your own vision, yes, if or maybe you have had situations when you... also look closely, but it seems to you that not at all, but on the other hand, it is a huge responsibility to say that you are not a couple, and to say that you are a couple, a huge responsibility, you had to experience such feelings at some point and what to do with them or maybe you had to say that you know, in fact, what you are talking about, i believe that this is a special gift of a priest who can to unite hearts like this, there are such priests who say, listen, that's it, you two took, united, they lived there their whole lives... and so on, although there are mistakes, this must be generally acknowledged, one elder priest told an amazing story about how he took, united

a seminarian and a girl from the regency school at confession, many years later he came to their home, lived with them there for a week, he is already a metrophor, this seminarian became a priest, and so he says, i say on the fifth day i got up on knees. in front of this priest, he said, he says, father, he says, forgive me, the elder kneels down, forgive me, i was wrong, and there is a mother like that in a ponytail in a grue, and they lived there with many children, already more than a dozen years in general together, to which the priest like yes what are you, what are you, father, he says, but i began to acquire humility, yes, in fact this is a gift, sometimes, in general, you are really right, you look, they came for a blessing and it seems that well, no... it fits, but no, you look, life, wonderful, great, okay, they acquire death, yes, they acquire death, actually you know, i would like to comment a little on svetlana's story

from a liturgical point of view, how long were you there together, preparing for 9 months for the wedding or whatever, yes for the wedding, in fact , all this is provided for by the church, in our case, the wedding consists of two parts: the engagement, where they exchange rings and the wedding itself, uh, they are not necessarily at the same time, they should not be at the same time at all, that is, what is an engagement, yes, they exchange rings, the ring - this was a sign of a kind of ransom at first, that is , the groom together with his father had to pay the ransom or transfer, let's say, power, seal, signature to the bride, this is the engagement, but this is not yet a life together, but already... dinner, to remain faithful to each other, and preparations are underway for the wedding itself, the contractual part is underway, here is how you sat down,

talked there, you need to agree here on the shore, yes-yes-yes, it turns out that all this is provided for, here is a mysterious wedding, or rather an engagement, and a lot of time can pass, that is, guests are invited there, more something like that, they cut salads there, well, that's it, everything as it should be. only those who remained faithful before marriage, and that is, all the stages that you went through, they are - illuminated by the church, they are blessed, they are very important, for us

now, unfortunately. "we, i have already read a piece from the apostolic reading, yes, which is read at the wedding, it is longer, it is very important, but but the main thing is still the reading of the gospel, and the gospel reading of the wedding is the marriage in cana of galilee, yes, where - the savior turns water into wine, here, that's why this passage, well , it's clear, because the formal reason is clear, because it's about marriage, yes, that's it. but how should this be perceived? well, it should be perceived as a personal blessing, right here, by the lord's presence on this wonderful, cheerful, let's say, holiday, there are actually a lot of meanings here, one of the meanings is that we know that the lord heals a lot, performs a lot of miracles during his life, but mainly over the sick, the crippled, those who

suffer, and here the first thing, yes, always some kind of help, that's exactly it, for us , for some reason, a miracle is connected with this, well, except for walking on water, the whim of the apostle peter, in general, yes, but here, on the contrary, here he is, the first miracle that he performs in his earthly life, yes, it is connected with joy, it is connected with that, healing, which in general are present in this world, well, and of course. we understand from this gospel reading that the lord is for marriage, so that this marriage would be so national, when people come and they say, can we get married, we won't have anyone, quietly together somewhere there, in the basement, there, close the doors , something like that, in the end you agree to these persuasions, after all , it's a sacrament, it's still a sacrament, even in

this, but it's sad, you know? it's sad when it's our personal, that's all, here of course the documents need to be carefully checked, because the case of vladimir ramanich, so many things happen, and you didn't run away from under the wine, you didn't have it, you know, i had a case, no, when i was riding on a bus along kutuzovsky prospekt, in the bus dropped by, i understood, the bride, that's because the wedding dress, that's exactly where this registry office is.

you know, that's where i'd like to finish our conversation, we've already mentioned it from different sides, talking about the fact that the sacrament is not a magical ritual, yes, it doesn't, it doesn't break the human will, yes, what does that actually mean, that it doesn't mean that now everything will be automatic without any effort, but the question of preserving the marriage, feelings, yes, probably not even preserving, somehow i don't like this expression, feelings should actually grow, yes , ideally, yes, and not also preserve.

means, i said: my dear, you are a means of achieving god, yes, she, of course, at what point did you tell her, it was recently, recently, yes, this is a means of achieving god, well, of course, first, i think so, it was a shock, probably from the beginning of mother, then royally, and then here...

christ was attainable by me, if i do not use it incorrectly, then my goal will not be achieved by me, here of course it seems to me it lies. accepted, realized, and now sometimes says, your remedy needs a chocolate bar, and, you know, i also told a group of very wealthy people about marriage, we met once, when i said that

my remedy needs a chocolate bar, they didn’t even smile, to be honest, then they said, you have a good remedy, they immediately ask for a fur coat from us, so i... i think that this is exactly how we can, let’s say, go through this whole life together, hand in hand, of course, there will be all sorts of quarrels, there will be joys, everything, a family is a very living organism, which, yes, to finish i would like to use words, probably, golden-tongued, i really liked one of his phrases, that husband and wife are members of one big organism, members of the church. it's like an eye and a hand, when the hands hurt, the eyes cry, when the eyes cry , the hand wipes them, i would really like us to hear these words, she is golden-tongued, and really treat

each other like members of one organism, like those who need each other, husband and wife really need each other, thank you very much, there is something to to think, about the theory igor famin, svetla. feadilova, i am vladimir ligoydo, today we gathered our thoughts about the wedding, marriage, love, in general, love each other, watch us and gather your thoughts with us. hello, this is the podcast of witnesses from einstein, where we, historians. cinema natalia ryabchikova and stanislav didinsky, talk about who and how created famous, little-known, cult, forgotten soviet films. today our program is dedicated to the film, which is known under two names: zastava ilyicha and i am 20 years old. it was shot by marlen khutsiev. why

does this film have two names, how did it happen that it was filmed for about 5 years, and there are two versions of this film, we will talk about it today. so, what was. before the film ilica outposts, we need to start with this, who is marlen khutsiev? well, i would say that there were two authors who worked in tandem, these are marlen khutsiev and felix mironer, they had one coat for two, because poverty was such among students that they, as their friends recalled, went to vgik to study one by one, it was in the late forties, actually post-war moscow, here are two students who live in one room. in general, they have only one coat for two, so they go to the lecture in shifts because of the cold weather, but it is precisely this friendship that is established in those years that becomes the basis of their working relationship, first they have a joint director's

application, actually a joint diploma work, then they have a joint work as an urban planner, finally the finest hour, this is the film spring on zarechnaya street, firstly, this is one of the most famous thaw films... a symbol of thaw cinema, the thaw and that era of the sixties, this time of summer rains, spring rains, this trend is set in many ways, of course, by the film spring on zarechnaya street, with which the well-known biography of khutsiev as a director begins, after which he becomes famous, then their paths diverge, but not quite, they shoot almost simultaneously, in odessa, marlen martenovich khutsiev shoots the film two fyodors, where he makes a star. romm, vasily shukshin and on this filming he becomes a mentor to another future famous director.