her life, all episodes of the triggers podcast can be found on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. hello, i am pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a podcast space stories. today my guest is igor vladimirovich barmin. advisor to the general director of zinc, igor vladimirov. let's decipher at the beginning, what is zinc? this is a joint-stock company, which is called the center for the operation of ground-based space infrastructure facilities. i know that you have been in the space industry for decades. your father, vladimir pavlovich barmin, is the founder of soviet cosmonautics, it was he who invented created the launch complex for the rocket, which at the beginning launched.

i entered the moscow higher technical school named after baumin, which my father graduated from, because from the very beginning i thought about becoming an engineer, in 1965 i actually came to the design bureau, power engineering, to do my diploma, that's right from the fall...

to him until december 1946 we were in germany and willy-nilly i met all the future founding fathers space technology and this acquaintance continued in the future, because they were quite friendly with each other and went to each other's family holidays, that 's why you can say these names, yes of course, it's korolev, chalamey with michal kuzmich yangel, well, in principle, with all the founders of our rockets and space technology in the country. sometimes they vacationed together with their families, and i remember our vacation in san-antoria nizhny ariana, in 1958 the korolev, peryugin, and bryemyan families vacationed together there in

sanatoriums, and i remember when one evening, we went up to the upper terrace of the building, and sergei pavlovich, looking at the starry sky, told me about the plans that had matured in his head at that time. you once said that he greeted you in an interesting way, well, sergei palovich, yes, he had.

a ceremonial entry on tanks into the museum, of course, there was nothing like that, that is, it has already become overgrown, yes, an incident that does not correspond to reality, but the thing was that immediately after the end of the war, various groups of specialists to study german military equipment. my father, led by a very large group of soviet engineers, flew to europe, and at first they were based in czechoslovakia. and it was in prague that the event you are talking about took place. so, the thing is that... information came from the czech communists that some documentation was stored in one of the pavilions on the territory of the landing complex on the outskirts of prague, so our command turned to the czech, czechoslovak authorities, at

that moment they were like our allies, but the answer we received, our specialists, that is, that these are cartographic materials related to the territory of czechoslovakia and of no interest to the soviet authorities, the answer did not satisfy our engineers, first of all, then my father, as the leader of the group, turned to the commandant of the city of prague, general zhadov, who allocated him a group of armed officers, these officers were planted in velesy, they drove to the territory of this exhibition and stood in a cordon near this very pavilion, the pavilion was opened, the boxes were also opened with the participation of the czechoslovak authorities, these boxes contained a complete

set of the military-technical archive of germany, that is, all the documentation on german military equipment, on everything, on everything, that's it... the archive itself was sent to the soviet union by a special train to study all the documentation already on the territory of the soviet union, and the czech authorities, correcting the awkward situation, attached a wagon with co-besident beer to this train as a gift, to stalin, i wonder, do you know everything about the cosmodromes, what factors?

the cosmodrome is supposed to be located, certainly not far from some main railway lines, from highways, on the territory of the cosmodrome it is necessary to have one or more airfields. the cosmodrome must be provided with electricity, and preferably from several power sources, in order to ensure a guaranteed power supply to all objects. certainly. the cosmodrome must have a developed network of automobiles and railways, which connects all the objects of the cosmodrome, it must be provided water supply, sewerage, there should be a residential city in the cosmodrome, where

the cosmodrome workers and their families live, and the infrastructure should be developed so that there are also educational institutions. storage, cultural objects, therefore the cosmodrome as a whole is a rather complex and capacious object in terms of its purpose. how are cosmodrome locations chosen? well, it is desirable that this cosmodrome be low-latitude, closer to the equator, so that linear speed can still be used.

8°, unfortunately, russia does not have low-latitude territories, our new eastern one is 51.7°, 51.6, although. this is the southern part of the country, well , the southern part of the country, but unfortunately, from the point of view of energy, it is of course much inferior to the possibilities of launching from equatorial cosmodromes, even worse in this sense from the point of view of energy, the position of our second cosmodrome or the first, more precisely, the state training cosmodrome plesetsk, it has a latitude of approximately 63° north spherical, we continue our conversation. about cosmodromes with igor vladimirovich bormin. you personally participated in choosing the site for the construction of vostochny? why exactly in

this place? you know that in 1991, when the soviet union unfortunately collapsed, the largest and most widely used cosmodrome balkanur ended up on the territory of a friendly, but different state. of course, in the interests of the national economy , the country's defense capability, and... science, the state must have its own capabilities for launching any useful cargo from its own spaceports. in this sense, plesensk's capabilities are quite limited in terms of energy , and therefore a decision was made to build a new spaceport. a commission was created, which included representatives of both roscosmos and the ministry of defense, which considered various possible options for the location of the new spaceport. five possible locations were selected for consideration, among them, by the way,

the possibility of reviving the kapustin test site as a spaceport, from which, in fact, test work began in the missile forces, and then it was used as a cosmodrome, although, unfortunately, it is located, as you know,

above industrial facilities, this imposes certain restrictions on the capabilities of these

launch sites, therefore, of the five points that were initially considered for the selection of a new promising, that is , russian cosmodrome, two points were already considered for detailed analysis, one of them is in the svobodinsky district, where the twenty-seventh was previously located. rather bad climatic conditions, there is almost half of the year non-flying

weather, therefore, in the end, the commission, taking into account all aspects of the consideration of the problem, chose the location of the vostochny cosmodrome, in fact, on the territory of the former free cosmodrome, and where the city of solkovsky is now located, well and now... the future space activities of our country will be largely connected with this cosmodrome. unfortunately, our time is coming to an end, today i have a guest - igor vladimirovich barmin, advisor to the general director of zinka, i am anton shkaplerov, this was a podcast space stories, i am larisa guzeeva and let's get married, good afternoon, today the bride is natalia, maria and marina, and

our groom is alexander, alexander is 57 years old, as soon as his wife became a vegetarian, she began to show the habits of an aggressive predator. alexander, a former owner of a tourism business. she has been working as a nanny for 6 years, takes in difficult children and teenagers, lives in krasnodar, runs marathons and collects irons, is proud of having awards for social activities and a medal of parental glory. alexander will not enter into a serious relationship with the owner of a fiery character, overprotective syndrome and a large. number of rings on her fingers, he will marry an affectionate, kind woman with burning eyes, who respects her body and is not embarrassed by wrinkles. hello, alexander, good afternoon, by the way, you are dressed very interestingly, yes, beautifully, tastefully, here is this bow tie, you have such a rare profession for a man, a nanny, in some

at that moment i saw around me a lot of single women who were raising children. well, look at what is happening now: single mothers are raising boys, in kindergartens the teachers are women, in schools the teachers are women, our boys are being raised by women, and then women are surprised, well, where are the strong men, it has always been there, it was before the revolution, after the revolution, before the war, after the war, women have always been involved in raising children, teachers, as a rule, nurses, women. a man earned money, well, occasionally he would iron heads, kick them there will give, for bad, and i can argue with you, just remember the tsarist times, when a tutor was hired for a boy, a man, that is, a man would teach him to ride a horse, we are not talking about noble families about tutors,

it is true, it was still, well, it was not a high percentage, who could afford it , unfortunately so, but nevertheless my... with this heart and warm everyone, warm, well, and children can also be nourished, great, you have a camp, like a pioneer camp, right, yes, i have a camp in the summer, i have a private house, a large territory, 28 acres of land, on where i take children, well, from two to four

children, a camp, well, a camp, yes, to teach them all the male responsibilities, they are all without fatherhood, they hire me. as a rule, yes, mothers who raise, well, if there were no complaints, there were no reproaches, then well, good luck to you, let's see how you are there, as they say, seeing once is better than hearing 100 times, further, further, there, well , at least the car can drink, mom, it's warm, everything is cool, what about water? yes, yes, now children sit mostly on their phones, it's very a serious problem of our time, and he is such a good guy, he teaches them to work. and medelsonchik, please tell me, are there any statistics on the current demand for male nannies, or are women still a priority? women really are a priority, on nanny recruitment sites less than

1% are men, but at the same time, men's services are not... yes, at some point my wife became interested in vegetarianism and, of course, her children supported her in this direction and her life changed dramatically, yes, my life changed dramatically, but they also became crashnoids, this is in addition to everything, boy, yes, my boy was 17 years old when he fell under the influence of the krishnaites, he began to spend the night in the temple, i know that you pulled him out of there, that you saved him, you are really very grateful for this, such an interesting story, so i called the local police officer, asked him to come to the temple, the local police officer turned out to be a good one, he is a smart policeman , that is, he took it normally, like a man, and we decided peacefully and had a son, returned him to the family,

he no longer avoided, no, i no longer allowed this, and where was my mother looking, grass ate, or what at that time, yes, of course, vegetarianism it radically changes a person's worldview, i don't understand at all, we like to eat meat, how yes, how can we live without meat, without our dumplings, firstly, they are aggressive, by the way, a few years ago we had a woman here with many children, a vegetarian, remember, gray hair , no teeth, so she somehow got a lot of children into her family and they bring us some gifts, there was some food here, you can't imagine, boys, when we called them, one was about five years old, the other about six, i will never forget in my life how he ate, and with what angry eyes she looked at him, you can't, it was so scary, we asked the girls, while we were sitting here with her, that she...

herring under a fur coat, olivier salad, meat and they we come to visit my brother, and he starts to have his own verpetina, how can you eat carrion, yes we stop visiting, we stop, we had you they stop inviting you, you come only without... in my opinion, if you don't want to eat meat, but you don't eat it, yes, but he forces another, this is even more so an adult, a man, and who do you think directed her to this vegetarianism, who was her teacher? who and where did she go astray? and now the internet teaches us everything, a bunch of psychologists, yes oh yes, our favorite topic with the rose coaches, who yes, and you

alexander, were you eating on the side? well , imagine, at some point i was even forbidden to cook, because the smell of meat was spreading throughout the apartment, and i would arrive from a difficult flight, stop at the supermarket, get some grilled chicken, eat it in the bus parking lot and come home, when i had nothing left... i had to, oh, in general, a nightmare, of course, i had hard physical work, i was a driver of a tourist bus, well, you just couldn't eat only grass, you can't get full, probably, yes, you'll have to feed him, natasha, that's it, we'll feed him, yes, we'll cook him some jellied meat, and tell me, alexander, did this story somehow affect her libido, well, of course, a person goes to bed only when there is a common interest, when this feeling of reciprocity, no, she had the strength, she had the strength, and she had the strength, believe me me, they eat women, they eat peas, no, i will never forget this story, i have probably told it to everyone 100 times, once we were at some banquet at a festival with

dzhigurda, this was when i was still young, nimble , he was into veganism, raw food, i say, but what about these male strengths, strength-that is, he says, he has strength, yes, no desire, well yes, in general, everything was leading to you breaking up, yes, at some point i started to... work a lot, so as to come home less, less and less, bought apartment, moved there, and lived in my apartment for 2-3 days of the first week, and then more and more, in the end we separated and stayed in the apartment, suffered with my wife, if there are any in the parking lots, home, when you don’t want to go, it’s very hard, you collect irons, old ones, for what purpose do you need them, i was involved in the tourism business and... at some point i started bringing my old rusty coal irons from my trips, i restored them, and made new handles, today i have the largest collection in the south of russia

utyagov. oh, let's see what kind of utyagov you have there. good afternoon, my name is alexander, you can see my collection of utyagov here. today it has more than 120 items. i brought the irons from my travels around the krasnodar region. initially, they were in this condition, rusty, i found them in barns, half-ruined houses, there are very valuable, very expensive irons, for example, this utyagov with a cockerel from 1885, here is the clamp for it, the artel, manufacturers, different cities. i must say that in those days the iron acquired great value, you could exchange a cow for it. flower shops

are ready to buy my entire collection, the thing is that cacti grow very well in such iron pots, to form their spines, leaves, they need metal, they get century-old metal from the soil, such beautiful specimens, today i will replant my cactus, thank you, i wonder why he needs so many irons? it seems to me that he has some kind of unhealthy attitude towards ironing things, medelson, please tell me, is there a name, like this... how is it for such a thing collecting, yes, there is an official word, collecting irons is called presophilia, so alexander is a presophile, the word is so-so, but the hobby is good, the lack of love for the wife and love for irons, alexander, so, at your age, different wives

are needed, someone needs it for joy. someone has not grown up, you need a wife-like-minded assistant, first of all, why? because you are developing a kindergarten, a camp and so on, moreover, you have a private house, you yourself wrote in the questionnaire that it is difficult for you, therefore, of course, you need a woman who will move in with you, will help you with this, and the most ideal thing would be if she had some kind of... specialized education or profession that is related to children, if she also helped you here somewhere, 100 out of 100, sign under each letter, you need your comrade-in-arms, meet the first brides,

well, come in, and did not have from each other's beauty! natalia, 52 years old, physical education teacher at a private school, lives in the city of orel, loves to go hiking, ride horses participate in charity runs, dreams of swimming in geysers and... spending the night in a yurt, warns that at home she knows how to turn off the teacher. as soon as natalia and her lovers realized that not all ages are submissive to love, the decision to break up became mutual. hopes that she will find harmony with alexander. hello, hello. in my opinion, you added about 20 years to yourself . that is, students probably fall in love with you, especially when they first arrived, there were more before, such a figure, listen, thank you.

such height, i really liked natalya, it seems to me that this is not an ideal couple, to be honest, it is the first time i see such a beautiful athlete, and what is that bag you have there , it is tangerine jam, yeah, oh, thank you, what a beauty and alexander to you too, these are just such bitches, yes tangerines , this is for you, natasha, it is very beautiful, it is very exquisite, just very exquisite.

we began to live and live well, we thought that we would quickly run away, i have a daughter, i already had one by that time, yes, yes, well, and we thought, why does the boy need it yet, let him have fun, well that's why i stopped, it's enough for me, it turns out a little less than 4 years, and how old was he at that time when he somewhere started dating 24, well already big, yes, yes, i was 38 then, i'm not surprised that her man was 14 years younger, because she's a beauty, she's 52. i would n't give her more than 35 years, where did he go then? we had a hard time with employment, he always worked, but our expenses did not match the requests, did not match, yes, well let it be so, and he received an offer worthy of him engineer, so we decided that we had to accept him, we didn't have to travel far, it was originally that we didn't plan, that is , we were moving away, well, to leave is

to die a little. "we were still on the phones for some time, and then, and then the hormone, a young man, someone got busy, well, even with my recommendation it was, i tell him, try on the site. try, holy woman, holy it worked out, well and to me it tells that this is a woman without restrictions, that's it, well great, it's scary to bring such a one into the house, to work hard, at all the boys will fall in love with her, all the neighbors, all the teachers, all the colleagues, she suits you very well, i 'll read it right away, get ahead of your questions, she loves to make jam, cook, by the way, loves cleanliness, rides a bike, skis, skates, horses, snowboarding and something else connected with winter, she loves to organize hikes, mountain, water, skiing, cycling, hiking, oh, it seems to me, she's too good for that, wait, wait, let's do this, are you ready to move in with alexander? i was in krasnodar,

it's luxurious there, the sea is just a stone's throw away, you need to go to him, you just understand, i think our children will be fine there, grandchildren, yes, kuban, that's it, it's 120 km to the sea, we have 2 hours and you're at the sea, then look, he doesn't drink, but he's not lazy. he doesn't play consoles, sports, look, he's lean, he loves children, well, okay, that's it, otherwise we'll jinx it, show us a surprise, i'd like to invite you so that we can change, she 'll probably show us some exercises now, i think, or some kind of exercise, she's confused, she's so confused, she's so confused, and what is it, i don't know, she's like that cool, cool, funny, lively, girls, i can't forgive myself, can i come up to you, hug you.

fire, did you take him as a child or something? he was 28, and i was 45, i saw him, i thought, he's good, he fed me borscht, i know how to lure him, aspic, borscht, but we all know how to lure children, what to lure children with, when we started living with him, i said, i'm old, why do you need to take on such responsibility, and he says to me, what are you, a chicken, should i cook for you or something, i think, oh well, he won't cook, oh well, oh well, what's the matter natasha, natasha?

very wonderful, yes, yes, natasha is gorgeous, listen, they go well with each other, by the way, i said right away, it will be a surprise, yes, we will work on coordination now, legs

together, hands together, one, hands to the sides, legs together, two, one, and this is the age one, let's go, stand together, and where are the age ones, three, four, one, two, one, two. one two oh, look, good , wonderful, next, legs together, hands, one, look, two hands behind the head, two, three apart, four to the shoulders and 1, 2, 3, 4, 2, 3, what a real good girl, wonderful, well done, we've warmed up, now we can do strength training, burpees, so, clap, push-up squat, push-up lying down, push-up squat, jump, here are the happy students, now one more time, 34, one, two, three!