how things are going for them, although from my point of view maringov is lucky, because he was not repressed, he earned literary income, which is actually quite a lot, when he moved from kirochnaya to borodinskaya, and this is in st. petersburg, yes, yes, the next tenants who moved in - into an apartment, yes, they left a memory later that they move in there, and the front door ... has some crazy number of locks, about 10, chains, is this some kind of paranoia, well, these are the thirties, this is stalin's terror, and moringov is serious feared for his life, and he was not the only one, he , in my opinion, mentioned mandelstam's poems in his plays, yes, he somehow hid them there, so to speak, yes, yes, yes, he wrote absolutely socialist realist plays, but with such a double-triple bottom, he could his texts.

which do not give me peace, so paradoxical, because she is cheerful, she somehow tastes it on the one hand, candy, like candy, she tastes it, at the same time she is dying seriously, she is probably still experiencing incredible torment, because she is undergoing an operation, and there it says that they don't give her anesthesia, that is, can you imagine, it's a spinal surgery, how painful it is, she keeps her...

actually , she plays death in this pose until the end, by the way, there is a trick there, or something, the hero runs up, yes, he hurries to her to save her, and he runs up, and it says that she missed, and here we, the reader, breathe out, okay, she missed, she won't die, yes, then she dies anyway, well, even when she calls, you think that it's a joke, yes, a joke, it turns out that it's not, why is this the heroine is sympathetic, here she takes money, for example, she takes 15. dollars for the night, yes from this merchant, it's like anastasia filippovna, she took it, threw it into the fire, that is , it enchants such, enchants, it seems to me, any person such a character, this is not a woman, but just some kind of this very tornado, but she is not selfish, this is precisely the style, this is a gesture, they come to a charity lottery and she.

buys, actually, bothers all the swindlers wanted vases, then she didn't want these vases when she approached them, there is - on this fair, yes, with these vases, and a completely amazing episode, when this full-hipped woman, on the phone, says her phone number, yes, and dokuchaev does not understand, does not understand at all what olga is doing, she explains to him, yes, remember, this lady has such-and-such a phone number, such-and-such a number... such-and-such dakuchaev, please, hear me, this lady has exactly such a phone number, but she mocks blue olga, mocks and also, look, what faith in her feminine strength, it's amazing, it seems to me, she is real, well, here is a pamphlet, she even a dominatrix, that is, she humiliates men so easily and naturally that men are completely subdued by this and generally obey the rules that olga dictates to them, she doesn’t even... care that vladimir has

taken a mistress, this pear, on the contrary, she pushes him in every way, in every way , look at those calves, as something is written there, what legs, yes, but it seems to me that he is going to this morphusha, as ekaterina correctly noted, because olga told him: go to this morphusha, how can you not appreciate, here are her such beautiful full legs, and he, in fact, does it also like a puppet, isn't it, yes, to marry, she's like, she 's marrying him wonderfully, this year they won't drown me, how good it is that you proposed to me, something like that, well, that they will sleep together, then she really says: well, no

, yes, in the room, no matter how they tried to drown, nothing worked, it was very cold, then they moved the desk into the bathroom, and locked themselves there, when they had already written, all this needs to be transferred to printed text, yes, and they asked a typist friend to come and type it all up, and then they realized, well, there's a lady, yes, also like that in the body, it's cold, don't think anything bad, right? she'll lie down in bed for 15-20 minutes to warm this bed with her body, so that later they would lie down not in cold linen, but already warmed up. this girl walked and typed, lay, warmed the bed for them and left. and so for several days, and then she

disappeared, and yesenin moringov searched for her for a long time in moscow, well, what's going on? yeah, it's normal communicated, worked normally, paid regularly. a couple of months later they find her, ask, what, why? she says: well, i thought you were poets, and you are monks? they offended her not by paying attention, of course, you asked about the life of boringof, about how much he coincides with his heroes, is this a cynical approach or not, it seems to me, it seems to me, marinkov is a very kind person, he is very attentive to the heroes, and in order to be so attentive so... well, let's say, to show their feelings in detail and convincingly, he still has to be, well merciful, you need to see a person in another, yes, and he does not judge them at all, that is , he gives people freedom to be who they want to be, this is very cool, and this is very

unusual, and cynics in this sense are such, well , a unique novel too, ekaterina, would you agree, for example, this story? i do not understand this, because the plot itself, well , if you take, well, this plot, the love triangle was described very much in general. well, the plot itself is dramatic comedians, yes there is colambino, yes pierrot and harlequin loved this business, yes, but comedy delarte, yes of course, well it just seems to me that firstly fools are not cynics, people

are smart, in general all these people are all curious, they are all very bright, bright characters are very different and this is probably what attracts everyone. i think, but i don’t know how to translate this into the language of drama, the way this novel is written, and the most valuable thing for me is the language, well i agree that the language is amazing, it is unique, it is impossible to repeat it, and maringov is not like anyone, neither in poetry nor in prose, as we understand, at the same time i am surprised that maringov wrote well dozens plays of all kinds, he had some successful ones, for example, the jester of the camp and... for the birth of a poet, yes, they were staged at the time, they were a great success, the play "the golden hoop", which he wrote together with mikhail kazakov, sr., the father of the famous actor, yes, a large drama theater opened in moscow, yes, that is, he as

a playwright, well, he took place, yes, he had everything in this regard, and after his death, in our time. time, yes, already as if, if you lay out the timeline, yes, it turns out that cynics most often, paradoxically, paradoxically, you never know, yes, which of your works will sound in time, then, paradoxically, thank you very much for the interesting conversation, it was a must-read podcast, i am glaina batnikova, director, writer, my guests were director, writer ekaterina dvegubskaya and oleg demidov, literary scholar. poet, critic, we talked about anatoly moringov's novel cynics. i am larisa guzeeva and so let

's get married. good afternoon. today the bride is tatyana, mila and larisa. and the groom is with us. he left his wife when he realized that he could not cope with her. alcohol addiction. sergey, deputy general director of a network of driving schools, lives in the northern capital, is proud of the fact that he has traveled to almost all the countries of the world, warns that he has adopted his own granddaughter, dreams of rising into the sky on a paraglider. sergey will not get along with a thin, easily accessible person who will touch his things without permission. the woman of his dreams should have an education, a sparkle in her eyes, and also be able to keep secrets, laugh at stupid things and rejoice. his hug,

hello, hello, well, in general, i a man like - i generally like bald women, remember how in zhvanetsky alcohol in small doses is harmless in any quantity, but i understand that this is not about your wife, there were quantities, probably, well, everything is relative, everything depends on the situation, and now we are right now, like if you give us flowers, we will immediately... yes, i will find out everything at once. thank you very much. thank you. why do such men, and pleasant, stately ones, always get women with addictions? well, this is tanchik's fate. have you tried talking harshly? well, i myself am not a supporter violence, i always try to convince, because for this we kind of know how to communicate, for this language is given to a person, but in my understanding, well no, anything can happen.

that i don’t care, your fate, the child is in danger, because mom likes to eat, i’ll send you forcibly to get treatment, because if you consider this, yes, cruelty, naturally there were such conversations, yes, but in response she told me, like, well, i kind of... i even set her conditions that if you don’t stop doing this, i’ll be forced to just break up, because i’m not for this he created a family, and the child with her, right, well, how does he live, with her parents, for example, talk, well, the parents, they were like the initiators and were all this tax, what, that's it, that everything was serious there, for me alcoholism is completely unacceptable, especially in front of a child, it's terrible, one fine day, yes, i also told her very... seriously, well , apparently it didn't get through, now it's hard

to remember the tears in my eyes, because well, it was hard to do, but i was forced to do it, because the situation was like that, yes, i i came home, excuse me, yes, well, and the child is alone, i say, wait, i have tears in my eyes, yes, excuse me, yes, girl, and where is mom? oh, it's okay, seryozha, we understand, we are all people, i'll calm down now, it's just hard for me, she also died, and my wife died, the child, oh, what a, oh, what a horror, and the girl is alone, and what, tears are normal, but what is this, this is not normal, and she is not there, so they are together,

together with her husband, at the end of august, well, i'm taking my daughter, no, when you came, the wife is not there, but the small child, well, now i will calm down, she runs, i say, where's mom, i don't know, she says, she left yesterday, i say, how did she leave, and how old was the child, and she was seven or eight years old, she was little, yes, excuse me, yes, here , uh, where did mom go, how did she leave, she says, i call, no way, i was looking for her for five days, then someone called me, he says, here you go... come, take your beauty, i arrive, she 's lying there in all her eva costume, so useless, of course i put her on my shoulder, carried her out, well then the next day of course i talked to her, well we talked, we talked, okay, and somehow one fine day i'm also walking home from work, i call, i say what to buy for home, to eat this and that, and then again, and i'm so

tired of it, to be honest, yes, even after you... well, you brought her home, it should have been, it should have been, but i was hoping for all this, after all, what did i create a family for, a nightmare, oh, of course, it's terrible when a woman drinks all this in front of a child, but i think that a man can only really allow himself such emotions, seryozha, and you left the girl, your daughter, with this alcoholic or with yourself took - when i left, no, well , for some reason the court didn't give me back with my mother, they left her with her mother for some reason. here are men's tears - this generally says that the person is just real, so

alive, so alive, kind, tell me, what happened, why did you adopt a granddaughter? they adopted literally in august, she and her husband went to crimea to ride in the mountains, i don't know , to travel, and i had a little one, what happened, well, they both fell to their deaths, both, what a terrible fate, lord, yes, well, where would i live in an orphanage, you won't, no, of course not, what are you talking about, what orphanage and how many? 10, that is, today we should not only look for a wife for you, but also , as it were, the mother of your daughter, well, she is your daughter according to the documents, so dad calls and says, can i call you, i say, of course, seryozha, of course, we will look today

, so that you can warm up and oh, yes, that's it. it worked out, i say, well, we are all, as they say, alive, well, someone earlier, someone later, well, what now, i say, life doesn't end, tell me, is your ex alive, well, where to go, you communicate, well why did she tell me, she says, i say, how are we going to solve the issue, she says, you have a ton of money, she says, adopt yourself, that's it, well

she still drinks, for women, it seems to me, it's hard, to get out of this... this situation , well i mean alcohol for women - it's apparently a disease, but i myself don't drink, i don't smoke, i don't know, they always tell me, are you sick or something? i say, well i don't want to eat and that's right, because we were doing great, you need it and health, and then you, well, antics, i read your profile too, i did some pranks when i was young, so what else could i do as a tragicom for that? no, and if a woman has children, well , what can she do, adopt a granddaughter, naturally, her daughter died, what else can she do, yes, yes, i agree with you, sveta, well, your husband is disabled, would you leave him, or what? no, you warn your future

spouse in the questionnaire that you love freedom like the gypsies, is that it? what is that? well, what is freedom like the gypsies? now i'll explain to you, i have a woman, yes, who we have in common, something, yes, i say, let's do it this way, we sit down at a round table, and i say, there's a desire to go somewhere to relax, there, well, to see the sea, or to fly to cuba, well, uh, the child flies, she really likes it, oh, don't talk about children, otherwise i... cry, remember, cry, that's the girl's destiny, that's why i say, we took each other's hands and flew. well, together, and not like i'll walk there, and you go there, that's not necessary at all, then it's normal for you, you're just confusing me like a gypsy, and i thought that you

by themselves, she by herself, it's not like i'll be there, stay at home, and you take the child and go wherever you want, everything is correct, meet the first news, come on in. volleyball. what have you never seen before? channel one cup, live broadcasts on weekends on channel one. the best of all, the premiere is on saturday on

channel one. sergey, yes, i'm glad to see you, and i, and are you ready to spend romantic evenings by the fireplace and listen to my poems, with pleasure, i also write poems, great, we will always have something to talk about, yes, this is for you, thank you, i really nice to meet you, what's your name, tatyana, yes, my name is sergey, nice to meet you. tatyana, 48, owner of a guest house on the black sea coast, writes poetry, dreams of helping

the elderly, is proud that she did not allow the raiders to take away her business, warns that she will not tolerate a hysterical couch expert next to her. tatyana accepted her mother-in-law's husband on her territory, after a while she was beaten by both of them, hoping that sergey will become her protector. hello, what is so special, right in the calf, look, a star, listen, it's just hair-raising, you are the owner of a guest house, yes, a beauty, a wonderful age, well-groomed, with good taste, fell in love so much that you took her into your territory, yes, of course, it was.

yourself, and your husband, his girl, daughter, she was, and 6 years old, in my opinion, at that age, and his mother, well, how should they behave decently, otherwise it was, yes tell me, did not get along with the mother-in-law right away, you know, no, i did not understand all this right away, and what happened i met her only on the day of our. wedding with him, and unfortunately, i understand very well your tragedies that you had in your life, sergey, because my sister elena

got into such a catastrophe on the second day of my wedding , and i got goosebumps, at that moment we all thought that we would lose her, i feel sorry for her , of course, i feel sorry, wait, i don’t feel sorry for anything , i feel sorry for her, look how she is, she ’s like this, she’s okay, i don’t feel sorry, you know, why? why? well, because you talk more, you, as if you were a bride, i’m silent, i’m silent, i’m not a bride, after an accident a person always shows up, and as it turned out, i was probably more interesting, as a person coming from another city, just as a woman, where can i live, it turns out, at that time our dad held a police position at that time. and accordingly people needed a residence permit, it was necessary to settle on the black sea coast, i also lived in black for a long time, something she is not tanned enough, no, for

the black sea. well, maybe because the sun is not so useful, she just got into a fight with you, because of what? yes, you know, but since my sister was bedridden, mom was with her almost always, dad, although he worked in such a position, but we earned very little, a very big burden fell on me, uh, it happened in march already in the summer the whole season, since i live by the sea, there were retail outlets, we took, there was a real chain of retail outlets, we... his mother for some reason considered it possible to tell me: tatyana, if you want to live with my son, you will bring all the money here, and i will distribute it, where and how. and you didn’t say, but with dill, so it’s easier to breathe. larisa, that ’s why i, well, i simply adore you, i

said, well... well, about the same, she got into a fight with you, yes, he held you down, she beat you up, can you imagine, these are my emotions, we got into a squabble, a verbal one, then a physical one, she started screaming, quickly hold her down, stop her, she, he grabbed me, she continued to beat me up, well, in general, it was some kind of scene, i don’t even want to remember it now, and it’s so, even now it seems to me that it wasn’t about me. for me , in general, in relationships between people, not only beatings, but even harsh words are absolutely unacceptable, how could she endure all this, i can't imagine, there was another situation, also because i was very busy, he had some other desires for other women, and once, when it was autumn, and i was standing behind the counter of a ba... at

that moment, and one of my friends came up to me and said: tanyusha, you're here, i 'm working, and what, yours is there, i mean, it can't be, of course, i didn't show it, for me it was so humiliating, but the most interesting thing is that literally 2 days later, somewhere this special one came to me, in establishment, with such a proud look, and why did you come to sort things out? to look, probably, to look, just, some kind of horror, he also had a mistress, mom holds, he beats, and he still has a mistress, and what are you, you know, a plan matured in me, i was in such pain, i wanted to do something, to stand up for myself, i told my waitress that i would discuss this team myself, they ordered coffee,

something else, i... prepared it all on a tray, bring it to the table, in general, and pour the coffee, as if by accident, on her white blouse, then i suggest, i apologize, of course, and i suggest that she go into the room where there are sinks, you know, there were professional big ones from the soviet era, in one there was a dish, in the other a cup, full of water, there in this sink i bathed her, but at the same time her first words were, you know what, tanya, it’s not my fault, he’s pestering me himself, i say, and i didn’t ask you at all, i ’ve always dreamed of doing the same, but still it’s not my thing, but those who can do exactly as she did, physically avenge themselves, i honestly admire, but when you kicked them out, they... took everything out of

your apartment, even twisted the handles, it was awful, tell me, how long did this marriage last, it didn't even last 2 years, well , it's a lesson for life, do you like sergey, you know, while i was sitting in the room, i watched you, sergey, and i am impressed by your strength, and the way you show it, because in fact only a person... can show such emotional behavior, look, tanechka, and also, if everything works out for you, you will have a daughter together, a ten-year-old, such a fox, damn, she such, oh, how emotional you are, at the same time strong, such, show a surprise, sorry, i got so excited, the suit is fire.

i like the suit, i don’t like that it’s a leopard, i just don’t really like leopards, i’m a poetess and a songwriter, and today i want to present a poem that, in my opinion, can really reflect your character, sergey, in fact i’m very worried, and i’ll be peeping,

in principle i can even be a leprechaun, only fantasy, on friday on the first, this city is called the gates of the north, here is preserved a special, unique way of life, which is dictated by difficult climatic conditions, many come to this city to see the famous polar lights, we are in arkhangelsk, friends! the most important thing for a pomor is to be practical. what kind of wood is preferable for building a hut? the kind of wood that grows. and why did they add salt? in principle, our region was a salt industry, so they added it everywhere. my grandmother

adds salt to regular coffee, even to instant coffee, she says it tastes better that way, yes our way. we wash the smelt, we salt it a little, we chop the onion, and we put it in there too, let's take some bread and dip it, dip it, and how delicious it will be in... our way, delicious, delicious, friends, very delicious, the life of our own, the premiere, on sunday on the first, i am the one who ignited the desire for passion, inspired great deeds, with me you will show yourself in life, man, i have penetrated you, my image is now forever for you, in my songs it remains with you, and the secret power in me is so strong,

love has arisen between us, with you i feel the power in myself, with you. we will conquer tops, man, you are different, i will tell you, because i do not need the middle, with you i am ready to ascend to the throne, with you, after you i, saint, will allow myself, i love so passionately. man, you are of a strong clan, thank you, elena, take the flowers and go into the room, thank you,

well done, it seems to me that they are very suitable for each other, they are externally assembled, both are engaged in business, what do you say, how ... you tatyana, strength, strength, well, if the first bride, i do not know, it will be more difficult for the second, well, we'll see, well , in general, here is the puzzle, the puzzle came together in all relationships, though and dimples like mine, all no, all she will give her extra energy to your granddaughter, here to play the guitar and sing and arrange children's evenings, tanya i can tell you that it will be very difficult for him now. because you raised the bar, wow, what, sergey, and do you write these poems? i write, really, well i write how, but tell me, please, if, for example,