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analysis, or they are already starting to do more in-depth, vaccine, genetics, and umbilical cord blood, rather yes, if possible, and maybe it would even be worth expanding someday, well, in the end, yes, well, and in this way we ensured that our children will be healthy, as far as possible, that's ...
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will affect their intellectual abilities, it's like talent, yes, which can be buried in the ground, and which can be put to use, well, kids, when if we are talking about very small children, it is still too early for them to play tennis or do something like that, there, as it were, it is not clear, they, they probably can do everything, it is a question of what attention should be focused on, that is, are there any ways to develop them at all, to create better conditions for them in the future so that they can already follow their path, it is inherent in a person.
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all the transcendental potentials are simply filtered out, what does this mean in russian, it means, for example, that a newborn child can wake up from the mother's voice, quiet, gentle, which is addressed to her, at the same time, if a cannon fire occurs, he will not will wake up, because this structure will cut off all excessive impulses, and the child is simply programmed for a small number of stimuli that are close to him, important, and because you know, like another legend, on the topic of how a child does not see at birth, when they are confused with blind puppies and kittens, they, in my opinion, i remember, they do not focus, it feels like they do not focus their gaze on you, they somehow look through a little, somewhere at the sky, no, they focus, they just have an optimal focus for vision - it is 30-40 cm, and these 30-40 cm, because the mother's face during breastfeeding is located just at...
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all newborns were studied, again, and they distinguish, well , in fact, schematic images of the human face, the so-called emoticons, yes, that is, smiles, there are dissatisfied facial expressions, this is what they understand, they react to this vegetatively, in fact , everything in a child is aimed precisely at survival, therefore - the child can move a little and the smallest newborns on the mother's chest for in order to achieve... as it should be, not
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to speed up, well, unfortunately, to slow down, if some disease has occurred, it is possible, but precisely to force it, and so that, like the hero in the fairy tale, in a year he went through all the stages and became three, 33 years old, on the contrary, he lay on the stove, by the way, but there are those who did not have time.
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from the worlds, then nothing needs to be done, that is, it really itself, well , by evolution, nature, whoever, is laid down so that we all go through a common path of development, but the results are still different, because in different they work. you see, specially theatrical performances, maybe there is no point, you need to communicate with the child, you need to talk to the child, you need to put on really right music for the child, classical music has a beneficial effect on cognitive abilities on interneuronal connections, this is all completely proven, and there is a separate, so to speak, even direction, music therapy for children specifically for children, for newborn children for...
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frequency there, an exhaust hood, a vacuum cleaner, turn on the water, maybe the father's voice, uh, by the way speaking, there have also been studies that a man's voice has a more calming effect on a newborn child, that is, low tones, but nevertheless we are talking about the noise of a waterfall, the so-called white noise, yes, all mothers know about this concept, so in this way the child hears sounds through the abdominal wall, through the wall of the uterus, when it is in the womb. such a monotonous hum, this also calms it down, that is, in fact, all those techniques that are associated with calming the child, they are aimed as if to return inside the womb, simply that is, there is a repertoire, if we come to practical advice, that is, there is what
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you need to listen to and what you don’t need, i’m afraid that there is a repertoire, it can be found on the internet, just what we started with, when you said that there are too many sites with different information, there are probably recipes. more, at least, well, it continues to develop, it continues to develop throughout life, but at least precisely in that rebellious stage, probably, this is just normal, to then return to the classical repertoire at a more mature age and torment your children, well, in this
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case, right here, here the pediatric recommendations will change, we will all be in sync, great, thank you very much, i we obviously that the topic is very big, it suddenly occurred to me that another very important thing is actually artificial feeding, but i'm afraid we won't be able to talk about it now, when you were talking, it was very interesting about the fact that the child focuses on the mother, that in his first months lives in order to, well , to receive milk from the mother, but when we transfer him to artificial feeding, it turns out to be a completely different clincor, but you are right, konstantin, because any branch of pediatrics is like a separate universe to talk about. we can talk about this for a very long time, and if you think of some kind of series of programs about a certain subsection, i think that you and i will be able to cover it, if you see in this, it seems to me that this is precisely the mission, but, because after all, information, if needed
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doctors that you can trust, then you need to see these doctors and talk to them and hear them, yes, otherwise you will listen to something else, because a holy place is never empty, yes absolutely, so that would be great, thank you very much. thank you, this is the baden baden podcast, today we talked about pediatrics with andrey alekseevich stepanov, the chief specialist in pediatrics of the presidential executive office of the russian federation. hello, you are watching precious stories. my name is ekaterina varkan, i am a guest today we have natalia polenova, the great-granddaughter of the great russian artist vasily dmitrovich polenov, director of the polenov museum-reserve. and today we will talk about this wonderful place, i can’t even imagine how we
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can fit all this immensity into such a small amount of time that we have allotted today in our podcast, this is how it all began, my favorite story, natasha, do you know? how vasily dmitrovich polenov and his friend and student konstantin korovin rode a boat along the oka, being in a cheerful, happy, witty mood and sailed past the hill. and polenov liked the hill so much that he said that he would like to build a manor here and live, so to speak, in old age to admire the surroundings, initially, that's the most important thing that vasil dmitovich actually invested in this entire grandiose construction, in addition to building a house for convenient, comfortable housing, a large family in a beautiful place, the idea of ​​​​education was laid down, there is the museum itself, then a theater was organized, schools.
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to be in nature, and of course, a large role polenovo, initially he simply wanted that vasilyich settled in these places, played tarusa, because the family of ivan vladimirovich tsvitaev had already settled in tarusa, tarusa was already becoming some kind of epicenter of creative life, we call it. also russian barbezons, and vasily dmitrich, having found himself there, of course, wanted to be somewhere nearby, here he saw byokhov, this idea captured him, he told his wife how good it was there, and his wife natalya vasilyevna also wrote in letters that really the dream of staying in byokhovo, settling in byokhovo, living in byokhovo will come true for us, they already had their house, their workshop, natalia vasilievna's small office in their mind, that is , this whole dream. it was somehow formed for them, all that was left was to buy land,
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having looked at the estate, the ruined estate of the landowner soblukova in byokhovo, vasily dmitovich collected the funds, yes, you are right in saying that this coincided with the sale of a large canvas, who among you is without sin or christ and the sinner, this canvas is now in the russian museum in st. petersburg, the former imperial collection, indeed, even before the opening of the vernissage, the imperial family came to inspect. to make this purchase of their life to buy this estate of the ruined
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landowner sablukovy, where there was a small temporary outbuilding, where the family moved, settled, but they were attracted by the neighboring hill, the neighboring hill belonged at that time to a peasant community, buying land from a peasant community was impossible, only an exchange, here polenov is starting to change two tithes of arable land for one tithes of this bare, absolutely... head of a sandy hill, the whole estate is man-made, the architectural ensemble is man-made, polenov himself was an architect, builder, landscaper, he absolutely planned it himself took part in the construction of this architectural ensemble, well then with his children he planted a park, at first these were very small trees, so the estate was originally called baroque, why borok, because it is a small pine forest. and then already in in the soviet era it was named
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after its founder, the polenov estate, they moved there and at that moment, when they moved there, initially polenov, his idea was to create such an art academy in the open air, that is , polenov, as a child of his time absolutely, he was imbued with this spirit of creative brotherhood and unity. what we see in the vabramtsevo art circle, well and more broadly the school of the barbezons, nazarenes, pre-raphaelites and so on and vasily dmitrovich polinov, because he really grew up. as a creative person in abramtsevo, he was formed there, he was very close and friendly with ava ivanovich mamontov, he became his relative, since they were married to cousins, so his idea was, of course, not just to build himself a dacha, but for it to be a dacha with meaning, that is, so that his followers, students, his close
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friends could come there, arrange fireplace evenings there, creative. literary evenings could gather, as a result of this kind of creative conciliarity could be born some new creative idea or some artistic direction, why not, because we understand that polenova is still a representative of the school of realism, and his students are already modernism, and mikhail vasilyevich nesterov, and viktor mikhailovich vasnetsov and so on, therefore - here, probably, this transition. from the academic school of realism to the school of modernism, this probably took place in such artistic nests as polenova and abramtsevo, of course, as now, probably, there is such a fashionable word, say influencers, well, well, probably vasily dmikovich polenov in his own way at that moment became such, an opinion leader for the local community, and this
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is very important, because in this, it seems to me, was the key to preservation. his de, his uncle, in general all the relatives, who up to gavrila romanovich derzhavin, who is just about the grandmother with whom it all began, who in childhood took her grandchildren to the tambov village, and many, by the way, paintings of landscapes by vasilyevich remained from this alshanskaya, now
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we will definitely talk about her, now we will definitely talk about this, because it is really. an important milestone in the development of vasily dmitrivich polenov as a person and as a grandmother, undoubtedly not an easy one, here is her portrait vera nikolaevna vaeikova is remarkable, on the one hand , the empress's maid of honor, a grand lady, look at how amazing she is, what an appearance she has, on the other hand, a kind, sweet grandmother for her grandchildren, she was their real grandmother, this is her - left a widow at 33 years old. with three children, her husband, a hero of the war of the twelfth years, general alexey vasilyevich vaeikov died from his wounds, he participated in suvorov's crossing of the alps, in the battle of borodino and so on, he was gone, she was left a widow with three children at the age of 33, she devoted her entire life until she was 80 to
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preserving the memory of her husband , raising first her children, and then her grandchildren. we continue our conversation about polenov's fatigue. and today our guest is the director of the polenov reserve museum, natalya polenova. she is also the great-granddaughter of the great russian artist, vasily dmitrovich polenov. but enlightenment, the upbringing of the children was naturally continued by their father dmitry vasilyevich, a historian and archaeologist, and it is known that he took the children around, so to speak, small provincial towns, they visited fairs. this means that there are also sketches of the young polenov of the kremlin in novgorod and all sorts of, so to speak, stories about these trips, actually, as i understand it, from these visits to some provincial towns, the study of applied art grew a collection of ceramics, then, which is very large in the current
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polenov museum. well, i want to say that, so to speak, opening this question, this is that when vasily chulin was only 4 years old, his parents noticed his artistic talent, to tell about this, well, there is a short story about how, while on summer vacation in tsarskoe selo, the family went to the zoo and there four-year-old vasya drew an elephant in a very outstanding way, his parents immediately noticed his, so to speak, talent, artistic talent, so his parents really developed t... the granddaughter of the architect lvov, as you understand, in those days a woman did not work and could not, so to speak, to participate in public life, was engaged in raising children, but maria
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alekseevna, she herself was a good artist, as evidenced by the large collection of graphics from our museum, she took lessons from such an artist as moldavsky, plus her husband knew karl brilov well, so in general they exchanged in every possible way. collection, these are things that dmitry vasilyevich polenov, a collector, archaeologist, diplomat, because he worked in the diplomatic mission in athens for 4 years,
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brought from his business trips, from his travel, and of course, a passion for collecting, he passed on this passion for collecting to his son vasily dmitrievich, so it is not surprising that he also expanded, probably, he also traveled a lot to the east, he also expanded these egyptian collections. all sorts of unexpected things, here you go, yes, absolutely exactly like that, curiosities and incidents, that is, you go here a lot of amazing things for that time, that is, what
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is impossible to find here in the russian empire, the same vasily dmetrovich polenov, he i saw an amazing thing, like, for example, a small crocodile, you come to our museum and you see a small crocodile, tiny, where is this crocodile from, my favorite crocodile, well, wonderful. eh, it's not only your favorite crocodile, it's also the favorite crocodile of all our children's groups, and this is unexpected, yes, well, where is it from, for example, yes, in a museum, here's an art museum, in such a generally central place, absolutely right, and why is it in a central place, i'll explain, because during theatrical performances, when theatrical productions took place, then it was lowered so that with the play of light it could increase in size and depict a dragon, for example. or something like that, that is, it took part in all sorts of family celebrations and theatrical productions, but
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so it is located in the exhibition room, which is called the library, and do not forget that the stress is on the word o, so it is considered that this is an old petersburg one , namely not a library, but a library, that's what we call it, it is... and here in front of a fireplace with a family coat of arms, with family heraldry, this little crocodile, he is 13 years old, well, experts say so, in general , crocodiles live up to 300 years, well, actually , all these collections, they have always been accessible to the public, well, today it is a museum, we understand, it is accessible, but earlier, when it was generally a private house, all this was still open, these collections could be viewed, people came, exactly like that, when the house was built. vasily polenov immediately put these collections on display, there are really a lot of collections, and there are paintings, and
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archeology, and decorative and applied arts, all this is done with amazing taste, because polenov is a real aesthete, what can i say, his house speaks about this, his park speaks about this, his whole life and his destiny speaks about this, this is a man who lived according to the laws of aestheticism.
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that is, few purchased, these are friends, students, colleagues, brought in exactly as to a museum, but i want to tell the story of a purchased thing, in the largest room of the museum, the library, which we just talked about, of course, the key place is occupied by raven by viktor mikhailovich vosnitsov, this is an amazing panel, an amazing panel, painted based on the poem. desires, why am i not a bird, not a steppe raven, flying over me now, vasily dmikovich polenov saw this painting at a traveling exhibition, and he knew that viktor mikhailovich vasnetsov, his student, would definitely give it as a gift, well, he really liked it, he paid attention to this canvas, but at the same time he waited for viktor mikhailovich not to find out about it and bought
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this painting, because he said: what is the highest praise for a student would be that the teacher bought his work, this is what viktor mikhailovich vasnetsov said when he finally found out that polenov had bought this work. yes, there really is a collection of the polinov museum, it consists of, many things were donated, for example, there is a painting by abramtsevo to ilya ifim cherepina, it depicts the terrace of the abramtsevo house and a small female figure. this is the bride of vasily dmich polenov, natalya vasilyevna and kunchikova, they met in abramtsevo, they got married in abramtsevo, this is the work by repinskaya, it was a gift - to the young couple for their wedding, then many other things, for example, works by korovin, works by isaak ilyech, lvitan, works by ivan shishkin, makovsky and so on, eh, in principle, it is really so, a very good collection that polenov collected either from gifts from his students. or
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artists also had such, there was such a tradition to exchange works they liked, that is, if they liked some works, they could exchange, but vasily dmitrievich polinov decided to buy the crow to support his student, but you can say, the star of this collection is the golden autumn of christ's patent, well, polenov himself painted it, no one gave it to him, and we compare landscapes today, you can say, when you arrive, when you look, has anything changed, over there is byokhova, by the way, i think you can see it. yes, this is exactly vekhva and there is also an old wooden church, this is before the construction, polenov built the church in 1905, here was the new stone church, which we now know and which we see now on this hill. this is a podcast with precious history, and today we are talking about the museum estate vasilyevich polenov, they told about the crocodile, there is also a cannon, it is so.
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illustrated magazine bee at the rate spent exactly as a military correspondent of this sovereign emperor served in rushovsky already in the russian-turkish company in the russian- turkish company when as...
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exactly there during this turkish russian-turkish war, but we will not forget to say here that we have already said that he volunteered, then it was called the russian-serbian-montenegrin war, and actively participated in the battles has combat, deservedly military awards, and here we have them, this is the serbian takovy cross, and the serbian medal for bravery, below, as i understand it, where it is approximately.
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i remind you once again that he worked as a war correspondent, well, as we would say now, yes, he worked as a special correspondent for the illustrated magazine bee, if we take the file, yes, if we take the file for those years of this illustrated magazine bee, there are a lot of military sketches by vasily dmitrovich polenov, there are also convoys with the wounded, but this pencil sketches, there is not a single large painting in the spirit of vereshchagin, of course, well, because polenov is not a botanist artist, we do not forget that... exactly so, but these such travel ones are there, and this is a great rarity, and there are notes, vasily dmich polenov and his small travel pencil albums, they are amazing, bright, very expressive
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sketches, which formed the basis of his own reports published in the magazine bee, well, and what do i want to say about the fact that why did he not depict horror? brought a small quote, it's just, so to speak, excuse me for not reading it, here is one of the most famous statements of vasily dmitrovich polenov, but i will allow myself to quote it in full, because it answers this question. polenov
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says: "it seems to me that art should give happiness and joy, otherwise it is worth nothing." there is so much that is difficult in life, so much vulgarity and dirt, that if we are constantly showered with horrors from paintings, and it will become almost impossible to live with villainy, it seems to me that this so to speak, and there is such a life position of vasily dmitrievich polenov, therefore it is not surprising that he did not depict these horrors, why, so that the picture would give, well yes, but as they say, here is such a positivist, natasha, well, we are all intrigued, you brought to the studio, here is a samovar and fragments of a diorama, a diorama is my favorite thing when i come to polenov. you know, the first thing i do is roll diorama, diorama, what is it, how can this be explained to people who have never seen it, but first of all i, since i came from tula region, then i came with my samovar, here it is, and it is not just a samovar,
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it is a historical samovar, it generally, so to speak, accompanies several generations of the polenov family, it is believed that this is that samovar, it is generally unique, it is called a spider, we restored it a little , it was cleaned, so to speak, there are already such modern wooden parts, and it is cleaned, but it is generally a unique samovar, they say, they say that it just accompanied. during his balkan campaign, but it is definitely accompanied his son dmitry, during the first world war he participated, the son of vasily polinov also participated in the battles, for which he received the st. george cross and so on, served in the cavalry. and the fact that he was with dmitry vasilyevich during the first world
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war - that's for sure, well, they say that he also visited the balkans, he is called a spider, you see what legs he has, and this is a road trip, this is a road trip, yes, but he is generally heavy, he really is very, well, it is not easy, probably traveling with him, because that it is quite heavy, but it is such a camping, camping samovar, i thought that since i came from the tula region, then certainly, certainly i need to bring a samovar with me. natasha's dioramas, this is what it looks like, well, katya, well, in fact, i have no right to tell the secret of the diorama, i don't have, because it is completely somehow uh, well, people will see this secret, find out and this magic of this magic will disappear, when people come to see our diorama in the museum, but i brought you the original diorama, now we are showing what we show every day is a spear diorama, and this is the original diorama of vasily dmitrievich. polenov, this is a madrid painting, which, unfortunately, we do not
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show in our reduced, abridged, yes, this reduced, abridged version, which we show every day and even take to different cities, the diorama will definitely go to our exhibition in november in vladivostok, it will be, we show it, this is a fantastic thing, yes we show it and yes it is in tula, we show it during our there exhibition projects and so on. but this is the last major work of vasily in the twenties, but this is not just his painting work, katya, this is a powerful educational project, imagine, vasilyich polenov, he visited different places, he traveled a lot, he traveled around europe, he traveled to the middle east, here is the second picture - this is the nile, and it is also not shown in a shortened, shortened version, you see.
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and it is also not in this reduced shortened version, but vasily dmikovich polenov, you see, he really was a passionate traveler, a passionate collector, a wonderful artist, he was a man of renaissance scope and an intellectual, he spoke six languages, he had a huge library, he himself read in the originals, goethe, schiller, translated and so on, and of course, finding himself in...
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you can say, when he painted this diorama, this is a whole cycle of paintings of a round-the-world trip, united by the plot of a round-the-world trip, the point is that we set off from polenov and back we return to polenovo, and in 15-20 minutes, well now in 15-20 minutes, here we have naples, vesuvius and so on, in 15-20 minutes we see the whole world, we visit.
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venice, he read a huge lecture about who the venetian arches are, that is, he had the text of the diorama, of course, like a real educational lecture, but the children of the late twenties in these - a village where there was no school, no education, no light, no food, nothing, no water, well, well, nothing, in general, they sat and listened to it, spellbound, and even in in felt boots in sheepskin coats from the cold, in felt boots in sheepskin coats, polenov himself was in felt boots on a sleigh with a horse, so he harnessed the horse,
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sat in the sleigh, put his magic box with two candles there, his legs were very swollen, he was already very ill, they cut his felt boots, so he... came to this village, showed this diorama, and there is even such a story, it is true, it is also written down that at the end of such a session, when he showed all this, told all this, read the song of langella, here to a little boy came up to him and handed him a tiny homemade white bun and paid him for this show with this white bun in the hungry twenties - he paid him and said eat vasily dmitovich, thank you very much. natasha, well, you can talk about polenov at any time, without any newsworthy reasons, but here we also have an anniversary, yes, this year polenov turns 180, well, you belted yourself, came up to him, well, we are always ready for anything, of course, but i just brought the exhibition catalogue,
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which just opened in samara, why don't you ask in samara, i answer this question with one answer, and where else, well, where? magnificent collections, when the twenties were distributed, different, magnificent collections, moreover, i'll tell you, not just magnificent collections, from irkutsk for the first time, well, almost in 100 years, that is, in 1928 , a huge painting of christ and the sinner arrived at the irkutsk art gallery, well
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, a slightly reduced copy, but by and large , in general, it is more than 2 meters, one and a half by two meters and more, and christ and the sinner. it arrived in 1928 in 2024 for the first time it left the walls of the irkutsk museum in order to go to samara for the exhibition of people of light for the 180th anniversary of vasily dmitrievich polenov, here is a wonderful catalog published by the samara residents, in general, i congratulate them on this unique project, this is just an irkutsk thing, well, which in general completely repeats the imperial thing, i congratulate them on this wonderful project, this is how we open the polenov year. in the summer , some events will definitely take place at us at the estate, and there will be a festive evening in moscow, in tula, and at the end of the year, i hope , if everything goes well, we will also close the retrospective of vasily dmirych polenov in the far east in the primorsky art gallery. you watched the podcast precious stories, my name is ekaterina varkan, our guest today is natalia
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polenova, the great-granddaughter of the great russian artist vasily dmitrivich polenov and the director of the polenov museum reserve. hello, it's time on air, ekaterina andreeva is in the studio, briefly about the main thing. a new attack on the zaporizhzhya npp, ukrainian the drone dropped a charge near the power units. and kiev is preparing new provocations at russian nuclear power plants. according to sources, they are planning to use a dirty bomb.

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