started all over again, because when they asked the question, do you agree with the resolution, mikhail mikhailovich answered, i am a russian officer, i am not a scumbag, well yes, how can i agree, i understand, that is, in fact , all this started all over again, started all over again, yes, and these visitors from england simply asked them to present akhmatova and zoshchenko, because it seemed that they were not there, that they were oppressed, they were not free, they would... sing what they were ordered to sing, but zovshchenko never sang what he was ordered to sing, and we continue to talk about zoshchenko in the year of his 130th anniversary, and of course, we will always talk. today we talked with wonderful guests, this is vera mikhailovna zoshchenko, the great-granddaughter of mikhail mikhailovich and an actress, tv presenter, compiler of books, as we learned, all the best, vera mikhailovna, i am sure that we will see you again in this studio, goodbye and ... maryasanna

kotova was our guest, the head of the scientific and methodological department of the state moscow museum of mikhail afanovich bulgakov. we, too, i am sure, masha, will see each other again, talk not only about mikhail mihalovich, but also michael afanashi and other geniuses of russian literature, all the best, goodbye, our dear interlocutors, i say as always with emphasis and conviction, read with pleasure, dear friends. hello, this is a psyche podcast and we continue to open the windows of your lives to a world of light, joyful and practically problem-free, in any case, we are trying to do this. today i am working with - psychologist, doctor of cultural studies, professor andrey sberovsky. our heroine veronica.

veronica came to us with such an amazing and, maybe even a bit of a flirtatious request, behind which, however, there is depth. if i understand correctly, veronica, you are tired of being a strong, strong-willed, strict woman, tired of yourself, or are those around you tired of your strength and will? well, it happens that some people suffer from this. and let's tell us in more detail, what brought you to us? recently, since i am building a business, this happened because i had to end the relationship with my husband, and so, wait, you ended the relationship with your husband and you had to build a business, yes, exactly like that, well, in order to survive, or because you finally got the freedom to do it, exactly in order to survive, to pay off all the debts, in order to feed the children, and accordingly, so that we could live somewhere, i had to you have not one child, two children, 6-8 years old, beautiful girls. yeah, and what happened to your husband,

where did the debts come from? unfortunately, the majority of the russian population has a lot of debt, including my husband, so he did not have credit history, or rather it was very bad, i had to take on a lot of debt, he left you a rich inheritance in the form of a long time, i left, and you left, i left, so what was wrong with him, with your husband, everything was fine with him, he is a wonderful expert in his field , a specialist, but unfortunately. we could not find common, or rather we had diverged common ground, i probably went into business, into implementation, i wanted some other life, my husband decided to stay in the same positions where he has, although he has huge potential, but unfortunately, i didn’t want to realize it, you know, andrey, i now have the feeling that i’m sitting at a meeting with some big director of a big plant, who is giving a countdown on the expired period of time. and prospects, well, so far there

is a feeling that the director likes being a director, in fact, i don’t see a contradiction yet, because i see a girl who went into self-realization, went consciously, broke up with her husband consciously, that is, the girl, in principle, chooses the model, well, under which it is easy to live, as if not it is assumed, as i understand, that there are some problems there, yes, that is, it is far from easy, so, it is a huge burden directly from the point of view of children, from the point of view of work, from the point of...

these are new opportunities, and so what? i feel comfort in this, we say, comfort in what, at that moment you will feel comfort when you achieve. with this picture of the world or now, when you achieve it, do you feel comfort? the key point is that earlier i saw that there is some level of comfort that i want to reach, but now i understand that i am moving towards this level of comfort through a process that you no longer like, it is difficult for me , how does the difficulty manifest itself, you are nervous, you are not emotionally able to cope, you break down, you have insomnia, so what is it then, what is the difficulty, in stress, in fears, what? something may not work out somewhere in that i, for example, may not be able to keep up with the children, that is, when electrodes are tied to the heels, through which the current hits, yes, you run faster, you say that where there is fear, there you need to grow, well, and yourself the problematic story is, because a person who goes into business, in principle, especially such a serious adult, as if yes,

voluntarily, he usually understands that life is and business is a struggle, it is such a constant story where there is no rest, no sleep, in principle people actually get pleasure from this, the fact that they are all needed, without them no one can do anything, because in fact, this is one of the options for self-realization of a person, therefore , what is the problematic story here? the problematic story is that you didn't know it would be so hard it turned out to be too hard than you expected, what is the most problematic area? well , that's just how modern society dictates, women want to easily achieve some heights, peaks, when, probably, there is... a partner who accompanies you constantly supports, it is much easier to do this. at the moment, there is no support from the point of view, where, probably, i would have started much easier, faster and understanding that from the point of view of relationships, as probably, for most women, we are still

inexperienced, we get married at 23, then our views completely diverge, someone grows in the relationship, someone remains at this level, i have always had a gradation, that when we... got married, my husband was much taller than me, 20 years difference between us, more than that, wow, yes, so, after that, as if he stopped in place, i began to grow very sharply, and this delta between us and my spouse increased many times, that is, it turns out that you outgrew him during your marriage, yes, in fact things, but look, but let's still understand again, because in order to solve a problem, it is important to understand what the problem itself is, that is, you have two parallel requests, a request, well, maybe the creation of some kind of personal...

about the fact that a contract may be disrupted, a loan may not be paid, obligations to some partners or employees may not be fulfilled, we see who we see in front of us now, yes, we see an excellent student, yes, she is simply an excellent student, from her toenails to

the top of her head, yes, she is imbued with this here, in many ways a fictitious world of ambition, excellent student and obligations. here it seems to me that this is the problem, you are certainly right on the mark, and if we, probably, think about where it all began, all the problems always come from childhood, i want to note here that now everyone tells me, you are like a soldier in a skirt, you need this, you do this, you still have to compile everyone around you, delegate there, and control, but you want to come, so guys, let's go, did this, this, this, but you have to live in a slightly different rhythm so that you are heard. here, but i i know that there are wonderful examples where a woman comes, a leader, she easily gave everyone tasks, she succeeded in everything, and i think that this is at the level of thinking and some attitudes, because in childhood my dad gave me such a very serious attitude, the wrong one, there is no word, i want, there is the word must, probably, this

is who was not given such an attitude, you know, yes, if we take it simply, if we realistically evaluate - life, then 99% grow up with this attitude, someone lives easily, someone... and make them responsible for acceptance of your models, you still need to understand, you yourself get pleasure from yourself, as a businesswoman, yes, then you need to understand that those whom you perhaps imagine as such easy managers of girls, in fact, half of them can cry in the evening, actually drink bitter there yes, because in fact they in every way, when we remember the classics of soviet cinema, yes moscow does not believe in tears, yes very clear.

we will help, because natalia and i in this part already, so to speak, know how it is to do, and let's look at your psychological features again, can we first clarify how they manifest themselves, in the opinion of our heroine, these very flaws that she talks about, yes, where are you there, you are squeezing someone, you are harassing someone there, you cannot give an order in a different tone, that was exactly the request from the children's point of view. i say, all the same, children need to be shown, we do not teach them, we do not

educate them, we simply show some kind of example, and even now i notice about my older child that she can be like this somewhere there to shout at the younger one, that is , this is how it should be done, that is , she sets the boundaries herself and i myself set the boundaries for the children, that is, i influence them, it turns out the same thing in a team, okay, in a team okay, i can set some boundaries, my own rules, because this is my business, my... rule, probably, from the point of view of children and the people around me, well, as if to those around me, lana, no, i am probably more for the children, yes, i dictate my rules, what i explain like this is correct, but the key thing is, i don't just forbid something, i always explain why it's necessary, why it's like that, and what you don't like, let's take a trivial example, probably, as all parents know, but i have a strict routine for sleep, that is, i... parents who calmly let their children go to sleep, oh, they go for a walk, they walk, they don't have any routine,

but for me everything is disciplined, for you we only have to eat, do these procedures, go to bed at 9 years old, that is, for me it's strictly like that, probably, it's not very good for children, that's it from the point of view of the fact that i dictate such rules to them, there are pros and cons, the pros are that we introduce discipline to the child, yes, and the cons are that i hold the girls back a little, so what's the problem, do the girls not like it or do you? this is a podcast called psyche, where i, journalist natalia loseva and psychologist andrey sberovsky analyze the situation of our heroine veronica, who has taken on too much of herself and is already tired of it. well, look, well, we see a whole series of very contradictory ones. does not give a happy childhood, as if we

multidirectional trends, as we would say, vectors, as if in this case we still need to try to prioritize , as it were, stories, because we need to understand that there is always a leading line of attack, if you are, well, a businesswoman, after all, as i understand it, that your dominant position is self-realization, then we need to understand: that, unfortunately, yes, you always have to sacrifice something and somewhere children there will not see their mothers there, actually, i just see in this case that you excessively take on several images of yourself at once, which of course you - no need to pull, of course you can pull them and you clearly pull them, but at the same time you feel a sense of discomfort, so my advice in this case, let's clearly separate the zone of your development, the zone of your development is still business, in this part, uh, what will happen with the children half an hour earlier or later they go to bed, let's not consider this so significant, as if a task, let's start, solve the main task, do i understand correctly

that this is to become easy in business communication with your subordinates, clients, customers, contractors and so on, that's how we formulate the task, yes, yes, and i'll clarify, easy only for them or for myself too, and for myself too, well , this is an interacting, interconnected story, because as i understand it, there are some complaints in the team, yes, or someone tells you there that... i 'm talking about the environment, i have a master group, where we communicate very closely with everyone , we assemble a master group, we have 10 or six entrepreneurs who constantly communicate once every two weeks and put out as much as possible everything that is there psychological questions on business question we discuss everything exchanged such hot experience directly i was interested in the question and it is necessary to answer as frankly as possible no matter how i

asked the question guys tell me what are my minuses how have you been evaluating me for half a year now and what are the minuses, where can i grow, any minus is a point of your growth, to which everyone unanimously said that i am specifically some kind of soldier in a skirt, i drive myself into a framework in terms of discipline and life, and directly, i shift it onto others, that you need to live the same way, as you rightly noted, i have my own picture of the world, and i pull people there, well, to what extent do you need to be

a hostage to opinion? in a year, in two, these people who talk about lightness and your excessive heaviness, they will all go bankrupt there, and you, like a salad in a skirt, will develop your business, scale it up and then you will hire them, yes, who are they to give you advice in this case, that i so it touched me a little when veronica says that any minus is a growth point, and why, and why can't you just leave some minuses for yourself, well, simply because life is beautiful in that, life is beautiful including some visyans, kinks. yes, in some cracks, so what if it's a minus? well , you've probably already voiced that very moment several times, roughly speaking, some problem with the straight- a student syndrome, you said it directly, i heard it, but what really can with me you need to be good for someone at this level, yes, but for myself i hold myself back, well

, wait a second, i heard pride when you said that in a few years of your marriage...

i heard that one of the problems of veronica or those people who now recognize themselves in the image of our heroine is that we are always as if conducting a dialogue with someone referent, trying to prove something to this someone referent, it seems to me that in principle, evolutionarily - this is normal, yes, to humble yourself with something, well, that is, with some kind of standards like, well, how i, well, the child is born, we look, so children at 3 months should have this and that, for example, yes, it turns out, what? the only problem is who is this evaluator for us, yes, who, who is right, who, who are healthy judges and safe for our health in humans, mother, children, i don’t know, talking to myself, yes, that is, sitting in front of the mirror, who, who should these judges be, so that these are people on whose opinion

i can, as they say now, rely ecologically, well, that’s exactly what i ’m talking about, because... do not give advice that is not needed, do not try to improve something, if there is no direct request, and perhaps there is even a request, says: listen, guys, well, i have enough to improve in my family myself, then i have

two children there with their mother not so often play, so please improve it yourself or contact specialists in improving others, that is, in this case, you do not need to be a point of such quintessence, a point of crystallization of all the problems of the galaxy, you do not need, because from my experience of my work i understand and constantly see girls of yours warehouse, which... all the time raises, raises its bar, and these people reach depression and burnout, and there to many different physiological health problems, while being completely prosperous people, being the subject of envy of others, and they feel unhappy, burnt out there and so on and so forth, this is what i see your tendency, the trajectory there, i see you now as a completely successful, prosperous girl, who, having come out of a divorce in this case, yes, that is , having gone through this story... set before yourself new tasks there in business, there in everything else, you are following a completely correct model, which you have already adopted for many years, that i must

lay down straw everywhere, take everything into account everywhere, calculate 10 steps ahead, and you ran, as if ahead of the train, ran, as they say, with acceleration when perhaps you don’t need to run so fast, you lived successfully before that for 32 of your years, achieved great success in that model, well, actually, which you lived? you need to speed yourself up now, you don’t need to spur yourself on according to some patterns there other people, in this case, if the point of business, if everything is clear to you there, if you understand the mechanism itself, if you understand the growth points, do it, and ease can come only when, firstly, you find yourself smart deputies, to whom you can have the same excellent students or excellent girls like you, and to them you can already push off, in fact, this mission there to improve by and large, then your ease will come, because this is a psyche podcast, where

i, journalist natalia loseva and psychologist andrey sberovsky, we are analyzing the situation of our heroine veronica, who has taken on too much of herself and is already tired of it. one of my friends, a big boss, once told me: you know, he says, you need to compete with only one person, with yourself, only with yourself, so i compete with myself. or you don’t see anything except a colorful ribbon, you understand, and you have your successes, which andrey is absolutely right, absolutely stunning, yes, amazing successes, you can be proud of them,

of course, you need to be proud, but you don’t see them, continuing your thought, i draw your attention attention, look, i'm asking a reasonable question, there's a girl who gets tired somewhere, wants to be easy, but she finds time for her sessions, there with five other businessmen, finds time to go to a psychologist, and i understand that - by devoting time to this, you may not be devoting time to yourself as an individual, don't lie in the bath like a girl, don't go shopping, don't go get ice cream in the end, just don't go for a walk with the kids, without rushing anywhere, so i see that you 're overloading yourself, let's ask, andrey, let's let's ask veronica, and what for you is directly specific without general words, but with specific examples, what for you can be such well signs or details of this lightness of joy of life, yes, like lying in the bath and so on, tell me, reading a book? i want to go to gomak, or to gomak in the maldives, a great plan, or this is just

a walk through a pine forest, because it charges you after the rain, it's an incredible feeling, and crazy speed, by the way , regarding speed, i really like driving in some high- speed car, where you can break the rules speed, to drive, well, to go somewhere to a race track. yes, directly, traveling by car, it is very difficult to actually pull out, because as if i do not allow myself this, this is how we see it, we grabbed onto it, because we see that you are trying to live by the rules, by armored rules that everyone has, in fact, too, again, i say, i am incredibly grateful to fate and even to my husband, despite everything that happened to us, and for the fact that i began to transform greatly, directly transformation of me... for what i

have, but not myself. i want to emphasize this idea more clearly, in order to be light, you need to allocate special time for this, and you, apparently, simply do not have it physically, because you are constantly engaged in self-improvement, when you are all the time in this flow, there critically assessing yourself, listening to other people's opinions, you of course have no time left for yourself, therefore , answering your request, how to become light, first, we allocate special time for this, what time reserves? we can find time for easy veronica, if we accept this idea, if we start to allocate special time for this, then this will actually be the answer to your request for ease, because ease is our right to do nothing, excuse me, at least an hour a day, as if this is our right to get pleasure for ourselves, our beloved wait, this is, look, this is a very important point, you

just said not to do anything and... at this point the eye twitched, of course, her client will, but this is a mistake, because we invest different things, this formula, do nothing, you know, at some point i forbade myself, in the morning, i live outside the city, in the morning i drink tea, coffee on the terrace, i forbade myself to take my phone with me to the terrace when i drink coffee in the morning, you know, that's wonderful, yes, it was unbearably hard, because my mail wasn't sorted, yes, text messages weren't answered. the schedule for the day, so to speak, was not updated, you know, i just understand you very well, well, i feel it, but i suddenly realized that this is the time when i do this 10 minutes, i sit and excuse me, please, i'm being stupid, looking at the forest, at the grass, at the starlings, at the raindrop, which yes, i'm just being stupid, i suddenly understand that this is the time in which i

am developing incredibly, i am being judged.

let's learn to say with words: i trust you, shake your hand, hug, give away this hyperhorse of mine to a and how can i say it, you can also say at your discretion, and you can also say, as you decide, and you can also say, listen, do it your way, it's easier for me, i can do it like that, yes, and i trust you, a little bit, add, add, let's learn this, because the word discretion, i trust you, this is such a gift to people in fact, telling you. i trust you, when you hear yourself, i may even repeat, you may not really trust, but when you say it out loud, when your own ears hear your own words, you are released a little, released psychologically, physiologically, emotionally, learn to say these words, i trust you, a person may not justify the trust, we will change it, actually, but he can justify it, then veronica, a successful girl, smart,

hardworking, wonderful mother and... all the other various words in the superlative mood, will have time to be easy, but i would like to have time to talk about something else, look, i got hooked on this tension that arises in veronica when you suggest that she say the phrase i trust you, yes, that is, apparently there is even no fact for us that she trusts now, she thinks, maybe i came to the wrong place, they will tell me such things now, but it seems to me that here what is the key, really, probably you have a problem with trust in the world, and in people and circumstances, when there is no trust in the world, no trust in life, in circumstances that a person has, and why control, why fears, yes, if you do not trust, then you are afraid of it, if you are afraid, then you do not trust that everything will go well there, or that people

will not... let you down, and maybe even come to you in something, your employees, this is wonderful, yeah, from this tension, this stone concrete slab on your fragile yes shoulders, you can tell that... you carry it on your neck, this emotional plate of your fears, your responsibility will press down on you, it is precisely from what andrey pulled out very accurately now, yes, from your inability, inability to trust, this trust, this lightness needs to be studied very carefully, and this is exactly what is needed for her, yes, i need to say, veronica, you must learn to be light, you must learn to be irresponsible somewhere, you know, when it is irresponsible, i also have an eye again twitches. and we will even tell you, veronica, we believe in you, we know that you are really easy, you are really easy, veronica, you have it all, you can, that is, we kind of delegate it to you a little, trust you a little, because how can we not trust you, you are an excellent student, we trust you with natalia, you

can be easy, but for this now a we must allocate a little time, b, we must find someone you will trust, this is such a game, this is a game of adults, transfer the trust, transfer the responsibility to someone, yes, actually, this is the correct distribution. can you swim? of course, and do you float on your back? definitely, and do you lie on the water? yes, i love it, yes, on the water it doesn't trust, wait, that's right, when you lie on the water, you know, it's that very thrill, yes, i swim too, but a little stressed , a little, stressed, that is, when well, not stressed, well, it's hard to break this, i probably have this thought somewhere that there is - inside me a feeling. total justice, when well, what is justice? justice, the latest story, if you want, in stories, i paid for moscow parking, the app or their system doesn't work, i

don't know what the problem was, but the money was debited from the bank, yeah, then after a while i get a fine for 5,000, it's a shame, it 's a shame, it's a shame, we work with grudges, for 5,000, and then you realize that the bank removed the transaction, then returned it back, but i spent 5 hours paying for parking in the center of moscow, for my part, i did everything correctly, like an excellent student, yes, that's how it is i have to, as a result, a week later i receive a fine, and i understand that this is totally unfair, i filed, of course, an appeal, they appeal, there is an appeal, they did not appeal, you start to drown in a feeling of injustice, to do something, unfairly, yes, i notice this injustice everywhere, i want to fight for justice, probably, this is also connected with the fact that i do not trust the world, in this case , again, to fight for justice alone, it is to be a don quixote, who fought with these windmills, it is necessary even in the fight for justice you need to have allies, and these allies need to be trusted and delegated, yes, that is, you need to have people who will

have the same picture of the world in this case as you do, so the fact that you are such a fighter is great, this is your, well, actually, this is your image, your way of life in the end, again, if you see injustice, react to it, yes , knock on all doors. you will be fully supported, but i emphasize, the most important thing, this is what i hear and what i see, veronica needs to be brought out - from the image of a loner, the image of a knight loners, because i see a knight alone, yes you probably have friends, yes you have girlfriends, a person who has a business, and has money, there are always friends and girlfriends, as it were, as if the poor somehow have difficulties, actually, but it is not a fact, it is not a fact that you see people - close to you, perhaps you look at people, say: so, here in fact, you are not telling everything, here everything is not so with you, good, as you tell me, or maybe, there, you did not achieve this yourself, i achieved it myself this, this is the feeling, because in fact the sense of justice is heightened, it is characteristic of those who have achieved everything in life themselves, i wanted two nuances for you, and can

you first say before the nuance, please tell me, i trust my employees, i verbalize, at least partly, let's simplify the task already, let's say it this way, that i trust many of my employees, uh , my... desires, when we left school, one in the field is not a warrior, this is what we are talking to you about, because you know that a hedgehog and porcupine, i want to hug, but it’s impossible, yeah, you know, so in order to become light, you need to show your weakness somewhere,

not be embarrassed about it, find time for it, find faith in people who can support you, and you will actually achieve the goal you want, because you are a great girl, well... what, friends, our heroine veronica came with a request, how to stop carrying everything on herself, how to stop being this little iron, tireless tank. it seems to me that we have found a tank for this right. to the sunny pine forest, which veronica actually dreams of, but hasn't been there for a long time, i am incredibly grateful to you, you really helped me, you found the right path for me, and i promise myself, first of all, including you, i keep my promise, and that now i will work on myself, devote time to myself, not forget myself, my beloved, pay more attention to myself, really, trust the world, trust employees, i emphasized it, you don't need to work on yourself, you yourself are already

perfect, just take a little rest from yourself, and this will be your path to ease, this leave yourself alone is called, absolutely right, if you want to participate in our podcast psyche, leave requests on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. hello, you are watching precious stories and my hosts sergei mikhailovich nekrasov, director of the all-russian pushkin museum and ekaterina varkan. well, sergei mikhailovich and i, when we meet, often tell you about pushkin. and today will be no exception, but we somehow noticed that we usually, well, we need to show some illustrations, naturally, we usually show such classic canonical portraits of his kapensky, tropinin. here, but today we consulted and decided that we need to make

such an unusual show and surprise you with unusual portraits, we will start with a remarkable, in my opinion, work by pyotr konchelovsky, it has two names: pushkin mikhailovsky, pushkin composing poetry, but there are also two images, both of these images are in the funds of the all-russian pushkin museum, to be more precise. then in our funds there is this very painting by the artist pyotr petrovich konchalovsky, we we see pushkin here at the moment of creative inspiration, and he is covered with this blanket, which looks a little like a tiger skin, and it would seem that this is how it was intended from the very beginning, but in our archives there is another photograph, a photograph of the first version of this painting, here... in this photograph pushkin is depicted as

the artist decided to show him, as he really was, most likely yes, because this pose, with his legs tucked under him, he is sitting on the sofa and the moment of creative inspiration, which the artist so well shown here, of course, it draws attention to his appearance, to the poet's face, to that very pen that pushkin holds, it is known that... he really loved to gnaw the pens that they wrote with, they are all gnawed and, so to speak, represent very small feathers, here are the legs, naked legs, those people on the commission really didn't like it, yes, who looked at this picture, because we must remember that this is the beginning of the thirties, this is the first version of 1932, this was the beginning of preparations for the big pushkin events, 1937, when there was

a grand exhibition in the historical museum, when there was a luxurious exhibition in the hermitage, and if we speak more broadly, then in many countries, and the famous exhibition in paris in the hall they were playing, everyone tried to show pushkin in the most interesting way, this work caused, as it is sometimes customary to say today , an inadequate reaction, because they began to pay the least attention to ... pushkin and his inspiration, most of all to the fact that the poet's legs are striking here and such opportune legs that they did not notice the decanter with a glass, even well yes, there is one, but it remained in the final version, then the artist had no choice but to cover up these naked pushkin's legs, cover up the bright spot with that same blanket that we see today , and of course this may really be... the painting even benefited, but

here's a funny incident, that the first version was somewhat different, more like this, perhaps, natural, but in your museum, sergei mikhailovich, we know, it's no secret, there are a large number of rarities, so today we actually wanted to talk about pushkin's sticks, pushkin's canes, and we know that today four canes are known, three of them can be considered... an object of uh such an uh obligatory no one relied on them, but they were of everyday life, chic and pay attention, here on the ivory on the baldazhnik, pushkin is written on it, this cane is very interesting, the next one with an amethyst button, it

is a little blue in color here, but in reality the amethyst valdazhnik plays, it looks especially in the light. pletnev always walked with this cane in university, where he was a professor, and lectured and did not part with it during lectures, each time, not forgetting to pay attention to the fact that this was pushkin's cane, and even when pletitnev became the rector of st. petersburg university, he nevertheless did not part

with it constantly used it, it must be said that it is really very interesting. because on the one hand it is characteristic as a typical thing of that time, at the same time at the same time the fact that pushkin's name appears on this very, on this end of the cane on this ivory baldazh, emphasizes its importance for us, because any thing that alexander sergeevich held in his hands, any thing represents...

it is pleasant to hold in your hands, although perhaps everything is not so clear in the sense that this button, well, was stored without movement, or it was still sometimes worn until the moment when alexander sergeevich inserted it. as far as i know, at the beginning of the 18th century, under peter, buttons were smooth and this whole story with the fact that they were decorated with monograms or coats of arms and

so on and so forth, all this history with it began somewhere at the end of the 14th century. when such a rose appeared, then, here is the image, the embossing on this, it would seem, such a pure utilitarian object, here under nicholas i it simply blossomed already an unthinkable number of monograms, symbols, and signs and so on and so on and so on, appeared on the cane's baldazhnik, but nevertheless. of course a wonderful object, if alexander sergeevich pushkin believed that uh this is a thing that he got from his great-grandfather, abram petrovitsa hannibal, peter's godson great, well, probably, you need to listen to this carefully. the third cane is wonderful, in my opinion, the most beautiful

with a knob made of zametist. well, here you are a specialist in stones, so the cards are in your hands, it is really very... good, here it is standing, the only thing, i can only repeat what i have already said, that it plays with many facets of the saint, it is very colorful and interesting, more interesting than what we see now, and but...