then very often, uh, many, well, like the first mistake of those who look at the period, what we 're going to put now, i don't know, i just don't want to offend anyone, but some props, they will save us, that will be everything, so we kind of made a request, then we went again - to work, it is very important to continue the story during the entire issue, it is much more difficult to get started, but a clear story, at first we designated, then plus or minus movement into accents, they should not just be in accents, they should pronounce each movement, and here there is a little bit - here is the story, after all the division - the ties of the number, then the technical saturation, sometimes we hit the accent, good, we didn't hit it plus or minus, and the exit - this is, probably, what i'm trying to do, what i pay a lot of attention to, and why did you take her by the hand, why did you take it, why can't you take it by the shoulders, it's too rude, put your hands down.

raise your hands, press, hold, let go, no, rude, again, again it's bad, we stand for a long time, we look, all this is a very important process, all the same, while everyone is chasing this very literary idea, here we have this idea, but we kind of told it in the first 20 seconds, then we went faster, in general, of course, amateurs are in a hurry, but why do professionals win against amateurs in a tournament? russian challenge, basically, so far it is the professionals who win, if we take two seasons, they are no longer in a hurry, they already know how to work with a pause, they already know how to stand, wait, an amateur is in a hurry, they really want to move a thousand elements into one faster a second to put in, today we have a guest who, without whom, probably, figure skating in russia would not exist, verbukh, i will go back a few steps, because i really... i wanted to ask you

about one thing on the topic, usually, when an athlete finishes, gradually, that is, it is already resting on their laurels, with rare exceptions, it seems to me that two couples, one dance, russian, one sports, i am talking, of course, vika, sinitsa, nikita katsalapov and evgeniy tarasov vladimir morozov, who seemed to be after their olympic games they started skating better than they even skated in sports, well, i 'll tell you this now, no, this happens to many, well... i think that mm, tatyana navka and roman kostomarov, after sports they skated better than they skated in sports, and they have an outstanding free program, and carmen, well, and an eastern, eastern program, but still there was a lot of sports, that's how it is, when they came out you couldn't take your eyes off it, by the feeling, by the fullness, when they don't renounce loving these... demonstration

numbers that we all remember very well, that are before our eyes, in my opinion, navkostamara skated an order of magnitude higher than they skated in sports, few did so, i, i would probably sharpen the issue a little differently here, if possible, we have a certain feeling, uh, for some reason many figure skaters, i have a big complaint about them in this regard, as a person who conducts a large number of ice shows, as a producer, which is especially true for the modern... generation, not your generation, not the generation before, there is a feeling that everything that we we have to, we did it in sports, and the demonstration ones, well, we can jump a couple of triples, in general, here you go, here we are already riding the way we ride, not really anyone continues to develop themselves, continues to search, for example, dimka oleev now once saltus, like that bravo, yes, basically, the main position, we have already won everything and really, probably, from the spectators... it works, because the spectators

have spoiled everyone, they accept everyone wonderfully, they love everyone, we are all loved, but where are these dances, which i don’t know, bobrensky cowboy, but i looked at it a long time ago, yes, those who continued, when the champions were still in exhibition performances, looked for images, found different forms, learned new elements, tricks, and some unique elements, basically at exhibition performances now people reap dividends. and i think that this is a huge part of the continuation of your career, where you are obliged to develop yourself, find new ones, especially since you have time, you don’t need to chase quads there to show, well , at least two or three triple jumps, well show, we have some kind of straight away, that is , we jump everything, and then the fight for one triple at the exhibition performances, i think this is wrong, well, this is especially noticeable in girls.

because we saw there some incredible number of titles, victories, multi-turn jumps, well, i understand that the topics of our beautiful girls. this is the most dangerous topic of all topics and we walked a tightrope with you, but i am ready to take this blow myself, yes, i am absolutely talking first of all about the girls, everyone is trying, but i just think that we need to somehow in the head to change, that this is also a big part of the continuation of the career, that the career has not ended only then on the ground, the career continues, it is necessary to confirm each time with your appearance to conquer more and more new viewers, how realistic is it to do such in russia.

he sometimes goes there, maybe at least attempts count, not count, but some kind of story, because in general, if you remove - all the lyrics, then you, now i will say a terrible word again, buy a service, a service of a person's performance, and he is, yes, he can do everything try, that's history, but on the other hand, how do you write it down, there's a number in the contract that will win over the audience, some, you can write it down, i need there... well, yes, three triple jumps, there's a triple throw in pair skating or two high supports, in principle, and i think that would be right and maybe even clearer to everyone the rules of the game, i'm generally always for contracts, i'm for contracts in the case of transfers from one

coach to another, the fact that this topic was often mulled over and now everything has died down a little, because there is no loud transition, but this is also a very important story and yours well because i... am not a coach, your vulnerability in terms of the fact that at some point a person in whom you have invested most of your life, your knowledge, your skills, goes to reap dividends from another person, well this is understandable, everyone has their own destiny, but you must receive compensation for this, including financial compensation, and compensation for your time, then you understand that by investing, one way or another, you work for yourself, for him, and for the country in the end. but everything should be compensated, and in my opinion it is compensated by the coach who took the ready student or by the club that took this coach, that is, everything is quite clear here, well, you buy a semi -finished product, and compensate, who

made it? returning to your direct line of business, your favorite ice show, doesn't it seem to you that this level of what we talked about is falling? yes, in the execution of elements, attitude to programs, it also suffers because now the competition is very high you too, because there are a lot of different tours, a lot of shows, a lot of people who do this, athletes skate absolutely everywhere, in principle there are no exclusive relationships there, well, one won’t take, another will, what ’s the point in bothering, i don’t really have anything to add, you can’t resist this wave in any way, athletes shouldn’t care whether they ’re invited or not, there’s a name, your name, and you go out, and the price of a name speaks of internal responsibility, responsibility for yourself, for your name, that’s why here, i probably disagree with you here

that it is relaxing, another thing is that you simultaneously touched on another topic, that everyone skates everywhere, and practically no show has any kind of exclusivity, and i, of course, remember it as a golden age, when we were alone, and the first 12 years, in general, we were absolute monopolists in this market, including i had such an agreement with the guys that they perform only in my projects, well, and i, in turn, give them a lot of work, in general, we are on this everyone was holding on, and objectively there wasn't much other work, so everyone was holding on now...

migrations of everyone everywhere, this is probably not good, but this is now a reality, there really are a lot of shows, we are basically going through - all those stages that happened some 20 years ago in the united states of america, we all know that this was followed by a fairly large stagnation, most often it closed down altogether, i think that in any case, we are also waiting for a moment when the interest of such a large... the number of ice projects will fall one way or another

little by little there will be two or three projects left. well , shall we continue our conversation with ilya overbukh? it seems to me that there is some fault on your part here, because if we are talking about the creation of stars, i have just told you about everything that is being done, this is the creation of new stars. we had 11 olympic. champions in sochi 10 years ago, you had the only show, and where are the 11 olympic champions of sochi in your show, well, it is impossible, always, but you have always held on to the champions of 2006 and until now, for the most part, this is your corpse, don't you think that it's just that someone also needed to earn money, they also wanted to be like navka kostamara, like domnina shabalin, like yagudin in the end, of course, of course, well, and did you give them work? you're absolutely right, but here 's the story, here you're faced with a dilemma,

eh, those, exactly, whom you said, these are the people with whom i walked there for 10 years, yes, and you understand that we came to a certain story, we won over the audience, we took off as a family, we traveled together in the same buses, slept in sleeping bags, we grew up, then you understand that new champions appear, like there voistani, and already there two-time champions and so on, there vikosni.

well, now i will pay three, there is nowhere to get them, because they are taken from the sale of spectator tickets, spectators objectively, they already have a cohort of 10 champions, yes , they came, now no more come, yeah. the market capacity increases, it turns out there is nowhere to get money, that is, you want, you want to gather everyone, you want to have everything, but everyone needs to pay for it performance, so you are faced with a dilemma, or you should say guys, thanks for everything, but now i work for those who sell more, because naturally, the audience always wants fresh champions, they want, they love those with pleasure, but they buy tickets for those who have won just now, and this is the law. you say, guys, this is how it is with me, or let's reduce all the fees there by a third for you and then this is basically

some kind of endless story, so i am squeezed, i am partly between the truth of my here somehow there in my corridors, you could say , with my old farts and the so-called fresh blood, and which brings in general commercial components, here everyone will always have their own truth, of course, for the guys you regulate, we all have a biological age, at which you

sooner or later stop skating in ice shows, and aren't you afraid that when your cast, which you love so much, which you slept with in these common sleeping bags on buses, just at some point all the other new blood, also about which you you say, it will remain dismantled, you say golden words, of course, all the superstars will already be riding with... those who took them at the time, ride with them in these sleeping bags, sooner or later, everything somehow ends, passes, here the question is already there of honesty, and throwing and so on, of course i...

this moss will probably appear - one of the guys now with some other approach, who will come up with another solution, so far no one has come up with it, while we all work according to the standard, well, plus or minus the presenters announce the numbers, the numbers are different, a little in one the subject matter in another, overbukh had already thought of everything according to his tablets, well, yes, we, well, not averbukh,

averbukh also came later, we are all followers of others, of course, my entire theatrical movement is a follower of... tatyana tarasova, in particular, and i always say that it was precisely when i saw their performance in luzhniki, when i was very little, including back then they were together with igor bobrin, and it was for me right then that it was deposited in me, that i should come to these performances, that is why we only all, all we continue everything, we all travel one after another to the same, basically russian cities, to the same big skating rinks, sacred places, they also come there for competitions, and how to sell the quantity.

from 2006 to the fourteenth year, we even have eight years, we were monopolists, we are this show, we came once a year, i rotated a lot, we come to one city no more than once a year, so as not to overfeed, so as not to have the feeling, but during this time we formed a half of people who i can’t say that there are fanatics there, but they have some kind of reflex, to come, yes, there is a tradition, yes, we are getting old, they are getting old, we are getting old together, but it is a working tradition, as they say, that is, the audience is getting old together with you, you know, like now almost everyone who is trying, well, trying, trying, wants to get an autograph, they apologize a little, they say, we are taking this for our mother, that is , we don’t really need you, but my mother

loves you so much, she loves your project, so we take pictures for mothers. you have realized yourself not not only as a director of ice shows and programs in figure skating, but also as a director of large mass events, and isn't figure skating already too small for you? thank you very much for telling me about it, because for me it's just a huge part of life, which still goes by a little unnoticed, because there is a stamp that you are a figure skater, even now ilya averbuk is a figure skater, what kind of figure skater is there, well, for me it's even more than ice, and ice has become a little bit of a hobby. on the side, yes, i love it, i grateful, but the main ambitions are connected precisely with these projects that you mentioned, these are things that are very, very, very emotional, and for me they are very important, and even, probably, this is one of the options, when a huge number of different ice projects appeared, i

was looking, i began to look for my exclusivity in such - stories, because this is also such a, such a drug, when you are more than a thousand people to you, well, not in subordination, but in general they depend on your decisions, you are karabas-barabas, you really like to manage, i i like the volume, i really love the volume, the large-scale events, this experience that you get off the ice with staging huge mass events helps you win year after year in the russian challenge, because for example, well, not only in the russian challenge, they stage brilliant productions there , yes, that is, you maybe pick up something. do you bring it into your ice work? thanks to lednikovy, i, roughly speaking, got the hang of this production, because every week you do there... 10 numbers, but you skated yourself pale, and what do we have in common with you, what do i like about you so much, when i suggested to maxim to skate in the ice

age with a partner, you came, looked and said, well, we will definitely win, i 'm not so interested, and that's how it was, and that 's cool, in the end this partner won with my star partner, and if maybe it was the first time for me, of course i would have agreed, but when i was already... a friend of roma kostomarov, lesha tikhanov, many other guys, i already understood with what eyes they were looking at me during this viewing, i realized that i can't do that, so, going back to likom, it's a huge school, you get your hand in, you have guys going through it, plus you take so much from the actors who come, they don't know how to skate, but they know how to think, they offer a lot of ideas, you pick them up, add something, see.

special and maybe you have some plans - to stage something new and interesting. thank you very much, i have plans, we are currently doing such a big job, i'm afraid to look or now we have it everywhere and i want, of course, to make a big program, a long one stationary in moscow, well, here's a small hall where people come, and it seems to me that there is such a great demand for this now, i won't name the program, but we are working in this direction, however, i think that there could be exactly

what you were talking about, and rotation, and some play for a week, others play for a week, there will be enough space for everyone little by little, well, we'll skate, i think that on this note we will end our conversation, it was really very interesting, thank you very much for finding time in your busy schedule to come to we are visiting, i am very glad. thank you very much, thank you, it was a podcast free program, i had a real guru of figure skating and not only ilya overbukh as a guest. autumn celebrates the farewell ball, but

does not expect mercy from fate, whist, melting in a slow circle, sad to perform a dance near the ground, leaves burn without regret, even when the summer term has not passed. but they managed to serve, before shooting a noose on the sand, falling, falling, falling, falling leaves, well, let it be at least transparent light, in memory, memory, in memory, in memory of the faces, of those who are not around today, the leaves are falling, falling, falling ,

falling. well, at least let the light be more transparent, in memory, in memory, in memory, in memory of the face, of those who are not around today, the leaves are falling, falling, falling, falling, well, at least let the light be transparent, in memory, memory, memory, memory of the face, of all. who are not around today, those who are not around today, hey, those who are not around today, oh, hello everyone, dear friends, you are watching. the podcast is not a format, as always in our studio we have my wonderful co-hosts karina cross and valya carnival, i am anton lavrenti, behind me is the gypsy band, and this is the guitar, roman.

anton on drums, natalia on keys and alexey on bass guitar. our guest today is a composer, musician, film actor, heartthrob, alexander buinov, the tracks of our second guest can replace a visit to a psychologist, let's say, a girl with a multi-million audience, incomparable, amazing, i adore her. my asia, good evening, hello, asia, please tell me, it's a pseudonym, yes, in fact, what does it mean, in general, asia from ancient arabic, in my opinion, is called healing in a word, it is translated as healing with a word, and in my youth, when i took this pseudonym, i was a very romantic, such a natural, and you know, i think, as you name a ship, so it will float, in theory i have always emphasized the lyrics in my songs, probably, somehow it is like that, wait, in my youth, well, yes, i didn’t understand,

now it’s okay, women ask. age 26, i am familiar with your work, you have, well , maybe to be honest, you don’t have to say, a musical education, yes, of course, you can hear it, because you are so gamochki you use it constantly, how great is it for you , such a move, the harmony may not be such a rich harmony, but it is not necessary, by the way, i myself am for simplicity, yes , i have one such song, it is generally written on two chords, you just started singing right away, and... let's go back and forth, everything is there, look at what he does, you - up to this point i was familiar with alexander bulnov, all creativity, because such communication, as if yes, of course, listen, my parents, when they found out that we would have a joint program, my mother said, nastya, this is such a delight, we know everything, and really, when we just started listening to your work, i realized that i know every second one practically by heart, and asya, have you prepared some kind of surprise for

alexander, well, i don’t know how much of a surprise is this? this is basically a song that i sing always, everywhere, that we sing with friends to the guitar, when we have some kind of soulful get-togethers, and let these songs, let us sing along with you, someone will say, all roads have been traveled, someone will say, the song has all been sung, and i walk with careless steps. i go in defiance my fate, someone hides behind a stone wall, someone is tired and i am a boat on the bottom, and i scream, which is all blue flame, i drink

only one thing, well let's sing and together, let sadness come to me again, in the heart of sorrow not to learn to stop, i will not smile at everyone in a year i drink again in audibility. alexander, your career began in school years, with such a fundamental, probably, acquaintance with alexander gradsky, tell me in more detail, how did it happen, and you, then, i have a little surprise, look, here, and now we return to stories, so, the story is this, specifically in the ninth grade i started getting into rock roll, one day i accidentally ended up in a

group by... such a friend, i got hooked, he says, what's your name? i say, sasha, and he, my name is sasha too, let's create a group, right away, well, you recognize gradsky, yes, i, he says, even have a name, i say what, he says with komorokhi, by the way, i dressed up today, i had almost the same pants, with selbands, look, it turns out hussar, that's when i had them appeared

such pants, then some kind of morocco boots with upturned toes appeared, like ivan tsarevich, velvet straps, yes, velvet , it turns out velvet straps, so on top i just put on a bag. a bag, well, yes, for the head and for the hands cut out, so the buffoons, we are like that, we rehearsed, we looked for other musicians for a long time, but the first performance was the three of us with the drummer volodya polonsky and i had some kind of unfortunate piano, they took off all its covers, gouged everything out of there, only the bare strings, that is, the hammers, and i chop there some rock and roll of another kind, a city guy sings, he had a crown, the thing house of the rising sun, that's what you knew.

a scandal ensued, well, in general, that's where the whole story went. asya, and you please tell me, who influenced your music, do you have any idols? i probably didn't have such great teachers in my life, but there were those people

who really gave me a lot of warmth, they themselves may not have realized themselves in the musical field somehow brightly, but at the same time they instilled faith in me, my the vocal teacher at the institute said: "nastya, you are just a diamond, you just need to be cut." despite the fact that i sang crookedly past, but, but this is some kind of understanding that i have some kind of specialty, the ability to feel, probably the most important thing in music, it is simply to have a soul , the ability to somehow open it to people, my parents were also involved in music, but no one developed it in themselves professionally, my mother played the accordion, my father played the guitar, at home there was already music constantly, my grandfather played constantly everything, cool, you have a song about a wonderful feeling of love, and what influenced it so much, why? each of your songs is permeated with this feeling of love, in fact , i had such a complex for a long time, i am from a fairly happy family, i am lucky, somehow the big one leads me along the red line and in my whole life is filled

with great love, that's probably why there is so much of this love in me, by the way, do you want a story, here we want, in fact, i have a song called the last weakness, this is my first such youthful song, i wrote it on such an impulse emotions are simply endless. the boy that i really liked, he proposed to another girl, i found out about it and was extremely upset, literally a month ago this boy wrote to me and said: nastya, forgive me, i was a fool, i offended you so much, and you are great, smart girl, just recently, amazing, just imagine how everything really lets go to you right away, listen, but we want you to perform the song the last weakness, but not in its original version, and we decided to jazz it up a little. this song, the last weakness, my last weakness, you're going to the altar, and i'm going to success, it's even good

that you didn't come, i'm not crying, it 's a nuisance in the city, i'm covering up my feelings with stupid laughter, this son is coming, and i'm going to success? it's also good that you didn't come, i'm not crying, it's a nuisance online, i'm covering up my feelings with stupid laughter, it's love, baby, no, by the way, they got divorced, well done. i wanted to say, first of all, thank you very much, you made my dream come true, if only you knew how many episodes in a row, guys, i wanted to sit here and eat something, sharpen brazenly, i read that you were born in

a very musical family and that you were literally tied with chains to musical instruments, you tell me, is this true, or is it still a lie and a provocation, who of us was not tied to we even have a saying with friends, if you were beaten for music, then you are a musician, if you were not beaten, then you have nothing to do with it, i don’t know who, even mosar is supposedly a genius, his dad still forced him to practice, you know, i had such a story. in our family everyone was a musician, i mean, my mother was a conservatory student and four brothers, two graduated from the conservatory, i was the third, so i had a younger brother, and as if my mother said that you should just get an education, my older brother, well, more for some kind of stibalova, he probably did it, because he tied a chain around my leg, we had a big dog, so he tied a chain around my leg and the legs of the piano, where's the joke. my mother

once, the only conflict that i had with my mother, a serious one, was that i sat on sundays playing the piano, while she ironed clothes for a week, one day she went to the bathroom to do something there, and you burned the pianoforte, i kicked it, i kicked it, and it was an acoustic piano, a real one, it was impossible to find a tuner in our city, i'm from the city of belovo kuzbass, it's a small city, and my mother came out of the bathroom with some towel and chased me around the entire apartment, she says: are you kidding me, it's a beautiful musical instrument, how can you do that, in the end yes, since then somehow i'm much more reverent to i relate to this, i received it, i realized it, alexander, well, there is something that you - play for the soul now, precisely with love for the instrument, and you know, that well, let's put it this way... i am a little carried away, yes, by the work

of scriabin, as if i played his preludes and i have just an imitation, or something of scriabin or memories of him. well, in this spirit, bravo, you are connected by a lot, you have experience, well, in the film industry, by the way, asya wrote two amazing tracks, you have a soundtrack for a film. and you have a soundtrack for a show, let's

maybe we'll sing, easy and happy, everything that shines on you, just a light bulb, how much have you suffered, my darling, one day the clouds above your head will disperse, but for now stand your ground, you're just an empty space in this world, and so they speak to someone. it's useless, while everyone is on the highway, you're dragging yourself along the side of the road, you can barely breathe, but you want to live, and in order to live, you have to move forward, they hope that someone will pick you up, during a storm it's pointless to look for a harbor to hold out, your main goal is to hold out, because everything that shines on you, just a light bulb, how much have you suffered, my darling? one day the clouds above

your head will disperse, but for now on your own, wait, wait, all that shines for you, just a darling, how much have you suffered, my darling one day the clouds above your head will disperse, but for now on your own, wait, wait, wait, my dear, and tell me please, did your parents raise you like a flower, in a flowerbed, what's the point?

but you also had such a family that you were dressed in buttons, all this is beautiful, everything is so strict, and then you went out, then a cap, this little white dress, that i i got ready, but i had a story like this, if i went to a music school, my mother did it to me like this, i had a coat altered from my father's. a teacher from the military, he was a military pilot, then short stanishchi on suspenders, and i guessed, bees, bangs on rubber. and i walked, i have these bangs, some kind of boots, this music folder is a must and a beret, i hated it, a beret, it means, i'm like, i'm an intelligent boy and i have to walk among all our punks, you know, you go out into the yard and the most dirty swearing

intelligentsia, wow, well of course i was ashamed of all this, i had sheds with firewood right there, where well... there were stoves in every room, i crawled under the shed under mine, i had to change clothes there, put my beret there and everything, i put on three-ruble trousers, some kind of tatar ones, all sorts of half-kens, something like that came out, so i felt like a normal person. alexander, in fact, i have been connected with you for a very long time by one story, the thing is that well, i'll show you a photo now one person, here together.

my songs, i told my friends that alexander, they all believed, well naturally, i also told all my relatives that my dad is alexander buinov, so it turns out that from 7 to 13 years old you were my adopted father, so to speak, my mother every time alexander buinov performed, she turned off the tv every time, because i mom, no, because i said, well look how daddy is. very similar, very much so can i take photos with you for mom, go ahead, go ahead, because well it seems to me, she is just laughed, i'll even make a video now, mom, well, you won't turn off this tv, hello to you, thank you very much, listen, no,

so much - the stories touch, we laughed, of course, here, but i imagine you, when you were, what, 8, 9, 10, up to 13 years old, and you, as if on principle, you understood that this was not your father, or you just, well, you were very similar and it seemed to me that well, well, it's understandable, you made it up a little and began to believe in it, i'm just sitting here now, listening, i imagine the moment when the tv is just playing in karina's house, mom is there vacuuming and doing something, there's bitter honey on her lips from the tv, oh my god, she turns off the tv, most likely that's how it was, well, because... i'm not a heartbreaker, but uh, i started relationships with my women, always thinking that it would be for life, that's how it was always, we just met, and it was definitely a romantic relationship, no, it couldn't be any other way, it was definitely with all these physical

hugs, kisses, flowers, i don’t know, well, at that time, that was somehow like this and that, and it seemed to me that all this. i practically didn’t have parallel novels, a bird sang to me that you have a country house for guests, where there is a giant tent, you have a great time there, guests come to you, artists, you constantly do some concerts there, a house appeared, like everyone else, first let's make a dacha, come on, where there is a plot, there is, it is in the area of ​​the krekshino station, well, they put foundation, and for five or seven years we just watched it fill with water, i said, maybe we shouldn't build it , look at this pool. it turned out great, in the end we built it and as they say in the cartoon, the house of friendship, well, we built our house of friendship, later, and alyona herself came up with the idea of ​​putting up a tent, and i came back from a tour, i look, there's a miner, a huge tent, well, i know, maybe as big as this studio or where you can see it now, wow , huh?