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why do they have such a closed lifestyle? there was some kind of self-sufficiency in them together, yes, there was some kind of rejection, maybe of what was happening around, yes, that is , andrei vasilyevich was quite, no, later , when perestroika began, age already, when after oleg nikolaevich efremov had already left, yes, there was already some kind of closed life, and how was it at home, what kind of life did they have, that too, when we were students there, we ended up in this apartment. on kutuzovsky prospekt, also very fashionable, stylish, that's what i remember, that white walls, few people did that back then, yes, everything is hung with paintings by andriy vasilyevich, he is also an amazing artist , simply amazing, very strange, too , despite the fact that here we are also talking about this modesty, isolation, such intelligence, intellect, and the paintings are crazy, simply crazy, his vision of the world is so, so colorfully distorted , some kind of peculiar perception, that's all that concerns portraiture.
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and i remember how i was entrusted, and i'm not very economical, frankly speaking, and i was i was ordered to chop some parsley, and i , unlike you, larisa, i'm not very economical, i chop this parsley, she comes up to me and says: why are you doing this, i say, what about the stems, why chop them, pluck these little things, chop them, i remembered for the rest of my life that the stems of the parsley need to be taken out, although i myself had no idea about it, that is, she is such a top-notch person, they always fed us, treated us to these endless conversations all night long, they were also very educated people,
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with him there was some kind of authority for us just crazy with him could normally exist here are the guys who were older there here again kozabrosnikin such a team we had, yes we are all classmates friends, and the girls were all we were little after school and we of course were afraid of him, well we had one who was not afraid of anything, but she kind of came later, she was also yours also ours yes, but she kind of moved to us after academic leave and there was incredible fear, and...
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myagkovym, since i was still in his group, i understood that he treated me very well, i felt it and of course he, he was incredibly long with me, i hated etudes there, i could go out to do etudes, and i didn’t want to, it didn’t work out, and i said, that’s it, i won’t do it, i left, he kicked me out of classes, i cried, that means, i walked around kicked out, then there was a very funny incident when we finally came up with etudes with my classmate, well , like etudes, what does this mean, you went around, something happened, and you change, change, i say, sasha, here we are entering the classroom, i hit you in the face, you cry, and we leave, here is an event and we, we entered, i jumped on the face, she was sobbing, and myagkov said, well, now let's do it the other way around, and i remembered this very well, that is, he raised us like this, and he helped me a lot, because he took an acting job with me in the second year, it was tsvetaeva's blizzard and they gave me the role of an old woman, it is written there in tsvetaeva the old woman all 18'. century i
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cried a lot, why did they give me an old woman, i was terribly worried that the girl is still a heroine, and i am an old woman, so he is with me in verse, as you understand, tsvetaeva, so he suffered a lot with me, because i understood everything inside, but i couldn't reach that volume, that breadth that he needed, and i remember how he was already jumping in front of me, showing me everything, just with his hands, everything as it should be, at some point, apparently, he told me, well, what else should i do so that you? played and i felt so ashamed, i took it and played, as a result i again had a plus in skill, but this is myagkov, he turned some kind of lever in me, so that i began to open up, to open up or something, so he was very patient, delicate, but i had no head, no brains at all there was zero from the word absolutely, when we were filming together, and i understood that he was old, well , my mother's age, and somehow, well, he was not brilliant, he did not court. it is clear,
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everyone always looks at young actors, andrei vasilyevich, no, i was not afraid of him, but i always pulled myself together in front of him, so he somehow sternly sternly minded me with his presence. he sternly sternly minded, and he could hiss something like that, help at some moments, say, wow, yes, yes, yes, i remember what a good word he sternly minded, he he was also strict, for example, we were not allowed to laugh loudly, because you are sitting there, reacting to someone who is playing something and ha-ha-ha, well, how suddenly, such a stern look, yes, it means that you can’t, you can’t express your emotions, he hated bows, right? that is, when bows are built, everyone bows for a long time, even to music, such a separate play, he thought that it was simply absolutely unintelligent, they came out, bowed modestly and left, what are you saying, now they simply stage a whole performance with these bows, and all this is in us remained, and you there to your students yes always
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here also some of these things from them already , he had two words, and for him here simply the biggest curse was this do not omikshonstvuy, why i still do not know what it is and nekabatinstvuy here. in the novel and in the irony of fate an alcoholic, not an alcoholic, and you are a very drunk person, but everything is on such a top such a little figure, yes, nowhere overdid it, because nowhere played out, here everything is no more, no less,
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really, yes, well the organic is amazing, amazing, also very strange that here such an intelligent, seemingly soft, modest person, and such a powerful acting nature, yes, characteristic with such a spirit, yes, that it will always be like this, why was i brought together with such personalities, and it seemed, yes, you know, i regret something, here is my inattentive fate, why didn’t i listen, why didn’t i ask questions, why didn’t i try to learn something, to spy on something, to adopt some experience, i regret it so much, really, andrei vasilyevich,
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a cigarette, smoked it and then said, i ’ll teach you to smoke like a gypsy, this is when you take a drag and, and andryusha podoshyan taught me gypsy, also my classmate, by the way, also a student of andrey vasilyevich, well, in general, i really regret that i had to sit like a fool, write everything down, watch with all my eyes, but i had some kind of my own young life, i wanted to do everything here and there, but then it really seems that you have... time, i also really regret now that i had to steal, so i've been asking to communicate more lately, but, but it was difficult, and he, andrey vach, didn't even come to my performances, that's it i called him already when i became a director, started staging plays, i say, ansevich, come and see, he never came, at some point i say, well, why don't you
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come, and i'm afraid of being disappointed in you, and he jokes all the time, all the time, what if i come, what if i come, i won't like it, i 'll be disappointed in you, well, how, well, what do you say, tell me, why are you masha, if you're marina? and according to my passport i'm marina, when i entered the studiomkhat school brusnikin immediately called me masha, everyone started calling me masha, but i'm like marina i have never heard of it, because i was later baptized as masha, the only person who called me marina was oleg nikolaevich efremov, he was called marin until the end, but everyone calls me masha absolutely, i was baptized as masha, i was baptized already as an adult, that when the child was born, i was baptized as maria, that is why i think that i have absolutely two names, now rarely does anyone call me marina, everyone calls me masha. this happened with the light hand of dmitry brusnikin, you were also wonderful couples, everyone always talked about it, very beautiful, very somehow correct, ideal, well yes, i was very lucky in life, very lucky, and i continue to live all the time as if measuring myself and thinking, what would dima
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say and how not to let him down, what happiness was, dima also then recruited courses and taught, yes, this is a podcast of letters, i remind you, my guest is ... maria brusnikina, what do you think, did they suffer that they did not have children, or was it an absolutely meaningful, such a choice, i do not know, you don’t ... interfere there, this is their personal life, i do not think that there was a meaningful choice, they nieces, yes there were, with whom we were very busy, mash, well it was a great love, simply great, i don’t know another such example, but is it true that asya loved detective stories very much, when she had already reread everything and suffered from the fact that no, well there is nothing fresh, there is nothing new, he said, i will write you myself, he began to write detective stories, they were successful and there was even a film adaptation of one. from yes his, i read, i bought , read, called, said that oh, how
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interesting, yes, yes, yes, for her, for asya, for his beloved, well, he was generally fulfilled, i think, when we talk about this closedness, and he was fulfilled in these pictures, he wrote, yes, he was like, well, yes, this is some kind of conscious departure from public life, of course, a conscious departure from the theater, well then, of course, he was engaged with anastasia valentina, who was sick, and if she was engaged in something, she... well, in addition to her main profession, i think that she was engaged with andrei vasilyevich, they were engaged with each other, yes, but she generally loved poetry very much, she read a lot, she always had some plans, when she had a plan to make some program, she would also call me there, read to me all the time into the phone, so akhmatova’s element, she is simply akhmatova for her, and somehow she, well, here are the books, the house, look how interesting their fate was in the cinema, the theater, she started acting early... major vikhri, yes, the first roles, where she was young, beautiful,
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extraordinary, she is generally a bright character actress, yes, she is a heroine, she was a beauty, and that’s how she announced herself, and andrei vasilyevich did not suffer, he did not have any complexes, yes, that he lives with such a young star, and then everything changed, she was invited less often, and andrei vasilyevich set conditions, yes, that he would act. he helped her a lot, that's for sure, that's why fate works out this way, but here we can't say anything, no, of course, that's fate, but they were together, there was no jealousy of the other's success, no, i think there was great love and respect, it was, it was, and some kind of service to each other, it seems to me that this is so, i envy it so much, as i would like, that's how love, in such respect, at least to live a year in your life, okay, larisa, even a year? well
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, everyone has their own destiny. it's now, when students are finishing, finishing their fourth years, i just have this now, this is my favorite formula, yes, that in general you should not envy anyone, and not compare anything, absolutely everyone has their own destiny, here is your destiny, where else are you, now these shows in the theater, everything is different for everyone, this is a terrible time, by the way, there is also a story connected with andrei vasilyevich, when he recruited a course after us. here we finished the course nikita vysoksky, the course leader, it was a very bright course, a very bright course, you too, well, we have it, and well, they just didn’t get assigned, that is, they finished them , they didn’t take anyone to the theater, what a troubled time it was, and they got into this hole, it happens, but for andrei vasilyevich, well, it happens differently, but for andrei vasilyevich, this also speaks about his character, he never set foot in the studiemhad school again, he said that he wouldn’t teach anymore, because if he spent so much effort on people
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, led them somewhere and something to them - well , he promised anyway, it turns out in the profession, no one needs it, then he will be more porous with this business, look, when well, even natasha negoda finished this course, it was the first year of perestroika, when everything became possible, when little faith everything happened, it seems to me, with such an attitude to the profession, as andriy vasilyevich had.
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he began to write to save himself from this, apparently, but they traveled a lot, they were actually very connected - as a human with volodya pinchevsky, also our classmate, who went to denmark and... they communicated a lot, went to see him, traveled around europe with volodya. volodya somehow looked after them for a very long time, but there is an amazing letter, which, volodya has it, a letter from andrei vasilyevich, and where he writes about what death is in general, and volodya read it to us somehow, and after some time,
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what year is this letter, approximately, it was already somewhere around, well, maybe two years before he...
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how interesting, well, never, it's not it was advertised, that's for sure, yeah, the last time i saw andrei vasilyevich was at dima's funeral, that was also so amazing, because he came, he was already feeling bad, it was obvious, well, he came, that was the last time we saw each other, yes, but we loved him very much, of course, and in general, that was some kind of beginning of life, and with such a teacher. yes, there was so much humor, so much joking, it's impossible that these same fools, all these ficlists, brusnikin the goat, these are separate people, we had some kind of rehearsal at the theater in amkhata, well we were still students, for some reason we rehearsed in amkhata on tverskoy, which is this big hut, which is now kekhmanovsky named gorikovo, which and there were cars parked there, and he is fashionable, andrei vasilievich, he is in
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a car, he is driving, then there were only a few cars, here is this zhiguli, and near the theater in the parking lot his car was parked there. it was, and these fools, you see, got chatting and rolled his car away, they just rolled it away, from well, like a little bit around the corner, and they are so pleased, you see, they arranged everything so that they go out to the sasi after the rehearsal, so happy, since there is no car, in general , for some reason everyone thought that he would be very happy to laugh, like their jokes, but he had one, he was so, in general, i remember, angry, upset, walked along the track looking for where his car was, so, they turned the deputy, it is standing there, well, what idiots, remember that andrei vasilyevich very very very somehow ... he did not understand this humor here, and what was his reaction? he swore, swore at them very much, but it did not work out, he did not appreciate, he did not appreciate, this i didn't appreciate the humor, no, well there was a lot of funny stuff, of course, it's incredible humor in a person, incredible, i still somehow always appreciate it in people, if there is humor, excellent, you understand, it means he is a normal person, he never
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pretended to be anything, he never tried to please, he always had some kind of readiness, and... such composure, you know, he almost died during filming, and there, it's a shame, he was captivated by the episode when he is sailing on a boat towards a swallow, and it is very close, i just don't know the name, that's what it is something like that, a propeller, yes, and he was very close to it, to this propeller on the boat, he rowed up, and it sucked him in, it was scary, it was scary, because... when the glasses and hairpiece floated to the surface, and andrei vasilyevich was gone, and the boat was empty, everyone understood that he had died, what andrei vasilyevich had gone through, it was completely incomprehensible, but there was no hysteria, nothing, but thank god he was alive, i
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can hardly imagine another actor in his place who would have reacted like that, there was such a reaction, because everyone was scared, imagine how... the cameramen, it was scary, well, that's it again such responsibility, and directors, speaks of human dignity, of his inner culture, well , many could learn from him, this is a podcast of letters, i remind you, my guest is maria brusnikina, i think all the time, after all, about the cruelty of the profession, here andrei vasilyevich, sasya decided. to close themselves off from the world, their right, and these ubiquitous corporations, who in recent years have been tracking them somewhere anyway, they filmed the not very healthy asya, a heavy one. and andrei vasilyevich and how much warmth there was, here he held her hand all the time, all the time, well, yes, well, you started this topic with internal culture, there really
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aren’t many such people, yes, and when you encounter them, you then start measuring yourself, and these people, yes, because it’s clear that we are all incredibly emotional, explosive, temperamental people, but we are also artists, yes, and as if at that moment, when suddenly, suddenly something like that happens to you, i very... often actually remember this school of andriy vasilyevich, this restraint, and this is very rare, well, yes, this is internal culture, this is like respect, respect for the people who are around, and for yourself, for yourself, as sasha once told me, the ficlists, and sasha is also a wonderful classmate of ours, he was always such a peacemaker for me in many ways, he was so good at putting me in my place, i am such a temperamental person, i remember how i once expressed some of my opinions, and sasha suddenly said to me so calmly: are you sure that you are always right, and somehow i remembered this once for the rest of my life... or what is intelligence, sasha said, he said, well, you know, you are driving a car, let the other one pass, and it’s also so simple,
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andriy vasilyevich had, yes, respect for the other, not for himself, although it’s clear that there was probably a sense of his own importance and his talent, yes, but this respect for the other, he and a serious attitude to the profession, this is what he put into us of course, and you know, he had some compassion and... i’ll do it better for you now, oh, thank you very much, i’ll go and do it, if i, i say, yes, i don’t like it, but look for something else, that is, i can’t, and andrei vasilyevich is
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i understood, and he somehow began to help me like that, he began to close me off, to block me, i understand it now, i understand it now, then it seemed to me, well, yes, well , just like my mother helps me too, that is, you then took it all for granted, well , why not, an old man, he’s 42, how old, well, for now, for the second? old, well , anyway, he was already old, well, he was still something else, uncle, uncle, yeah, but in this film you vibrate so much because of this, because of this tension, apparently, because of the fact that i just recently got there too, i think, it’s just that such a person, such a vibrant person turned out, larisa, oh, thank you , that’s why andrei vasilyevich, of course, happiness, that’s for me and gratitude to him, that he was in my destiny,
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a bright star, then no, well in the theater, then we worked together for a long time, played together in the seagull and also like that, yes, of course, and he introduced me to the seagull, that is, we came, and you called him andrei or andrei vasil vasilyevich always navy. i also called him formally, but andrei, i decided so myself, i think, i artist and i will be so formal, but i called everyone formally, but by name, no, i also usually call everyone formally, but here andrei vasilyevich is not, and he led roma, lena mayorova and me, the three of us were introduced to the seagull, before that vertinskaya played there, katya vasilyeva, masha, i played masha, lena played nina, roma, andrei vasilyevich and andrei vasilyevich introduced us, and i also remember how he did it, how wonderfully he did it, why how is it all, there are solid stars there. maktunovsky, there, of course, there yustegneev, there, savina, around, yes, there was lavova, no one went to our rehearsals, so megko set everyone up, introduced everyone, then, when we met at
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the rehearsal on stage, these taxis walked away, innocently, i was very surprised, as if seeing that there were three new performers, that is , megkov played for everyone, he played for all of us somehow, and he was also so wonderful, but he was of a level, well, not lower, you know, what surprises me all the time, that's why i think, for example,
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that it is so personal, in general, everything that concerns poetry, it is so much that you you feel, reading this, that it is so personal that it does not need to be transposed anywhere, i just remembered it, despite the fact that with the volume of knowledge there is a love for poetry, personally no, publicly no, singing no , how interesting, yes, although this is also part of the acting profession, this is something so personal, yes, but he himself, he rarely allowed himself to read poetry or sing something, but how amazing, what a beautiful life 80'.
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throughout life always evoke respect, look, and how he fell in love in the first year, and asya came, he saw her and understood that she is his woman for life, everything turned out beautifully in his life, she reciprocated his feelings, she also saw something in him, yes, she saw it, for me it is just a model, this couple, well now on the grave nearby, brusnikin is not far away andrei vasilyevich for everything, and asya outlived andrei vasilyevich for a long time, i do not remember, they just looked after her, they were, yes, of course, there is a completely wonderful artist foundation, yes, this organization, and they got involved, its director of the artist foundation olga, she helped a lot, because there was also quite a difficult situation, that asya did not accept, as it were, nurses, not all, not at once, then she still got used to some woman who
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helped them wonderfully. there were always doctors and everything, that is, here is the background artist, just a huge for, andrei vasilyevich did not need, so he left, that is, there was enough of everything, there were also doctors, care, yes, and then when she was left alone, yes, but she is also quite she, she did not let you come to her, that is, you, you could not come, she did not let you come to her, that is the only thing that can be it was to do, it was through the artist-foundation to organize all this help, like care, they did it all, a big huge gratitude to them, how... it's great that there is a continuation in his students, you have a brilliant course, and you are somehow special, here are all those listed, well, here they are, and some kind of charge in us and efremov, ikhova borisovna, well , yes, this charge in us, apparently powerful, it's true, well, you in general, yes, at 17 you don't understand anything, into whose hands you fall, yes there, well, it's clear efremov never took course, you have to go to efremov, because here is efremov, but you mekhkov and your idol are sitting there, i
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will never forget. how ironic it is, my sister and i were in a winter holiday home, some kind of tourist center, when, i remember, i leave this room, it is empty, it was empty everywhere, on the streets, it was empty in the dining room, no one went to the dining room, there was a tv, a foyet and therefore a pipe for a wooden one, people were hanging not only on the chandeliers, the whole staircase was filled, everything was filled, wherever possible, everyone was sitting leaning against this tv, and outside the window it was still snowing, the dining room was empty, no one went because everyone was watching the irony of fate, understandably, it was of course such...
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the cast of the letter is my guest, the honored artist marina maria brusnikina. thank you and you, thank you very much. hello everyone, on the air of the first channel podcast everyone wants to fly, and i am the host leonid yakubovich, 79 years old, 79 years separate us from... that great forty-fifth year, 79 years ago we were given a great day, a great holiday, we were given life, let's
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remember today those who lived 79 years ago, fought and worked in the sky, about girls, aviators, about those slam... glorious girls, about whom songs are composed and about whom a huge number of stories, novellas, poems have been written. in the ranks of the air force, the workers' christian red army , three women's aviation regiments were created at once in 1941. nothing like this has ever happened in world practice, and i think it will never happen again. the idea of ​​creating these women's aviation units belongs to marina. she is one of the members of that very women's crew, which went all the way to the far east. she went out in a letter addressed to stalin. the letter was signed, the order was received. and in september
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of 1941 in engels, on the basis of the local flying club, the 122nd aviation group was created. the command, which was entrusted, naturally, to roskova. in october. the group began to work, three regiments were created, the 586th fighter, with yak7 and yak-1 airplanes, the 587th bomber, dive bombers petlyakov 2.2, and finally the 588th night bomber regiment, it was called nb, the regiment of light night bombers, they worked on polikarpov 2, that's two. the plane, which i'll talk about a little later, was the first to leave for the southern front on may 23, 1942, the 588th regiment, the history of this regiment, the combat history began, that is, in 1942 in the city
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of morozovsk, this, this, i'll tell you now, this is the rossovskaya region, it ended on may 9 , 1945 in the city of svin mündle in germany, this is the path the regiment went through, the combat path. 890 days of combat activity, the volga, the north caucasus, kuban, orsha, smolensk, vitebsk, the baltics and finally on may 9, 1945 in east prussia, the 587th regiment completed its work, this regiment personally. here , one caveat must be made: unlike the women who worked on dive bombers, and who worked on light aircraft, well , light aviation, night bomber
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units, fighter pilots , to be honest, were not trusted, well, for many different reasons, firstly, overloads, secondly, psychophysics is not the same, i must say that this of course... had an effect, well, for example, i can say that the regiment commander tamara kazarinova by order of the deputy people's commissar general gromadin was removed from his post and major gridnev was appointed in her place. the regiment itself ceased to be purely female already in 1942, however, several women, several young girls, young women showed iron character, it must be said, honestly and achieved their goal, in the fall of 1942 a group was formed consisting of the best female pilots of the regiment, who were transferred to stalingrad, here we must remember an outstanding, of course, female fighter, this is such a lidiya
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litvyak, her call sign was liliya, she in in an air battle, she shot down, according to various sources , either 10 or 13 aircraft, i assure you, it ’s not easy at all, ekaterina budanova... six, according to various sources, eight aircraft, finally, klavdiya blinova, either three or five, this is the result of the best female pilots, fighters who fought in the sky. the 586th fighter regiment, carried out most of its combat work in air defense, during the war , a total of 38 or about 40 enemy aircraft were shot down. now, therefore, these were the specific results of the combat work of female fighters. it is believed that the flight the personnel of the female 586th fighter aviation regiment during the war produced. some incredible amount, something like 4,420 combat sorties,
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it must be said that the 580th regiment was renamed into the 46th guards bomber aviation regiment, taman red banner order of the suvorov formation. the 588th regiment of night, night light bombers existed until 1943, and then for its merits, for military merits, was renamed into the 46th guards. regiment of night bombers, well here it follows, so stop, the thing is that the regiment, which was, as i said, formed in october of forty-one, fought in planes that were called two, in general, initially this was a small plane, it was called u2, a training one, from, i think, from thirty-sixth year it existed in aviation and was suitable exclusively only for for...
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before the war she flew in flying clubs, was an instructor, she became the commander of this very regiment, hence the name dunkin regiment. i flew on it, i flew on it on this little plane, i probably already talked about it once, an amazing plane, simply amazing, it stayed in the air, no matter what, there were many cases when, completely soaked through, it still reached home, there is one peculiarity, here in front of you is this plane made of metal dough and iron...
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now i will tell you what the difficulties are and what the secret is, so, the plane has a 100 horsepower engine,
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it is practically inaudible and in the air, the combat use of this plane was quite curious, but what they did, they approached targets, climbed to 400 m, turned off the engine, glided down completely silently, and somewhere at a low altitude began to drop bombs. hello, this is the news on the first studio maria vasilyeva and at the beginning of the issue briefly about the main topics: from the ground from the air in the kursk region the positions of the invading ukrainian militants are ironed by our artillerymen and army aviation crews. summary from...

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