pour some wine, cornet, pour some wine in olenskaya. ah, russian sun, great sun, we can't change the ship's corsair, couple, galitsyn, or maybe. let's turn away, why do we need a foreign land, my friend, why do we need a foreign land, my friend, the village has been burning for four days , sweating with rain, the don spring. everyone throw down their cartridges,

the border is coming soon for everyone, put on orders for the officers, throw on your pontoons, the border is coming soon for all the officers, but there are orders. when you traveled around the world, a beautiful russian girl, singing beautifully, playing the guitar wonderfully, probably just hundreds, there were thousands of fans and no one proposed, there was never even some thought about how vladimir semenovich vysotsky married marina vladiya. the thing is that in 1983. i came to omsk

and met this absolute miracle, and he, gennady panomarev, he worked at the omsk philharmonic, he himself was from the city of tolya, he had been my fan since 1974, the first disc that came out was gennady's, he came up to me, said that he sings songs about the silver age, and i was into singing sebono veka, i say, well let's listen to this interestingly, he says, well you know, well these are songs, i say, i love poetry, but... how i love to read, then we met already in tula, i arrived in tula, somehow out of the blue, i had such an administrator mishenka, i say, mishenka, let's go to the table out of the blue, well, well, god, when he leads, it's a wake-up call, of course, of course, everything is from there, everything good is from there, i arrive in the tula philharmonic, i go to a rehearsal, there stands this miracle of mine, with huge roses, like... a feather with a dandelion like that

there stands a modest one, i say, oh, it's you, he says, yes, it's me, that 's why we met, that's closer in this he gave me his cassette with his song, i listened to him overnight, then took him to my concert in some city there is a culture novomoskovsky, in my opinion, yes, gena sang his song here on stage, i heard him, i realized that in front of me is a talented person, he needs help, and i gave him my phone number, and he got me on...

in the way of life, here zhana sang these songs not only in russian folk songs, we had a cycle, a russian cycle, with a song we russians, the song that was blessed by patriarch alexy i himself, you understand, this is also worth a lot, the song about the holy royal family was written in 3 years, forgive me, and some priests say that it made a significant contribution to the glorification of the holy royal family, you understand? i thank god that the lord sent me such wonderful people as gennady, vysotsky, once said well, whoever has many friends, has no friend, this is very, very important, so yes, that's why it is exactly like this in my life, i offered zhanna to perform the song vladimir, yes, his songs, what songs did he offer, domes in russia are covered with pure gold, he came up to her backstage, well , tell me, it was at one of the concerts, he came up to me and said, jean, i want. you

sang my one of my songs: i cover the domes of russia with gold, pure gold, yes, how would you agree to sing this song or not, some time passed, i thought, called and said: when i was standing backstage, listening to her, yes, i understand him very well, yes, let's sing a song, yesterday i saw you in a dream, yesterday i saw you in a dream,

and enjoyed complete happiness. oh, if only it were possible, i would never wake up, trustingly on my chest, you tenderly bowed your head, and i whispered, i love you, i love you quietly, repeat. today i see in reality, i alas, something completely different, no, i will not deceive myself again, i am

a willful dream, a mockery, an evil look shines, and your speech. prepares torment, as if it wants to separate, to prepare for our separation, and i thought that i do not live, that my soul strives for paradise, alas, it cannot reality. that wonderful dream will come true, your gaze is capable blind, everything in me is empty and insignificant,

why is it destined to love, what is impossible to achieve. why is it destined to love, what is impossible to achieve, yesterday i saw you in a dream, and i enjoy complete happiness.

this is a podcast 20 years later and we and its hosts alexander anatolyevich and konstantin alexandrovich mikhailov. our guests are people's artist of russia, zhanna bichevskaya, and her husband, composer, poet, gennady panomarev. young performers are probably watching us, listening to us, they are very different now, very different. please, on their behalf, i ask, give them some advice, for those performers who think that a song is a product, that a recording is a track, that you need to write a hit, not even a smash hit, that's what they need to understand and hear from you first-hand to become more interesting, more serious, better, you

know, let's continue the theme of love, many young people dream of a beautiful, good love. why look for some kind of your own couple, you need to first of all think about what you are into, what interests you, what kind of music, what kind of poetry, are you empty like a drum, yes, or is there something in you there is something, take care of yourself, there is not a single righteous person here on earth, the apostle paul said, but still you need to be interested in yourself, be interested in yourself from the side of art, culture, ours, our country of amazing culture, the deepest, is interested. classical music, listen to bards, read classical poetry, if you do not do this, then you will be

unhappy in your personal life, you will have bad children, because you will not have a meeting of love, you will not understand each other, but the most important thing is against the background of my terrible tragic life, i always tried to be a cheerful person, i tried to make people laugh, even as a child i made my friends laugh, i say, let me make you laugh, and you treat me, and i made them laugh, they treated me, so since childhood i learned to make people laugh, not for candy, not for cookies, they laughed because - people have a very hard life, you still have to brighten it up somehow, you joke with a person, it seems like he smiles at me, something has already thawed in him, you understand, something has already come to life in him, people are now dead, they are afraid to breathe in and exhale, they are afraid of everything in fear, fear rules the world now. and where there is fear, yes, that's absolutely right, and fear suppresses the free will

of a person, fear kills, that's why i try to be so simpler with people, because that's why i say, as zhanna vladimirov calls me, i say, no, she calls me more simply, i am zhana, i am for everyone zhanochka, i can say what my favorite song in your performance, in the film of 76 in the documentary, find your song, it's called, yes the film, if i remember, it's a concert that was filmed... vostankina interview with zhanna, by the way, i highly recommend watching it, it's called, find your song of the seventy -sixth year, the song of the inaudible noise of the city of glinka, a wonderful song, yes, but only this is a russian folk song, a russian folk song, and no, glinka's music to glinka's music, to glinka's music, yes , it's surprising that at this concert a lot was performed, if now, let's say, to formulate then russian folk hits, but there was the most applause for this song, i look at the applause, because this is not the result of my work, the applause, my

the result of my work is when a person follows the path that i show him with god's help, it's not always good, you understand, but it's good when you see glowing eyes, when people come up to you and say: you know, your songs, the head doctor from the oncology center on koshirka called me one day and said zhana vladimirovna, you know, i... brought songs, spiritual songs, songs about the novels of the novel, kanka to the sick, i carried them around there so that people would listen, and some, patients with the last stage of oncology were healed, and i asked, yes, all, he says, a lot were healed, but not all, because the evil were not healed, that's right, because where there is evil, there is no god's grace, and god's grace heals, that's what spiritual songs are for, especially with such performance, so if we started talking about this,

thank you, it was a podcast 20 years later, its host konstantin mikhailov, and alexander anatolyevich. if you have suffered a failure, if you are unable to dispel the melancholy in the soft autumn. in the quiet autumn, come out quickly to my spring, in the soft canopy,

i will fall asleep, come out quickly to my spring, behind the spring, to the white temple. the old cemetery is forgotten blood. russia left us, if your eyes are clouded with moisture, from the spring, splash on your eyes,

you can cry, calmly cry, who will figure it out. here is where the water is, where the tear is, you can cry, calmly cry, who will figure it out, where the water is, where the tear is,

behind the spring, the white temple, cemetery, if you are sick, bedridden, then let you dream of a healing spring, and if you are sick, bedridden, let you dream of a healing spring, behind the spring.

hello, you are watching precious stories, my name is ekaterina varkan , our guest today is natalia polenova, the great-granddaughter of the great russian artist vasily

dmitrovich polenov, director of the polenovo museum-reserve, and today we will talk about this wonderful place, i even. very much imagine how all this immensity, we will be able to fit into such a small amount of time that we have allotted today in our podcast, this is how it all began, my favorite story, natasha, you know, yes, how vasily dmikovich polenov with his friend and student konstantin korovin they were riding a boat on the oka, being in a cheerful, happy, witty mood, and they were sailing past a hill, and polenov liked the hill so much that he said that although...

he was attracted to nature as a child, he was attracted to the coniferous forest, and he really loved these very pines, coniferous forests, and

he really wanted to live somewhere far from the big city, but he came to his main idea of ​​enlightenment in the russian provinces much later, having already settled in polenov, initially he simply i wanted to be in nature, and of course tarusa played a big role in the fact that vasily dmitovich settled in these places, because the family of ivan vladimovich tsvitaev had already settled in tarusa, tarusa was already becoming some kind of epicenter of creative life, we also call it the russian barbezon, and vasily dmitrich , having found himself there, of course wanted to be somewhere nearby, so he saw byokhov, this idea captured him, he told his wife how nice it was there, and his wife natalya vasilievna also writes in her letters that...

canvas, who among you is without sin or christ and the sinner, this canvas is now in the russian museum in st. petersburg, in the former imperial collection, and indeed, even before the opening of the vernissage, the imperial family came to view the exhibition of the itinerants, and alexander ii became interested in this canvas and agreed to buy this canvas, as they say, even for his billiard room, that's after vasily dmich made such a... well, for himself, a very profitable deal 30,000 rubles, but with silver, that is, not just 30,000 rubles, 30,000 rubles with silver, it was a large enough

sum for vasily dmich to make this purchase of his life to buy this estate of the ruined landowner sablukovy, where there was a small temporary outbuilding, where the family moved, settled, but they were attracted by the neighboring hill, the neighboring hill belonged at that time to christian.

his idea was to create such an art academy in the open air, that is, polenov as a child of his time absolutely, he was imbued with this spirit of creative brotherhood and unity, what we see in the art circle in abramtsevo, well and more broadly the school of the barbezonaites, nazarenes, pre-raphaelites and so on and vasily polenov, since he really grew up as a creative person and was formed there...

to build himself a dacha, and so that it would be a dacha with meaning, that is, so that people could come there . therefore, his idea was, of course, not just his followers, students, his close friends, to organize fireplace evenings there, creative, literary evenings, they could gather and... as a result of this such creative conciliarity could give birth to some new creative idea or some artistic direction, why not, because we understand that polenov is still a representative of the school of realism, and his students are already modernism, and mikhail vasilyevich nesterov, and viktor mikhailovich vasnetsov and so on, therefore, probably, this transition from the academic school of realism to the school of modernism. this, probably, took place in such artistic nests as polenov and abramtsevo, of course, as now, probably, there is such a fashionable word, they say

influencers, that's it. well, probably, vasily dmikovich polenov in his own way at that moment became such as an opinion leader for the local community, and this is very important, because in this, it seems to me, was the key to preserving the estate, preserving it. the peasants who came to vasily dmivich, he led, he received them at his place, he gave them tours of his house, he himself was the first tour guide in his own house, he created his own exposition and... showed it, told, and after all, the collection of the house of vasily dmitrievich polyanov, it is, in general, well originally a private collection, collected by four generations before him, of course, his father, of course, his grandfathers, his uncle, in general, all the relatives, who up to gavriil romanovich derzhavin, who raised about the grandmother, with whom it all began, who in childhood took her grandchildren to

the tambuv village. she has an amazing, what an appearance she has, on the other hand, a kind, sweet grandmother for her grandchildren, she was their real grandmother, it was she, left a widow at 33 with three children, her husband, a war hero in the twelfth year, general alexei vasilyevich vaeikov died from his wounds, he participated in suvorov's crossing of the alps, in

the battle of borodino and... so on, he was gone, she was left a widow with three children at the age of 33, she devoted her entire life until the age of 80 to preserving the memory of her husband, raising first her children, and then her grandchildren. we continue our conversation about the polenov estate, and today our guest is the director of the polenov museum reserve, natalia polenova, who is also the great-granddaughter of the great russian artist valenov.

the ceramics collection grew, then, which is very large in the current polenov museum. well, i want to say that, so to speak, opening this question, this is that already when vasily dmikovich polenov was only 4 years old, his parents noticed his artistic talent. to tell about this, well, there is a short story about how, being on summer vacation in tsarskoe selo, the family went to the zoo and there four-year-old vasya. drew an elephant in a very outstanding way, his parents immediately noticed his, so to speak, talent, artistic talent, so parents really developed the creative, creative direction of their children, and first of all , mother maria alekseyevna, the daughter of alexei vasilyevich and vaeikov and vera nikolaevna vaeikova, the granddaughter of the architect lvov, succeeded here, as you

understand in those days. the woman did not work and could not, so to speak, participate in public life, was engaged in raising children, but maria alekseyevna, she herself was a good artist, as evidenced by the large collection of graphics from our museum, she took lessons from such an artist moldavsky, plus her husband knew karl brelov well, so in general they exchanged opinions with the creative intelligentsia in every possible way. therefore, vasily dmitrievich polinov from early childhood, his parents encouraged him very much, during his travels his parents also suggested that he sketch, well, plus they, of course , always brought some souvenirs, some artifacts, they formed the basis of family collections, including there, for example, we even have an ancient greek collection, even an ancient egyptian collection, these are things that dmitry vasilyevich

polenov...

he saw an amazing thing, like, for example, a small crocodile, so you come to our museum and see a small crocodile, tiny, where did this crocodile come from, my favorite crocodile, well, great, katya, eh, it's not only your favorite crocodile, it's also the favorite crocodile of all our children 's groups, and this is unexpected, yes, well, where did it come from, for example, yes, in the art museum in such a generally central place, absolutely right, and why is it in the central place? i'll explain, because during theatrical productions, when theatrical productions took place, it was lowered so that when the light played, it could increase in size and depict a dragon, for example, or something like that, that is - it took

part in all sorts of family celebrations - and theatrical productions, but so it is located yes in the exhibition of the room, which is called the library. eh and do not forget that the stress is on the word o, so it is considered that this is an old petersburg one, namely not a library, but a library, that is what we call this room, and here here in front of the fireplace - with the family coat of arms, with the family heraldry, this little crocodile, he is 13 years old, well, that's what the experts say, in general crocodiles live up to 300 years, well, actually , all these collections, they have always been accessible to the public. well, today it is a museum, we understand, it is accessible, but earlier, when it was generally a private house, it was all open anyway, these collections could be viewed, people came, that's exactly how, when the house was built, vasilyich polenov immediately

put these collections of his on display, there are really a lot of collections, and there is painting, and archeology, and decorative and applied art, all of this with amazing taste. done, because polenov is a real aesthete, what can i say, his house speaks about this, his park speaks about this, his whole life speaks about this, and his fate, this is a man who lived according to the laws of aestheticism, beauty, well, in his absolute, so to speak, horizon and section, and this is the house of a man who truly has impeccable taste, but one cannot help but say that he was also a great lover of music and even composed music, and musical...

listens to how they perform, but polenov wrote in general, so to speak, as a composer, one can say that he was an amateur, after all, you can’t call him a composer at all, but he wrote spiritual music, he has an all-night vigil, he has a liturgy, he wrote - several romances on the elements of his favorite poet mikhail yuryevich lermontov, and even wrote an entire opera, ghosts of hellas, which was staged on the stage of torussky.

students, colleagues, brought it to exactly as to a museum, but i want to tell the opposite the story about the thing bought in the largest room of the museum library.

it consists of many things were presented, for example, there is such a picture of abramtsevo ilya efim cherepina, it depicts the terrace of the abramtsevo house and a small female figure, this is the bride of vasily dmich polenov, natalya vasilyevna and kunchikova, they met in abramtsevo, they got married in abramtsevo, this is the work of repinskaya, it was a gift to the young spouses for a wedding, then many other things, for example, the work of cows. in principle, this is really so a very good collection that

polenov collected either from gifts from his students, or other artists had such, there was such a tradition to exchange works they liked, that is, if they liked some works, they could exchange, but vasily dmitovich polinov decided to buy the crow to support his student, but you can say the star of this...

this is a podcast with a precious story, and today we are talking about the museum of the estate of vasily dmitrich polenov, they told about the crocodile man, there is also a cannon, it is surrounded in the collection sabers, which on the one hand were props for painting some pictures for vasil dmich, on the other hand, props for staging, well, performances, but there is this cannon, which most likely... a small one was used for fireworks on holidays, but there is also a unique saber, you told me, and this unique saber was presented by the montenegrin voivode mashvorbitsa, to vasily dmirovich polenov, as if at the time of the turkish-serbian campaign, in which polenov participated, polenov volunteered for the front, and few people know about it knew, well, somehow, yes, this page of the life of vasili dmich polenov, it is somehow less known, he was quite. then young - first he went as a volunteer to the front, and

then he also worked as a correspondent for the illustrated magazine bee, that is , a war correspondent, by and large, he spent several years as a war correspondent for this illustrated magazine bee - at the headquarters of the sovereign emperor, he served in rushubkom from already in the russian-turkish company , the russian-turkish company, when, as it were, the turkish-serbian one had already passed into russian-turkish, and there again we talked with... ourselves in the same headquarters was the grand duke alexander alexandrovich, who later became alexander ii, their good relations, perhaps, played some role later in the purchase, but they knew each other from childhood, because vera nikolaevna vaeikova, the widow of alexei vasilyevich vaeikov and babasha, the grandmother of the polenov children, she had a certain status as the widow of a hero of the war of the twelfth year and in general, so to speak, a grand lady, as i said. that's why this allowed her and her grandchildren to relax in the tsarskoe

selo in the summer and the polenov children played on the same playground, as if with the imperial family, so there are also memories of this and polenov himself recalls this, recalls and his son also talks about this, so they had contact from early childhood, but of course the rapprochement with the heir occurred right there during this turkish. in battles they have military, deservedly military awards, and here we have them, this is the serbian takova cross, and the serbian medal for bravery, below, as i understand it, where is approximately the st. george medal, this is a medal in memory of the russian-turkish war, when he was at the headquarters, here are two absolutely

here it is even written for participation in a cavalry attack, that is, but here is what i noticed, that he did not have... many terrible things were described that he saw, but he did not reflect it in any way, how can this be, he could not go through something, we have, well, firstly, i remind you again that he worked in the winery, well, how would we they just said, yes, he worked as a special correspondent for the illustrated magazine bee, if we take the file, yes , if we take the file for those years of this illustrated magazine bee, there are a lot of

very expressive sketches, which formed the basis of his own reports published in the bee magazine, well, and what i want to say about why he didn’t depict the horrors of war, well, firstly, because vasilyich still had a different credo, he was a landscape painter and we are great we know his wonderful and life-affirming paintings, a moscow courtyard, a grandmother's garden, golden autumn, an overgrown pond, even everything...

it seems that art should give happiness and joy, otherwise it is worth nothing, there is so much that is hard in life, so much vulgarity and dirt, that if we were to be showered with horrors and villainies from paintings, it would become almost impossible to live, so it seems to me, so to speak, and this is the life position of vasily dmitrievich polenov, so it is not surprising that he did not depict these horrors, why, so that she would give it with the picture, well, yes, well... as they say, here is such a positivist, well , we are all intrigued, you brought to the studio, here is a samovar and fragments of a diorama, a diorama is my favorite thing, when i come to polina, you know, the first thing i do, what is it, how can i explain it to people who have never seen it, well

, first of all, since i came from the tula region, i came with my samovar, here it is standing, and it is not just. a samovar, it is a historical samovar, it in general, so to speak, accompanies several generations of the polenov family, it is believed that this is that samovar, it is generally unique, it is called a spider, we restored it a little, it was, so to speak, cleaned, there are already such modern wooden parts, and it is cleaned, but this is generally a unique samovar, they say, they say that it just accompanied vasily dmitrievich polenov during his...