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tv   Up Front  Al Jazeera  November 10, 2023 11:30pm-12:01am AST

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shut down tomorrow, we will be facing a disaster. there will be there are some other departments like ac. you cannot continue to work without electricity, not even for one minutes. so we are going back to the middle age and can we continue to work with you? can we keep the i see you running without indic tricity? how can we do this manually? this is just not possible. we cannot treat our children. literally just there are some kids. there are some parents who could not have children for over 20 years. and now they, they see that they can not save those people that those children that they had after several years and they will just see them dying in the a c use because there will be no electricity. there are older, some other patients from other department. so dr. mohammed,
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if you allow me, there is a breaking news at an oxide. pre k are also a target in some machineries in the south. goes up dr. muhammed back to you. indeed, it is a disaster to see all the children dying, especially when doctors are there and they cannot do anything because there is no oxygen. indeed, if there is no electricity, we cannot produce any oxygen in the i c, u, we cannot treat any other patients in any other department. and i'm declaring it to the whole world here a few days ago i said, and i declare that we cannot treat it all the wounded. and now who did our dying? because we do not have any medical means or any way to help people receive
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ambulances arriving to the hospital. but inside the hospital, we do not have anything to treat them. we are trying to, to a very, very basic procedures because we do not have any means to take care of them. there are some patients who are dying and we could have saved their lives in a under different conditions. we, if we had medical tools, if we had the needed pets and the needed equipments, we could have saved more patients and the wounded people are also dying because we are running out of every single the hospitals are operating in, in volume in environment that is not allowing them to do or to provide any services we do not have any antibiotics either, and this will also jeopardize the lives of many wounded people also. so if there is an inflammation we would have to petite it or dismember the patient.
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so we are really face and severe consequences the are also many other diseases that are spreading because of the lack of medicine. so there are other children who died because they were not hydrated enough. they were dehydrated, so those that the cancer patients also who are dying in their homes and they just come for the death certificate. we are not being able to help anyone, practically dr. just to conclude. and that's what have been targeted from asked if a hospital please. we know that the bombing of hospitals is a war crime, according to cutting him hon the at the bottom of the prosecutor from the international court. so what are the buildings that have been targeted at our ship a hospital 1st, the course of the the hospital has been targeted and bombed as the other
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departments, including the external department that is now out of service. because we cannot receive any patient there and we had to transfer some patients into other hospitals . there are other departments that are running out of service decor. try courtyards, as i said, also is being bombed. even the i c u class is being completely shattered and the windows are being targets. so we need to to even move some i see you patients from the departments to another departments. and i think that's what's common is even worse. well, the decision to bomb ship a hospital is a grave. what is the international community waiting for? so that more it patients and more innocent children die
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more. i see you patients done. so what is the costs that the international community wants to see a span before they can intervene to stop this aggression? nothing is enough for the international community to ask israel to stop their aggression because the situation is becoming dire and disastrous. it is very frustrating for the doctors and the medical teams seeing patients would not be unable to help them and to treat them. can we send a more or additional medical teams? would that help? yes, of course we need more medical teams. but we need more things, we need the international community to stop this aggression at a job. we have hundreds and thousands of patients that needs to be treated outside gas in neighboring arab countries. we need to receive fuel and medicine and we need
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to receive power. metix, i know that many of paramedics and doctors are waiting from latin america from the united states and other regions at the worth of our weight. and just the approval and the opening of a rough crossing in order to come and help us and rescue us. but now the crossing is closed and not even walter or fuel is a lot to get in. we are currently a stain in our hospitals. we will not leave our hospitals and we will stay with our patients no matter what. thank you, dr. and well, how much will sylvia, director of, i'll ship a hospital we've just had extremely hiring test somebody from the director of a ship, a hospital. it is the largest hospital in the gaza strip. and so what you can see on the large screen is some the latest pictures of the training on the bottom and of a hospital,
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sick pulliam of smoke rising over the facility. and according to the, the delta apps, the ship a hospital, the courtyards has been struck along with the external department. he said, even the intensive care unit, he said to being affected by this bombardment, forcing the don't, has to rush people, some of them already extremely badly injured to other parts of the hospital, sugar and vinegar. as being used to sterilize williams surgery is being carried out in the total darkness without an aesthetic children undergoing surgery. it is a scene we gather from the doctor of absolute chaos. of the moment. what you're seeing on the top floor rights of your screen is another hospital also in the north of because this trip as l x a hospital where injured are arriving. we are not clear as yet where those things
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that are coming from. whether that the result of another bomb bomb and in different parts of northern gauze, or whether or not they are patients who are being evacuated from ship a hospital is the doctor who we just heard from. had been suggesting that some patients have been moved to other facilities for those we've been hearing now for days. nowhere particularly the in northern gaza as safe ship a hospital with very much being the focus of the x ray, the military maneuvers as they try to. and circle because a city in its entirety. let's take you now to the jabante, a refugee camp or where the body of refugee town has come to attack these off. false moving developments from the the 1st as none of the compass you
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may have been following over the past few weeks has come under repeated attacks by a strategy forces not any. and then i mean, the school was hit and the jabante a company a several days ago. another major incident a couple of days before that the killed large numbers of civilians. jim, they need to know. so if we join the dogs here, if we join the adults, what we're looking at is multiple intense attacks all over the north of the causes strips, the jabante a refugee camp because the, i'll ship a hospital, we've got facilities, i mean because of the injured civilians many of them being rushed to the l. x a hospital, an awful lot going on simultaneously. let's go to the topic of it is a who's in the cause of tribute to us as life of con unit us in the south of the gaza strip. and tara, cuz i was saying that a tremendous amount of activity going on simultaneously. let's start with what we
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know about the ship. a hospital as it was saying, it is of course, the largest medical facility in the cause of trip already under a huge amount of strain. and now it faces this incredible bump up and yes, uh the uh, the surrounding areas of chicago hospital had been sent into into a battle zone and when palestinian fighters and it gives me the occupation forces is ready, occupation forces are pushing forwards, empty, but to reach the she felt hospital in order to check the military infrastructure as basically that exists a beneath the, the medical complex. now there was. busy military troops who are trying to inflict trait and will have been locked by the palestinian scientists who are right now having to fight exchange with them. i talk getting them with different onto tech silos. classes could clearly be overhead, indecent, from areas of the city. now it's worth mentioning that the hospitals to now is still flooded with people as even patients who are really running low on food and
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even medical supplies. now what they can clearly see in the background and even in the vicinity, obviously if a hospital, if something comparable, they are talking about really dangerous and even unbearable bottles that took place . the file exchange did not stop for more than a 30 minutes from now, and as the, as by the occupation, also announced that they are expanding their attacks on the territory and even intensifying the number of these by the rates. over the, over the shots you were to decamp and the surrounding areas of the hospitals as well. all right, so kind of carrick for now. thank you very much. the, the update that topic up is the, in the con eunice in southern gaza. let's bring it in, tanya hodge. hassan, who's a pediatric intensive, can't don't work for the doctors without borders. she's also the co founder of gauze at medic voice, so she joins us from amman. tanya has us on a welcome to you 1st. so your response from what you're hearing tonight coming out of an open, gaza, particularly in and around the ship a hospital. i mean,
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it is terrific. the director targeting started last night. obviously, this is not the 1st time this week, but uh, quite heavily, overnight last night. they hit the entrance of a to the hospital, the emergency department entrance as well as the bad side of the hospital. they also hits the labor and delivery or directly. so one of our colleagues, such as a footage of smoke coming from the top of the hospital, i'm sure i haven't had a chance to watch uh, the news footage that you've shared on. i just need it today, but i'm sure you've shared the the, the entrance of the hospital and the compound that was hits and the, the, the massacre of internally displaced people. there were at least 13 people killed. there were, there was blood everywhere. there were, there were refugees on the floor and a complete leg amputation from from the explosion, hemorrhaging onto the grounds. children that were dead lying on the ground. i mean,
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really, really sick, terrific images of hospital compounds. and ever since then, i mean, we've received repeated reports, colleagues working from us stuff, have sense testimonies in of the hospital being bombarded of them, trying to figure out how to find safety colleagues in and out of shift or, or are begging for, for international intervention. and we received this message from the director of surgery at and ship, like you said, your colleagues, the situation and she for now is extremely dangerous. we as the medical staff went to me, but we cannot, we might not survive till morning. we don't want to be killed here, not only because we remains committed to our patients are just only because we made committed to our patients and our medical profession. i am calling for help, urgently. please do whatever you can to your government or through the international red cross, to arrange
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a state of court or for medical stuff. please treat this as top urgent. but i'm sorry, go ahead. this is the 4th hospital, the 4th or 5th hospital in the last 24 hours that has been targeted. i, i am speech with this is prohibited under international law. it is to take this know and tony. i don't know that you'll find the option of hospital is a work crime our colleagues are, are, are in there treating patients. i, i have no more words. every humanitarian provider, x rays, you measure in doctor, every organization has been out there for weeks saying this has got to stop. and every day there's a new level of atrocious roof with impunity with which these crimes are being committed. they are crimes against humanity. i am meeting with leaders with, with, with, with individuals, with organizations,
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wherever you are. if you're listening to this you, i, i can't imagine your humanity seeing anything other than this has to stall tanya. to stay with us. i'm just going to remind of you as of what they are seeing on the television screens at the moment. but because we've heard now, if this is friday from bob, but it hits the ship a hospital that is the largest medical facility in the gaza strip. it's being regarded for a long time now as a safe haven for people trying to escape and avoid the conflicts a dr. tania hodge hassan. you know the hospital well you can only, we can only imagine the strain and the pressure of the doctors that are on the and now this bombardment where could possibly the people who are in the hospital, many of them injured, many already need of die, die support where could they get to where i could they estates i
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don't know. i mean all the international organizations have been the same for weeks . it is impossible to is actually the patients that the hospital with, without giving a death sentence to these patients. there are intensive care patients on the fence leaders. you cannot transport this patients. one of my colleagues is the search and describe it's actuated this morning on a donkey carts and on slips with snipers and tanks, pointing out her and, and, and cruise things being yelled at her by that 5. it's really soldiers i and, and, and just speechless. i, and i'm sorry if you hear the anger or frustration, desperation, sadness in my voice, all of those things are true. i am genuinely fearful of the level of impunity which, which, which, which, which fits, is happening. these are all unprecedented. a crimes against humanity
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in modern times. we know better as you say, according to the international criminal called the targeting of hospitals in any complaints is a war crime. it's a lot to me to make those conclusions because it we might be seeing on our screens live all possible crimes that would of course, need to be investigated. and as far as your concerned thoughts, atanya hodge us on the world is simply not listening. i mean, you, you've been around this this month. so just as i have you watched the united nations boot an overwhelming majority over a week ago, the general assembly included for a few moments during a choose for us to use fire. and yes, we're still war mongering, and we're still actually no, don't we? i don't want to be included in these crimes. but the silence is deafening and it's,
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and the silence is consistency. be international leaders who are still of the strong thing of ceasefire. are complicit as well. i don't know what else you as a physician and just to be so. so i am i am speaking to right now from a clinic room because i'm in the middle of a visual of health care providers in london in the united kingdom. calling for cease fire. i have so. so a way to take this call because i understand how urgent it is to get this new job to the world. we are thousands of health care providers. thing enough, enough. this is not, this is not, this is not, this is not the world we want to live in. we've had extraordinary testimony from some of you will talk to colleagues, people, i'm sure you know, who talks about having to use sugar and vinegar to sterilize williams about surgery, particularly on young children and young people happening without anesthetic of. 2
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a scene of absolute chaos and desperation, but nevertheless, doctors professionals doing the absolute most to keep people alive in this perfect situation that they find themselves in. it is very difficult to imagine right now to continue functioning on to that kind of pressure their, their heroes. i don't know what else to say, their heroes and their being murder on a tv, on like tv for all of us to see if they are, they are health care professionals who did nothing but dedicate every minute of the last month to their surviving the patients that they possibly can, and despite that, despite their, their calls for international intervention, despite the s o s that they sent out every single day for the past month, it is falling on deaf ears. i wonder if you can focus through what the hospital was like before this conflict because even then conditions were extremely difficult for
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health workers. now, i cannot imagine, it's impossible. i mean, it is, is going progressively worse every single day. but you mean where we were, for example, yesterday, before these, before these bombardments or in the last you know, where, where, where, where we before october, the sufferings in terms of the kind of health care that was on offer. given the huge amount of strain, the people of gauze are already under before this recent conflict on the obviously started on the type of the 7 oversights we'd go way further back than that. but i want to get a sense of the deterioration prior to october. the 7th to now so this is a 16 year siege the says the population of god was at least 2 thirds refugees, even before so stuff. and so you, we've got
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a strip was already in a situation where the medical providers for strangulated, have limited access to all the things that we use for modern medicine. but they mean, do they are extremely resourceful. committed really world class experts and what they do in resourcefulness and making the most of their circumstances. and they're also streamlined, dedicated health care providers. i, i have, you know, people ask me what, what doctors and nurses and paramedics are like in the gaza strip. and i say that they, they are the ultimate medical merits, they eat free sleep, their, their, their profession under service and their duty to their patients on my way to do it under various circumstances and, and they have been doing it in a on like myself. you know, i can travel and learn and, and, and, and do fellowships and get more training and, and go to conferences. they do all of this trust in me in this open air prison.
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and now they're being trapped in an actively targeted in the line of duty in the hospital as they're trying to care for patients. it has been a doctor, tanya, just, i'm one of the most catastrophic moms for, for you and workers as well. i understand as many as a 101 employees have been killed in guns over the months. a tremendous amount of pressure on doctors and in this unprecedented situation that's playing out for the sorry. yeah, go ahead. at least and at least a 192 health care providers as well that has been killed, including colleagues that i know myself. before i let you go many who were killed during the line in the line of duty. well, they were actually on shift working. dr. tania, just um, before i let you go and we appreciate you taking us through all of this and what is a, a deeply, deeply upsetting thing to have to witness what message if
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a tool can be sent to? well, the latest policy makers looking at want some folding here and the goal is to strip tonight. i mean, i think i think their hearts, if they have one is, is telling them the message. the fact that i have to sit here and say it's tough to stop that, that's 4000 almost. if you include those traps under the rubble, is there whose bodies are trapped on the rubber over $5000.00 dead. killed children is enough. it's more than enough enough in the hospitals targeting hospitals, at least 7 or 8 hospitals in the last few days, directly targeted by military is enough. they know, you know, you know what the answer is. the answer is stop, stop this. and so i'm going to say what i have been saying for the last month,
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which is ceasefire. now immediately, no truces, sorry, no, call this an actual ceasefire right now. opening up 100 humanitarian core doors for the delivery of age and a listing of the siege. the message has been the same from a humanitarian community. the message has been the same from the civilian that the braves civilians have taken to the streets for, for, for the last month, protesting including hundreds of thousands of jewish people who are standing up in the same email ceasefire. now dr. tony hutchison pediasure tests of cat adults. uh and uh, we'll circulated with doctors without borders and we really appreciate your time. you'll kinda until looking us through what is a devotees? devastating, seen on folding. think of that tonight. thanks. okay, well let's bring in another guess, margaret harris who's
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a spokeswoman for the world health organization. she joins us from geneva just to bring our view is up to date because the secular general of the world health organization is actually being speaking in new york, addressing the security council that updating them of the situation on the grounds of margaret. if i could firstly, get you to comments on what you're hearing, what you're seeing on fold in gaza, and obviously these alarming scenes playing out to them around the ship a hospital. oh, it's terrific. it's unthinkable as a doctor myself, as somebody who has spent my life wanting to save life. i understand why all the medical stuff, a bed and still looking after the patient still doing the best with him. know the supplies, how many, many more patients. and they can deal with and with the threat of this every minute
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i, i really look your previous guest of the old words. it's on, i just cannot, cannot, cannot imagine reaching this point in my life where the world would watch this and not to the what, what we, all humans must want to see happen in fist or the cx 5. but obviously the basically generally, as i mentioned, the 60 general of the world health organization, the organization is being addressed with un security council. he's been reminding them of key points in this conflict. on average, the child is killed every 10 minutes and cause a he said one and a half 1000000 people have been displaced and looking for shelter, but they can't find it. i mean, the list goes on. this is unprecedented situation. i wonder, to what extent the world health organization and the united nations in general can really deal with any of this. so what we have to do
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is what we are doing right now is an insisting that well doesn't look away that the world understands what we are all investing happen, and insist on the safe spot so that we will health organization can do our job. bringing the supplies, bringing large amounts and supplies, bringing teams to release those poor health workers. we've been working non stop for the last month and give them a some risk bite to do something for the those hundreds of thousands of people who are suffering. i think i'm there, hold on all the things. oh, you know, day and they down it has got to stop. we know, of course that's the possibility of pause. this has been moved since we're still waiting for any concrete evidence of that. so for the time being,
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i just wonder whether pull is, is a really amounts or anything. it's all we've heard already discussed with about of the immediate need for a lot of things. these 5, i just wonder how much time hate agencies, medics extra support. start. how much they need in terms of time to be able to make an effective difference on the ground when it comes to relieving exhaustive stuff, which will be working 247, and hospitals getting aid. so those people in need of it. i mean, clearly 3 hours a day, 4 hours a day isn't going to be enough and it's not nearly enough. we need sustained, unimpeded access. so you've got to have safety. that means that no, you're not going to suddenly stop bombing everybody or shooting everybody in another couple of hours. we have teams, we've got many volunteer teams who are ready to come in. we've got the supplies, what we don't have is the safe unimpeded access. it's access, access, access,
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communication, if any exists with b, s rating authorities. i mean you said you've got you've got the facility, use gift cards, items you've got so much needed aid ready to go where exactly on the border in egypt and israel. what, where, where is it likely to start from and how it's on the board. and so we've, we've a flight in huge amounts of supplies the in the lariche hub. but also, um, once you know, is that you can get it through the border. it's packed onto the trucks and through the through it goes. but as you know, already 600 trucks have gone in the last couple of weeks. that's about the amount you'd have in a day in normal times the need is quadruple. well, 10 fault that hundreds of 10 fold because of the severe injuries, the salvation malackle who is
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a that everybody is suffering and gaza. so with the full use that needs to go in are enormous, bought a not guessing in one of how can i ask you this question, who you feel is responsible for the a binding of many of the doctors we've been hearing from this evening working at ship a hospital working out of the hospitals, up and down the gaza strip. it's not really a role to assign blame. and i think i would put it in another way as your previous speaker says, the people who are working in those hospitals, they have because they are there to save lives. they are there who is people who are absolutely committed to the value of human life. so we're all responsible because we old should recognize the value of human life and we are not putting enough pressure on those.

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