some videos with each will state across, especially when the sheer number of images difficult to process. an image that is drawn by cartoon is using methyl for and sometimes symbolism. it can be something easier to take and then the actual images of people who are dying. but at the same time, it has this double effect or appealing to the various levels that are, can be translated in the mind and then touched the person very viscerally. schiffer was uses her out by the discussions like this call teen. so the question itself, i think is not something that is right to be asked. and i want to show that easy to everybody was the watching dog for 75 use palestinians. have you sucked or with this multi lead messages to protest against these radio occupation? when we use the culture as a tool for this, as,

as to look at raising awareness about our situation. now we are fighting against their and prove again that we are really that's we are as opposed to new people. we are, we have heard, did you have? ok, you have to check. and i'm not that bad people as they want to, to, to the big us. well, how much savannah was detained in on his radio in 2013. but he, truth, right? and his sketches are collected in the book, palestine and black and white. in early november, the washington post protracted a call tune off to being accused of racism towards our ups and palestinians, and veterans, cartoonist at the guardian, steve bow lost his contract accused of using anti semitic tribes. mohammed says the risks come with the job which has been used against us as opposed to just do it on the go to as well. they are protesting, broken start. it only when you,

when you want to good size, it is what i do with the ex use because you as you are, we are exaggerating that, not that much of the expression pressure details. and we, we add the cues as on some of the one of the most famous palestinian cartoonist was knology ali who created the character handler personification of the palestinian people. it's come to symbolize resistance against israel. noisy ali was assassinated in london in 1987. but handler lives own and so to does all of the classic artwork created by divide palestine image and kinda out 0. that's it for me. thanks for watching. coming up next. it's upfront by the getting close to the people most effective by those in powers of interest. but it's

actually the voice of the stories to be told we've pushed as far forward as we can to the front line. now, the smells of the powers. a lot of the stories that we cover a highly complex, so it's very important that we make them as understandable as we can do as many people as possible, no matter how much they know about a given chrisy. so issue as long as you say, we're correspondence, that's what we strive to do as the death toll continues to mountain palestine, how can a diplomatic or political solution be cheap? and has the west helped or hindered efforts to in the conflict? with last, the former prince invested it to both israel and the united states. gerardo wrote it up for inspection the your honor roll. thank you so much for joining me on upfront mr. ro until very recently, a french president and manuel my chrome was one of the only western leaders to call on israel to actually agree to a cease fire. and guys the saying that there was quote no justification for

attacking civilians. why do you think that chrome was the 1st to speak up on this? what actually in, in the sounds good. so it was a bit of balancing act because the very beginning of the crisis has made very, very poor. he's highly dig a ration. and he has been criticized of to watch to be unbalanced. don't really deal francy is that we have the 1st jewish community o w united stage and we have the 1st the most important muslim community in your hope. so there is a partner about balancing act because between these 2 communities because of course, uh the, the defends use off, mainly supporting his child and the french mostly. and so mainly supporting the battery scenes. so it's, well, i should say it's a, it's not, don't you think that i show a problem for us. he's also a domestic boy to go to problem. so the french authorities are,

can be doomed to find a ride to balancing position. it's interesting because even though it's a balancing act, as you say that chrome was still able to speak up before a lot of other people in the you. why do you think the problem was among the 1st to speak up about this a? well 1st i should say that most of the european countries and the majority of the world beyond countries because of the harvest men because of the atrocities of what have my says done our mainly our shoot, 14 hours reporting is filed around and that is also the problem and studying the memories sending from the 2nd world war, which makes most of the a little bit and countries very cautious about criticizing about could you sizing is filed, especially that's especially to gaze off. of course, of, of gemini, most of the old, it is still in your building countries, all facilities for board use high or whatever you file is, is doing. so, you know,

sense it was up to friends, to try to a, to speak up. but as i've told you, it has also to be uh, to have a balanced approach, very associates higher end versus the better gm's because of our domestic constraints. is that why it took so long to call for the things where we were still weeks into the environment? 11000 palestinians had already been killed by the time he called for a cease fire. what caused the delay? well 1st i think you have to understand that uh the description of the atrocities committed by to have mass as created. i should say a lot of emotion in there. you won't be in public opinion. what happens when, how much has done these sol renders be owned and you description that, you know, says everybody has considered that each file has the right to defend itself. and

that you, in any case, the immediate area probation, you guys eyes very difficult because of, to me, you have a self, you not be terms. so i think it does being a slow process of willy, off of moving for really the, your been very weak opinion that it's been moving to washed of board or standing there use highly is you know, the die mass. com all for truce, all the die mice come for a ceasefire on november 20th from twitter. you, you said it's not being a military expert. i refrain from commenting on the is really operation in gaza, but i do not see it's credible strategic objective. now, here's will, of course, states it's objectives, are a return of all hostages, the destruction of masses, of military capabilities, and how much is governing capabilities up? why do you believe that these objectives aren't credible or strategic? you know, that's, that's a question. you know, really on one side, uh, you know,

when, if your issue where there is funny going month on october, the h. uh, the question mark is water is why you go ahead and get that done. and it was not going to negotiate. what would that be in your advice and your advice would be, well, you have to negotiate with the high mass to get the release of deal stages because it would have from there. and we only talked or strategic victoria, you have to have mass. now i think donations, you made quite shown is, what is the start? did you go off of the off of these higher because, you know, is higher, keel was and actually is killing some high mass achieves is high, all calm, destroy and these destroying. so i'm how mouse infrastructures, but at the end of the day, we know that there will be in you have mass cheese younger, you know, coming uh you know, where your items into a free moves and needed to every infrastructure we'd be able to build. so you've

got an doubt saying to this, to go really same set to day, but what, what is the goal of these filings? and at the same time you can say, but use high l was a life too long attribute to real or engulfing should be based on what you just said. one could believe that is real, has no choice, but to accept the long term presence of him as if you're saying that they'll always be reproduced. there will always be new fighter is new structures, new weapons, new sources, new resources. if that's the case, it is, is real to just accept the existence of her mouth as a practical matter to the problem. and again, the atrocities of october, the 7th. it shouldn't be considered only has willie a one time event. a task created a new situation where for a need is how you government in the is why you don't are not, it will be impossible to negotiate with you to have us. it's, it's,

it's really so renders, that only dates it's such a national, total amount. and if it's so natural or full, my 1st choice to do is of course in a human sense, but also this touches the feet. so it's clearly and that's the reason why i'm quite presume estate because i don't see, i don't see any way out to be frank. because if i could think of a strategy victoria of the file, i would say ok now going to to try to, to, to, to reach this the school, but i don't see it. but at the same time i don't see, oh, we could. that's what and you negotiation. so i, if i fear that we haven't, you know, did there and, and that is why at least going to go on being bomb being and mom being. but i just, at the same time, you know, really if i use that, you raise guys up what we'd be different because how much we're still be there. we're still going toward the territory. so it's a very, it's a,

it's an already goal. it's a 20 and only boy situation. you also said the october 7th massacre was not only a human tragedy you say, but also a strategic defeat. for israel, the mit of it's in vital lability is broken. it doesn't have any credible way to restore it. if that's true, is you say, what does this mean for israel moving forward? what's at stake as well? the soonest? it's impossible to identified. i should say, your and state over the operation, which one did i store the up? so with superiority g off of the is highly a media jury, a practice that there is a big question mark for, for you style and, and the future. you can have, i think, 2 ways of uh, forward one would be basically saying, let's go back to the play. october's a 7 situation. we're still really best a best morning drawing,

assist them on the borders off of the guys that sweep really, you know, says going back to, to stay to school before having given or less and put it back this year. and so, you know, trying to think in terms of these heidi's, you know, you know, sense what they did a 1190 and 206. you'll remember that way it was there. you can make a comparison because the as well i had a success. oh, really unexpected success? kidding. i think age is heidi soul use. there is heidi is a really invaded lead, but no, there was no identifiable objective, but at the same time, during that structure, this was search that the next call out to adopt her as well. i was obliged to apologize to delay by niece, and i'm sure that it starts from getting on to day folder as board off know, doing to of, you know, to bring back the destruction of a button dirty by nice dirty, but useful relation. so maybe that's watch these higher, these are trying to do the really making uh the,

the population of the guys i suffer so much that next time i think the people are more dial to have boss never again, that's may be an explanation. i should say, no, says i think it's the most likely i would come of these crisis and that would be a 2nd way forward, which would be a negotiation. but on the, to watch the 2 state solution but negotiating you need to sides. and as i've said, there is most bodies inside because the body shop to the door, the storage is credited. you know, it does not face the election since 2006 and have minus after what you does done is not acceptable. but these are the side item, neither. you don't have a side full negotiation because the front right. got hard, monday's 25 government. you still 3 against the idea of creating a parish in state. and actually it was in the process and easy in the process of next thing the worst band last week. prime minister benjamin netanyahu met with

members of his party. and reportedly he stated, quote, i am the only one who will prevent a palestinian state in guys up and the west bank after the war. this of course, is contrary to the us and he, you positions which of strongly advocated for a 2 state solution. do you believe the u. s. b e? what other western countries have the cloud to pressure israel into a political resolution with palestinians as long as nothing? yeah. who remains in power? no, i think it's, you know, that's, that towards the party day was i was making the both sides of today unable to go to peace by themselves. as i said, nobody in leadership. and on the other side you have a nice, highly fall right government. and it's not all ready to question over they've done . yeah, we're in sales because you've got an improved i don't. yeah, we use 40 degree dad after the what happened on october the 7th. but what i,

i would think is what matters less than the uh, the government enjoys or at least grace heidi public opinion. because the majority of these heidi met, that'd be continuing. i think, is, i don't know. did you find these all, i'm not joking. i'll not working for peace now looking for security because it's a very because of the treasury, the story of the jewish people. uh, even if you can say, but these hired, these are secure g super power in the individual least. actually, these people are really deeply in 6 your and our duty convinced that actually to buy this, you want to to give them to expel them. and of course have joe don't go to simmons, it does have a interest, there is security. so what you have to do is to convince the this how the public opinion that actually is there are 2 states, it would be more peaceful and more secure for them. so since everything is

blocked between both sides in the gym for, it will be very important if the hub countries but also the, you and the united states, you know, really try to convince the ease haley's, that actually they can move forward. and so that's, we need a strong involvement of the international know to community it need to know the question of play. sure. because you know, putting pressure on you. so i never words. there is heidi's, are ready to raise these to, to pressure if they've gone through. the idea of security is, is that is at stake and, and on the american side, you know, more then they do it to us. it's not, you know, natick to or ear that you are going to see the united states twisting the arms of the siamese, even out of the onion, adored going pain. i doubt that will ever do it, but you know, net or to come in it, you know, the elect to oregon pain, forget it. so instead of the door,

king of prussia reading of pressure and again and do so, i just don't care about your opinions. i think it will be more, we have to be more positive creative a and we being the just do you want the uh, the uh, the emory goes to dell. do use holly's okay. if you accept and use buddies in state, at 14 kito make goes of that i leave at 5 kito metas off off the bin. cool. your now i don't, i shall know that bought beer. that's the package deal. you will be bought of do it for both of them. you do at least maybe you'll go, you'll get an you wouldn't be associated day to day. you won't be in you and your donate to, you know we, we have to find a to be, to find, create the creative ways to breaking to stay mate. in mid november, 10 french diplomats working in the middle east and north africa. i sent a confidential note to the french minister of foreign affairs in which they criticized president. my crones pro is real stance. they said that it ruptures

francis historically, as you alluded to earlier, balance to position on israel palestine. the french newspaper left the girl called this a, quote, unprecedented gesture in the recent history of french diplomacy in the arab world. what does it say that they felt the need to write this? does it speak to a kind of wider descent within the macro and ministration to? well, i think, you know, as i told you in the very beginning, the 1st reaction of, of a menu item i called to the doctor, you walked over 7. so tired was really a need a conditional support of, of each child and, and need assistance. i think he went maybe too far and, and the results back to you really, you went too far because after that it sounded as interest you fighting and approving degrees higher though you said you needed our intervention. we've or these consequences,

what these unprecedented actually is not the report of the different match. because of course, in the, the wordpress she, you are able and, and you are allowed to make your own. your view is known. the fact was that it was made public and that's is unprecedented because each age was of no more, i should say bureaucratic process made a normal, made public. and we should of course have po that is quite you sizing the prize. you didn't, we seem similar descent internally in the united states and similar leaks happened . there was a memo that was linked by political here in united states. that said, quote, when israel support settler violence and the legal land seizures or employees excessive use of force against the palestinians, we must communicate publicly that this goes against our american values. is that a sign of hope that both in france and the united states, your elite hearing about the same effect that is leaking to the public, could be a sign of something here?

no, and i think there is a strong difference between the fries in the us because 1st in terms of influence on the, on the region. but also in terms of, i should say try dish and order alignment off. i'm already gone for the c 235 to $2.00 days for the policy. the united states. as being for gauge now are you seeing countries seems demand to read control ends in 1991 and george bush baker died actually has been 100 percent. your board change as your board changes file, which has not been the case. so for all, for friends, don't insurance you between friends and you and you try. it actually has always been a bit uncomfortable. but i think on the american side, i've seen joe biden and knows that you count, as i said, for different reasons willie elect or to reasons in the us. but also the usual is highly reaction to pressure that you can pressure willie each file. so we

yes, tried to nudge is file, you know, i, yeah, bracy file, i said to class camera years there and i show to east ohio that diane, his best friend in the hope that actually is fired. we least said to me, to and, and unfortunately by doing these bumping into to upstate goals, one is that actually slightly is not listening to the u. s. as we say, as we see the sir to know in the, in the media gallery operation. and 2nd, is that actually it's very devising in the democratic bought cheap in or in the us, that suddenly, which is quite new. you, we have seen a touch tone bought. i rarely bought off the demo. catchy bought g, the left of the democrats and bought g to your to, you've seen bunch of dealer, you know, suddenly becoming very crazy, very critical of, of a child which makes which makes of cultural bi, done very, you know,

very difficult situation. goes into reading that we are that's do you the american salvo, gene in the 12 volumes? i want to talk about settlement expansion. it's something that you've been very outspoken about. you've talked about settlement construction and attempts to remove palestinians from the occupied westbank as a form of quote, ethnic cleansing. you've said that this isn't just perpetrated by settlers, but in fact, it's a concerted plan by the government to continue to annex moreland in the west bank. can there ever be a, just a political solution when settlement expansion continues? you know, i've been always very vocal about the question of, of settlements because, you know, i was young best suited to his file between 200 free and 206. and i traveled extensively into west bank. i know a 20 very, very, very well. i actually reached not the west bank. he's also in east joe who is that i'm and i've seen, you know, really the way the 2nd amends set to amend policy was moving forward. and i have

thought to settle those and you know, the cetera is all very uh, really frank, what they are doing is to make a data you told your compromise impossible. because basically they make a petition stage and boss impossible. big because it will be, is now very narrow is it will be very difficult for a new site. you're going to watch, create them and, and you'll come gina g, nobody's you in state, you're always or this and you set the months everywhere. so, you know, says my, my stance was not so measurable or stage not even to legals because of goals set that have been to set their minds all legal on the international real where each of course, violation of the full fi, uh, convention of geneva. but i think it was for digital, you know, if we'd be leaving a 2 state solution, we should condemn a, we should fight against the sit there monday. saudi set them on policy. and here i

see you're going to criticize, i'm not criticizing, not very goes, i'm not done very good, but you can purchase either. you won't be on union, you know, willing you, the, the, you won't be in you and you're in a sense easily. but when he wants to have more or for rain policy and a wants to sure, bought a 2 state solution. that was, i think, the point and on this issue, it as really each who died being active. and recently, since october, the 7th, the settlers are taking advantage of the situation to do what they called actually, what they call you franchise. and i don't, i didn't find the item installation of the day or it makes it as a clean thing. you don't need go, meaning that they really, they do a 20 village by the age. they do a 2170 lee or really they, they try to push the adult age. we've actually and the parties, israel can you the other way because you know the domain, you start off national security g 3 is how do you mean yourself national security

is a really fascist. and i'm not using this were a really easy lead. this world is really of a fascist, is being weapons to the settlers and, and basically they can do whatever they want before you go. uh, you recently stated that quote, diploma. the theme is not the long sobbing of the violins of autumn. it is grappling with reality, getting our hands dirty to piece together in, in perfect world, which will remain in perfect. it is moving within the realm of what is possible, even if it is not the realm of what is desirable. uh, i was struck by it and want to know what does this mean as a matter of practice, what does this mean specifically in the context of, uh, guys, uh, and israel or israel and palestine more broadly? you know, it's exactly, you know, really, it's a, it's a, it's very, it's a, it's funny that you, you are,

i do it. i knew donna slated actually the 1st bar to use a verse of, of boy tree. and which was used to announce the day, day to differentiate existence on the, on the bridges radio. more seriously of what do you, for instance, you know, when you told me why don't we put what you know, the us and your blood pressure on the, on the east, how you go, my mind, i think has the people that my reaction was sort of free i did speak reaction, which may have surprised the common man dominion just treat really say what these to hear. well, do the world he's a fair was them are against all know going to do it. and secondly, excited. he's not going to gave it, you know, really? oh, so i was trying to find something practical by dating. you weren't using board don't use to try to convince the if i need, do you saw the public opinion? so is to date, into account what is possible and, and you can do, you can say,

but a, h h, in a sense, it's unfair that why do us to doing good? we don't tuesday um, so these are these yes, each on fail, but life is not the same place. that's the that's, that's definitely energy. and so that's really, that's the way off as an expert trying not to express my opinion, but really saying to the people, i'm very active on the french media. and very often i'm could you size a full that saying, ok, i understand, you know, really for his dance, of course, you probably nice to when the war because ukraine was the victim of, for the aggression. but unfortunately there is a real world. so what to use and what, what she's possible, and so that's, that's what i'm trying to do in my, you know, most of my, my modest way. thank you, sir for your time. pre say, joining us on upfront. thank you very much. bye bye. all right, everyone,

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