to what the us and by so the to the united nations had to say a year ago when the us in that situation was trying to get the security council to adopt a resolution. and was worried about a russian veto resolution to protect civilians. but this time in ukraine had a very different line out of the us. that's listening to what linda thomas greenfield had to say. last year we've seen reports of a tax on kindergartens and often that just babys newborn babies in an intensive care unit have been evacuated into make shift bomb shelters to we have a solemn obligation to not look away. the people of ukraine will soon need food, and water, and shelter, and medical aid. they will face displacement and lose everything they've worked to build. for these reasons, we and i'll be in the,

in consultation with our allies in partners have proposed this draft resolution holding russia to account for his aggression against ukraine. there is no middle ground. any doubters, i say, look at the kindergarten that was bomb this morning. take a hard look. so colleagues, this is a simple vote today. let me put it plainly. but yes, if you believe in upholding the un charter. is james listening to that some of the woods that if you just take out the headline of ukraine, babies, people needing food, water, and shelter, people facing display. so i mean, those are exactly the souls of tubs and woods, which international human rights groups and you and experts are talking about in gaza, but kind of times 10. right? yeah, i mean, her last words, it's

a simple vote today. you go to stand up for the un charter or not the you and show us. it is pretty clear. international law is pretty clear, and in 6 and a half, how's the us will get the chance to vote for a permanent and demetrius c spa in garza, the expectation is the us is not going to take that same stand that we hud. uh then that's on the screen feeling like it's looking like they are going to beat. so see swap and allow this will to continue. and that's going to mean lots of allegations . i think of a pop chrissy and double standards of the compared with the comment. so you've just heard, i spoke last week to the brazilian president little of the silva. he was using those words last week. as also was telling you, send me one that's a resolution is voted on. it was the way that came up with the wording of the reservation that we voted on. as i said in about 6 and a half hours from now in a 2nd, the security council meeting, they have a 2nd meeting because they're still trying to persuade the us regional for

a ministers of got a going later on in the coming, asked to see the secretary state and to the blinking you a as a site sponsor the resolution it was has to be sponsored by security council member . but all the members of the us, the other member states, can also co sponsor a resolution. i've just heard from the you and i'm from the source of the you and in new york, there are 55 now nations with the co sponsoring that says that's pretty strong. so the un membership, right, was they also interesting, james, when the un secretary general, so to resolution to 712, and said basically he can no longer feel full this mandate. yeah, that resolution said that they needed to scale up like you've been to terminate. and he said on the opposite way, now say he's saying that you can scale up the bouncer 80. his i'm on the secretary general for humanitarian affairs is basically said they can't conduct humanitarian operations anymore. they can do what they can, but they come and have a proper humanitarian plan because of the endless bombardment up by these riley's,

he's also saying in his speech, which i thought was really worrying that he feels that the next stage and garza could be stop ation. disease and a complete breakdown of public order. well, the un secretary general did have some critical strong words of condemnation for how mass. but it was interesting when the is riley diplomat spoke, he spoke of the root cause of the conflict being him, us. what he didn't mention is the decades of occupation, what international human rights groups and is really human rights groups like bates tell them, call a pol, tied none of that in the picture of why we have conflict in this region. no, it all stops in these riley speech and all the arguments you have from these, right? the government at old stops on october, the 7th, nothing before. and in fact, at a previous meeting of the security council, this extra general said that this doesn't happen in the back to. and that's what,

that's the 1st time the is riley ambassador. and then these ready for a minister called for the secretary general of the united nations to resign. they don't seem to be repeating that goal today. i think because they fear it will alienate countries around the security council. but somebody from everything i'm hearing is the only country really that needs to be influence on the security council right now is the united states, i think possibly you get an extension from the u. k. a. but see the other countries i think will be supportive of the you a resolution when it comes so size. that's what i'm hearing. that was also notable that the un text or injury un secretary general, i should say, spoke of the intense bombardment and hostilities and these rainy restrictions on move wouldn't mean that un agencies simply con, reach people in need of the bottom line of this, i guess what he's saying is, if, if there isn't the seas, fine, forget the humanitarian, any humanitarian solution,

or a to help in any shape or form. what does that mean then james, if well and no seaside, these people are just left to the wind? i think i think that's the, that's the real danger is that there will be no humanitarian assistance for them. that will be the break outbreak of disease that will be solve ation. he says people are not getting enough food. i thought it was interesting and i'm trying to get a response from the un right now. i'm in these really ambassadors statement. somebody i've never heard before. he says israel would let loads more, right in this trucks and trucks and trucks, choose places go in. and he blamed it on the logistical difficulties of an international organization. it's the u. n's felt that food and health supplies and fuel and goes out urgently trying to get some response from the u. n. to that, because that is certainly not what we've been told from every single part of the united nations. the problem getting in is, is the permissions and the searches of israel wants to do. and the very limited capacity of the roof of border crossing, which, which is a bit of a trip point,

they're obviously otherwise, if israel was allowed to a, to open up its border crossings to bring in aid, which has refused to do until this point. james, take us through the process which you know very, very well, you've covered the one for a very long time. you've, you know, the ins and outs of that organization. what happens next? if this goes the way that people think that the us will veto it? what happens the morning off the, for the whole diplomatic momentum that's been building up? well, i think we know 1st we must say it's looking like for us is going to veto. but that meeting this afternoon at the state department with antony blink. and with us, any plans on minnesota ministers from let me just remind you, the saudi arabia, cutoff, jordan, egypt, the policy new authority and touchy they will be meeting said so that there was a chance that secretary blinking could be persuaded. but of course, he's then go to put to persuade president biden. but right now, as it stands,

having table christine just said from new york, having spoken to robert woods, who is the acting us and bass of the deputy, us and past that because the us and best of them to thomas greenfield is currently on a pre planned trip to namibia if they veto, you will have a situation where there is no spot where all of the things that we've raised all of these awful possibilities are probably going to happen. and that will just put increased pressure on israel and the us. and i think going back to this letter from the head of under, i, mr. less really, the next bit of action probably will move to the all the big old into the united nations. the general assembly, which already we've seen as, as cold, for permanency swap perhaps will be fresh, but i'm glad you mentioned that. go, can we expect this diplomatic momentum to move to the general assembly? and then what can we expect from the general assembly? the general assembly con, doing thing the way the way the, the, the you and shot to is, is arranged the power seats on this with the security council. what the general

assembly can do is show the temperature of the world what the world thinks. it showed it last time when the general assembly voted. but i think that the, the opinion of the world, particularly the global south, will be even stronger now. off to what they've seen on it, i think a general assembly meeting, although it comp change the us, his mind, it can certainly show us that the rest of the world is not a tool happy with, with its position. if of course, the us position stays, as we think it is likely to be with, with a, a veto on this resolution that is coming up a little later on in a 2nd security council meeting. james, stay with us. i want to keep you with us for, for the moment, but i do want to go to the product. assume he's in the roof in solving garza and thought, i won the is palestinians. even all able to follow to know about what's going on

right now that there is this diplomatic battle going on in the security council that might determine life and death situation. so many of them through a c's. fine, yes. some areas in gaza strip of pulling what's happening in terms of the level of diplomatic assets that had been made by different regional and international axes in order to de escalate the situation on the ground and saw the goals this trip. now the majority of them, they hope that these diplomatic efforts might, might to bring an end to for the bottling. and the book chip inside garza where the just had a generally before, dependent on that give she hancock tarry role in terms of breaching 2 different i show time, she's fine that throw at the palestinians minus to get a constant flow of humanitarian aids, including fuel gauze now these assets that had been made by all of those actors

will help to, at least to mitigate the situation on the ground as palestinians in the north and central areas of gauze and city are completely isolated from the world as the is read intense upon them with ease on those areas, had destroyed the majority of a telecommunication towers and a very few number of residents that managed to get some backup source of internet in order to have a kind of very partial information regarding what's happening outside in terms of the shuttle negotiations. and efforts made some audits and the confrontations that are taking place on the ground to inside the territory. meanwhile, tonic we have got a situation going on there. where underwood officials are talking about gaza being on the full, on the verge of full blown collapse test. tell us how desperate the search full basics of life like food and medical health. but we heard you and 2nd,

generally general talk about how desperate is it to night to yes, this situation in terms of the humanitarian conditions on the ground in particular on the south of the gaza stripe is very dramatic. and get your rates in every day. every day, as the number of of humanitarian aid that are allowed to get into the garza strips, feel very limited and cannot match the needs of more than 2300000 galls. and so we'll start talking about the north and central areas of goals of 16 were residents on the truck that they have been on the very intense plumbing for more than a 7 weeks of financing. and those people had received a very limited number of the maternity, a truck that had been partially access to the north central garza now. the, the majority of phase had allowed to, into the south of gauze of where people have become very populated,

due to the waves of evacuation. and there are more growing demands on the food items and products inside the palace, the new markets. uh we and with the ongoing uh, blue page of the eastern areas all the time you to switch considered to be the main central. 2 food baskets for the gaza strip and for the southern areas is specifically the situation is that you're raising as the instructional fund. lots continues now. uh, goals and on. the cells are struggling to find access to food as they are forced to line up for nogales to have access to few loads of of print uh as they were waiting in the front of the doors of the united nation warehouses to receive such a unitarian aids. and the number of people on the south are receiving a humanitarian aid by the united nation is increasing as well. so they are force right now to have a very partial access to water. and they did not find a clue shooter as the a. did you due to the increase of population on the south,

where some people were forced to take show to on public areas throughout living in a very small team to toms on public areas which drove which, which respects all the memories of the palestinian catastrophe. 194 to 8 were postings right now are facing and experiencing the same conditions at all. i thought a couple, i assume that's fine so much for that reporting on the very bleak situation in gone . so despite the that situation which we see on folding, we had a very different line and narrative from the is riley. i'm boss of the, to the united nations. that's this. and then remind ourselves what get i've done had to say how much exploits guys is as human shields in the hopes that civilian casualties will rise. and the un, we'll call for a ceasefire. do we want to be the actors in the show?

that's how mazda has carefully crafted. it is always easier to pressure, the law abiding democracy as opposed to the terrorists who don't even recognize the existence of international law. but these, this, the rights and just wait to insure security. of course not. all right, let's continue the discussion we have here once again james phase. i've seen the diplomatic editor. so listening to that sort of narrative though, you get a very different picture when you read some of the reports that have come out, james from international human rights organization. since these conflict kicked off bait, selling and is really group and is really human rights organization saying on october, the 10th that a criminal policy of revenge is on the way referencing the order to prefer damage over precision and saying there's no justifications for that calls. actions which

constitute more crimes, and you get a similar sense when you read what human rights watch had to say. on october, the 15th saying those of will not being followed an amnesty international. similarly, talking about how mass killings all taking place, violations of international law, and the statement on december the 5th. right. very different narrative that yeah, absolutely, and i know you like me saw me over the last 2 months i've been speaking to a lot of international lawyers. well, i haven't found an international lawyer. yes. who have spoken to who doesn't think in some way that will crimes have been committed here. when i say here, i'm talking about garza, if there was no warrant casa, the world's attention would be on the west bank because the situation is so bad. so many palestinians a record number of protest against killed this c a by these riley luxury, but also a record number of attacks by settlers. and none of this, of course,

gets mentioned, sorry, the, the jump in because we've now got the us representative speaking. let's listening to what he's saying, lots of these and acts of terrorism. the united states, at the highest levels is undertaking intensive diplomacy to save lives and will your foundation for a durable piece, a miracle diplomacy opened the way for the 1st trucks that flowed into gauze and with a in partnership with gutter in egypt, it helped to reunite more than 100 hostages with their loved ones and dramatically expanded 8 to civilians in gaza during a 7 day long mandatory and far from us. however, as a different set of goals. it's refusal to release young women hostages, lead to a breakdown in the pause and resumption of the fighting. this councils failure to condemn homeless is october 7th terrace attacks including its acts of sexual violence and other on thinkable evils is a serious moral failure. and it underscores the fundamental disconnect between the

discussions that we have been having in this chamber and the realities on the ground. and undeniable part of that reality, instead of israel unilaterally laid down its weapons today, as some member states of call for from us would continue to hold hostages, women, and children, elderly men, many of whom, according to survivor, accounts are being subjected to cruel and inhumane treatment and as of today, from us continues to pose a threat to israel and remain in charge of gaza. that is not a threat that any one of our government would allow to continue to remain on our own borders. not after the worst attack on our people. and several decades for that reason, while the united states strongly supports the durable peace,

which both is realism, palestinians live in peace and security. we do not support calls for an immediate cease fire. this would only plant the seeds for the next war because i'm off has no desire to see a durable piece to see a 2 state solution. colleagues, i am paying by the suffering that we have witnessed over the last 2 months. or even when we is, governments are compelled to take up arms and protect our people from the most heinous acts of terrorism and violence. or as tragic, is tragic for the families of the hostages. who wait word on the fate of their loved ones. we are doing everything possible to free the remaining hostages, and reiterate or expectation that the i c. r. c. be permitted to access and provide medical treatment to the hostages, held by him, us and other extreme is groups. the war is equally tragic for civilians and garza.

the scale of civilian suffering is devastating and heartbreaking unless intentionally embeds itself within civilian areas. but that does not in any way change the fact that how israel defend itself matters. we have been unequivocal israel, most respect, international mandatory law and conduct its operations in a way that minimizes civilian harm. to back up these words and help protect civilians, we have supported establishing a more effective humanitarian d confliction mechanism with the un. and we are monitoring its implementation. this is a moral, imperative, and strategic imperative. you can only win in urban warfare by protecting civilians in every conversation. we also have underscored, the israel must avoid further mass displacement of civilians in the south of gaza. many of whom previously fled violence. civilians must be provided adequate time and

opportunity to move, including through carters that allow people to move safely from to find areas of possibilities. israel much further ensure a sufficient amount of turn support exist for displace individuals. finally, civilians displaced in gaza must have an opportunity to return home as soon as conditions permit. there must be no enduring internal displacement or reduction in causes territory. under no circumstances. with united states support the force relocation of palestinians from casa or the west bank. although the extended humanitarian pauses ended again by him off his choice, we have been clear that you may return to aid must not only continue. it must be expanded. we welcome these really governments decision to open term shuttle for inspections and screening of humanitarian goods. we will continue to be in touch with israel to ensure this happens and on the timeline committed. we also welcome

these really governance decision to ensure the provision of fuel that meets the requisite needs to sustain demand turn assistance operation, including fido civilian infrastructure. both of these outcomes are result of intensive us engagement with all parties and are consistent with resolution 2712. they laid the foundation to expand, sustained, desperately needed humanitarian aid. of course, the manager in a cannot be delivered if you monitor and workers are not protected. and all parties have an obligation to protect un inhumanity and personnel. we offer deepest condolences to all the families, friends, and colleagues of unrest, staff who lost their lives since october 7 attacks against you and shelters and facilities are unacceptable. we have also continued a depressed that worked journalists do in conflict settings is vital and they too

must be protected. israel must afford damage to civilian infrastructure like hospitals, power stations, or facilities and telecommunications infrastructure. regarding the regional dimensions of this conflict, we are concerned by the renewed violence along the blue line. restoring con, there is of utmost importance as fully implementing security council resolution, 1701. moreover, we condemn the recent attacks by who it is against 3 separate commercial vessels operating in international waters, on the southern red 6 consistent with the ron's long term support and encouragement of the food these the stabilizing actions in the region. we know that iran was engaged in planning for the operations. ron has the choice to provided with all the support, without which the course these would struggle to effectively track and stride commercial vessels, navigating shipping lines through the red sea and cultivating. we welcome the

councils press statement condemning these attacks and underlining the importance of navigational, rice, and freedoms of all vessels in the red sea. we are engaged in intensive consultations with partners and allies to determine the appropriate next steps. united states has also been clear about the dangers from the rise in extreme its violence committed by as rarely settlers against palestinians in the west bank. 5 on extreme settlers must be held accountable for violent acts. and so, united states, as implementing a new visa restriction policy, targeting individuals believed to have been involved in or meaningfully contributed to undermining peace, security or stability in the west bank. present bind has been clear the palestinian people deserve a state of their own in a future free from us. and a 2 state solution is the only way to guarantee the long term security of both these really and the palestinian people. members of this council advocating for

resolutions have an obligation to explain how their proposals will break the cycle of unceasing violence and support the steps. we all agree are necessary to lay the foundation for a more peaceful and secure future. so that history does not keep repeating itself as our goal should not simply be to stop the war for today. it should be to end the war forever. break the cycle of unceasing violence and build something stronger in gaza and across the middle east. so the history does not keep repeating itself as has been the case since day one of this crisis. the united states will continue to use all its influence to encourage the reunification of hostages with their loved ones and the further expansion of aid to palestinian civilians and gaza, who have suffered tremendous losses. we will continue pressing for the protection of civilians as israel pursues legitimate military objectives. and we will not give

up on a future where from us does not control gaza. which is untenable for israel's, and the regions security and the wellbeing of the palestinian people. think of this present that is going to present them through this 1000 meals. fortunately, a glad i see on getting a lot a lot of it on right now, give the floor to the representative of albania and to president. i would like to start or we do not support calls for an immediate cease fire. the woods that of the us deputy ambassador to the united nations, addressing this meeting of the security council cold by the invocation of obstacle 99 or by the un secretary general. those were perhaps the key words and key message that many were listening and watching out for nothing. tiny, a surprise he went home to talk about is rouse right to defend itself. to do the also mention garza, that is how israel defends itself. matthews,

to sign you can only win in open warfare with support of the civilians made their way. let's continue this discussion with james bay's. i'll seen the diplomatic editors james that start with the obvious, imposing 1st one. not a surprise. it does sound like v i. c is going to use its veto then is that what we should take away from that? so when you have an impasse or deputy investor, in this case, speaking to the security council with a clarity of that position with a strong as that. and it's the us position with a long, but he's repeating it very, very firmly. i think there's very, very little chance of them changing their mind in the next 6 hours before this boat takes place. yes, we know that's the meeting of regional problem ministers and secretary blinking, taking place in washington dc at the state department. but i think the us position has been decided you are going to see in 6 as time a veto of this latest resolution. this resolution that was, that was drafted by the united,

our bad breath. so far it has $55.00 other countries which are co sponsoring it, that subset of united nations. but the, you and the, the us seems to be sticking to its gums. now, something interesting, i'm from sources at the united nations. we know that the us is likely to veto. we know that the team members of the security council withhold will support this solutions, but there's one other, i'm not so u. k, what is the u. k going to do on this occasion, i'm told by someone on the security council and certainly my colleagues have been in new york. i've been speaking to as many people as possible, but they think it's possible the u. k. could you join the us in a v tech because of course that you k is also a permanent member of how significant would that be? it would be very significant because i'm in the positive, it's the us alone. that's veto things on behalf of israel. so this is the u. k. trying to give the us diplomatic cover as well out 10, surely. but it's worth remembering that the, the u. k is a long standing position of, of trying not to use the veto. i'm,

it hasn't used to be to since 1989 that's more than 3 decades. so it'd be very, very interesting. um, certainly the last time we had a us be toe join this rule was when there was a brazilian resolution talking, quoting for humanitarian pauses, which eventually set some weeks later was the similar resolution was supported by the us on that occasion. the us veto it on october, the 18th, but the us, the u. k. just abstain. so i think one of the story is when we do see this vote of perhaps and don't going to be what the us does because i think he's just made it very, very clear. but what will the u. k. 2, now, as he mentioned, this is not the 1st draft resolution put together in the security council about garza, that the us has objected or the title of blocks one way or another, right? what happens is the hopeful yet another think it, this is what the full attempt told or draw for the if i up like accounting is right

. yeah. the problem saw me is that basically it's been the same problem all along. is that what people have been pushing for what the brazilians were pushing full rice at the beginning when they came up with our original draft of the resolution is a c spa is stopping the guns, silencing the guns, and that is supported by the united nations. and the secretary general, but that is what is opposed and you just heard the words directly from the us representative robot, what the, the step stand by. so one of the deputy investors to lend to thomas greenfield, they are sticking with that position. but that israel has, well, they, what he said, well, a legitimate military objectives it, it hasn't finished the job effectively. this thing, it wants to get rid of a mouse and the us is going to last it to that. so this diplomatic pressure, i mean, does it build off off for awhile and we should expect another attempt to the security council bearing in mind that this meeting is only happening because of the position

of the un secretary general. not because of the security council members themselves . yes, but i think that would it be the, i think the, the push from the united arab emirates for this resolution, then why, why do united out are brand route. so they happened to be at the moment until the end of the year. actually that to me as up on the security council, they happen to be the current arab member of the security council. so in many ways, the sort of resolutions, yes, they come from united. i remember it's but the from the whole, our group at the united nations, the, from the, the arab league in many ways and, and whichever the arab nation on the security council push it forward. i think this resolution was coming any way. and i think what has happened here is potentially, i think some of the out of nations have spoken to the 2nd gentleman said, could you give this an extra push? why are we not invoking article 99? and he's decided that the circumstances on the ground, he says the humanitarian says that a system on the ground getting 8 in the whole system is close to collapse with close to famine. with close to starvation,

the death toll is unbelievably high. and he's decided to, to, to, to introduce mechanism games. is there something for us to fight in terms of what the us, deputy and bass of you and said about the confliction mechanism with the united nations and another comments about well coming israel's decision to agree to open cut them show on? well, we doesn't, we, yes, i mean both of those things potentially might reduce the death toll, but it's not gonna stop the death toll. they're going to still continue to to bomb in garza and didn't sell some jobs. and then places where they told people to go, because they said it was going to be safe. and those 2 things he said, look likely. but neither of them are actually happened. yes, it would make a difference potentially for the aid. if the is riley border points could be open because they have the capacity to get much, many more trucks in the official position from the, from the un, from the on the set to general mosse and griffith on this is the,

that deal is not being done yet on the, on the car, i'm sure long more kevin boost that i'm a crossing. that's the crossing the rest direct crossing from the, from israel into gauze because everything currently goes through rough uh, which is from egypt into gaza. he said that the press conference in the last 24 hours, we are still negotiating. but there are some promising signs of the mind given. okay, all lot as well and good. but just given what we've heard from the un secretary general today, when he addressed the beginning of this meeting and he said, i'm just looking for the actual statement. hayes here that the actual woods, he said what the conditions for the effective delivery of humanitarian aid. no longer exist, he had some very strong woods about the difficulty and i think we can listen to this to this that some of the statements he made just to remind us what he was talking about, the collapse of these mechanisms for,

for delivering aid the conditions for the sick, the delivery of humanitarian aids no longer exists. the crossing points at the last was not designed for the end of stocks. and these the major bottleneck. but season, if sufficient, supply is what, but it means eating into gaza. intense bone, bottom month, rental steel, it, this is rarely restrictions on movements fueled shortages. and the interrupt is communications. make it impossible for you and agencies in that apartment of students, most of the people in need. so james, listening to all of that and observing it, the u. s. deputy ambassador is talking about, well, can them show on his brother's degree to open it a to get in this thing? 3163 general listening to phillip plaza. really listening to many you and agencies this thing we simply comp get 8 in. so what is the point of we comp deliver the

i've, if there's no seas file, what is the point of this point of, of just trying to ship more a then if you an agent saying we can't deliver it without the seas? fine, absolutely, yeah. the bombardment continues, yes, you can get the aid or some aid across the board. if even if it's not through rafa, which is limited in how much you can get it in potentially and save money to go. the deal is not being done for the, for the on the check fund that goes from israel directly into garza cuz that's a much bigger place. that's where the trucks used to go in before before of so the war. but then once you've got the other side, you've got to get that a to people. and if people are a cowering in the street, towering and buildings or what's left of buildings, how do you, how do you get the aden? without, you know, without a great risk to the you and staff who trying to distribute it and remember

a 130 more than a 130 you and stuff of already died in just 2 months. that's the greatest death toll for the u. n. in the history of the whole organization, which of course was set up at the end of world war 2. and the view entry said on monday, he said that the count conflict between is really forces in palestinian militants in gauze of the world is witnessing an unparalleled and unprecedented level of civilian this compared to any other conflict since he became secretary general. so that there is, it seems to be a consensus among the un officials that this is different. this is not on the same scale of all the cons. things we've seen in recent memory. yeah. and that, so i think why he treated article 99. that's why he thinks this is, was in the time frame that we've had. it had just 2 months is worse than the other . conflicts that these riley, i'm best to get out. a don mentioned, he mentioned syria, he mentioned them and he mentioned ukraine,

hawaii to the you and not for the article 99. the us extra general not to trigger article $999.00 for those. and it's because the secretary general of the united nations who is, is been doing this job, but he's in his 2nd time in the job. and she believes this is the worst thing he's seen. and remember, this is a very experienced man who was the prime minister of portugal. he was the head of the un refugee agency before he did this job. and this is the worst thing, is that. all right, james, thanks so much for help talking us through everything that's happening. we know that this process is continuing in the un security council, so no doubt will come back to lights or on. but for now, let's go back to kristen salumi. she's at the united nations headquarters. so kristen talk us through now. what kind of reaction are you hearing from security council members from you and diplomats now that we've had the you and we had the us deputy and by so that basically say what you said, you thought he was going to say,

all right, we've been hearing from a number of council members uh, reiterating the urgency of the situation and highlighting the fact that most council members feel that there is a need for the council to get involved. and to act right now, francis speaking of the basset or they're saying that it's time for a lasting ceasefire in order to get this humanitarian situation under control. we heard from malta also saying the time to act is now some of the pressure and the sentiment for action continues in the, in, in the un security council. even as we know behind the scenes, the pressure continues on us officials as well. and what james was saying about the huge impact on humanitarian operations for the united nations is

clear that this is a personal question for the un that they cannot protect their own workers if their own workers are dying with their families as they deliver aid. then how can they protect other innocent civilians in gaza and for that reason many see this as a crisis, not only for the region in the middle east, but for the us and for international law itself because the you and is not able to fulfill the responsibilities that it was set out to do, and that is some of the sense that we're getting from the speakers here as they continue to make their case. and kristin, just take us through this process. now we understand we're going to hear from a number of speakers and then what we, we get to a vote in the next few. one assumes minutes hours. what are we looking at? and how long does that voted pay? or is there a possibility? it could be delayed as there's a distinct possibility,

it could be delayed, it was supposed to happen during this meeting initially. that was what we were hearing yesterday. as of this morning, the vote was delayed till this afternoon in a few hours time from now. that happening after the foreign ministers from several middle eastern countries meet with secretary of state antony blinking in washington dc. but we also heard from the french ambassador before the meeting, a call to delay the vote even further suggesting that they did not think it was going to be a successful vote. differential bassett, or telling journalists what's the point of having a vote if the council is not united? we need to come together and find the wording for a resolution that everyone can support. he called for a delay even further until next week, if necessary. of course, in that time, the bombs are continuing to fall. people are not getting the food that they need.

the secretary general saying that in some areas, 90 percent of families don't have enough food to eat on a daily basis. and there is no way to get aid to the people who need it. so really a lot of uncertainty right now is the situation gets worse, but no sign of that vote happening right now. it couldn't be delayed and definitely for i, thanks so much chris. instead of me that watching developments from the un headquarters live for us from new york. and what we have been seeing live from the un headquarters, of course, was a reservation of the us position of standing with israel in a, posing the coal for an immediate humanitarian see spot in garza. and as of today, from us continues to pose a threat to israel and remain in charge of gaza. that is not

a threat that any one of our governments were allowed to continue to remain on our own borders. not after the worst attack on our people. and several decades for that reason, while the united states strongly supports the durable peace in which both is rarely some palestinians who live in peace and security. we do not support calls for an immediate cease fire. alright, let's spring in once again. we've got of course chains, bays here. i see the different medic edison but also that spring and model on the shawn. i'll just hear a senior political analyst. good. have you both bank with us. so milan, if i could start with you listening to that statement from the us, deputy ambassador, how do we interpret that? that's basically the green light for as well to continue this campaign. oh yes, absolutely. but there was more towards them that i think this was one of those. got you a moment then you as the tennessee, there's 2 things you said uh,

facing the way to projecting video and security council resolution one. and one of them are problematic. one, he said, none of us would accept this kind of effect on our board there, because as nothing is as border guys as an occupied territory by is right. it's not a different country on is as border, that's why under you and i'm a charter and it's unfair. national law is there. it has no right to defense. it says in occupied territories such as gods which has been recognized, including by the united states. as of ok by 3122. and that's a bit to uh, the 50, the 1st of the $54.00 states argument. right. that a lot of people been making that is read. it's not just another state is the 51st state of the united states, because what, what he said, just a little while ago he said our people, this is the 1st i sent you. maybe we should listen to that. let's play it out again

. i think do we have it ready? all right, we might need, sorry more while i jumped the gun a bit this. so if you keep, keep going, but we will play out that somebody again because i think it's important what you're commenting on and we should listen to again, but momentarily while that queuing, it's not that no problem that you go, you're not there is, this was this is right, anyone who knows is right, well knows that there's a, spends a lot of emotion trying to sound like an simulated with the united states. because without the united states is really good talking to press part the couldn't even survive really. and then at least without the assistance to help the ottoman, that she would think of the united states. but it'd be that cuz it may not be with the by the administration. the past 2 months has been i don't think that he's ready lines. sometimes you would think they were basically taking the executive, the same words, phrases on sentences and using them in their own statements. and now the, the, the us envoy was saying not for deck is how we have our people, our, not the israeli people. our people suffered such fluoride. well,

i believe we do now have the sound bite ready to play out again. so let's listening again and as of today from us continues to pose a threat to israel and remain in charge of gaza. that is not a threat that any one of our governments would allow to continue to remain on our own borders. not after the worst attack on our people in several decades. for that reason. while the united states strongly supports the durable peace, which both is really some palestinians who live in peace and security, we do not support calls for an immediate cease fire. what's so quite significant that our governments and our people, our government, there's one thing, none of us could imagine that this would happen on our borders. okay, that's fine, but guys on okay, if i throw that, there is not just, it's not mexico. okay, that's not canada. as occupied there,

but the more important part is we've talked about that we haven't had that kind of an attack on our people. is there as people is right, is not our america and is there a, there's not the 50 for states as an independent state that became independent back in 1948. it is not that i might have said, so for the american n voice to actually echo that thing that's been talking about for the past 2 months is that you don't know anymore when it's the american speaker for america, or when it is american speaking for days right, it's just getting so confusing because by then and think of an authors have been better things is riley cliches on song by some statements and phrases and so on, so forth. but now it's just even mixing up the facts, right. it's not just our borders. i'm certainly, it's not our people. that's where uh, the way they would head back in october 7. james, is it also interesting to look at how the us,

deputy and bass of the spokes when he's he basically cold on israel to take back to precautions, to protect civilian life. but the way that the us officials have, have been speaking about, you know, it matters how israel defends itself. as it doesn't overlooks the facts. you know, that, that sort of rhetoric is this. you are a complete, detached the policy and overlooks the incredible leverage that the us not even leverage the us has. but in the words of the form a 2nd, a form, a special rightful tool of the united nations for extra judicial killings. agnes kalamazoo. and she said on december, the 5th simply us made weapons facilitated the mass killings of extended families that on the schools. does it not that the us is not simply a 3rd party observing, you know, the, she's absolutely right. they, the munitions that have being dropped on garza or all of the american will that

paid for by america. nearly all of them. that is, that is a central part of this and the us has it has it has a key role in this. the us senior officials, including the secretary of defense being that looking at the military plans. they've been not actually at the table the will capping up, but they've been consulted every single stage throughout this. and this, if i may, you know, the american, and we're also spoke about your one of the hotels involved with the question of what's happening. and let's see. now watch again what the americans are saying. they're saying it's just not the how it seems like is responsible for what's happening and then it gets here on because it's, you're on a cord into edwards, because it's yolanda aren't always he's as well. if you take that logic to america harmed is read america as making his right capable of. i'm getting those attacks and guys off, so it's the mirror or laundry coastal science argument. america isn't responsible

for what guys for what is there a dozen guys are just as you on. these are responsible for the whole thing is doing that, i'd say, and you know how it is our best to create in the field space. so it's not a fit of space, not that i know, but it is so fully supported on arm to by the united states. it wouldn't have been able to carry that kind of genocide this got and got a bear in mind. but this is not just about sending or dispatching arms. this is about shifting is right, as it has been, she the, to the, i think you're not the admission security council. and this is about financing is read as a rent financing gets with more than $14000000000.00 in addition to $58000000000.00 of assistance. and it is certainly possible america, providing every possible mean for is i to carry on with it's a war crimes and guys. so it certainly just as one is complicit with the whole the isn't yeah. man. the united states is 2nd to compress it with is right. and what is

doing and guys, but also back to the idea of what's happening with the, with the cx. 5, with the demand for seized by it. i don't wanna interfere and your whole in field of interest now, i think sometimes costs, so as long as ation between the great minds of off. but i could, but i did call the united states upstanding for voting for 7 doors in the oceans. 1982 that had to do with a is really a vision of less than a 5 most of the 585 or 951152515517. the united states either way to book it for or or upstate, but it allowed 6 resolutions or 7, those issues to basically call the 1st one and then confirmed each one, the 1st $1.00 to $58.00 going for a cease fire. after these reading and vision of the on. okay, the problem for the are you going to my station at the time this kind of support is right. but for, for us to use for it, i think,

and i think i'm glad you're taking us a little step back in time to look at this might be a good time for us to just put things a little bit back in context and talk about this and pharmacy of the us is roll to the conflicts we've been seeing is moran is talking about not in the middle east, but also garza and talk about president joe bindings position in particular, we will record of calls. you make that trip to is running the days following october, the 7th, to show he's on wavering support for the country. but there's probably call hi and explains. that's come at the political cost for him. from the beginning of the conflict us president joe biden has been consistent, often repeating israel's justifications for it sees and bombardment of god. so i never really thought that i would see who has confirmed pictures of the terrorist behavior in children. a damaged statement from a us president accept his aids leader said it wasn't true. he didn't see anything.

just repeated when he had heard in the media. when the all of the hospital was show with an hour, he blamed quote, the other team. and he made sure to send a message of support in person. indeed, sending to aircraft carrier groups to the region. and with assets sending missiles, ammunition, and reportedly $100.00 bunker buster bombs to israel. along with the pledge of more than $14000000000.00 in additional assistance about 3 weeks into the war, biden was asked about the growing palestinian death toll. i'm sure is happening q and a price of wages war. but i have no confidence in the number that the palestinians use. he has called for restraint, but not condemned. the lack of it by israel's no. terry asked for additional humanitarian aid. not demanded it. button harold is his role in getting a temporary cease fire. but as the fighting began again,

he reportedly told him that in yahoo, the military should not fight in the south with the same intensity that in the north, it appears they did. anyway. no public response from the us president, tens of thousands of people in the us had helped countless pro palestinian marches, demanding he do more and plugging they will never vote for buying again. going to be hard know for me to be a hard no. yeah, not the sale, but for the other party either. but i'm going to have to see if there is an independent candidate that i can get behind. and it's showing up in the polls. as the american media keeps pointing out, he is 50 points underwater with the youngest group of voters. political analysts say this could cost him as he seeks re election. his support has decreased now to 17 percent of the air of american electorate. so he's already losing a huge support among a key population, especially when we're looking at a swing state like michigan where the air of americans and muslim americans make up

a larger percentage of the electorate. with just under year until the election, biden's team is likely hoping many will forget or vote for binding because they dislike his opponent more in a close election. that could be a costly calculation, particularly l g 0 washington. all right, so let's continue the discussion here. that's the model on and james and james, looking at the, the obviously is a changing dynamic has policies package, points out the always seeing a change in the dynamic of the us position, particularly listening to what we heard tonight in the security council. well certainly i think we've seen a slight change from the others, not very uh, the days when we get out, you'll make the final boss, although those are the days when president biden went, went to visit these right. these and it was full throated support is around every

single way um and in terms of the israel's right to defend itself. and they haven't completed the military objectives that still that. but there is a slight note now which we've seen developing and recent weeks of judging caution on israel. they repeatedly say that there are laws to born israel needs to respect and they never say is, is right, is not respect to them. they never actually cool out israel for that up. some tough come in. so tough the comments on the situation in the west bank, but no comments on what so many people around the world, so many lawyers, 70 human rights groups, say, all crimes, milan we have seen historically moments where us presidents were able to draw something of a red line for as well. what's happening now, but look, i mean just quickly by the expected with a high football how much is like i so we support time is 100 percent. we're going

to send a palms, a lot of money, billions of dollars. we're sending to our might those 2 aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines and so on, so forth. we went from that kind of high, portable of that kind of support, that kind of know they live between the united states and is ready to in the area. and you know, yes we support 100 percent, but the port kind of thing is we need to give them some paid some help, but have some food before we kill them. why bump them when they're starving, that's kill them as they are, have on full stomach and so on, so forth. we went through the humidity. i think now at this point in time, we are in the helpless american position. we went from hi, put a boat to humanitarian to the helpless americans are helpless. they cannot influence is ready to do what is where it needs to do in gaza. and hence they are either changing the subject to with an ice. for example, great stop booking for one of a sudden about rate or they're talking about the west bank and he goes into westbank because they can no longer spoke in serious face about what's happening.

and gosh, there's a general southern guys out there complicit. and they can change is right, as policy is worth policy, and hence they are changing the subject. and hence, they are found in such how this position, where they stand unique, almost along with the puppy. the popular one was that knows where that is. but this tend, uniquely, i know now in the international paradigm, that's interesting. i would say we've got very briefly in 20 seconds. james, how's that impacting us position in the you and all the momentum off to the ukraine will that we saw really damaged as the political capital is really damage, particularly with the global south. it would be very interesting to see if there was a vote in the general assembly on ukraine. and now i compared with the vote that took place in march of last year, whether that be so much support for ukraine. it's, it's presidency. lensky is west nightmare in many ways. what, what has happened in terms of garza and i think it's it's, it's difficult now for the united states to get things done in the united nations

and also what's happening. okay, we're gonna have to st. james, veins and my mom to shaw. thank you both gentlemen for coming in. bring us the end of the show tobacco top leah, the a settled time upfront takes on the big issue. that is a context to what is that for now? it to the question about 5 unflinching questions, rigorous the bank that he added to 2 days that another cleansing has taken place. augusta nothing goes into gauze or without us of permission. nothing leads about that. without the girls permission to allow me to push back for a moment, demanding a ceasefire, demanding an end to the root causes of all of this violence upfront. without 0. what you're looking at, that is one of the breach points through which how much flight is came into as well . warning sirens. here is a s like some slight y'all just has been remarkably intensified during the last couple

of hours. with seeing these as strikes really concentrated on residential phones and residential buildings, is a dangerous times of regional spillover. of course, as long as the conversation here is a minute for one inside the hospital, then without oxygen, without electricity, the beated inside, they're dying. for now, less than an hour away from the efficient start of the ceasefire. 50 feet caps, it's 4 feet release over st periods, one more batch of prisoners when people want a permanent ceasefire. the the, [000:00:00;00]

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