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the, the, the un security council needs to discuss gaza ahead of a vote, calling for a seas file the eyes of the world. and the eyes. these 3 are watching. each time where the i'm sat, me say them. this is out just a live from dell hall, so coming up, i'll just hear a his account. so be things and interrogations. often thousands of palestinian men,
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a stripped vice variety. wholesale is this royal continues its attacks across the street. one, a strong destroys gauze, is oldest mosque, one of its most important lines. we begin in new york where the united nations security council. these meetings evaluate on a draft resolution calling for an immediate humanitarian sees fire in the gaza strip. and it comes off the secretary general, antonio guitar invoked article $99.00 of the you and child. so that seems most powerful diplomatic tool. drawing the counsel attention to an issue, a believes directions, international peace and security. opening today's session, he said the situation in the besiege gaza strip is becoming untenable of the conditions for the 60 of delivery of humanitarian aids no longer exists.
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the crossing points at the last uh, was not designed for the end of stocks. and these are the major bottleneck, but even if sufficient supply is what it means, eating through gaza, intense bombarded mental steel, it. this is rarely restrictions on movements. fuel shortages. and the interrupt is communications. make it impossible for you and agencies in that apartment of students, most of the people in need as well. i'm joined now, biologist, here is diplomatic yet. it's a james base. he's here in the studio, james. so let's just recap what we saw in the last hour. we had that key moment where the deputy us and best of it to the united nations said the words we do not support calls for an immediate se is fine. i. e, we're going to veto this, is that how we should read that? i definitely think that is how he wants you to read it. and he is not just the deputy us ambassador. he's given instructions by washington. what to say,
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that is what the president biden, the secretary of state blinking, want you to hear. they will veto this resolution. if the vote is currently scheduled, goes ahead in 5 and a half hours time. i think there is now and if of weather is about, we'll go ahead because they've now know very, very clearly it's going to be defeated. there's been some discussion of what the u . k would do with they've joined us and a veto. they haven't use the veto since 1989. i'm hearing the latest word coming from our colleagues. the security council is that the u. k. probably would abstain and the us would veto. you've heard voices, including the french ambassador who was saying, we should call this off when she cooled off the boat, disposed to take place later this afternoon in new york and have more negotiations because there's no point, it's ok of negotiation. jane. so we know that there was at least scheduled to be a meeting between antony blinking the us a secretary of state. and some of the foreign ministers of regional countries is
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that still going have is that any glimmer of hope that they can get him to a tool change his position? i think it's very mobile. i think it's when you have a speech that was as clear as that speech was, i think it's very unlikely that even though this high level diplomacy from regional for a ministers with secretary state blinking, it's very, very unlikely. i think that they can, that they, they can change his mind. the question now will be whether that argument from the french some best to let's have more to go see ations. let's try and sort this out and have a unified position that everyone can support or will some of the of a delegations brochure for example, i'm sure we'd like about it would like to expose the us position that we'd like the us to be forced to use it's be to, i think the key question here is whether the arab countries stand on this and they will, i think, will decide is to you a resolution, whether it's a press, a head with this resolution to decide to expose the us publicly make it veto again
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show that it's still opposed to the idea of a see saw all the other alternative. go back to negotiation and see if they can come up with something that everyone can support. but that's going to be very, very difficult because of the basic question is the spiral no spot in the us has made its position clear, mostly spa, and it will of course change wasn't only the us different who spoke palestine and israel. they also gave statements to view and a short while ago in the past, in an impass of the accused israel of bullying charities. and then she is speaking out against israel osborne, bottom of the gaza strip. they believe there is an international law specific to them that allows them to commit atrocities. how can this be allowed to continue? it's con, shouldn't it has to stop. is the expect
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exceptionalism has to end, and it has to and now stop realizing international load to fit. is there any crimes on stop coding for respect for international law while supporting an assault that has torn it into shreds? come as exploring guidance as human shields in the hopes that civilian casualties will rise, and the un will call for a ceasefire. or do we want to be the actors in the show? that's how mazda has carefully crafted. it is always easier to pressure the law abiding democracy as opposed to the terrorists who don't even recognize the existence of international law. but these, this, the rights and just wait to insure security. of course not while that spring change phase back into the discussion. so we've heard several
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statements from solve the key diplomats in this issue right now. james, if they say is going way we think it's going no way. this is yet another attempt, diplomatic attempt at the scares accounts to try and put a resolution together. what happens to that momentum? it's, well it's, it's, uh, it really does, i think on the lines um, the weakness of the security council at this time. and i think it undermines the credibility of the security council. i think if we do not get a resolution today or if we get a resolution that has to be towed today, the next stage, i think probably is to go back to the un general assembly. and i say that because of this rather important elected this come from the head of unreal. felipe, lots of really, he's written alexa and it goes to the un general assembly picked his left to it because actually under the set topic, 1949 by the un general assembly, the other big organ of the united nations. he's less a just like the 2nd generals lecture about his article. 99 is,
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is raising the alarm. he says, and he's 35 years working complex emergencies. i've never written such a left to predicting the killing of my stuff. and the collapse of the mandate unexpected to her fell. but he then also asked the president of the general assembly to take immediate action to implement an immediate humanitarian see spot. that suggests to me that he's calling the president the general assembly to call a meeting of the general assembly. remember the general assembly, unlike the security council, which has 5 permanent members and, and, and then the rest on permanent members, 15 members of, of, of, of the you and the general assembly is 193 countries. yes, it doesn't have the power to impose the spot. it's rulings on north international like the security council. but if it's the general assembly meeting, we'll know how the whole world spends on this type of global temperature. as we saw last time when the general assembly met, and that's going to put even more political pressure on israel and the united
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states was despite that political pressure and despite the strong statements that you pointed out, james, from the likes of the head of underway. oh, the secretary general himself to night, we've had a very different message from the us deputy and best but to the united nations. it was very much focused on how mice and as of today from us, continues to pose a threat to israel and remain in charge of gaza. that is not a threat that any one of our governments were allowed to continue to remain on our own borders. not after the worst attack on our people in several decades. for that reason, while the united states strongly supports the durable peace in which both is rarely some palestinians who live in peace and security, we do not support calls for an immediate cease fire. let us take this now to our
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correspondence at the united nations. christian salumi is live for us from the un headquarters in new york. so kristen, you've been, i think taking the temperature of some of those diplomats at the security council of the un. what kind of reading are you getting now that we know basically know whether us is, is heading on this one all council members have been given a chance to speak and the counsel of the speeches are continuing right now. in fact . and we've heard from the majority of council members that they do, in fact support a ceasefire. countries like china, russia, france, all saying that as these fires needed to address the dire humanitarian situation. but more importantly, the theme that we're hearing from the council members is that the council must act and must act and speak in a unified voice. france said that malta an action is not an option. japan
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the council must speaking to united voice. so there's an attempt to bring everyone together here. crucially, we heard from the united kingdom, perhaps the one country whose position was least clear here, a country that has voted closely and follows closely the united states guidance on this issue. the master barbara woodward saying that the number of killed in this conflict is shocking that 80 percent of people being displaced cannot continue. but then she went on to say that is the united kingdom continues to support israel's right to defend itself. suggesting that they are not on board with a humanitarian ceasefire at this time. does that mean that they would vote against it? would they abstain? not cleared, but it sounds like they have some doubts given their support for israel's right to
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defend itself. and of course, it only takes one country, one permanent member of the security council to stop a resolution from going forward with their veto power in the united states has made that clear that that's where they stand at this time. and kristen, i guess the big next big question now is, is this going to go ahead and this? so when it's it's a great question that we don't know the answer to as of now, there is a vote scheduled for about 5 and a half hours from now. that was to give more time for negotiations to happen. i spoke to the guitar ambassador on her way into this meeting. she said that they were hopeful that her foreign minister meeting with anthony blinking in washington dc and other foreign ministers, appealing to washington, might have some impact and might be able to guild some common ground for resolution
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going forward. the readouts were getting now again, from what deputy ambassador would from the united states said to the council, from what we're hearing from washington d. c. it does not seem that the us has changed its position. so the question is, will they go ahead and vote and force the united states to use its veto or will they continue? is it to negotiate in the hopes of coming to some common ground going forward? all right, thanks so much. kristen salumi that spring model on the shower into this. he's down to 0. senior political analyst joins us on site. in the not a huge surprise, i guess, to hear the us position being clarified by the deputy and best of the above. never the less disappointing international diplomacy looking like it's heading once again towards some kind of long john. you know, i must say, i mean,
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yes, yes, we are disappointed then and it's not. yes, it's not shocking, but it's done surprises. one, it's done so prizes one. why would the super power act like a puppy? for a small rogue states like is right. why? let me think about it. why are we taking this face value? why should the united states of america the world for most, for file, for the past 70 years, act like a parent are repeating behind. is there a statement? one statement after another one sound bias outside another. so much so that the deputy envoy, the deputy, to invested the is confusing the united states for his right. i mean for him to say our people, what do you use? what are you sounds like and his right to and best of the he's supposed to sound like an american ambassador, is supposed to be taking a distance from this issue and say, well there is, uh, you know, there's an issue here at a 1000 plus is right and he's died,
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but $20000.00 plus palestinians died because of this. and that's why we need to stop this war. that's what you would expect us to put back to say. so yes, one remain surprised as much as disappointed from this kind of action. and as you and i were just talking earlier, the reagan administration and 1982 continued to support his own with arms and everything else after it's envisioned over that. but on, at one point, person breaking the prime minister, begun at the time and told them what you are doing and being what that's on the holocaust. i'm putting, the american president told the is there any prime minister what you are doing? i guess build is a hollow cost. okay. the casualties comedy compared to the casual. there you go and gaza, which begs the question, why then the bike and administration does not recognize what is happening in gaza
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is that general side is a war crime. and why doesn't then only be it's supporting goes right, a vote for a ceasefire president. very good. or that a good one most right should either obtained or warranted for 6 or 7 years. and usually, within 2 months of 1982 starting june 6 with the new us. it gives the crowns. are you on the security council decision? 5. 08. throw you on security council. resolution 517. the united states did not the single one either obtained or voted for a ceasefire. humanitarian vist. 9 resolutions under warranty, against the collective punishment on the start of the bid out of the bombing available. and how long for humanitarian courts go to distribute american administration and remained in the eyes of these rare it is one of the most pro. is there any administration in us history? so what is, what are some by them doing? exactly right. we're going to have
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a moment to come back to model one lice when they showed to pick up more on that. but we go to also have a shift all folks as well to was going on on the ground in gone. so while diplomats so that arguing it out at the security council, well human rights groups bank holding for an urgent investigation off the video in the palestinian prisoners in gaza. stripped, i'm blindfolded. israel says the suspected finances, but there's evidence many of civilians, including a prominent join list, several called reports, disturbing images of a mass of rest in northern gaza. at least $100.00 published indian men seen stripped down to the underway, blindfolded and made to kneel. and the identified voice in hebrew can be heard, the
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is not known, where they have been taken. the 1st thing jump in my mind when i saw the pictures, the 2nd one was to be honest with you, how they're treated, you know, make any sense. those the way to address that or the present or so for that's the case. i think the this in a healed man. this is a torture. if the amount of torture and the boat then that it's a water crime declines, it goes to humanity. israel is describing them as suspected fighters, but an increasing number of civilians have now been identified. one of them is palestinian generalist d a. i was colored. he's a correspondent for the r a b as yet deed, newspaper and website. it's a several members of his family are among those detained b. i has a disabled daughter and a very old mother. so logistically it was very unpractical and you decided to stay
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. we identified him amongst who was detained. we also identified at least 2 kids under the age of 16. both of them were 15 year old and we'd identified 2 employees of the united nations under our schools. man, we identified at least 3 elderly dia is one of dozens of journalists currently imprisoned by israel. human rights groups say is really abuse of prisoners is wide spread and systemic. and there are now concerns about this latest group taken in gaza demos con judges era. as well as goes, taught a couple, i assume in the off in southern dogs and saw the con, the stand today has been an exceptionally heavy day of heavy stripes from the north . right to the south of guns the right yes, that's absolutely true. send me the gaza strip had been on the east very intense
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plumbing since the early hours of today's morning. the last hour had witness massive airy. busy combined the attack and had been conducted on several areas across the territory. now, as is barely started a new phase and expand with phase who in which hundreds of palestinians have been killed on wednesday. the basis during the past the 24 hours more than 300 palestinians have been killed along side with more than 5550. others have been changes and the majority of these s price were close and crated in the main central neighborhoods of johnson city, including a seizure. yeah. a supper and a diversity of residential neighborhoods on the south of the gauze trips and in particular in the eastern areas, both on units for the east bed. the forces are trying to advance and to gain much more control over divide some areas of the south, which considered to be the safe area that the majority of gauze and had been as to
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flee in order to be protected from the east. many funding the ocean confrontations, the ground continue and, and most of the territories that we have the power steering pointed out of the space through just now the increasing number of the study is twice 1st the territory has increased the number of the times thing and just to that's how to increase to maybe 1017000 palestinians have been killed with move done of a 146000 others who has been particularly v that i'm this number is considered to be very critical for the palestinian ministry of hills which faces and increasing difficult a number of difficulties to cope with the current situation on the ground. and in order to illustrate that me food audience, we are joined right now by doctor selection and drive very he's one of the palestinians. doctors he is subbing in the department of majesty and of to wait to hospital to select. thank you so much for joining us today. we'd like to ask you
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about the medical situation on roughly in the south of goza, the well, the situation here, the so so missy, so catastrophe here, the whole health system here at the labs. we are receiving a numerous number of incoming condition at the same time. okay, we are, we do here. the busy a traumatic trauma. live support out of new jersey services. but off there, does he have to move the severely injured visuals to more secondary and then intensive care units on the hill? well, we have not, we have no, no, no bids for us to do what advice you so we have to move them to, to open goals a hospital on so on. let me take a look, not somebody come from the list and kinda knew this. but now the, the road, the road, those to the, to the that the holes with those now trusted, found treated more down 270 to the medical doctors um, bottom,
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it is where it killed 40 or could no. uh so uh no, we are isolated in the middle of this is that the 1st generally the 1st of all zero's the doctors. the 2nd thing, most of the bill, most of the people in gauze on this part is let's do more than 100. ringback $1000000.00 on and off. so this overcrowded, available as the shoulders, you know, lead to spreading open fixtures, diseases. they can't control them. this is the 2nd thing. uh, this very thing here is the fuel on the for assisting our hospitals are running out of our file and y'all to view it so and, and, and weeks. and in a few days we can still call this medical surface. this is, this is the more important board, even the medicine we're lucky to do and of the most, the basic, lots of work mid is, are doing go version 0. and then the jersey,
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the bottom is without even on a seizure. so uh, how could you mind being yeah, imagine the situation here. okay. so uh, that's really great. now, in terms of the youth recreations in oak await your hospital along slowly, we've always brought the hospital to face and to coup with the situation on the ground, especially with the number of residents which had be doubled during the last recent waves of evacuations. to rough uh, actually here in norfolk we have just 3 hospitals, one of them, our quick lube who it was, but i'll just small specialized hospital for, you know, for the. 3 on the small one, the have we have no just 20 bits for all, you know, for admission. also you the more a to us but the john hospital. so we are increasing the number of the field hospitals that we're all sitting sense for that sort of thing. but what the, what the don't like,
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what's just for saving the emergency care. i'm sure that we have to move the vehicle. no fuel for the moving the ambulances. so it's, i can do a good. uh, so a lot of you know, no bits word that's such a thing, no medical equipment, no fuels to run the even that, mitigate the globes. thank you. back to the united nations where the author reimburse of the to the united nations. i finally speaking less guessing that refrain the kingdom of saudi arabia, it's the salt. never mind the state of court and the state of guitar. we say that we are grateful to you for meeting this meeting. and we like to think of the sector general for his participation, which is very important in light of developments. and that does this trip to the member and it states that the gulf corporation council can the is really aggression . i know we consider that israel is legally responsible for its continued aggression. look on. it was some particular against innocent civilians that was
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all the thousands of whom have perished, mainly women in china and children in figuring, violation of human and training law and international and international humanitarian law. and we refuse any justification to consider on these really aggression is that back to self defense. the international community must take necessary steps in the framework of international law to, to react to all these really practices and the measures of collective punishment against the inhabitants of guys. or we invite the international community to provide protection off to a brother and a palestinian people. she act we we reject the measures leading to that just force displacement of the inhabitants of the guys that we've talked to. dodie can devin, i'm the funny that the occupation forces are targeting civilian infrastructure is
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including schools, hospitals, and refugee shelters. natasha. also, the occupation forces are killing good journalists and are targeting international facilities as well as the headquarters of a guitar committee for the reconstruction of guys. what does she feel? the town is really blockade contravenes international humanitarian law and resolution. 2417 would be like a little afflicted with the shiny or indeed in fact, the directions are meant to prevent the delivery of humanitarian assistance and as a policy to to start the posting and people, we welcome the, the mediation of the united states at egypt, and others in that help and guitar and achieving issue mandatory 9. true. so which led to the exchange of hostages and the delivery of humanitarian assistance. we regret the end of the truce, increasing it's really about tax,
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which has led to the displacement of millions and preventing to were either a numerous commentary and a new in organizations. we welcome resolution 2712 which caused for humanitarian truce and immediately miniature and truces. and the last thing, ones, the more and throughout you guys have one that hasn't had any we, because we call on it's immediate implementation. full implementation with making is unable to monitor its implementation. we also welcome the welcome to measure is taken by the sector general and his invoking article 99 of the charter to demand and time. you call them the account. so when you go to the announcer and immediate such as will cease fire the security council, signing duty, duffy and pursuing it to the charter, must demanding a, an immediate submitted cherry and that cease fire. look about doing that. and to
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demand the, the, the parties to decides to con, pulled their obligation. you can probably be a block on the under international humanitarian law law and international law. he demands nothing, assessed on behalf of the or group or the immediate to do them. and the, the possibilities, and this is these 5 deliveries administer in the system to send time basic necessary necessities to all the inhabitants of gaza and, and about when nea, to some of you to make sure that the, the, the delivery resistance is then immediately as well as the provision of water, electricity, fuel, and food you've also okay. and is that the gulf corporation council would that is providing emergency relief and assistance to brothers and sisters and guys in addition to financial support to the united nations and a bunch of good underwhelming shockey and laid down the growing management needs as
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well as the a to that is really tax, i guess, unreal facilities, an address that we call and the international community to increase humanitarian assistance immediately. allen, and i'm all in favor of underwater in the united nations. the member states of the gulf corporation council with demo reiterate therapy. i let you know i'm changed from position from the regards to the some trial. it even posted in question. and the need to put an end do's, really occupation, the last name of people to sign and to well, the most important but posting is 70 overall occupied territories. and the creation of the bach hausteen's data with east jerusalem is capital lane. that'd be jimmy until opened mission wide shot. and also we support the rights of refugees and give up mine with the initiative of the europe states. to all of these, it has realized legitimate rights of the posting and people who we support the initiative savvy rapier. and the league of arab states and cooperation was the
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