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hello welcome to the program i made right. instead of getting the highest coming of 1147 people in southern israel on october, the 7th cause the global outrage since then vote 15 times as many palestinians. mostly women and children have been killed in a muscle. this bombing campaign by one of the world's most powerful military is backed by the us and western allies. these countries proclaimed support for human rights and international law, both of which israel tremples on the daily and gaza and the occupied westbank. so how is western support as well viewed elsewhere? could the gallons of water change, the current world hold up is support for israel damaging the west will be asking these questions and more of our guests in just a few moments. but 1st, this report from car lego and how israel and the us of found themselves in a minority of world opinion for the months of bombing. and it was thing humanitarian crisis. despite growing calls for a health israel's war on garza,

the world's most powerful body, the united nations security council has failed to put a stop to israel violence with the us wielding it's vs. her power standing alone in blocking resolutions for cease file. but the demands have not stopped moving to the un general assembly. i use my recent attendance of the do, her forum and every other platform. i come to encourage cooperation among states with the same singular goal in mind. to make peace for all in the name of humanity, i ask you all once again, stop this violence. now the assembly spoke loud and clear. an overwhelming votes in favor of a resolution seeking a humanitarian sci fi. and the really nice of all kept is garza 153 members tape

supported it 21 more than the last time the assembly called for humanitarian true will tune. ukraine was among the few countries to abstain. refusing to call for a health to war, backed by its western allies, the u. s. and israel however, voted against the resolution. we support speaking out with one voice to condemn her mouth for his tears actions on october 7th. why is that so hard to say on a quickbooks plea that murdering babies and gunning down parents in front of their children is terrific. the exploitation of the policy in the on has made do you on a more of this thing on humanity? why are you continuing to allow them to make the united nations you relevant? the resolution is non binding, but it carries political weight and reflects a global perspective of the will. the arab and islamic countries who spearheaded

the 5th have pledge to use this as momentum to keep pushing for a ceasefire. the palestinian authority is welcome to resolution and countries to prussia israel to adopt the ceasefire. this ground battles intensify in northern garza. israel has carried out some of the heaviest, forming in days in the south. the u. n vote indicates israel's growing diplomatic isolation. us president joe biden has wanted risk losing international support because of its quote, indiscriminate bombing. even close allied australia, back to human resolution in arrest, split to the us wild world. wait to see if the un security council will hold another vote. people on the streets fall from the car, doors of western power, making their voices heard. car leg which is 0 inside story. the. so let's bring in august for today's discussion from

paris were joined by to me. a potters form a career diplomat in venezuela and a policy advisor specializing in less than american economics and geo politics from cape town. south africa with joins by law the vote. who was a full month's south african ambassador, a member of parliament in nelson mandela's administration ad here in bo. huh. is somebody home as associate professor of northwestern university and counselor? he specializes in social lupins, the state and security, and the are well welcome to your assembly. let's start with you. um, how significant is this you in general assembly vote, it's highly unlikely to lead to a binding resolution in the security council anytime soon. is it, i mean, is it the best that you and can do? and what relevance is this vote to someone suffering under the constant bombardment in gaza? you know, i mean, on one hand it, it's great that you've seen a shift of 20 countries in the last months,

but of course that's not uh, you know, a quick enough and of course it's wonderful to see that the us has now isolated. i think that's the 1st step is that it's isolated and we hope that the next resolution that comes out um, we'll see a change in the us won't be able to protect. you know, it's interest in israel any, any more. but in a sense, it is also a, as you know, there's really ambassador to the un sides, right. he, it's total double speak. i mean, he blames the postings for everything, but they're the ones that were constantly breaking international law. and so in a way that the un has become an effectual, but i think what, what is really important is this movement. what you see is international, global solidarity actually sort of moving the style. and i think that's what's really important is that we see that, you know, even this resolution,

it's not put on the table, then it's on your gutierrez. it did not invoke article 99. because rush, i told him, or china told him what, what there's this movement we're seeing is because of global public opinion and pressure on the streets in the hallways of power. and, you know, in office sorts of ways, you know, we can talk to talked about and this, you know, in the next minutes. but i think that that is really where and where we should really take note of that. none of this would happen if it wasn't for this public pressure. baloney, 10 nations were just against, including the u. s. u k, and germany were among the 10 nations who abstained. how isolated does this vote? leave the us picking up on a walk, but from what somebody was saying, what message does it send? that is the message likely to be heated, but if so when?

oh, i mean the message is very, very small, right? um, i'll send that to you. any thoughts on something so strongly agree on something that strongly? so the message is very kid. the question is, what's going to result in tomorrow messages saying, i mean, it was an interesting community living in africa and the 3 countries did. the 3rd for it's to obtained was, i mean, i'd be hearing about it against it. i'm so, you know, even in a continent our servers is africa, there's seems to be a very, very strong message. and one has to ask, how can they not these, you know, call can one not us for a ceasefire up to everything, but we've seen and, and, and you know, that we've seen on television screens now. so, so no, but the question is, of course, the with abiding administration and all they actually going to heat this message. and while one would think that a route to increasing the start thinking about the fact that he is losing a lot of support to sign america from the liberal left. but, but it's, you know,

it seems like this relationship with, with israel just keeps on holding them in some way, both financially and, and also to magically seems to consistently still support as well in the school. today i'm picking up on that allies as opposed to speak, supposedly, of allies, at least in public, can take a more honest and robust tone in private. what are we to make that a president bivens remarks that as well as indiscriminate bombing of gaza, is losing it? public support of the p. m. prominence to nothing. yeah. who needs to change his government and his thoughts on a 2 state solution? where is that coming from to well i, i believe that the president biden is probably speaking about his own public opinion because he's rails public opinion. i mean, it's right of support all over the world. i've never really existed on the policy and calls, i think the, the vote, the you a national, a general assembly,

a resolution on, on file, on palestine reflects what the, i would say. historic opinion in the global south is about the conflict and the, the faith of the police being and people on the rights of the pricing and people. it is in the, in the west, in the united states, in the, in the european union where governments have been supportive of these rail. somehow in disconnect, uh, width, uh, a growing uh portion of their own public opinions wire. of course i polled at the uh, the barbaric uh campaign of bumping that has been uh, that has been imposed over a guys a. and of course it is their own stands, their own stands um, uh, supporting israel despite the lease. uh, i would say, approves that i that are visible due to the old public opinion to the world that is creating an internal problem in

a western societies and for western governments such as the us government, the president obama and, and i, i think he's referring to that public opinion that doesn't understand how governments in the west are so supportive of the government of israel at a respectively of uh, its actions that are clearly violating international law. and of course, gonna be the more crimes. and let's discuss the points that you bring up that with, with somebody at somebody. what do we, what do we to make up? was that the stock differences in positional as well? and that's building of gaza, of governments. i'm not talking about public opinion hit now, but the governments in the global south, compared to those rich nations in the north. a look at the whole issue really stems from the fact that israel is ultimately european suffering from colony. so it makes perfect sense. the europeans,

so the richard country is europeans. americans are going to support their, their sellers. and so i think this is, this is a really important point that keeps getting messed. and this is why there is a real interest from the us to support. uh is really state because it supports it's, you know, it's interest and in the region and i really know i would go as far as to say that we talked about ethnic cleansing and genocide. but really i think what we see here is, is a u. s. actively involved in this and it's just as really, soldiers doing the, you know, the labor of it, but i think this is why you don't see global south countries supporting as well. they're, they're not, you know, it isn't a global south such a colony. so i think this is, and i think 11 other thing i'd want to say on, on president biden's remarks is that, you know, he's,

he's such as things to this effect in the last month said, you know, things are just, are public opinion, has a shifting and so on, and i, i find these as sort of diversions are just ways of to sort of buy by time. i mean, you know, you can keep saying those, but ultimately the us can turn off the sort of the weapon supplies. it continues to do so even even in light of these massive atrocities. and it could, you know, turn this off and according to is really generals and former generals. they would tell you that it would. and this for very quickly, if that stops a lot of it is this shattering the reputation of nations who continue to stand by israel, the war and gods. right. i mean, and what does this, this conflict mean for international law? who in future police has nation state actors when they appear to be able to act with impunity? so let me just the same sense of what the previous people say your name. um and you

know, of course that south africa was very much a corvette official label. exactly that such and, and so the forget a very rare and beams the government in particular israel. i purchased relationships with israel. i started with the plastic government for many years and how many of the weapons that were actually who's killed. i'm terrified the documents came either from israel directly or through as well. and so, you know, then of course also that the anti government can see how the palestinian cause, the fight for freedom against land, occupation, et cetera, very much in there as they own bottle full for so many decades for freedom in south africa, monday off coast time. is to say, that's all the africans wouldn't be free until the spring and people are also free . and so i just wanted to, to a code back in terms of international law, you know, as an african and somebody from the global south. the global south is always site,

and it's always pointed out for very long time from, well, not always, but certainly for decades and the bunker. so when it comes through international norm, the application of international, in particular, when it comes to a superpower like america, who likes to pay the sort of global policeman. and yet, when the rules have to apply to them for 2 countries that they support, they often change the rules or somehow one to reinterpret the the, the rules. and that's not something new for, for people in the global talk. we are very aware of that and, and, and so the question is not a new question. it is just the way that this is finally the tipping point, where the world will see about getting her to use the children's story that the king actually has no turns on when it comes to america. and in this, in this moral global question, to me it is a tipping point. to what extent is this a defining moment? not just for the you when, but the current world or the country is the claim to stand for defending human

rights or well, yeah it, it is a test. definitely. it is a test, but it is reassuring to see that in the general assembly of the united nations. so to unanimous stands in defense of the rights of the by this thing and people in this particular case. but that's also um and says a lot about the aspiration of the global south and the international community at large to have an international i would say international around that is organized around international law so that every country has to abide to international law. and in this case, it is very clear that the behavior of, of israel is, of course, opposed to, to those values at the same time in the united nations, for instance, one's one country like israel behaviors in such a manner, there should be,

you know, the recourse of the united nations security council where, you know, the members of the security council would be able to impose sanctions, international sanctions, in this case, to the country. and that he's violating international law. but we all know that there, you know, the police ago logic and the political logic impulses itself because the united states would exercise its veto, right? so it's, it's a moment where at the same time, you see these very low desperation. but also where you can show the limits of the current international architecture that the tools of the air. but there are also political tools for those countries. one peoples a uni, latrell vision of, of, of, or, and you using a lateral a flores in the international realm. so it becomes very clear to the, i would say, the international public opinion, what needs to be changed in these architecture for once again a,

a more balanced and, and, and peaceful, an international arena to the, to exist. so to me it is to you and currently a complete waste of time. nothing but a debating phase of of which is a dream. some of the it's critics have been saying for a long time that it's not fit for purpose, it's credibility. and once again, that of the security council's is on the line here right now, isn't it? but if the you and count stopped the indiscriminate killing of, of innocence, it's as good as useless. well, it, i understand and share that frustration, but at the same time is the only tool available for small countries. those who cannot impose force. so if i mean this, this is again, this is reality. probably pick any, any indeed in the face of really the only thing that you and cannot do much, but at least a days a form where that injustice can be on the line. i think it's very important that

these is that you know, that it's the ability to the international and for the international community and the global sales to express its opinion at to on and to unveil the double standards . and the justice is, is in itself something that is a worthy of keeping. but i understand, of course, the frustration that these tools do not allow the international community to stop the killing and, and the oppression over the policing. and people belong to joe to come into an, an unexplained depending on what to be of a safe as well. i mean, again from south africa, africa. and i think more generally the global sanchez for very, very long time complained and pointed out that a body like and sticking into your in security council is not representative off the whole close. and neither does it serve the need and the interest of all are very large section 2 sides of the world as population. and so they have been

critical about this for so long. but i do, of course, also like bodies of the i can scan it and it, and it is worthwhile mentioning that south africa has lost quite a while ago already the international criminal court to issue a warrant of the arrest for president nathan, y'all, the full, full crimes that's going to be, i think from a, from a southern perspective, it's going to be very interesting to see what the, i should see will do that the, but i do agree that you know, at the moment we don't actually have something better than to you and get to, to hold countries to account. and of course on an economic level, this is why breaks and you have seen such a big expansion and development around bricks, way more than 40 countries. wanted to be part of this. um and what 6, quite the countries were and into the breaks this year. and we'll start being full partners on the 1st of january. and that is all part of the effect of the global south and also of africa to form a balancing power and or

a balance against the sort of super power, particularly america, and who seems to often not acting the interest of, of the global. so a semi and also the general assembly vote is rails and boy called the you when a moral stain on humanity. and as far as public level opinion is concerned, i mean, you could argue that he has a point not. so the reason is that he has actually arguing up the time, but many people are so frustrated with the you as a parent impotence. well, people a dying every hour and gotcha, yes, i think you know, listening to share other to guess the one thing that strikes me is that and you said this as well as this is not the 1st time we talked about the you and not meeting its responsibilities, but i think this is one of those moments where the global self countries could

really take the charge and, you know, i think the i c, c is a defunct institution. and they, i think global south countries should be thinking about alternative institutions and just bypassing, you know, the western powers. but of course, you know, and that is in some way as a dream talk. but i thought i was gonna say, how, how, how savvy would that, how would that work? which well, i mean i, i think if you have a 150 nations that have agreed on something they can actually take action and say, you know, we're going, we're going to and. busy as a no fly zone on, on israel, and put that on the table as a threat. and let's, let's see where that goes. i mean, you know, i, i assume i have my, i imagine that as things would probably eventually de escalate from there rather than escalate into a global war. i don't think that that's where i would go beach, but that's the threat of something like that. or, you know, it's uh, thinking about an alternatives, an international criminal court to sort of, uh,

you know, put these things on a table. um, not allow is rarely politicians to travel around like as if they're not committed. war crimes. think some of these things are really important ways that we could, you know, put, put pressure to think about new institutions because we just, you know, we get to this point every time. this is not the 1st time on palestine that we've talked about. it's uh the incapacity of to you on, but we find ourselves here every time. and it's, you know, it's tiring and college students are dying in the meantime. and when they're not dying and brand great numbers as they are. and because of their dying of slow genocide, a way that you see, for example, in the west bank, right, where as the territory is shrinking and shrinking and shrinking, and so, you know, but, but under the radar and nobody chairs, nobody cared about the prisoners until october 7th, and now you know, people are talking about publishing and prisoners throw. somebody's got

a point has to be amended at the store because of it being high time foot for new institutions is what i'm good. but in the meantime, people people are dying now. absolutely, absolutely. but again, and i'm a, it is ultimately, if you will, because now we move from the framework off. and we have shown the limits of the international institutions on international law. but it's probably been to the public opinions in the countries that are supporting this horrendous policies. uh, for instance, the public opinion in the united states should put pressure on his government. i mean it's, it's a political action. he's always difficult if it requires a building appropriate tools. why are in western politicians but to uh, to the scrutiny by their own public opinions on, on the supporting of

a base rail. that why don't we have of a brother or deeper discussion in the countries are responsible ultimately for supporting israel, the invest a business probably the way you know it is probably the national public opinions that need to do the work in order to change the policies of their own countries which are of backing and probably the meat of this very same people in these ro, again, where is that public opinion and israel, and is it supportive of these horrendous campaign? again i, i think this, this is a time again to, to focus on where things can be changed immediately in order to reach what we are hope for it, which is a ceasefire. and then i believe the resolution that takes you to accounts to ride some of the people on the final. what do you then do you have any hopes that that that could happen, that this can be brought to a conclusion quickly without further suffering and death? it was probably not that quickly, but certainly i never on the estimate,

the strains of ordinary people on the government if they start united and i agree, this is now public opinion that has to really push because even for example, i think countries should turn their attention now to the us as well, not only to israel because we can see that it's not really working with as well. but i think it's countries like, for example, in your opinion and etc. so it's pretty impression on america that could also help in more speedily bringing forth a peaceful resolution which so discouraging needed for the people of garza. a lot of you, you really think that it's going to come ultimately down to people power. well, people pushing the political leaders to stop, you know, these riders are made a t a, they will not stop until they will. they be around decatur tomas, which i think anybody who's grown up amongst liberation movements know that you cannot stop and particularly diverse organizations by killing them. you have to

take away the conditions that tool that motivates them to exist. um and you know, i think the, we know that it's not working on and on these row, but i think the public opinion needs to push the rest of the world to all stand together. and we've seen many of them have come together now. but the remaining months, and in this case, particularly america, who funds a large extent as well, or to a large extent contributes to the funding of this will. and also will be at the end in public. i'm so, you know, supports the will. and i think we need to generate, that is what's going to to make the difference is the pressure to, to, to stop it that we must and our discussion. many thanks indeed to you or send me home as a, not a photo of it. and to me, a part us to of thanks to you for watching, you can see the program again at any time by going to the website at delta 0 dot com for further discussion. join us with our facebook page on facebook dot com

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