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word welcome to the program and serial then yea. after more than 2 months of war and siege, more chaotic scenes at the rasa crossing as people fight to get desperately needed to humanitarian aid. before the war, 850 trucks of 8 entered the strip every day through the car and we sell them crossing with israel and the ralph of crossing with egypt. now that ended when israel imposed a complete blockade on october, the 7th. israel has temporarily reopened the route through current level, so land for the 1st time to allow in more humanitarian $8.24 trucks were allowed through. that was on sunday, but that's far short. the big, huge needs of the palestinians. should the united states a storage ally of israel be doing more to help them? and how complicit is washington is missing? humanitarian catastrophe. that's unfolding. we'll discuss all this in a moment 1st though. this report from victoria getting a desperate
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scramble to see the use of it. the rest of the crossing agency. satan's hosp, the people in gauze, stopping address in the south. is it the epicenter of what the un describes as an apocalyptic humanitarian crisis? we are teetering on the edge of possible inclusion because the reason more and more a breakdown of us to be the older and as long the return the assistance remain to crumble compared to the immensity of the new to the mor, this tension would continue. the more environment is becoming impossible. israel's rule has taken an unprecedented told and causes entire population. the un says 1900000 palestinians, that's more than 85 percent of its people have be not received from the homes. move in a 1000000 have been pushed to raffle, which is now the most densely populated area in the strip to discuss and this new
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sanitation, the un says around 2200000 people need few days to suffice. a number let the amount about this be no flower for 3 or 4 days. there's no water, no rice with suffering does nothing living conditions are 0 percent even minus 0. the one i've come every day since wednesday and returned empty handed. i spent the nights outside the gates while the area was being bombed. it's very difficult to endure the suffering. i'm not able to buy food for my children, but the problem is really loud and limited amount of a 3 the kurama we send them costing on sunday. that's the 1st time since the storms of the war on garza for this, israel's army continues from bought the strip. you and officials a warning the limited delivery of desperately needed humanitarian age, could lead to a breakdown in civil order. victoria gay to be the inside story. the
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5 to begin our guests from washington dc is robert hunter, former us ambassador at the nato from arlington. virginia is how that of getting the senior fellow at the middle east institute and director of palestine, and is really palestinian affairs at the institute. also from washington. dc is zayna ash raleigh hutchison, director of development and expansion of the american arab antique discrimination committee. you are an activist. thank you. oh for joining us. robert. first question to you since the us is israel. single biggest backer diplomatically, politically, militarily, economically. how much of this q monetary and disaster? and we've just seen those, those that footage of people fighting to get that food at the roof of border crossing. how much of this humanitarian disaster is the us actually responsible for? perfect. okay, everybody here sympathized. advertise with israel on october, the 7th. and how i subtract accounts about 1200 people and it took 240
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hostages. but that was now 2 months ago. sense van with a major is really on a slot to on gaza, which is code i guess in excess of 20000 people. now, and maybe 50100 and the displacement of 8590 percent. maybe even more updates on the attention around the world and attention here shows the media as shifted to the disaster. the catastrophe, i think it's the word used uh for a power study and people. and there really is only one thing that can be done right now is the president and his face has to tell the prime minister of israel to stop the bombing to stop to or and do it right now. because every day it goes on is not only worse because of people, there is becoming worse for the president of the united states. and is it
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ministration? you're not, you're not completely answering my question, robert, i, i take all your points. but the question is, how much is the you? how much can the us be blamed for this? since the us is providing diplomatic cover for is real military assistance and economic health as well. how much can the united states be blamed, of israel is actually doing not as a to fighting and, and the killing other civilians as well as, i guess some people felt harmless, but the united states is really only patriot patron. the bomb is most of the bonds were supplied by the united states. some of them are high tech weapons, some of that are what they call them. bob, we are actively engaged in this fight because way to how added stage support. israel wouldn't be able to carry it on, and we're, we're uh, is rolling a whole new friend in the world. everybody in the world knows it was
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a board shop. if the united states is real, it has to stop. so do i infer from that that you blame the u. s. at least in part for this or not quite? well i, i think of stressing blame is quite useless. i'm trying to make the point that mc and added, stacy said, stop it. it would have to stop if you want to call out time. uh, i have to do it, but it certainly agency and it certainly engagement. and it certainly responsibility of the united states now i to, to get israel to stop how it over to you. you title your recent book blind spot, american and the palestinians from bell for to trump is the palestinian suffering. a blind spot in u. s. foreign policy circles or, and us decision making i think there's no question that it is
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in the united states. us specials have historically had multiple blind spots most often to palestinian political aspirations and grades. but now we're seeing a very pronounced wind spot with regard to palestinian humanity. it's, it's, uh, i think it's clear the united states is there is enormous responsibility and frankly is complicit. and that you minute, terry and catastrophe unfolding and gaza. the united states has supported israel at every stage of this war. there are many things the united states could have done that. it did not do. we could have laid out red lines very early on with regard to civilians. it could have said it's not acceptable to recognize as starvation and disease in, in the, to the directed that an entire civilian population. we know that these are always
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deliberately causing a humanitarian catastrophe. and that is part of its strategy. and instead of laying out clear red lines upfront, the united states and frankly, all of western europe, primarily a most of western europe, have also as we, as in this, in this catastrophe, no one spoke out to say it is not acceptable to use food and water and met us in as a weapon of war. and so do united states, there's the 18 norris' responsibility in this, frankly, finding it very difficult. having offered no red lines in a and a bright green lights, the united states has now. it's kind of painted itself into a corner where they can't rain in the uh, the, the, the,
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the military machine. uh, the, the death and destruction of that is being inflicted on does that, how did you mention starvation? it's just today, just a few hours ago, a human rights watch published a report called starvation as a weapon of war. starvation used as a weapon of war and gaza is the exact title of the report. i'll quote from it. human rights watch rights. the is really government is using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare in the occupied gaza strip, which is a war crime is really forces are deliberately blocking the delivery of water, food and fuel. apparently raising agricultural areas, depriving the civilian population of objects indispensable to their survival. xena xena shortly hutchison, i want to bring into this conversation. so the question that i was asking robert at the top of the show is how much the us can be blamed for it. i understand roberts point that you know, he doesn't see value and assigning blame,
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but that so many of our viewers are asking this very same question. if you have one party to the conflict that is not directly involved, but that is allowing the other to carry out the war and the result of the war is starvation and a humanitarian crisis. how much do you blame that supporting party? and that's, you know, that's the central question that we're asking today. i mean, i think it's there, i mean, complicity is simplistic even at the u. s. has been directly involved in this genocide since it's since the very beginning with generals on the ground with something weapons and bombs and, and financial aid for some diplomatic cover and support continuously. we also can't forget that we talked about guys and the gaza strip right now in terms of genocide . but before this genocide started, garza was in a really precarious position. there was food in security. they didn't have clean water to drink. there was no segmentation, you know, of the infrastructure present. so before this genocide started, garza was in
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a precarious position. and now it's beyond comprehension. to be quite honest. and the u. s. has known about this has been complicit and directly involved in this genocide from the one and enabled it to continue with the assignments as well as a financial and diplomatic support. but i also want to emphasize, but in order for them to content for the us to continue this support for israel, they need to have local support for j for the genocide. so for decades, and it's sort of encapsulated in, in, in the gaza strip right now. but for decades the united states has given cover for israel to do whatever israel wants to do, financial diplomatic, federally with resolutions and bills which we've seen now since the start of the, of the genocide in the goes district, a record number of bills have, have gone through the, the, the federally through congress conflicting anti semitism with the criticism of israel, etc. and there's also u. s. organizations back in 1000000000 funding,
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legal supplements. i mean, we can go on about this. there's a fact involvement the so i mean the involvement of, of, of the united states in the genocide on gaza. but also in the ethnic cleansing interceptor, colonialism. the tungsten has been experiencing is direct and long term. just a few more data points to submit to all of you that are taken from this human rights watch report on starvation used as a weapon of war and gaza on november 15th, the last operational we mil in the gaza strip was bombed by israel november 28th, we had a report that more than a 3rd of agricultural land in northern, in the northern gaza strip, had been damaged or destroyed. this comes from the palestine food security sector. the world food program says the serious risk of starvation in gaza on december 6th . the only water, the foundation plant in northern gaza was stopped being functional and on and on and on and goes and you know, the broader picture that this paints is, it becomes very difficult at this stage. and that's
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a massive understatement. to eat, to drink and to do all those things that just on a very, very basic level, keep people alive from it. i'll come back to you with this idea of values. one of the things, one of the pillars of america's power in the world is that it claims to uphold values and to be a more ethical power. then other countries, right? then some of its rivals, when the us ties itself to something like this, where people just can't eat enough. and there's a very simple answer by the way. it's very simple solution to this, allow in more humanitarian aid in us a so that people can eat and drink at a bare minimum when the us ties itself to something like this. what does it do to its power around the world? this is one of the biggest concerns i think the united states has really say it ministration should have in terms of overall americans standing in the world. at the moment,
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the us reputation for karen gave play about some monetary issues has been shredded by what to turn yahoo and is government. and israel in general are doing. the united states is complicit as a war could not continue without united states of the united states could demand instantly a humanitarian supplies, and the united states could instantly tell mister netanyahu. that door has to stop . the president united states could tell jeanette and you know that that is what has to happen. and i don't think even an after you know could afford to ignore web dia and how did stage wants to do. but we, the americans are paying a very heavy price for what has been done in this war. and it's going to be difficult for us to go back anywhere else in the world and talk about how other countries behave, o resurrection, burma, or in china,
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or the central african republic. the united states no longer at the moment, has any credibility, as you monetary a country. following up on where you just said, why isn't the us president picking up his phone, giving these really prime minister a call and saying, now this has to change, and we're going to have to allow in more a water and other basic necessities into the gaza strip. as well as not just as to stop the bombing of by to which, which makes it worse. you can have all the amount of terry and a you one, but it's a continue to slaughter people. uh, that's not gonna help the is dead people. oh, why is the president doing it one because he has a lifelong attachment to particular and his generation to is a security and prosperity and future of the state of, of israel. but also he has political calculations. we're now while we're delivered
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much before the next presidential election, he has to think about a major part of his constituency. so in some ways, and this is what, as an american, within our politics trouble has made very deeply i pay or is that the president is looking to, is political base. let's call on for one. it is called the israel lobby and not wanting to offend the lobby, coming out as saying, i was sorry for the go to the united states, and yes, the long term good of israel, as well as other standing is this most stop now. and frankly, if the president made that clear to mr. hatch and yahoo, hey, would be taking out a huge risk for his country if he did not comply holiday identity and saying that i want to hear you on, on this issue of us politics as well. and, and re election chances, if you take a stronger approach to israel. but how did you 1st on this?
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do you suppose subscribed to this notion that you do not get re elected as us presidents? specifically, the binding would not get re elected as us president if at this juncture he were to be harder on israel. i mean, that's been the conventional wisdom for us, for many, many years of the, the irony is that today the political landscape is quite different. and, and it looks like the reverse may, may even be true that this might be, you know, the, the, the, the ministrations handling of this issue has been criticized and, and is opposed by large segments of the american population of well beyond the air bus and communities more progressive but, but particularly is a base young people, people of color, certainly the air, but most of the communities in, in, in the united states are quite angry at his,
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uh, his, uh, uh, parent indifference to college sydney and suffering. and, and his entire handling of this war. so we've seen a pause show that he's actually lost considerable support as a result of this. and so this might actually be the 1st time a, an american president loses an election because of their support for israel, as opposed to the opposite. uh the uh, but uh, you know, we, i'm not entirely convinced that that the president is acting purely or even primarily with regard to domestic politics. i think he is a true believer. i think he is passionate about his support for israel. and he is, it is partly generational, but it's also uniquely a jo by other presidents who also been quite
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a unshakable in their support for israel. have at least been able to see the bigger picture from a human standpoint, from a strategic standpoint of the uh, the, the person of adult bite and seems to be completely blinded even to the realities of how this is going to harm us interest. as well as is really security going forward? mean there's no, there's no, it's impossible to imagine that in israel inflicting this level of human and material destruction on gaza is somehow going to bring security or stability to anyone. i didn't get anyone with some basic common sense, never mind empathy can, can understand that. and so we're talking about a, a serious blind. is it a serious kind of emotional attachment that has blinded him even to the damage he's doing to american interests?
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and, and that is, i think, very, very much a part of the person of joe biden, rather than simply a political or geo political set of calculations. okay, that's really interesting. i want to come back to a part of this, but 1st zayna i had you waiting in the wings there about this, this u. s. domestic politics question. you tweeted not that long ago election season is about to go in overdrive and palestinians will pay the price of 2 failed leaderships. so you do seem to believe that this is going to be dictated how the us behaves on this issue is going to be dictated, at least in part, by us, domestic political considerations. how do you think that shapes what we're going to see or so i mean just to go back a little bit while many supported biting begrudgingly under false pretense and with the intimidation of the vote for lesser of 2 evils in 2020, if you will. there is no longer a viable option for many, and there simply is no worse than genocide. you know. uh, so for decades,
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but i'm assuming american air, mac, and most of the american boat has been taken for granted, particularly by the democratic party as any other party that boasts intrusion, diversity, human rights, the umbrella, i'm using a system of tokenize ation, intimidation, mostly political, decorative lip service we've, we've heard the talk many times. we're starting to see people accuse and label pro does a protest vote as a vote against democracy like a protest against a bite. and if people don't vote or um, so accusations level against those demanding an end to genocide, but 2 months later, remain on the need it. and i want to make it very clear that the intimidation tactics and blame of have been used for decades. this is not reason for decades on disenfranchised voters. that if we don't vote for by the or the democratic party, it's a vote against democracy is not just the emphasis of democracy. but it also strategically absolves the burden administration in the space and the democratic party from
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accountability on the direct involvement as we were discussing it earlier in genocide and distract again from the same leadership of the political lead. um, i mean imagine, imagine that assuming americans and every american citizen, americans and allies being chastised for refusing to support the killing of your own family members, or imagine being shamed for refusing to be complicit in their re sure of your own people. imagine being blamed for the failure of democracy simply for participating in it. if our votes are challenging a system that has historically been reliant on marginalizing manipulating bullying and targeting minorities as an undemocratic. then again, this isn't the democracy. many in leadership have long perfected dyslexia in blame, as we know in projecting their own political shortcomings on those who are less capable and or less equipped, less equipped to defend or protect themselves. and this is also by designed so um, a potential binding harris last can only be blamed on by the harris and their administration and the democratic party. and the other claim is disingenuous to be
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quite frank and, and sorry to take up too much time. but let me be very clear here. i'm not saying not to vote now or don't put in fact, i hope that has been an american every american, most americans and allies in our community, register family and friends to vote. go out and educate people and what it means to vote and what your voice means. and richard, let's say that the, here's the, here's the thing i'm sorry to interrupt and jump in. but here's the thing about the about about when you go to the polling station, you know, on, on, when it's, when it's election day in the us presidential election to the less than it's about 11 months away. now, just under 11 months away, is that voters will likely at this stage, it's not a guarantee but likely have the choice between biden and trump. so anybody who wants to punish bite and on account of the way he handled this war would potentially be voting for trump. yeah, and i'm not sure if your moral compass says i wanted more support the palestinians and therefore i'm not voting for biting. i'm not sure that same moral compass then
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leads you to a vote for trump. yes, but nobody. first of all, it's, this is what democracy is. when you have a 2 party system, you have to vote for one or the other. and then you saying they should vote for trump that a saying that people who support the policy and cause should the trump in november of 2024? absolutely not. i'm actually not advocating for a vote for trump or the republicans at all. in fact, i disagree with almost all of their policies and what i am saying is showing up to vote and writing and a name or simply booking for don. but it's kind of, it's based on the policy. it's a comfortability for genocide and for 75 years, 75 plus years of adult to infinity. but the us at the, for the israel, at the expense of the pedestal, young people and the morality of our just cause. so accountability is uncomfortable, but it's pills in the face of genocide and ethnic cleansing of the that's happening right now in palestine. the democratic party, what are those needs to have some serious soul searching after this? many already felt that they don't belong in the party, but we're,
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we're merely tokenize and, and being part of the party because they don't have anywhere else to go. now it's time to act on it. and this is not because the, the air, but most of the communities either if i may. so robert, we have about 3 minutes left, a little under 3 minutes in the show. at this point. there's a question we asked at the very top of the show and i recognize it's a little bit more aspirational, but we said what can be done to stop this humanitarian catastrophe? you've been a practitioner right of diplomacy at the highest level. you were nato and bassett. or what would be your answer to that question as well to present united stage age to tell the problem has to have the best past desktop and be willing to back it up with each immediately stopping their supply. whether or not so far, that's the whole top stopping, right? you cannot make support. i do what president eisenhower did in 1956 and just said we love is really lovely relationship. but if you don't stop this now,
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they're going to be very serious consequences for you, and he's got to show it. and he's got to make it happen instead of sending people out there as he did this last week. as going to this we could say, well we're really for you, please pretty please don't be so based like to the palestinians. i that is not always stupid. it's crass and it tomorrow. all right, that's all the time we have it today, but thank you so much to everybody for coming. i want to thank our guests, robert hunter, how they've given these a natural we hutchison and thank you to for watching. he can see the program again . any time by visiting our website, that's alpha 0. com, of course, and for further discussion, good, our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on x r handle. there is at a j inside story. from me several then. yeah. and the whole team here in dall. bye for now. the,
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