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hello and welcome to the program. i'm getting you navigate so usually bustling with visitors from around the world. bethlehem is empty. this christmas festivities are muted in the occupied westbank. as israel shows no sign of ending its onslaught in gaza. is really bonds do not discriminate everything. and everyone in the strip is a target from hospitals to schools and from mosques to churches. so what methods are palestinian christian sending to the world by canceling the serious festivities in bethlehem? we'll go to where i guess in a moment. but 1st, this report from michael apple. silent night on christmas eve in a square, usually packed with pulled rooms and tourists of the nativity scene showing the baby jesus and christians believe was born in bethlehem move in 2000 years ago. ult it to reflect israel as war on gaza. we put this model as you'll see,

to reflect the reality. and we are sending a message to the international community. and to come here to stand with us to get in because of the force as the end to step this, aggression against overfeed. and the war in gaza is rainy. raids on palestinian communities in the occupied ways bank and restrictions on movement. it's a time of sorrow and frustration and it's taking a total of businesses that rely on the holiday season. habits cool saw the situation in bathroom. it's hard because 80 percent of the economy here depends on tourism and we're trying to keep the workshop running for the workers because they all have responsibilities. and this is all i know the address going to come here as long as it will goes on. it's terribly hard inside, it's the same in the old city of occupied east jerusalem shop. so i the shots for mt of customers regardless of this year as much dressing usually as

a height of activity. with all the tobin sit on the fissures, very solemn horse and so many, if you are tokens, we need peace. we are looking for a piece. it's a wish many palestinian christians are praying for both in the occupied waste bank and within gaza. since the beginning of israel's war on gaza, several christian facilities have been attacked and christians killed to. the survivors have little to celebrate. this christmas displaced and separated from feminine body is one of about a thousands palestinian christians. in garza, my last magazine is no one feels the holiday spirit. there won't be the usual christmas decorations or celebrations. we pray to god to end this war soon. stop these massacres. back in bethlehem. worship is a 10 midnight mess in a show of solidarity. the,

the cardinal of the latin patriarch k to of jerusalem didn't pay is traditional visits because of this year. instead, his christmas message to live in in bethlehem, gaza, you will not alone. lots of band and mice level for inside story that's not bringing our guest. joining us from bethlehem in the occupied westbank is at home john freddie, who's action a palace on communications and advocacy coordinator, and writers on the netherlands. as frank bozeman, who's an associate professor of cultural fee ology at the tube, birch school of catholic theology. and from the old city and occupied east jerusalem were joined by sam and use of he's the see of the latin patriarch. it's of jerusalem. thank you all for joining us. a good to be with you on inside story saw me yusef, and occupied east jerusalem. tell us how you are observing christmas. i think the

very sadly i must admit the business to see it is very muted. uh, even only the best sections uh on top of that belongs to resume uh, give them to continue to. the conflicting does uh and of course the lack of any movement uh on the west bank. so it has to be one of the service that concerned the businesses that we have been with this thing and then a long, long, long time the best to have him yesterday. it was very sad in many ways. so i think that our many truck goes up to the front of gun and including of course, the collapse of the tourism sometimes uh, in particular, after the 2nd uh, lock mobility, people could not go into best them. i my son does not go to best buy on yesterday and the check was sort of a couple of hours ago. so uh and of course uh the, the,

uh, government suspension. uh uh, so people, uh, basically access the job is on the, on the lack of any salary is uh, paid by the, the, i've seen a lot of people have been making 10001007. so if you look at that from any angle that you wish and my mom because of the disasters, so but the 2nd bass. uh, but also once i remember less fun. yeah. well, so it's very good to go. so all the combines really, i think the main, the beach actually that's basically gosh, are all celebrations surrounding christmas with the exception for so the, let me just set them on the search me. so last night what the church open it to right. okay, let's get the view from best. let him now were very hands off already. anyhow. every christmas. there's a huge christmas tree that's split up in bethlehem this year. that's not happening . the nativity sculpture and in bethlehem has been put together this year instead

of that christmas tree. tell us about that sculpture and what message it's sending out. and thanks for having me. the yes, the home is very stuff this year. and then we joined in bethlehem to see the 3 is, are full of visitors on products. and the starting ends in christmas to, to the are the creative bought the this, the year to get tub the tub. and if it is the, the best thing, any questions? and the best thing is, most things are hidden, been to him, are sad and, and andre, and celebrating going up or on with this thing the christmas with being with the, what are you with this story about the, what it is happening in miss in gather, i'm the was bank money or but it's been any cris chance or for her in the him. have somebody go through that that in gather some of them,

most of this is evidence of that and what we did is there any text, the thought a good chance to them, and they want to be done in data and the saw the but it did to him thought celebrate, and same thing, get the message to the war. then dot said we'd love to celebrate. we want the word it tool tools to, to support the seats by us to demand the wordly, the story of seats via the stop starting to think about muslims. and because tends to be able in, in data and with the bank. i've also, and they also, and, but it's too many christians feel better. what is other wisdom because they come up so many get with the little bit of friends in gather your through the black, all the communication. and also if they suffer from the movement restriction, they come up to go event that christians who are living in victor. i'm gonna go to joe who said him the other place at the end,

but it's done to do is to meet with this together with the latest to do it to that addiction due to the throat is the closer embossed in different parts of the bank. right? so the message of that is dns. here is the demand stillwater tool, in the book this toward the demantzy toyota authority to be to add to a to b. and just as for better thing is, okay, frank as someone uh from abroad. how do you observe what's going on right now in the occupied territories? and particularly, i mean, every christmas, one of the most important rituals and palestine is the procession of the patriarch from jerusalem taking place on december 24th for catholics. now, this is a tradition to stated back to the ottoman empire, and we understand this here, the procession will go on, but there won't be any festivities. there won't be any musical bands, as there usually are. every year. it's more of a silent procession. how significant is that? so you can, you can see this so significant because usually these kinds of rituals in the roman

catholic tradition also. and by the time a project for them to congress, i talk to somebody and see that it is like a almost like a religious color, as music or a seeing their beautiful decorations all over the city. people are long procession . so for our be people praying people seeing christian christian hands the whole the whole the territories about something to do with us as a patient of the faith of the night and nativity because the with your heart condition. so and, and, and gaza also right. it has to be turned down, of course, not only because there are a notorious under all of those things to call them, but also it's all the time for, for big set appraisal the time to, to celebrate the life. and to celebrate your religious tradition. if, if, if you are in the middle of the wall so, so of course, christmas will continue, your business will be set a branch and has been separated. also in, in, in the guys and the judge, god's office of cost. it's a time of morning. it's

a time of loss and all the time of happiness. unfortunately the christmas is all right, so last feasible, joy and peace. right. so i mean use a for christmas is a national holiday for all palestinians. it's not just the christian holiday, and we understand that even the palestinian authority considers it a national holiday. muslims traditionally to attend the parades as well. give us a sense of the unity at this time of year between the palestinian muslims and the palestinian christians. in the context of the gods or that structurally, i mean, this is a, it is thought of many that is closer than the national holiday. this not only, i mean from a just point of view of the cushion sort of facebook, but also how awesome uh, brothers and sisters do. so have a great time with us while i'm sending this over that again and unity and it is not on the christmas really about that too. i think signifies that unity i think good

because and inventories uh, in the workforce on the back a. so i'll put a to a network off of the schools that are 44 schools that the but he didn't my. ready turn came to the sign, 2 of them on and guys, uh and for the most part, cleaning in the, uh, the majority and that was fine at least uh, so our students uh function that most of the students and us that because the, the, the edition really is not the so the base on the screen, the take place, all christians and muslims, and schools on the streets and soccer pay national trust. the only day i'm that signifies the, the, i think, the, the unity and that's christian, the education, it's an advocate of social services. and it's going to take significant problems. and, and that's the cushion doesn't see the constitutional concern. the cushion perhaps

it's more pain cushion but also so just of the christians on the for the range to be the tell us more about it. just one more question for you. so i mean, just tell us more about the how look we understand the christians and guys a while they're smaller number. they do have an institutional presence in here. we're just mentioning that there are 2 schools that are run by the patriarch. it there, give us a sense of what is the percentage right now of the christian community and gaza, and how strong are they institutionally? as far as the number of questions it goes on really, i mean, talking about the under 1000, the cushions and guys, when we started before the war at 1017. and we have lost 25 people. actually since the beginning of the war, 17 of the same for you to discharge the google hooks on the building so. so to be by the, on the punish, complex m, about 5 or 6 people. uh,

youtube medic, medical uh, neglect. so that age, some theme became sick of but not against medical treatment. so that's when you're talking about 25 people. that's about 2.5 percent of the cushion population does not therefore lines as a result of the consequences, even the key of the water. is that the significance for any initial uh, i've given about the size the, the cushion bones. so these are the contributions in gaza and that's what i'm talking about because you've done it the reason in the gallery in georgia as well. because it shows on this institution of background, screening and education has social services as a promotion to come to beautician from the cushion. now we're really into the building of societies at large. uh and if we can get got some good examples, allow them to turn it to schools that belong to the catholic. go to the circuits in

particular, but there's also rosalie sisters school on the. ready church and then on to other schools cushion the nature of the school and i think what her looks for. so 5, so in total is actually in gaza. right. and the percentage of mission population, there's no more than i would imagine 5 or some combined. so 95 percent of our students and those are the most of them students and so you know, they appreciate that that you sent that this kathlyn christian education i think brings the as part of the educational process. the and frank last spring and frank franklin, we ask you this with the dwindling numbers of christians in gaza in particular, if we just focus on gaza for a moment. and obviously, i mean, human rights organizations are saying that as real as bombing indiscriminately, and they're bombing civilians. and that includes all palestinians and gaza. but if we specifically look at the christians now who say they are being targeted, their, their, their hospitals are being targeted as well as their churches. do you fear that the

christian community is at risk of extinction because of this war? well, i think that the price is what's the christian to say the least birthday is a very difficult. there are a lot of countries where christians can live in relative peace, upside down. there are couple of conference in the middle east by the patient present this already, other message pressure. and this, this was involved raging on and gases of goals was of course, sorry, bad news for the population. the already small population operations in uh, been gone and there are lots of different places to be found. they're connected to the questionnaire differently to getting close to the truck and the 15. it would be a very yeah, great country for, for all the people and god of especially for, for christians because we have so many people. that's the sort of star thing, and that's got to be the relevant to be there. we have been there so long to that because despite smart crisis believes that long. so it would be, it would be an historical trinity. and i'm trying to see if it's bridges,

which seems to exist in, in god. oh, okay. one more for here before i bring under home, but do you think that the christian community, i mean here speak to us from the netherlands, from what you see in sort of the in europe in the western world. do you think that the christian community is speaking out enough when it comes to the attacks against christians and gaza as well as what we're seeing happening in the occupied westbank in terms of the strikes and the blockades and, and the, the effective apartheid there. i think that's i'm saying that the christians in modern days have uh maybe have forgotten how they should to come up for the brother in, in, in the face. so christians in the west are most very common to stand up for those. what point does cutest is not a box also will be north korea are china or in the or in the middle east. so there isn't a lot of them. is much outcry for all the victims of the come fix on both sides of

the conflict. but there is not so much attention to the position of the christians in, in, in this conflict it's not considered to be a very newsworthy kind of item. so there's not, not so much attention, but we should be more. yeah. and i mean, as we say the, the attacks and the strikes in gaza, or in fact targeting everybody and not to, according to human rights organizations, as well as many people that we spoken to here at alpha 0. uh huh. let me bring you in the deputy mayor of jerusalem or earlier this week she was giving an interview to media. and she claimed that there are no christians or churches in gaza saying that they were driven out by him us. when you hear such statements, what does it make you think? and what's your response to that statement is in response to the degree and, and i'm feeling a, the, the statement of your, the gusts and there is

a lot of them, 1000 christians in the, in guides on many christians and with the bank. and this that are to have just been out of scores that are existence. and then i would remind you one of the, one of the victims who is um, usually send it home. but who was killed in this in war by. it's either right. and then also she was more and she was the modern and the head of the achievements and he exists in music and he music cheap month was sage, and achieved on highlighted by monday. but his team and, and the to show that the better thing. and it goes just in gather existing and are going to do think the single best thing is to say to the, to the good think open stand dish and, and they are the very, to speak to, to be bought. i'm community in gazda and they have many achievements. they are

being thought to get the other they bought to beautician in gather. i'm already home for those who might be wondering just tell us how old is the christian presence in gaza? i go to have, oh, they are living today and 4 digits for the, for the home. for sophia's, i don't have exact and okay, just how, how, how long they have been living there, but they are bottle, but it's jimmy on origin. that history in the, in gather and they have a good legacy. i've got history and a good, a cheap rent in addition. and they would, there are many but a scene in regards to contributed on national ab delivered. just, i'm going to go live a 2, but a scene in the history to but as deanna civilization, i mean, i'm the, i'd love that a bit ottoman in, for example, this, but it's doing and few made and use the show do home. but i was a lot of the seen any cars chance who is know on forehead legacy for heading music

for his art, for head contribution, interesting and community in get stuff so we cannot ignore and the and see that they do not exist. they are, they exist and they have a good look as be, and they have an origin of history there in gas, all. okay, so i mean, religious and 8 organizations have been sending coordinates, they say to the u. n, as well as to israel. since the war and garza started in october, but at the same time we've seen israel continued to conduct the operations and continued to strike religious sites as well as hospitals. you'll remember the, the strike on the and the baptist hospital earlier in the war. what is your reaction to these places being hidden this way? and i think one of the great, so actually because indeed we have done what we needed to do from day one of the war. but the coordinates of all day, the churches, in particular, the churches,

all the government and monica, the constitution. so uh, the next word word provided to both parties and the directory. so these are, you know, kind of key is fun to us in the united states and all of the, about the come and the only see until very smooth media and media, those as well. so the coordinate, those are whether or not in many ways and i'm explaining. busy they need to see that on the cushion situations, of course, and what we saw over institutions and that we have to care for them. we have to ensure that you know, the safety of the people that the future in our institutions is bizarre. but, but the gordon, it's a very well known, i think, the very science 80, to see that the, you know, in a particular way, not only the in the, because of us, but also the women that working on the premises of the whole family and church inside the church homebound, in addition to the, i think the starting to the generally the, the, the fuel down right next to him,

which is adjacent to the target. so again, the 16 and recapture done the presidents, the as part of the so the, so let me just ask you this. um, if you don't mind when, when your organization sends coordinates to you, say that is really is as well as b u. n. and even the americans, what kind of response do you get? if you get a response at all? if we don't get the response under the sponsors that they are aware of and that is given to the team and down to every every because i'm going to be they can not to harm civilians. i'm and the are these institutions. so, but this is what i'm more states have, but i'm just judgment that balance and was i'm, this is the, the response that we usually get. right. okay. a frank just to pick up on a point that you were noting a few moments ago you were talking about the christian presence, in fact, in the region and not only in gaza, the archbishop, off on the head,

not from the greek orthodox church in jerusalem. back in 2021. he said that the number of christians emigrating from the middle east has reached unprecedented levels. and he called to preserve this important components in the region. in your opinion, what does the disappearance of the christian elements or the dwindling of the christian elements from palestine mean for the country itself? and also for the region, all the things on the israel and the senior is one of the places where people from the 3 ever medics phase can prove that they need one of the couple of days to get the bottom of them. so if christians muslims, and use cannot find a way to get together, especially in terms of learning about simon and last, throughout the place of a sudden pool and falls free unassisted additions, then, well, then it gets to help the rest of the world. so andrew, israel as a bonus, points of the in semester and it just attention always has been

a challenge for always be and that's fine. and if what else, it's really what happened to disappear altogether from, from israel post findings. what mean? well, to suggest that the only way that the 3 month testing experience is gonna work together was one of them disappeared. so maybe untrue them disappears. would be such a shame for only uh, apartment $6.00, pay for, for humanity. as a whole, we must find a way to work and live together in peace. other hom, can you weigh in on this? so in your opinion, what does the, the dwindling numbers of this religious group in the region mean for diversity of the region? so this means that the, that there are of the many, the political factors, the mainly the occupation of the commission bonuses, if the, and got him back to the immigration of the, in a really just, i'm not in the,

just the groups. i'm there are many brothers being and young people as a uh, including most of the christians. oh, uh, i said, look for immigration for him, but it's fine. and the from guess on to from with the bank is due to the mutation you deal with the whole deb tentative to do it to the, to go situation. so this means that the and they are affected or the current and the continuous, the blockade embossed in gas up in was the bank. this picture is this means that, that is danielle. a young people investing in somebody has told me great or leaving to buy this time. and they and they are not interested in the immigration. the other got this book. they want to seek another place where they could find the better living or but the condition to live at this. and this is an indication for immigration, different parts of the senior society outside,

but it's time. so i'm in here. so if with you, give us the final word on your final thoughts on this topic. the store, right? i think uh, the only that wouldn't be the lady said they saw the cushion because uh this abuse and i would like to cancel things on the value. so maybe the, the condition that you sent me is one of your loan forgiveness and coexist samsung and respect and love and peace. and then this message really focus that for the rest of the venue set up for the rest of the institutions through servers as a whole, new institutions of medication to social services. that message doesn't change due to the time, of course. so even a time for that message remains the same and the best message disappears from the scene. what is the other message that today we are on the seats and the bench i'm off coming up on struction. that's all i'm and so. so you need, you honestly name the message that's more than anything message really to remain as

part of the most saying or going on. the will be a very, very sad face. this oppression, the presence disappears, and my home really the presence reduced classmates of interest from the institutions of the various churches that are providing the services. once the support is over, they also i would like to see the stronger mission business and the one your number, then the diminished okay. on that. no it's, we'll leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. sort of home as off already . thank you, frank. bozeman, we appreciate your time, and so i'm in use of thanks very much. thanks for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. delta 0 is all com for further discussion. you can go to our facebook page, dots, facebook dot com, forward slash inside story. you can join the conversation on x or handle is a j inside story from myself and the whole team here. and so how, thanks for watching bye for enough, the,

the president biden says, wants a 2 state solution for palestinians and israelis. what does anybody believe it's doable? what this is real for? i'm gonna say it back to us foreign policy. and what are the long term consequences for the region and the world? the quizzical look at us politics, the bottom line. what constitutes exempt. so we generally talk, you will see, i want you to start with just the facts rather as to what happened as independent. we won't be, we want the education i want to, we don't have lead them in different countries. in the policy, i'm going to get 50 percent representation and accountability and benefit knowing 1000 service, this placement. and then you're saying you'll have your reports with that i should just trust the community often as i find the cool that used to

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