one such a gnc on 1st day that we are watching live pictures from ramallah in the occupied westbank part of a series of very wide ranging is ready middle she rides across the occupied territory. during the course of the hours of the morning, as in rome was saying the largest that he can remember seeing suddenly it is a very major raid inside ramallah, but also elsewhere is ready. military vehicles have entered the the cities of the novelist and janine and hebron and to car him as well to car. and whether it was a drone strike 24 hours earlier that killed 6 young palestinian men in wrong. you actually went to report that out just a few hours ago. can you tell us a bit more about what happened in that incidents and how that fits into the general talking, which was seeing more right now as well. newer it sounds comp is actually been

rated, was rated twice within the 24 hour period. both times we had the force, he is ready military vehicles that went into the account. 200. is there any soldiers on foot um, in the 1st grade um that these really say that they destroyed in a controlled explosion. house that they said was an improvised explosive device making factory. but when we go down to the scene itself, it's about 10 minutes off to the right. it ended the smoke billowing, how this controlled explosion, these right. he said that took place that they did against this building actually destroyed 4 of the buildings and surrounding it. the municipality having to tear down those buildings because the 2 damaged and i mean full left indian families now homeless. so that goes into questioning whether the raid was actually controlled or

not in the 2nd sort of the explosion was controlled on most in the 2nd rate. i began around midnight and then it was the t a. m a group of men between the ages of 17 and punch, knowing me is. ready hit by a drain strike. the jury strike actually severely injured all of the men. the paramedic who arrived on the scene 1st described it as being absolutely horrific. he said, uh there was blood everywhere. the little body bodies that little log on the floor completely into these re lease rainy's wouldn't allow ambulance and to come and get them. um uh, 19 minutes later the policies are actually pick up these people and take them down to the amazon close by. wow. okay, that was huge. that is a, that sounded like a drawing strike. uh,

i can see smoke. okay. okay. that sounded like during strike. that was absolutely huge. um, not far from where we are again. as the crow flies, the center of the raid seems to be taking place about half a mile away from me. uh, i can smell. i can smell the explosive. sit, gave me an right now. uh more classes taking place. uh, i don't know if she managed to hit a hurry, but that was um, that sounded like a veneer cycle or a drawing so i can presuming a drawing strike this has taken place. well indeed and you know you've, you've been talking about how this is the biggest rate that you've seen inside ramada. i mean, that has been increasing instances of drug strikes that one you were just talking about 24 hours ago. but the idea of

a drug strike inside the confines of ramallah itself is, is that happen to your knowledge since the world again? no, i con, confirm whether that loud explosion that you just had was indeed a drawing strike. but it's something that, that level of noise would track that it would be something like an extra cycle, a drawing strike. this is essentially a roll. this is, you know, we all, we have seen the use of drawings in janine refugee camp. and now in order some, but this seems to be a tactic that the is right, and these are now using a much more freely than perhaps they would have done pre, i'll tell you with the 7th, sorry, i'm just trying to see if i can get a position where no outside and they come see me due to stacy so i'm wrong to be you know i, i know it's a, it's yeah, i am being careful. i just, i called for you many billowing smoke, but yeah, definitely there is the,

i can smell the explosive and yeah, so even if it's, you know, even if it's a couple of miles away from hey, i'm still within the center within the absolute center of room i love, i think it's probably the off at columbus of the comments or away from where i'm standing. yeah, this is going to be, i mean, walk through the part of the palestinian authority, respond to this happening in the sense of everyone that remember this is the political faith as well. you know, this is where the politicians gather. the carpet is the very effective policy, and i'm a drawing strike in the middle of the city, particularly when you know, the rate that was taking place um we had was against my exchange shelves. i mean, clearly there is a big target and we don't the rule that is right now. well indeed we, we need to be as you have been careful with exactly what's taking place. but you

are reporting a very sizable sound of an explosion, right in the heart of ramallah. and this is part of a lexus of such raids across the occupied westbank during the course of the hours of the morning. can you? i know you've been very much focusing on what's happening there. so perhaps this is an unfair question, but to what extent do you know what else has been going on up and down the west bank during the course of these rights. so they have like you, you say they mentioned earlier rates in the janine and the hebron maybe else a lot. com. i'm counting into a car and i'm kind of just off the top my head. you may be able to have more information there, but there's at least 6 rates going on currently. um uh there are just to give you the, the numbers um, 42 a today that the official policy. and you can figure that out actually counting since october, the 7th of those a very, very,

very large numbers. we didn't have that kind of level of rates tweak. i'll tell you . but this, having the tactics for the rate is actually changed as well. used to be old taking place at nights. now rate is do take place during the day as well. and the limits of the rates has actually gone up in janine comp. just last week there was a re but last of the 50 hours. a g 's, right, these board and more, more reinforcing to injure jeanine, refugee camp. this is now the, the, the, what happens on a nightly basis. we used to describe the range kind of going to be occupied based on the occupied westbank is being called in may not be basis. that's now switch to a 90 basis. i need to multiple locations used to be that the work in a long or maybe 2 locations. probably still probably the 7th, but pre owned have the 7th, but since then it's multiple locations as we say or and counting. um i think 5

grades going on at the moment, how are you? i think you have updated numbers that or rather, and that in terms of some of what's happening right now in ramallah. the idea of these extended and by the sounds of things pretty fierce confrontations. it's the sort of thing that you might expect to take place in jeanine. whether it has been an extremely active and coalescing group of around town, a city and fighters. so just to be happening, as you say, right in the center of ramallah where the policy and it's already has this long track record of security cooperation with these relays, nevermind. having cells or potential and fighters, baffling in the streets against is ready for us. is it is, it does pull you out, doesn't it? as it goes, i just want to be absolutely clear the, i don't know if you have been on the classes with policies. i've been shooting back

much less who has been doing the shooting. we are hearing classrooms, but i can't see them. i can't even calm be on the streets right now. as you know, we being forced in until in into my hotel to try to give you this revolting. so that'd be very careful about that. oh, we really, you know, is it, this is a very large grade and it does call into question things like the security cooperation agreement. now just give you a little bit of background on that that came about post the oldest living 1993. the piece of gold that was fine, that was supposed to bring about a palestinian state. the idea that these were going to be building blocks, not just security coordination, but business taxes, revenues coming in cooperation in 90. uh, this is all agreed in 1993. obviously it was supposedly so these were just simply building blocks, but over the years, um, you know, these are, these are the whole settlements and the occupied west by which are legal on the

inside are so little polished thing, you know, power. she has become much more weak then as before and the security corporation agreement most, i'm really still telling you me in fact i would most palestinians will tell you the benefits fees, right? use more than it does the palestinians effectively. and this is the way famously um, it was described on television um by a soft forgetting his name right now. the what he said was we are the only people uh do all occupied. i have to give the occupies the guarantee of occupation. and it's a very famous thing uh, unfortunate, i can't remember the name of the politician that said it, but that is how people see the security cooperation agreement in itself. that is basically allowing the occupation to happen in the power steering is a part of it. um, so the says, you know, the, all of these building blocks has now completely changed and the is like palestine

insight. and as you mentioned earlier, how are you, you know, the was coming out these ready, paul. i mean, the connect said live coming to for the little cabinet is that there will be no palestinian state and nothing. you know, he seems to be very clear on that. so this is now about, certainly for the palestinians is you know, what happens next day. and this rate is going to, you know, it's going to wake a lot of people up, you know, just because this is always, but because of, you know, how big it is, is going to be a wake up call a problem many policy and presentations. you all going off the exact same question that you just ask about, you know, what's the, what, so the security corporation agreement. all right, and runs on the increment of thank you very much for now. and i know you'll be keeping across developments that for us as the morning goes on, we're going to bring back in raw me, hillary now from boston, distinguished public policy fellow at the american university of a route. thanks for staying with us. i'm sure you're listening that to what and ron

was reporting, we need to emphasize again the limitations of our reports. and given that he is a constraint that in that hotel room, but what we can say is that we have and he has heard extensive small arms fire and this sizable explosion just in the last few minutes. and all of this happening in the center of romano. what, what does that tell you from hillary as well? it tells me that this is another class using military force between one of the most heavily armed and well trained and technologically advanced armies in that whole world. oh, facing small bands of a young man, a neighborhood groups and get together and create these forms of resistance groups. they call them and they're not to shoot for well trained or not . and they don't have

a significant intelligence capabilities. technological capabilities barrier to mentally stops because most of the serious military resistance groups that exist to them, there was facts of already been taken apart by these real. these are the people who have been jailed, but these small groups spring up organically. this is what's been going on now for really about 2 years or so 2 or 3 years kind of it's picked up pace. and the last uh, in the last year there they try to coordinate amongst each other, which is not easy to do because there's hundreds of road box is really love watching us back. so physically getting from one place to another. it's not that that easy. so these are very localized laws, the neighborhood type resistance groups, and they can take on these really only they know that. so they try to avoid serious head um military clashes. that thing,

if they can set up an explosive device somewhere or they have maybe a sniper somewhere, the shooting is really soldier which is allowed in international law. you can fight against different military hosted fire. they will try to do that. but there's this limited what they can do. and i think one of the things that we have to keep in mind and about this kind of action is that it has symbolic value and emotional value and political value. as much as it has military value. the simple fact that people still resisting and willing to die because, you know, dying of fighting for your country is more attractive to some people living in a while or, or in a meeting or in the prison, or be tortured or not being able to live a normal life at all, and this is the west bank as well as where you have to find food and water in the

west bank. the basic daily life has been go home almost normally in many cases except for travel, which is not really easy. but these are, these are groups that are putting up a resistance fights to, to make it make a point to these designers that we will not roll over and acquiescing our own and visibility and our own lack of unity that we exist. we have rights, we will struggle and this is something that has been going on for since the beginning of human kind, the is really don't seem to get this and therefore they keep going in with the range. the range of this kind of big grades is design partly also to intimidate people to scare them. but it doesn't achieve the goal very well because they've been doing this for years, especially the other places they've done in the destroyed half of these accounts.

and they're dumb, terrible saying you chose people in jail and dozens and dozens of people. and it doesn't deter the other people, the younger people. and one of the things about these groups, by the way, any milton brew, this is the same with the, of games in the inner cities in western countries or militant groups. so i'm a group, so thoughtful for militant groups and advertising, at least a lot of them are attending base, their families, the people who know each other of their neighbors. they their students together in the classrooms and the some of the like more stuff where you can just go and say, i want to join this room. these are people who have to trust each other, so as to stay alive. and then they have to figure out what can they do in pursuing their resistance. i thought it was probably the only korean, so i'm going to have to interrupt you what we just hearing from our correspondent

in run. again, i'm thank you very much for that analysis, but in run con, in ramallah, we're hearing that you have more for us there's, there's be more going on. i will be speaking to armies hurry to. yeah, that's absolutely right. i've managed to actually find out some more information on the incredibly loud explosion that we heard. it's not a drawing strike, this is a explosion if i use it as slaves have been used to play the tools on exchange or money exchange place uh these right, these are all now rating we're hearing that it might be called the a money exchange replaced. so this is what the target seems to be. now in the policies radius of the cues, militant groups, resistance groups, all funnelling money into places by these money. ready exchange places, but also these places are used by ordinary palestinians when they travel into you're looking for example, and they need to know some you know,

they need to get dollars if they go. ready somewhere else, it's just part and parcel of the day, the life of every single city on the planet spot right now in the middle of that does seem to be the focus of the target. we have heard that they go into other money exchange spaces and confiscated records, which would suggest that this is why they blew the doors off by prophecy. which created quite a loud explosion of what we heard. things were taking place um, all about hot from either way. is the craigslist where i am. um, there also is really don't much straight. they've got to be complete. full, 3 entrances to the street. uh, there are large amounts of soldiers. i think still count about 6 vehicles. um, so this seems to be where the staging placed is. uh for this raid into the center of ramallah. it is ongoing, this rate began at 1 o'clock. it's now 90 4 o'clock in the morning so it's about 4

hours and so just just to confirm that that was some kind of controlled explosion, or at least the destination planted. we believe biased ready soldiers out of money exchange. yes that's um the details i have right now is certainly a commercial property um. ready i guess i will call and get out on the streets to confirm all of this um, with our own eyes, but that's what we're hearing. and that's what with, with, with hearing from people that we have been speaking to do or close to, to where that raid was taking place. but it does seem to be that the money exchange exchange places all the focus of this rate right now. and the loud explosion that we heard was that these are these ponding above and below and open the doors of commercial property. now, a, like i say, probably going to try and get at least reco those patient tv. because these are,

these have accused resistance groups within the occupied westbank of using those money exchange places to follow the finances in. indeed, and before that you were reporting on uh, on live fire as well. um, so that does suggest potentially there was some, some kind of confrontation going on with that in the, in the same area as far as it gets out. well, the class has that been taken place that had the exchange if i were in the same area, but that was on the street, the rounding it as wells unclear as to who was the shooting. we know the these, right? these have used large files before. in fact, i've seen the big on the being pointed in my direction. what uh, just uh, the so, you know, they know that it's a tactic, but they do use us and we should probably as well just refer to the fact that we've, we've had live pictures and similar sorts of sounds, at least in terms of a small arms fire in janine,

i'm the sort of uptick in kind of sit in on groups activities and is ready raids along with, with secular violence as well. that pre dates, october the 7th. and janine has been a central focal point for a loss of that. why, why janine such a sort of regular size of the sorts of confrontations as well? quite simply it's um, one of the heart of the resistance. the occupation has long been considered a place of studies. riley certainly went on palestinian gunman uh, based jeanine refugee camp in particular. um, uh, you know, when you go to that company i was at oshea. i was a good um, when you see the graveyards of the people who do see the grapes, things with bitches of arms. but now remember the palestinian, the names that i shall do have a right to resist occupation. so what are they doing?

technically, an international is a legal, however, when you have guns, other people are going to point guns at you and this is, you know, that's what the resistance actually looks like. but even engineering refugee camp are these, right. these have dropped the leaflets warning, the residence that the, the government have to give up, or they're going to turn it into a many goals. and now we've seen those leaflets and other pos they'll be occupied westbank with these, right? these have dropped. ready basic, correct. um certainly is something that seemingly uh these right. easy one to you know, make sure that people are aware of that. if they don't give up these gunmen, if they don't have both these guns with house, then they simply going to turn it into a meaning garza so that's currently why i think, you know, jeanine is the homeland of the resistance. we've been up. finally,

the center of grandma is not so whether you can justify a rate of this size against money, little, uh, money exchanging shots that something that will, you know, in the, in the coming days that will be discussed a lot. oh, so what are you going to get from these money exchange places the? i mean, if they simply coming in just taking reco, it's already 5. people have been injured. you know, what is looks like the cost while you hit, how many people need to die? how many people need to get injured? you to pick up paperwork so, so how soon is there no fight westbank watching the images coming out of gaza? i mean, you, you, you mentioned that this idea of, of least letting parts of jeanine refugee time and making those sorts of threats to policy is watching those images and also experiencing this. i mean, for so long the westbank given the fact that that has been a violence there an increasing amount of violence in the last couple of years. it

has felt very different from gaza. people that sort of seeing this as part of a kind of a unified military operation. what level of concern is that in terms of what's to come for the occupied westbank as well? the concern has changed immediately on october 7th, october april type of 9 twin palestinians in the occupied west by were watching what was going on in gaza. that's the thing that they would say to each other. the thing that they would say to me to all correspondence here is you know, the occupied will expand his next, and that was always a fit. and as these rates of ramp top in the last a few days, i think we're looking at a few one days currently right now. since the will began, and people are describing this as a you know, a debt by a 1000 coats, a slow moving into the occupied west. bank of slo

escalation body is radius $42.00 raids a night taking place. um 300 and something in 305 palestinians have been killed since october 7th. you know, the figures do pale in comparison to god the bucks. yeah, this is, um i was the policies afraid of the ones garza has been dealt with in whatever way that shakes out to be that the west pine is next and they so what we're witnessing right now in front of in front of where i'm coming from standing is simply a pre test to the next phase of is rose. will us and what about the politics? i mean, the idea for so long and so long postponed and creating had a more despair of another happening. but the idea that that could be some kind of negotiated settlement resulting in a 2 state solution. and we've seen obviously the response bias rail to that

i'm us attack on october the 7th. we have seen these ready prime minister as part of his political response accompanying the ministry one really coming out and ending all doubts as to where he stands on the possibility of a power city and state that the lack of a political arising is a so long been used to explain the, the rising levels of violence in the occupied westbank, it based on the palestinian side of where the people see things going. now. i mean it's, there's just in sort of undescribable violence in gaza and increasing military presence and imagery violence. and the occupied westbank as well. what do people think is coming next? i mean, you're talking about a very clear, very of the disconnect between what the americans have said, which is a one,

a 2 state solution. they don't want any displacement of palestinians with any garza itself. they want these raised to rain and the settlers who regularly attack published in the occupied west bank and they do want a 2 state solution. they've said all of this, but that does not kindly with the what i was, things will tell you in the occupied westbank to simply look at the sheer amount of is where a settlement i've been built since 1993. and there's also codes that were supposed to bring about a power steering stage. um they look at the militarization, the, the, the occupation of the west bank data and see how a 2 state solution is feasible. it's the official policy of the palestinian authority and the payload to negotiate a 2 state solution, but on the ground to no one believes that that's really possible. and no one really

believes that the americans have the kind of leeway, the kind of swayed over the, is raise the perhaps even the americans, both of those might have a prime minister benjamin netanyahu, as you say, absolutely clear, not interesting. it's a 2 state solution to what does that mean on the ground? it's going to mean a pol sites and it's going to me, increased occupation. those are the only 2 words that you can really use when you're looking at what's going on in the occupied worst banquets to get about what's going on in gaza. uh you know what that looks like the day off the how much as i progress to benjamin that young girl that publish things have been very different way of describing it. they call it the day off the genocide. and what is the posting authority on the mountain? one of us stand on the level and the tempo is ready, operations, the sorts of raise that the level of violence and arrests, it'd been happening. and what can i do about it?

all they can do about it is very little um, but the condemnations do come out. um, every time there is a raid, the policy is always the release of the claim and condemning the the rate um the person in prison or to update us on how many people have been arrested. again, the posting request and tells us how many people have died. none of that changes anything. these rates taking place and, you know, and it's, it's an incredible figured, i mean, came out a couple of days ago. but $42.00 rate a day. i keep saying this, cuz i, you know, i'm probably assessing than the number myself. that's a huge number of rates that are happening on a nightly basis in the occupied west by 42. i mean, drunk that interview, that the, the territory between the river and the c. uh, the, isn't that big and, you know, the occupied territories force you to right just a day is a huge amount of res taking place. so turn them nation,

but that's all the palestinian authority can do a comp sending troops, they count defending these places and that's why you have those on resistance groups right and wrong. tons, thank you so that please do stay with us because we're taking over right now to to g m t on thursday and we are staying with a live coverage of this breaking news. these very extensive, wide ranging large scale is really military rates across the occupied westbank. they extend from jeanine in the north to hebron in the south. and a lot of our focus has been on what's been going on with him or on con is in ramallah. these live pictures of is very busy vehicles, which would be nice to some 3 hours now. and tomorrow has been bringing us reporting of a small arms via confrontations and a very large explosion as well just in the last 20 minutes or so.