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hit pretty badly by check us. there has to be serious computations on a weekly basis with detailed coverage. this policy is making like so miserable for the palestinians that they eventually leave is effectively forcible transfer. and that's a little crime and fearless gen and isn't. it's totally dark. we're using our own life. this is the only way that they have life and can cook food. i guess the supreme court scraps a lifetime found on politicians with convictions from holding office. that's welcome, useful. former private us of knowledge shut east, who cannot run again, but not for jailed formerly to him wrong. com. why? and what's behind this really? this is inside story, the
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hello welcome to the program. i'm a very instead of getting a started this week, a conviction with the person out from politics for life and practiced on the bus after the supreme court ruling on monday. not anymore. it's good news for politicians like full, the prime minister knowledge shelby's, but not so good for another full the premier iran calm who's currently in jail. the really only helps those who are banned for life like sharif. he's now free to run again and elections next month, and for a full time is private. his stuff, as calm, has been bought from office by the quotes for 5 years of not for life, it doesn't apply for him. so why is this reading been made now of how big of the political implications will be asking those questions from, i guess just a few moments, but 1st this report on the court decision from the, from a website after weeks of deliberation, fuck you sense highest quote. test script a lifetime, ben and politicians with convictions contesting the elections. that really makes it
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possible for the former prime minister. now usher, reese to take part in the polls for the full time and elections. june, february his party. the bike is the most levandique now was, is considered the most likely to win his biggest rival, full metric a to you. and prime minister in run con is sidelined from the upcoming elections. that's of the day he was banned from politics in pakistan for 5 years following his arrest on option charges that he denies both sharif and kind of have blame to the military for austin, them from power, leading up to his arrest and cut down on his party the to vicki and stuff kind of had publicly criticized army does at a party, riley in 2022. and she always has accused the ability of orchestrating his removal in 2017 over his economic policies and move to improve relations with neighboring india. the military has denied it builds that level of political influence, but gets done faces a deepening economic crisis with accelerating job losses. so ringing station and
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high energy prices. according to its to, to 6 bureau inflation rose by nearly 30 percent in december. the country has received a beta package from the i m s, but that forced it to implement strict will stare t measures. whoever is detect the next prime minister faces an appeal betsel to improve the lives of more than 240000000 people. many of them already struggling with poverty while i have them, what zip it out to 0 for inside story. so let's bring it, i guess for today's discussion, from as long about what joined to buy it. ralph house on the central information secretary of the wrong kinds of political policy focused on jeffrey in stuff in karachi, the capital of sin providence, which went by mohammed's about who ma, he's the province's former governor, representing number shapes, political policy, blackstone muslim league, and also in his mom about we have michelle website, the,
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the founding part of the advisory services from top of the lab at a full, the advise of the pakistan's ministry of foreign affairs. thank you all for joining us, ro flip stop. what do you, what do you make of this decision by the supreme court? the outcome of the decision has political implications. but why now just a month ahead of the election. so thank you. uh, you know, the whole time bakers has got me so it did not come as a surprise to us. this is part of the logic conspiracy and all that to uh, started with the, you know, sort of a bad time coming back in april, but not within 40 watts. and since then and things have been moving it all in the direction. uh, that'd be rejected. they, well, this is a whole lot of uh, of what be generated, but 1st along the lines uh, the, the stopper sprint. and now i should, he had started on funding at all when the government funding around con, stomach was supposed to go. and then he'd been gone to taking the subsequent
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specialist and will go unable to have to come back to block of stone and then take part in the, in the next election. so as to be blanket as the, as the king. unfortunately, the institutions of the country have been completely liquidated, have back, but what really, they don't exist any longer at this juncture by the door. uh, we have 5 guns, the center and the pull problems on these pull problem because all of these governments are and wants to do something really good because they have to be on the mann district theater to 90 days. and actually the thought that has, in spite of the constitution, stipulations of or above that, that constitution has been, has been, has been, you know, the best time and time again, the institution of the state as uh, as paid any each go to stipulation is content that so we're not surprised, you know, and at this juncture, just commented at this juncture, uh, because uh, it's important to know to bring it in. uh does that, does work be reached at like the ben stated, uh, the uh, in the,
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in the process. i must say, uh that the goal technically has been off the scene here in the country for a long time to come up to the fact to know that device for you guys. uh, do take this country, you know, it was a, is a program directly and nobody had any doubts about it. why the case was supposed to turn it off a about 5 by 678 years ago he was not able to provide any proof of income that he attended you to take your daughter. what would it be there to fall almost 2 decades. okay. and it was on the basis of basketball, that was he was, he was, he was best buy. what? well that does this in the next no rush. i just, i just picked up a menu offer very quick quickly. uh, 5 day, 6 days. uh all these days has happened. didn't know i need to speak to. dave bought the direction that this was a toddler, steve, just some fortunate. okay. all right. well how much is about? oh my, you had that the accusation but no actually flew to the country. how will voters, in fact, us down view, the supreme court ruling actually there are 2 things. button is uh
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uh, the hooting it says deal reset link that says and this device he was disqualified for the night. that was in 2017. and i'm feeling deep drummed up jobs. i think this of wrote but if he had to go on to the ruling, it was not based on any brand drink of money. this very important never. it was said, it is based on the bench and the money. it was sort of very, very, it's a simple lot to have it bought it. i'm sorry to interrupt. i mean, if you're saying that the charges against no is shenice what trump top and then surely the charges against him. wrong connor also trump top. ok. so let me finish about this in advice about this particular decision of this being bored when he was just going to fight for. like if you read the 0 must have read that with a, it's a b, c is that there was a c, but from his son sam 3, which bits of no, i see him famed to disclose in his or does best. it does not. this is
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a game and you can imagine any way to what it will not even invite to an account and delete the mode and hit the button. when is the 3 time brian? when is the was leaking? because do cindy elected? and who enjoyed the majority in the bottom and was thrown out for life and that he cannot do any uh, but it takes the cool things about it. first, the disqualification it says staples on trumped up charges. the 2nd thing is no one in bucks. an elite for this thing that any but addition, but it is missing a lot on the model, should be disqualified for the night and it's not just missing the y c. who will benefit out of this position. it is also mr. john, give it to the who was a very close it or very close. a politician in the, by the open sitting wrong side was altered, is going to fight for the night. so he also benefits. he gets another party today. so he also benefits, and this was never something that anyone in boxes then take the and you must also
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go to the box on the details of his the red. but it just got the 1st cause. now, many of the decisions that the boards that they come in the past several decades know are being the buzz, including the decision to hang the former prime and services are regarding the book book is being heard. what be 45 years. okay. after he was, because everyone wants that just it shouldn't be done even if it does extend it. that thing was wrong. all right, but a shot of i'll call come to just about that. i'll just want to give a rise of reply. that's at the roof that very quickly ro why do you want to work above what the jasmine have said basically, you know, just talk to the ice. so for example, i sent these days that the fact is on the last that you take this country under this country all at once, but it to, to has 3 states. and by boat is an established strategy. why is it that he was not able to do anything before the court for, for the 1000000000 to know that he has biases, but he was not able to produce any,
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any proof before the board for the properties lavish properties that he has a purchase order for the work, why is it that he was not it was approved by is it that you submitted a fig? like i thought the letter by has that he got the fund the used up fig. uh, uh. can it be font uh before and they they do we do they like it was produced in the quote at all, kind of going to be funny, but it was up on it. but so if you do single boxes, all these facts it, there needs to be bought. uh, any, anything. i mean, anybody wants to cancel the defendant has been good or no because he is doing it at the cost of just different. it's got 3 more shots. it's just a mess up, sorry to keep you waiting. we will get to you in a moment, but i would just just come back quickly on that. i actually said investing service the roof is uh, obviously uh, dealing does. uh why mister, i know why she was punished with all the weight to the accident reality he was, but this you will just qualify for life simply on the basis of it. and if i'm wrong, there's so much of that he can correct it or otherwise he was button is
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disqualified for the night because he did not show that one is been holding that he did not show her to see you. but she from an accounting standpoint, but i just didn't, but he was never supposed to reflect as an individual, as a z u, but. and he was there display 1st the, the nature of the management, the nature of the car, and it was listed. and then the, the, the, the, the punishment itself to buy someone for life spring. all right. if you cannot do politics to have a, okay, the shut off, i'm sorry to keep you waiting. i have no, a shelby's been treated unfairly by the quotes in pakistan. was he the victim of a miscarriage of justice to, to what extent was the supreme court racing and injustice? yeah. and if so, what about the treatment of inborn con, how, how did people view his treatment? look at it, regardless of how many times us partisans of one or the other party a, in this country. the answers are always going to be the same. the supporters of
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nevada cities will rightly feel vindicated by the correcting of what is the entire process, was deeply biased and prejudiced against any chance of nevada cities being able to govern the country that he was elected to govern in 2013. and these games didn't begin with the, with the court case that emerge from the panama leaks these games begun. the day he was elected and there was a whole, uh, a whole sort of a massive uh, sort of readings of evidence that indicates that the construct so you to get rid of nevada city. but you know, 3 days the panama. so this court case, you know, happened to be kind of the end zone for the sort of a, a process that began much earlier. similarly, the process to get rid of him wrong, fine began the moment the military, the very military that brought them around,
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assigned to power, decided that it didn't want to concede the rightful powers of the prime minister to the prime minister and wanted to retain a key decision making around the key appointments and around key relationships that block us on as within the domain of the military. ultimately, the, to my mind when i listen to and both these men are really in sons of boxed on whether it's ro pass on or is a bad omen. and they've tried to serve boxed on over many years through different sort of ways. and obviously they've chosen different political parties to try and build up this country. but just to remind viewers what this country is, this is one of the 2 countries on the planet that still has the polio virus that it's fighting. this is a country of 250000000 people with a median age of 23,
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in which the debate we're having today is about whether a 74 year old is guilty or innocent, or 71 year old is guilty or innocent. meanwhile, the median 23 year old buck a stunning woman or man, are up the creek without any prospect for serious economic growth in the near future. with an almost certain debt crisis that is hanging over the heads of every decision maker in this country with a massive security crisis, he will not only by the thought of bonds, desire to expand its influence beyond the borders of upon his bond. but also the hindus supremacist and hate mongering. in regime in india, that has been on a mission to punish bucket spawn for existing. this is the scenario within which the box hispanic people are subjected to political contests between a 74 year old and a $71.00. year old, neither of whom have any real answer from august on both of whom are the product of
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the military's interventions in bucks, tons, politics. so what, what you're saying the shut off is that the bucket stands political system is, is failing. it's people. how do you fix that though? while i think the starting point is that politicians need to be able to run for office without the fear of knowing that they will eventually be facing a j del term. i think as long as this kind of antagonism between popular leaders and the military establishment continues, we'll continue to have the cycle it, it shouldn't be lost on anyone. the irony of iran con, facing indictments in cases that are largely, broadly as bogus as the cases that in the city was 1st convicted for and then let go for. but i was, as you heard, chevy, 74 and bronchitis, 71. and the median age in pakistan is 23. it should be freely the mind that the
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electric one to put that face in to improve the loss of why comp practiced on off of the electorate candidates who have more in common with the countries demographics. well unfortunately i have never been in the election at buck stone that has been intervention from these 5 percent. and that has infected beast with a basset of time, particularly off to the exit of general the shuttle. um, if, if uh, you're not, you know, on single question and i'll just, i've just, just, just 11 thing to be done on the free expense and into selections. what equal level blank feed on. and see all the people of this country want to protect against the privacy. i tried that everybody was the boats. anybody other been involved? been show that fame fed and inclusive elections. i had been stuck and let the people decide. this is what the stats for and different fortunately,
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these being did i not just die, but the people at the factory well being increasing the doesn't been judged. i would like. i can go to the portal of evidence and i supported what i'm saying. but i do, i don't think the speed dials permit me to do that, but you wouldn't, you know, if people what, what did happen to the last couple of months? it's going to be an extension of people coming up. people have been having good. now people have been tortured, they have been forced to convert to critical loyalties or whatever, what 10000 people have to put in james. that being tonight, bins that are people in that group and what will happen for us to be pretty times but to go spend the rest it and some other kids said some of the go. okay. some of the this gets big in big and been again that again, that is to keep up with the rest of the rest of the times up to 70 times and bunch of are done on other people have been registered, multiple a growth. do you want to to come to the bank because we did type the ga us to say, could i just take a minute just the level being fetus being to that age. you're not allowed anybody
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to give it to you. this isn't up. you want uh, surfing on the surface of which is being presented to the body. so consequently, what i want to say is this be it's, it's beyond the space. they have already decided that, that, that the cheapest way to do the next time is perfect and free. and we think it's being done. some of the dates that beat the gods, b, b, b, administer should be part of that is very important that we develop the fair and possible mohammed is about what do you make of the before before i put another question to you, i mean, the 2 things the 1st is uh, what uh those uh is the binding is at the moment and there should be no disagreement to that. that box the needs of the bed and costs been election and inclusive election back to those everybody to the body including the box synthetic . and so i'll put this thing, gone back to for the box spring without any problem the debated box and today is very interesting. and what much of that said he was simply do is episode of the
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spot on the issues that people have boxed and not district going to see it or what do you want it to be a 25 year to work bucks that use the challenges with them just not a vote who is more could up and who has gone to a rougher thing. been missing the why should even this as a in but on the phone, the problems that box and physics today, a large meet you cannot make and switch in or doubled up in the native for example, lack of education level has, is them being drinking? what a very basic problems, the amount of boxes that it is under poverty line, is that good the. so the problem is that box, and this has to be as much, but unfortunately, the big in boston today is with a 2018 election was more clicked or the one that is coming up in 1550. it is going to be more picked. so it's going to be, it's not that the people did not have the fact that they would have what they,
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what was happening in 2018 and demanded in which they were brought into a box. they were fine with it. then nobody would look back to say that what is happening with, with that then building party bucks that most indeed the way it was uh, butchered in the way the thinking was done. a point, a phase of uh, changing bought it cuz ninety's that is a roofer. was mentioning then died of probates, of don't just on for example, one night the lawyer is of the dad, the holding party, then the link by the box. it must be the last was to his new party that was created when i it is that it's been going on with boxes. but guess i totally agree with the civil that i've sent me is not to spend bank in comparing whether 2018 was bed or buzz or i'll tell them. but the fluid is going to be because we need the fit been election to have that ability with everyone, including those st. bucksta. if, if not, why should these becomes pregnant as stuff of the 4th time of next month is,
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isn't gonna say out his, his is full time. how long will the people at the military give him to turn around the economy and improve the loss of people? if it, what would your advice be to him? i unplugged it today's to a box and has been very, very vague. no problem in this of his last 5 years. uh, typically use the facility and encourage the problem and it says actually on the door and did the move to get done unfortunately, but you couldn't make out any snort just going out. it's in to buy it and you got the cases that gives them the jamming and the references that goes around whether this is going to be a new in a box on this the but i don't know. i can see the problem is that box emphasis did this score this, but there is definitely going to be some fiction between various institutions in the box. the problem in this up is the would seem that he has to be elected on the basis of the mandate of the book a box. so it has given him any must decide based on those uh what, what he thinks is that i agree of that box that you move forward whether the
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military but give them enough space for the hold. so people demand that but then he look back and it's good to be a new bug sign. if that happens, we'll shut off a, you know, actually becomes pregnant as to next month is, is he the man to turn around the, the economy to improve the losses of pakistan's people and why this, this sense of perpetual crisis? this does impact us down what, what's different about pakistan, what it would seem that there is similar political systems in both india and bangladesh are able to deliver for the people are absolutely right. is not just india or bangladesh. you have a military dominated, uh, political uh, sort of situations or ecosystems like indonesia that has been going from strength to strength over the same to 2 decades. where boxed on has been going from strength
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to weakness and weakness to further weakness. you have countries like turkey that were complete basket cases economically, where the military was dominant, where capable political leaders inactive, a series of reforms that not only grew the economy, but also arrested control off matters that should be in the civilian hands, away from the military. and to civilians. so i guess the question that your viewers would have are that you've asked is, what is unique about the boxes under doesn't seem that this doesn't seem to happen . and i think part of the answer is the other incompetence of lack of imagination, of the political leadership itself. the reason these parties are not talking about education or human capital. the reason they're not talking about the impact of artificial intelligence on the uniquely seen critic islamic and muslim culture and buckets on the reason that people in this country and the political circles amongst the lead are not talking about tax reform. and instead,
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are constantly looking to secure flights to re, uh, the or to other dobby or to door to secure uh, the next uh, easy term loan from one of the gcc benefit doors at this country has had for many decades. there is a reason for that, and the reason is that these issues, the issues that really matter for the people have boxed on they don't have any answers for these issues. they don't have any thing tends within the political parties. these are not issues that page or bother, or drive or inform the day to day pain points off our key political parties and our, our biggest and most important political leaders. having said all this, where it is a responsibility for, to reading, nurturing a tolerating, sustaining, getting rid of, and then bringing back these very politicians lie. that responsibility lies on the
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military establishment that has consistently will sought and secured the best quality of political leader for this country shots, regardless then of who wins the election next month. do you fear that another period of martial law in progress not as is more or less than editable? and i don't think that the instrument of engagement for the military any longer needs to be martial law. i think that because of the incompetence of politicians and their lack of imagination, the military can very easily exercise total and complete control over key areas of the economy and diplomacy and policy that it wishes to. i think my complaints or, or my, my sort of mind pain point is that in doing so, it isn't, or it hasn't yet at least demonstrated the kind of quality or confidence that were justified people to say, you know, what, the politicians are incompetent, but hey,
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the military's got this, okay, now when it comes to national security, i just wanna make this one key point break. one of the drums are not good when it comes to national security, there is no army or, or military in the world that has been able to do what bucks on a military officers and soldiers do on a regular basis. so when they do their job, they do an amazing job. the problem is when they do the politicians job, they do about as good a job as the politicians. and that doesn't serve buckets topics very well. it all right, we've got about 30 seconds for each of the roof and habits about a, basically, i think what we, what, what we're shown, if we're saying there is, the pakistan will never succeed economically. politically, until the military is, is, is out of the picture, right? of what i would not like to about cost especially, but any big leader at this point time on i want on pga wants is big pocket sponsored kind of for once 3 bed and possibly next without any outside into that. it's
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a doing from the stop by that is easier said than done because the military has, by can, by convention has always been that they have to go to the box on for all this up to 60 is either directly or indirectly to get right to, to the account, so position and position to follow. and final thoughts please from about mohammed's about wilma or yeah, yeah, it's very simple. i think we all agree on the concepts in a box and handling solution every point. it can be the product to buy these $200.00, to establishing the constitutional, the same book, in which and that was supposed to have been supremacy. and reaches up a bit of control for the energy. and i think of the both of these other 2 to buy all institutions, including the military. i think that the albany would be the best going forward. thanks to all i guess, ralph house on the homicides about who my and my shut off is 80 and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again at any time by going to the web size of how does 0 dot com for further discussion. join us about facebook page at facebook
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