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the, regarding our role is the thought of trying our best to get your sausages afraid. this is something that's we've been doing from day one, even without seeing us. when we have seen the situation at all to 3, at each talk to having with somebody to weigh and we were demanding to release all the hostages. unfortunately things went to another direction and that didn't work out the way everyone wanted at the beginning. yet we have been very for assistance and committed to the process that led to the festivities. we are hoping for this process to you know, to, to continue for the us for us, some good results and entities that are still for them and to see what my message auto is to them that to, to them and to the thought of seeing. and even better, we all committed to put down this confidence to the needs the hostages has,
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honestly, i mean, it has to be and repeating the very persistent on making sure that all of us we all are watching towards that direction. when, whenever we are heading, disturbance, and noises here on that, he always says we shouldn't, can't about these, you know, a negative things. but as long as it's going to result with saving a single life, that's what the, what the task. and that's what i posted for from the beginning, and we'll continue study. you've been living with this crisis since soon after october 7 as a mediator following it the day to day with that is really most of the officials, a c i, director burns, and others want to ask you was somebody who was so close to with the question that was put to jeff, not the trace,
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the beginning of the rock for which is told. tell me how this ends in your mind as a mediator. what is the middle east look like in 5 years? if you're successful intermediation? well, it depends to what direction this mediation if we get to a situation where the water is ended and we go back to this in a previous status, which is the south side of the plaza and the west bank. no, but for, for the ticket. is it ocean and that agent remains as a hostage off of the, you know, some political dynamics happening here a little bit. then we are going to be in much war situation 5 years from now. and the situation we're not to that talks about happens in the 7th of october. there is another one that is a big deal to what will happen. and honestly,
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we don't see. ready like a positive prospect involved, but if we are going to cesar, so fortunately, we are going to ensure that after this, there is an international commitment for these photos that ocean for the 2 state solution is there is a clear path for the thought of standing as for their stated, then it wouldn't be much but of the fixture for all of us and much for that perspective. and that agent. and we are hoping to choose this path not to go with the previous, as you think around, would agree with that. it's around prophecies. who these says buy from us? whether it's a look i, i don't want to speak on behalf of any country yet. i am telling you that my position as the to for the our positions and decision for the position and
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that agent that we are getting for this as long as that agent and the policies are agreeing to this, that would be the best, a guarantor for, for the future process, we have questions now, david and i are receiving from the audience both here and virtually from thomas for a come us put out a statement in english, 2 weeks ago, justifying its october 7th attacks, notably, a call for a palestinian state, but failed to call for a 2 state solution. will you publicly call for mosse to probably accept a 2 state solution? well, actually owe a quarter for the 1st for the entire about a student differs to accept it to assist solution that's, that's our position and that's what we see the only way for, for us. so i'm looking at the next question, mr. prime minister. you've repeatedly said the cutter is a neutral mediator which has no leverage over the parties other than words yet it's
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been widely reported that for years the top leadership of, from us has lived in color. so how does that square with your claim of being a neutral mediator? do you really have no leverage over our over organization? who's top leaders live in your country and that comes from professor org country. when i think that this uh, the living and thought that was being order was like taking golf context. uh, i thought it has last for the ticket office now for almost 11 years. it happened with me for the court, the nation with the united states to establish communication channels and to be used in resolving the situation in that age. and this has managed a multiple of these conditions. these fires, fill out the years and solve and to be effective. we hosted funded on the ticket office that resulted to the agreements between us and finally bar. and that
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doesn't mean that a being van hosting them is, is, is a, is an advantage of that to batch. we have all of them kind of how is being, but it can be a very tight spelling denise, with, in a very close quarter. the nation would that it's would be, was bored with the other a boss to use that to the related to any conflict. so i, we don't see that this is a, as a point of leverage. we see this as a point, as a china and of communication batch we are using or was for good causes and a brief follow up. but i want to ask you whether the is really the most out there and tell it in service with what you've done. for me now for some years has been a reliable negotiating partner. when the activity that negotiation that we have a like accomplished whether it's on this conflict or was on the
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previous conflicts, was always happening to them. and we have seen that results actually that's, that's the best judge for we have a question that has been submitted anonymously. i want to read it though, because the question is about the collapsing situation in sit down with the category will to end the crisis over there. especially, what is the, excuse me, how to rebuild for, to, and the crisis over there, especially with kind of success before and off. what piece dogs and the ability of cutter to group best suited these parties? i asked for, so just coincidentally, i was there with, are you in, in bassett, or in the chat and side of the border at the cresting refugees and the toll, the civilian population and offer as it was when i was there in 2005 with the secretary state at the time probably surprised it is from griffith and largely ignored by the world. does carter have
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a role for them to see what's happening and issues on his health breaking for all of us? and we have seen the suffering that disadvantages people has been going school now for, for that last year. but its even going beyond that. i thought of right now specifically, i'm not saying any specific goal and what's happening is saddam yet there is a process and appears with that with solid. you and we are very supportive for the process in order to have to get them to an agreement between the fighting pharmacies and to, to long as it to a more like more than minutes. that's for the government of. so we're going to put down this, what i soon, i suppose i want to ask a question, my own and then turn to one from our audience. i've often visited a day here, base been gutter, which is one of the largest us military base overseas. you're
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a mediator between the us and the various forces like a moss and then others talk a little bit about your alliance with the united states and the bed that you're making on the united states by having that huge base there split. i see, i believe that that edition ship with the us has been odd, was strong. i'm in the service and, and items that we had those decades ago between the 2 countries. and it's not only on defense, security and region of security. it's going beyond that. it's on that all of a slowing economy partnership between the 2 countries, a huge investment process for us step further in the united states, a huge investments by american companies and i thought of and the energy sector of courses as a partnership that we are proud of and uh, american companies are working together very closely with us in video for the
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kitchen was 6 and that kind of diversity is being inputted and serving as a how for the region to we provide you with a us indication within that region. so the citizenship has been all. ready is very step of the very strong it's very institution and that's what savings on the better relationships. of course, when we see that we are helpful and we can provide a support for the us and to fund conflicts. we order was a, of course, look at this as, as in a portion of, to just to strengthening the bonds between our 2 countries. and i believe that this was something good for them to have a fall. she live in boston, i was such a united states, but also looked for united states. i live in boston, alexis, let me just for phrase this question from your shamal. how can the existing diplomatic and mediation he stepped up to get us from where we are,
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which is conflict, worsening conflict, to peace and stability? do we need an international conference? do we need a greater role for the un? what? what more can be done to bring this home as well? i think that's uh, that is an ongoing region i left for that slice. now together with some international, if possible, just in order to see what's that way for a i think that's part of us. we are very much kind of better to, to, to how to seize the fortune to, to your lifestyle and to put everything go on until i can to go to one of the, to a 2 state solution. and that piece for resolution in the entire region. just let us fix tournaments if we can put an end for this conflict that's being last thing for that kid. then tell you the face of very generally change. and anyone who would claim the offices that people of that age and all of the ones who are sent come to
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stand against. let me also add one of mine. we talked earlier about your concerns about an escalation at this point, given what happened in jordan and now the pledge from the present united states to retaliate. he's being pressured by center of graham and other critics to go directly to a route to retaliate inside around. or if he were to do that, says deterrence clearly has not worked. there been a 160 attacks. how would he be justified? what would be the impact if us strikes inside around. busy actually, we don't think cottage any attacks to happen 90 country in, in our region. and we believe the ones who are responsible for the tax to solve the ones who should be held accountable to. of course, we are recording for these condition to contain the situation as much as possible
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and we are hoping that this doesn't go and doesn't increase to that level. our region cannot just to avoid the modest condition and felt a better solution. and we have to focus on the main issue over the past and getting things back and restored and continental as this is going to be cute to the few as or other as conditions and aging. but do you think what these little issues have done it? there's some evidence that may have come from syria around the impacts malicious. they're what day and what the who these have done with the red sea. could any of that happen without around army number is even go beyond that wasn't directed by the machine. when i look, i would go back to the forty's was getting on these contexts, you know, sort of the ones who need to be held accountable for any misconduct or any attempt to undermine the fees and security. the agent, we are not in position to point, the thing goes on the sort of act like now,
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and i believe that for us, the key focus should be how we continue the situation. how we these kind of just how to try the rest of that issue. and not just the 3 symptoms. the final question is we get near the end of our a lot of times in the past there's been a lot of tension between your country cutter and the kingdom of saudi arabia. next door to you, how are relations today? then where do you think they're heading? well i think we are, we are in a very good shape, a solid the i thought of gc, see it and actually ship it. so it's not just so, you know, i thought that, you know, the election should start a can bond between all the countries. we all connected found that is a society is on auto body much connected it's, it's not something you know, a, to go to some,
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some difficulties from time to time. we understand best we are trying to deal with it in a wise manner on the to of, of coming to and to look, you know, for the future i, what are the issue with saw the ice now is very good, very strong. we all working together very closely when it comes to the conflict now and in that as well. and also on, on of item on a, on a, by $211.00. i think nichol impression between unplug it. i'm sorry, it has been imposing yellow in the past few years, and this is what we are focusing on how to make sure that the g c, c, and actually ship order was protected, the order was safe. and how to the, to the area of common interests between all of us in order to avoid any differences in the future. so thank you so much. on behalf of myself and busy news your hand course atlanta council here. well,
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for the s. davids so the ship, robert, i last talk with you with the uh uh, like all of us, i followed your efforts to mediate an end of this terrible, a hostage problem and the larger war with interest and appreciation. thank you so much for talking with me and andrea today and with the audience here. we're thank you. thank you very much. you've been watching. i'll just say that will be bringing you live coverage of questions that have been answered. defined color was prime minister shaking will come and i've been now dark when i'll find the who's in the us at the moment has been speaking at our meeting, hosted an event hosted by the atlantic cancel. think time he's been talking about regional de escalation. he's talking about the situation in guys as well as the relationship between the us and concert. he made a couple of points with regards to the negotiations to release captives, housing garza, he said the progress on talks was improving compared to a few weeks ago. you said that they had made good progress yesterday that was in uh,
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j negotiations that were health in progress between egypt and israel, the us and caught her to lay a foundation for way forwards in terms of and captives being held in gaza. interestingly, he also talked about saddam, he talked about the regional role, the culture of plays within the, the gulf community. but he also talked specifically about that, how contract sees its role as a mediator. he says, we don't see, talked about as a superpower. that can impose something on this of that party to bring them to that place where using a good offices to find solutions, find alternatives, and that's where it is, where a contact has an ability. now i'm joined by mike kind of uh from the us state department in washington dc. mike, this obviously follows amazing that was uh how to do exist almost fairly shortly before this atlantic council discussion was held with us secretary state anthony blinking and clearly that was part of
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a negotiating process. they had to contact that's made with regard to the situation in garza negotiations that are going on a yes indeed. well the guitar really did. there was a very cautious in terms of what he was talking about or what he would say on the question of the captives being held in guns of for example, he did say they had been a lot of progress on that. and as some precisely that issue that those talks took place in that paris with intelligence chief switch, the part of minnesota attended. he would be the secretary of state in the meeting in the course of the morning on those particular talks. so all of this may well be in to connect to the intelligence meeting, the talks with the secretary of states in the course of the day. the hope that the is movement in this particular process. but what the part of minutes to make clear as well is that what has been talked about to this date has to be taken to,
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i'm us. and then all the parties would have to agree to be arrangement for the release of the captives, but very significant that issue in terms of outlining cost as role in all of this. making very clear that cuts us serves as a mediate to as a bridge between parties. it does not have the power or indeed the wish to impose its will on any of the parties that is attempting to insist in what a the end they have. now this is a direct response to criticism by the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu way . he was. busy saying that kata is not doing enough to deal with a mass and these negotiations so much of great interest in terms of what type of the on the tiny was talking about in that meeting at the atlanta council. but very clearly what emerge from that is that role that cause of plays. it is one of mediation. it is one of bridging. it is not just to do with the current crisis, it's something that's been in place for decades. and it just something on which the
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us really lies very, very importantly. and one final point about this criticism off got uh, 4 hosting from us as residents in the country, always staying in the country as she's making very clear that this was done in arrangement with the united states in terms of keeping touch with all these players . i must, tyler bond. all of these factors are taken into account, remembering that this is in co operation as he put it with united states. so availed way to respond to constant criticism of content and its role in terms of its relationship with them us. and another interesting point, he responded to, to the question regarding the, the canning of 3 us soldiers and by buying a drawing strategy on the border of city of jordan, that happens less than 24 hours ago. and you said that the question has always been how the us is going to retaliate to the so you did say any possible use us
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retaliation over the attack. would have an impact on hostage talks, as he called them. and regional security clearly caught talk like many other countries in this region, very concerned again. and this includes leads to an escalation that wasn't seen as proportionate a. yes, indeed, making very clear his heart at this attack and the support for the united states in the suffering that incurred with the death of the american soldiers and the injury of so many. but it was a subtlety to his response on that particular issue. making quite clear that any us response against iran would serve to destabilize the region further. he did not directly rue loud. for example, a response against the actors who to prison physically carried out the attack, whether or not, and the wrong proxy as the us claims or whether they were some kind of into
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independent operation. this is something that he made clear as well. it has to be found out, but he was separating out action against state actors such as iran or non state actions against whatever kind of militia group single organization may have carried out this attacks and others very similar. the more than $160.00 attacks against us personnel in recent months. so once again, the subtlety and this approach to this is not a typical ruling out of a us response. is actually a pointing out that that response should not necessarily be aimed at a state because that would uh, further the stabilize the same situation, but not ruling out action against the actors who physically carried out via tech mark. thank you very much indeed. that's mike kind of talking to us from the us state department in washington dc. at least 2 people have been killed and an arrow striking a building in the city and capital damascus as several others have been wounded. the house was reportedly being used by evans revolutionary,
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god attack happens near the scene of another strength last month, around blamed israel for that attack which killed a senior member of his revolutionary don. as you guys says, there will be a very consequential response to that drone attack that killed 3 of its soldiers and injured dozens in jordan. president joe biden blamed a running and bank fighters by the white house on monday, added that the us does not seek a war with a run. these are the 1st american military fatalities in the region since as rose war on guys have begun, iran denies that it was behind the exact calling. the accusations, baseless american base hosts a small number of troops involved and anti iphone operations. the iraqi on groups boxed by a run have claimed responsibility for the attack based linux resistance and the right to release this video, which it says it shows the launch at the drawn that killed the us soldiers and
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a month sold as director of the attack initiative at chatham house, and he says that on groups in the region will probably continue that our tax on us interest a, as in frank, our group, it's as main sort of target. our main enemy has been the united states and especially since october 7th. and israel sort of the fight against israel and the region, it's looks and it has targeted as well, us interests and iraq already as targeted us interest and syria as well as in the most recent i yesterday attacks, alex killed 3 service people. americans, there was people, it's a tit for tat you've had for the last few months. american air strikes that have killed senior iranian commander senior has both left the managers as well as senior managers from this is dominic resistance in iraq. and in retaliation, these groups have also attacked american interests in american allies in the region . countries like iraq and syria is where and it was,
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it's fine to happen is where the rom and loving youth as well. i want to fight that happened. this is becoming the playground for what you know, people have been talking about in terms of escalation in the, in the middle east right now. so for those reasons, you know, i will continue this type of tit for type attacks. something i think that is consequential. however, is, this is the 1st time the several years, but american service people have been killed so they have casualties from direct fire and, and, and so this is concerning escalation to pack us on a and a runny and foreign ministers have agreed to expand cooperation around the top diplomat tossing, i'm in the lock and is in a slum a button to use tensions after recent across the board and strikes directions. violations focused on last the air waves and what it calls militant targets in the wrong area of this month. 2 days after, on launch attacks on its territory. come out hydra as releases from islam about but 1st of all, important la area is gone by both sides to de escalate and to improve relations
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between the 2 countries mall cooperation, unintelligent, shedding, validate, or military cooperation. and dealing with the common sense part one thing coming out, and that is of course the understanding that did our 3rd parties and was and trying to provoke a tension between that, ron and it's not my bod. and of course, the budget news i've been telling dave in the box started so that certain of grove village uh, are operating from it on here and get a data. and i've been getting the buckets that need, that the gesture done, richard responsible for our tacked on date in the and revolutionary guards inside at this don providence, inside the drawn, are not a have safe havens inside focus on so both sides saying that they will cooperate with each other that they will alter in on the economic cooperation trade between
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the 2 countries. and of course this, the collision also coming out because of the fact that the driver need a strategic ally of focused on and also a partner radiator on both sides to de escalate the buckets on a and get in for the administer. i also said that the rich, the new government bridge will be taking office shirt and why did any. and rather than and you said, did any and president, really, whether the soon as possible. i as far as thomas blocks, old major highways out of power as refusing to back down from protest. calling for better working conditions and less environmental regulation, a raft of concessions, and noticed by 5 minutes of fail to pacify the farmers. say it's clear their message is not getting through. so i'm going to be back in a couple of minutes with more on all the stories i'm your mattress and stay with us on ours is here. the,
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