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and to be telling him the truth. and so when the companies are not truthful and the regulators are lacks, in doing their jobs, people are put a risk and this is the end result, the standoff that's 1st in politics and northern ireland for 2 years is over pro protest you need is set to take the seats and the regional parliament where the biggest policy is shouldn't say in fox, it's go, is irish unity. so could that happen or will you k remain in fact, this is inside story. the hello and welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan, suspended by a boy called northern islands, power sharing part of the storm and the assembly is to resume business. it knocks
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the end of a 2 year impasse, the threatening to political stability. after a hard one piece, the region in the u. k. was formed to an island was partitioned by britain in 1921 and for decades was controlled by pro purchased unionist. that's all changed since the last elections. the largest policy is now sion fame, formerly the political wing of the aisle race that for a violent conflict from 1969 and seeking irish unity, tens of thousands of civilians were killed or injured in violence involving the british army, police, and several paramilitary groups. and international peace process. so the years bruce, a political several months of the aisle re dissolved in 2005. so how important is the resumption of politics in northern ireland while the region remain in the u. k . or could irish unity become a reality? we'll be discussing this in more in a few moments without guess, but 1st this report on how these events developed by image and came by
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a 2 year political stalemate ends in northern orland to democratic union. this policy would be dropping. it's boy quote of the northern ireland assembling it had pulled out of a new trading rules following the case withdrew from the european union under brooks. it, it said undermine northern islands position in the united kingdom. this package, i believe safeguards please, and the union will restore our place within the u. k. internal market. it will remove the checks for goods moving within the u. k. of remaining in northern ireland. the power sharing institution is central to the 1998 good friday agreement . ended 3 decades of violence in northern ireland from the 1970s viewed as one of the most prolonged complex in post school western europe at the time. the suspension of the assembly installment bel 1st effective public services. creating
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simply a difficulties, particularly in health and education. we're conscious that there is a huge amount of work to be done and that's at society has really suffered from the absence of governments over the last 2 years. we're almost 2 years away from the, the last assembly election, the assembly to nice it for the 1st time since elections 2 years ago. the highest number of seats one bush in fame, the political wing of the all right foot versus roof with the to use. the 1st time a policy seeking united ireland, one and the election in northern ireland under the good friday agreement, signed by all parties, the irish and purchase governments and underwritten by the u. s. and e. u. a referendum can be held. oh no, i was unity. but need to purchase government cool one. the restoration of the
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northern ireland assembly is triggering debate whether that cannot happen. pushing fame, irish unity is its number. one goal for pro purchase union is preventing that happening says image and came out to 0. the inside story, the that's bringing out guests for today's discussion that will joining us from belfast in northern ireland, dining morrison, and also proof only so as the national director of publicity. it's a shouldn't say that the 1980s is with us as just mock devin for an independent journalist offer on full model of an island political as an island correspondence, adeidra heating and professor of social policy at all state university of the full, a member of the irish council of state or board. welcome to you all done a let's start with your shouldn't feigns lead a mary, mary lou macdonald this week said that irish unity was now within touching distance as nationalism as dave finally come. well certainly that is the direction of travel
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. there's no doubt about that. have you looked at the car? the car and the last 20 years. most cases in the west of listed are controlled by shenfield. shenfield is the largest political party in the city of all the 2 years ago. we shall need to present a tomorrow, could become the 1st minister. 2 years ago sion fee and woman majority of face which tightens them to the position that was during the election campaign. and that's definitely been the leaders of the 2 mana union. as parties refused to step products on the all action that they would accept the results of the election that they would recognize michelle names rate to be 1st semester. and that's the reason why there's not so much suspicion problem. nice. well, some of the police and supporters about the status of the day you pay in regards to the protocol and the wins or framework document. was it a suspicion?
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the 2nd ram to be the real reason behind their refusal to take the stage and install what's for this reason that they did not want to set. that guy, they 1st metal start under a champagne republican, one 1st semester mark, given that to should things break through a storm, undoubtedly has both a symbolic and psychological significance. is that going to translate into irish unity anytime soon. but how can you have, shouldn't say there's most popular policy in the boat with a prospect of, of unification. in the near term. i was dying, morrison says it may point to a direction to travel, but i still think the trinity is go some way to go the situation and the way you go essentially, to big minority. you say there's a, a big a bind or a c a probably the british unit is see,
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want to remain called of the united kingdom and it being bind or actually a pro r naturalist. so you want to join with the public. ready and to one united on the balance of power. if the poll lower referendums, all these questions, the cold in the near future will be held by those who tend to see themselves as know aligned to the one a little bit on it to work on one the bread and butter politics to, to, on the comfortable and those protocols for every one of the as possible, and that's the same device. but in all these on the lives part is included in the night. and they say themselves, is it alliance between different parts of the community? yeah. and those people will have to be convinced started saying, no, just of the sort of a romantic notion of nationalism. but it would also be in that best interest and natural was best interest in terms of economic and so for realities entering, picking up on, on what mark was saying that tell us something about the demographics of northern
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island on, on whether that changing right now the demographics of the are changing and the last census for the 1st time we had a majority of the population, he described themselves as catholics or going into the catholic religion. so not as a huge change on something that has caused a lot of discussion, but it is important to say when are talk, but to not have, we're not just talking by 2 large blocks of people anymore. it's not you need us versus national. i was thinking about northern i, we know i think about it in terms of 3 minorities, so the union us nationalist and those people in the middle who are the non aligned, they have decided either way where they're both would be and if that to promoter code so we went down and maurice from quite rightly points to the rise of shouldn't be. and what it is important to say is that rise options in how coincide is with a server, or we would support for iris unification. that's a big house. and how big as opposed would suggest the data still sitting out
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arrived 35 percent? i'm so there is a job of work to be done by the good to your by union us. i'm national has to convince there was on the line people were their future wouldn't be bad or the issue around the clock. so storm it was, i think it's been so you need us realize that by staying or to vote government and refusing to participate in par shirt and they were actually sending out a message that northern ireland was dysfunctional, couldn't operate as part of the united kingdom and therefore, they were actually forming the future of the union that they professed to love. so they moved away from that position. and i told him 1st and foremost about making northern ireland work, making an attractive place to live and work in. i'm planning your future. denny stuart assembly then resumed his business on on saturday. tell us something about michelle o'neill, but you for us, but as to what, what's a, what's her background? and to what extent could, could her a send actually cement and orthodontist position in the u. k?
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simply by restoring confidence in the state as quote, as well uh, 1st name michelle layla, things that are far east far far was an i r a customer and we offer the next day the one oversight um, here's an example of all the sellers who died in the oversight of before that was elected as an m p for from out of central, with all of the electrostatic j. a. the iran was also the fight and its armed struggle and pile elbows up to shelby's father, who was an x ray, doesn't hurt when he can. but if you stood for election, he was elected to the local council and the dog. oh, cool. and during it, when he died, michelle stage, the battle action. and she said she was successfully elected liver. she became of the system to live martin mcguinness. that was the, the 1st most her and the assembly. she was i think she's also nestor of agriculture and most of health as well. so how. busy she is really missing, ok,
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they're anxious to me or take your lives by eval universally a graduate like myself a university. i went to prison as all cash, but you pronounce a new generation of i confident niceness and republicans thoughts and they the 2nd part of your question of this stereo. there shouldn't being present to the assembly and mix it work. surely that is only going to send that communion, but that also sort of respond to sort of the market directly. so the matter is the data that last week and the social, economic and political gifts for this artificial spit north of 6 countries facing called northern ireland. as always, right, as the 50 year history, the us controlled, mean, sorry, process. and so back to me in the late to give you an example when i 1st opened the
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center gate from west belfast when i will, the orange order, the book, you know, a setup is a, the engines make make no problems or were complex. they weren't charles was able to march on the fall showed by the time and we weren't able even to march into the city center to celebrate the nice little ships to copy all of us change ship remarkable changes, idle roller fee by which my community no longer feigns by which we have right. confidence so that for the glen to storm. uh as part of a process of reconciliation with you and have those conversations well so working with them showing them that they have nothing to fear from the national. ready begin giving you a along the way, of course it should have been yes. shouldn't been late for a long period and i suggest it's us thing been campaigning for irish independence.
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we do not accept a great guy, but there are, except to just say, will accept the tomorrow. but the british government posts at any rate to be here to, to our lives. so that's as an objective, as always, been by aspiration. meantime, we ought to accept certain realities. and the reality is, i believe the union with britain that you union was really on their main, incredibly, for racially a by a d u p. who refused to compromise. and the 1st compromises for total, it probably most doctors of may cost as a compromise with your opinion. they might have for the hardest part of the brackets. and the reason why we believe was because they wanted to see a border by boat between the north of islands of the center by the border which was with heavy mills res border. and then all the 3 to 400. ready but failed to see how the feel of the financial i'm a but i just want us to wait on hold for the pin in order for me. so it was 5
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o $112.00 manager jack of course we believe that they the the piece of the day and boiled for the harvest. okay. practice time was the for the border by holding. yeah . a mock i'm picking up on on, on the danny was, was saying that about briggs it in particular, i mean, forgetting your political allegiances. the people in northern ireland want to be part of the what would be the benefits to them? and um is unification. more or less inevitable, even if the people in the line don't, don't particularly want it right now. is it something that's going to happen eventually anyway? when we have the referendum, the old bronx, it is the george his people handles all that actually voted to stay within the european union. and that is probably because they will not smooth mindful to the sort of practical difficulties that we've experienced starting to be is the people
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in school the wiles. so this whole business of trying to on and have those difficulties as being in the context of try to us please recreate some of the balance which was pretty much easier to create when both are and i'm the k or the fall event because of the or the. ready isn't that what any of these particular bar to try? we'd be experiencing more reasonable, ineligible. i'm not sure whether the problem is necessarily inevitable. i mean, a documentary about 3 years ago, which march the $100.00 out of the 3 is the creation of the dogs. and we did an opinion poll is part of the program a most people both know that on and would still be in the u. k. by 2071. a majority of people. so i have mine left enjoyed, you know, i did on the board. 20 people. ready 86, those dates were just all the bases of 10 years old for the 125 years on the 100.
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the day that was just, i suppose, people's guessed about a but it's quite possible that we could to go with all night long. but there is a bit of a conundrum which is that the most stable unsuccessful load at all and is that not in volume? well, mean the people just feel the pushing the extra step on the right tools. you know it all, it is, but. ready all dentry, i mean feel free to pick up on, on what mocking and danny was saying the but what about people in the republic? did they want beautification could, could the, does the kind of problem the republic afford unification and would it lead to more instability if it happened? well, i think picking up a little market down, i have said, i don't know the united runs is inevitable, but i do know is to and she doesn't have to, but we will not stay stuff like this position of the we are changing. the biggest change of course, was the good friday agreement with the constitutional arrangements and for an
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orthodontic were largely settled. we would stay as part of the united kingdom until the majority of people wanted otherwise. really, it was breakfast that came along through the constitutional arrangement up in the air. and we didn't know where the pieces would fall. there were many, many warnings for people living at north and not about breakfast would be a bad idea, but they were no words to dance. that the stand chase village talked about. scam hungry, the pace that this was nonsense, but it wouldn't have any impact on the island. but of course we knew we were the only country in the u. k. the sure the land border with the so records it has really all set those people here and they were settled prior to that. and the other thing we've learned since breaks it is the idea of voting for change without knowing what that change would actually mean. it's not in a lot of people, if we block anything through those talks it, here's a better negotiation says that you don't take on the books that people want to know
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quite right, claim, avoid what it would mean for their health service. what does it mean for education, what it would mean for the economy of their children? those questions have yet to be answered. so i think regardless of lot of people say, there is a huge amount of work to be done to say this is what it would look like. we kind of address the questions that you and have a blessed have. i'm for people in the republic of ireland. there isn't a huge commer for re unifications. again, they want to know will go with it may. how much would it cost us? what would the implications be? because when we talk about borders and we've talked about borders and says someplace for the last 7 years, it is important to say that border as i'm the degree means that we're talking by the moment the tree leads are largely by trade and commerce of things that aren't really the business of day to day lines, whether or not things are checked of ports. what customs paper work will look like . borders are also a bind to identity. there also, but
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a motional that shoes where you feel attached to. those are important considerations and then also we're political borders, constitutional issues. so there are a whole raft of issues when we talk about taking away borders, easing borders or creating new borders. what we do, you know, from breaks it as if there is to be change people as an stable and want to say, what exactly does this name for me? what way your previous question about whether or not we wanted to leave the european union. i can say as an academic that's leaving, the european union has been disastrous. we want that wouldn't be disasters on the date. it is. it means that our young people, our students kind of travel freely across the european union under their house and the screen goes white. and that arises, realize there's more to the world in northern ireland that has been taken from us. we as researchers kind of have the same access to a you wind phones
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a you why research games looking up, innovation and health, for example, which is my research area. we could no longer be key parts of those research projects. they have been replaced by the british government, but by much inferior programs. and so there has been a significant loss to us in terms of leaving the european union. but we can tangibly stated a tiny, i mean, feel free to pick up on that. but i also want to ask you for being such a relatively small place and all that i, that still makes a lot of news headlines around the world. why is that the people the getting over the differences now or, or other tension still bubbling away under the surface as well. i mean, the lowest on struggle in western europe. but we 50 years before, by the end of that to negotiation. the based on, you know,
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a statement that has republicans of the republican store has been criminal and eventually they were forced to negotiate. but the republican leadership and of course, all of our prisoners were released from prison. the general, almost day after the free trade agreement, i think also perhaps a lot of interest on coffee regions around the word as because we borrowed from the piece process. and so it's, i think, a lexmark mcginnis also was involved in and, and then columbia. and, and, and the boss company and try it out and visited the middle east as well as spoken to boston, the representative. so probably people think that the, there is a pop way, use them as a company that's out. perfect. i've been, obviously, the problem is added to the we have a process for getting there, and i think that's why there's still a good degree of interest and out of the something that dirty did say the fact the monitors of almost all paying phones and the size of fire and the republican fire
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a show of vast majority in favor of irish, the unification of the file. the one of the dilemma is that is that went off, or even part of the compromise wanna new life style. so, or perhaps a new advice, no fly as a gesture towards that, you just try and make them a bit more call. people have said no, they are represented that aspect over which, which would indicate a degree, oh, nice of strong republican sentiment and the sites. and that is why shouldn't be of is critical of their installment. it has not invest the time. ready because as mentioned or need the papers to reduce the papers that we need, this demonstrated so that you know that i don't mix social economic, political so, so sorry to interrupt you david. time is against us. mark. but what does the resumption of a storm hunt assembly actually mean for the people of northern ireland? how has the suspension impacted upon people's lives?
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if at all, i mean, how significant is this? well, we have seen a deterioration of public. so this is very. ready ready we have some of the longest waiting lists for hospital, for actions or the whatever the case we have crumbling infrastructure. we have a public sector workers, it'd be. ready taking industrial action going on strike recently because they haven't been getting the kind of a paid settlements involved with inflation on that kind of bullets we'll be getting elsewhere in the u. k or elsewhere. and then so a financial um incentive for love to know something like $3300000.00 pounds will go a long way towards easing some of those difficult. ready to is whether this new government will deliver, i think, will be jobs to some extent to the will of a politicians who will be sharon tyrell, inside the shallow jail. and also to whether they can make one is still a rama on wheels. the system works, a system that was designed to do the good friday agreement was designed in order to
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make sure that all the costs of the community a bolt into it, you just by the section of a quite often it has been a bit of a rest of the full drives and style light of the store, whether the power sharing the executive since i so i think it's still going to be a quick case of the jewelry the apps on how well the know the power chair and the next few years i wanted to put that pointed to the dra, how is the volt system i set out and in the good friday agreement, the best way to govern northern ireland today, it's complicated, but is it efficient? does it work private? you can just call us yeah. tell us something about the storm and assembly itself, how it works and how much power it has as well as the best way to describe is we have a mandatory collection that ensures that majority of the majority are and some countertop . um, so that uh, the 2 largest parties are in par, are going to be sent in under the you pay. i'm not because we're moving away from the idea that one group can dominate another group. but that is incredibly complex
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and complicated. and there is a brian as well, of opinion, not that we must put for the system because actually be invariably find ourselves in gridlock where we cannot reach agreement on the serious public sector issues. i'm the, there is a we're a resignation in northern ireland, but we seem to be faced with a choice between no government or bob government. so i can assure you why people are cautiously off. domestics, the government is coming back. there are no party. she won't hear any shopping call the bottles being opens because people really do baltimore to say if you're looking at the report card for bar to both administrations for the last 25 years and would be, could do much bad. her. we happened to move forward and in the case, social policy areas of education. oh hello. i suppose we always have to be full. but if the parties actually truly want to share par, if the will is there,
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then they can find a way to do it. so there's a sort of the b, it's going on as dave in the system. do you blame the architecture that the good friday agreement ball roll or is it actually the does the individuals do not actually want to share a par on resent the position that they find themselves? and just going back to a point that was made earlier, this is sort of quickly as low as it was during the day. because if you look back at the, the status of the creation of this day, it was built for an in belt products. and to you and get us majority of there is nothing more comfortable with the change that has happened that michelle and a nationalist, an irish republican. nice that to, to talk in the store when the government was peter par for promises. okay. mark was literally about 30 seconds left. what will be the executives main priorities when it, when it returns to work? i think it will be ensuring that it's public. so this is our improved and firstly
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that will be by paying the public sector work as the money. is there any time that's going to be the 1st job? and then we might have some complications in relation to how this post breakfast and deal with. so we may have some challenges, but there's plenty really uh, this is going to be in the interest of the politicians just sold the guys to be lot of the bread bought of boxes, bread, butter, difficulty that we buys, okay. that we must end many thanks. indeed, to old dining morrison locked up in port and diedre heaton. and as always, thank you for watching. you can see the program again at any time by going to the websites of ours a 0 dot com for further discussion on this issue. join us on our facebook page, you'll find that at facebook dot com forward slash page right inside story out. of course, you can join the conversation on x. i handle that the inside story from the adrian fund again. and the team here in the we'll see you again, bye for now. the
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