the law firm scene investigator thought were doing it from space design to inform, most events on the spot. you want to compete at the olympic games. they come, stay, relax, see the well, from a different perspective. on elders here talk, hassan is about to hold another election. the opposition is complaining of unprecedented political refreshments. will the outcome make a difference this time and just how much influence is the army having an impact on the inside story? the how are there and welcome to the program. i'm a spouse, e. okay. how's pockets done for pass for general elections? there being overshadowed by concerns about spanish and political unrest from the

prime minister in wrong con is currently in jail. after being convicted on corruption charges his bond from the voters, his policy, it uses the government of utilizing a crackdown on its members. cons. rival and other former prime minister now is sharif, hasn't reconciled with the army generals, and the pay is set to win back. power con, blame, submit a tree for forcing him from office with help from the united states, and also raising questions about its role and practiced on politics. but whatever the outcome of despite the economy is in trouble with high used unemployment storing inflation as an external debt of more than a $120000000000.00. so how might this selection effect packet stones feature? well, we'll discuss all this and more in a few moments without guests, but fast this report. and in 5th, but also a glimmer of hope with parliamentary elections due in less than a week. pockets don is experiencing turbulent times. the government is acute of

carrying out a crack down, especially on the form of government policies, pocket stone to hurry inside a p t. i barely back up august. i never in the history of focused on the entire leadership of political parties currently either in deals or hiding the way they're trying to get out of the election. all is in the front of the public. we will appeal, but we still hope that they won't get justice. the p t, i's leader and full. the prime minister in raw com is in jail on more than a 100 charges that his support to say all politically motivated. his policy now faces the center right pockets, tom muslim league. that party took power off the con was forced out in 2022 off to fully out with pocket stones military and losing a new confidence vote. it's lita nevada. shareef is a 3 time full. the prime minister, who's been adults with the military for most of his career, but is now seen as having its support. $18000.00 candidates, a competing for seats in parliament, in the polls in less than a week. more than

a 120000000 people are eligible to cost the pilots making the country's democracy, one of the largest in the world. that had been the speculations in the past about the possibility of elections at times about the severity of the weather. sometimes about security. uh sometimes about even um it on the box on the skirmish that we experienced last month. but we have been consistent at the heart of the elections, tackling installation, generating jobs for young people and putting an end to growing political polarization. whoever wins space has a rough the challenges ahead for on the cut the treasure out to 0, the inside story. well that's not

bringing a guess in is all about we have red x ball toronto. she's the general secretary of the human rights being of the pockets on people's potty and seeing a sense of left. it's one of the 3 largest parties and pockets done. and the whole we have center says side ali is off on these a sentence fmr on cons. p t potty, he's also a barrister and a former cast, a federal minister at the law and justice. and also in his i'm about is debate rahman and use a journalist on the problem entry correspondence for the nation newspaper and website. welcome to old thanks for joining us on inside story. it was very busy time. i've been wondering about the, the atmosphere leading up to the elections and, and just how come painting has been going to have a let me ask you that to begin with by some accounts campaigning. this time around has been fairly new uses. thank you very much. just a, actually the selections. we have not seen any direction press the would be as yet for the remaining and above, out to control wish of the election. these,

this is actually uh, to put another election in buck is done. and every election, after every election, we are but that these are going to wish of the nixon in 1977 focused on people, spotty. they uh allegations all 3 kings. but there in 1998, there was a cruise acquisition off of old rigging. in 1990 it's, it wasn't making sure nobody begins again and i put it on the screen after that in 2013 dec plus very famous elections. what maneuvering in some of the net quasi john see that lead to sitting on a long list sitting in the pockets starting at 2013. there was a also uh there's a uh, audio system of the transmission system. well, for a pond in that system, so these what are the technical glitches in data elections that lead to

oh, i see the whole i'll position by the the, these are under wish, of eviction, but we have seen that so many things about the election. this election will be different from the, from the rest of the election. actually 2 factors are the 1st one is the independent by solution of or into independent candidates. second is uh, you can say no will be different. and 3rd, one is you can say that the female participation this in this election, so many of humans of females going to do 215200. once we get into some of that in, in just a minute. but you mention how controversial these elections have being regarded, obviously on the elections of, of have been controversial, but particularly this time around. we've been hearing projected from the pci potty, that has been a broad crack down on your candidates. so let me address this question then to, to only have your candidates and supports has been targeted,

i understand campaign materials, but also disappearing. there have been reports of that your logo has been banned. how has campaign been going for you? okay, thank you very much. v as p t i a we were those determined governments in uh, april 2022 m suspended and being dry at least i mean in at least 4 pieces in the supreme court. that'd be the present thing. yeah, it would be very mean trying to get to these elections finally, if they hadn't been given on the february, but for the full months. and even before that, the d. i had been talking to the business name that i need to ship. it should not be able to do campaign or what, cuz should not be able to reach the routes and the people who are they should for the purpose of election. and finally, simply because of the do any political parties in this thing as being taken away.

so if you look at the boss, get started off with that, i saw the main need to ship the piano and this became associate then many, although he does actually not even appear in person in the body volunteer to. but it's beyond know that the, the founding jim in the box, the amount of time and there are cases against him in convictions upon convictions . i mean a given against him in many cases in the manual. 15 days, the convictions had been given against him and he's been sentenced to almost 30 years in prison. uh then the uh on the board for the election to disrupt the, the um the,

the, the lease listed eventually the election commission on the back side of it as opposed to holding fee and credit elections. the 2 car simpler way. also, now without a symbol, that means that the parking cannot feed its candidates. so in the selection media is actually out of election lease because we don't have a lot of symbols and we don't have any candidates on our symbols. although we have no many get it age website, they want to different symbols. and eventually they to gone back into the form of the political 5 d, b i have they succeed. but right now there's confusion amounts of people who but there's so many people that they don't know where to. but let me ask you a little more about that out there because i think a lot of people might think, oh, it's just the logo. as long as people can understand that you all from the same policy, people could vote that way. but you mentioned the confusion there and i understand that electricity rates and parts of the country are only 14,

a 40 percent actually. so obviously the image actually has it as a huge, a huge power. can you tell us a little bit about how to parties been trying to deal with that and how they replaced the logo? how are you trying to bring people together? you see what uh in the country like boxes. um, we have um, a constitution be said that the political party is a fundamental that i know people do fall over to the body as a friend of mine who they also put into a new contest election. and they need to have a similar to the same, but it was taken away a few years ago and all of the positive within the parking lot condensed with the symbol of the man who this was being pulled and disappeared. said that it is, you know, the really proceeds dot that high. it is the symbol with which people that didn't if i were to the binding. so if you take away a particularly bulky, you are similar to the body. then you x the distance, i think

a lot of people in the parking lot know who do what what so let me bring in maria can be because i want to ask her about her experience and the apologies experience of campaigning. so far. we've been hearing about a crackdown on p t. i support is, has your experience of companion been and friends then so fond the selection? i thank you very much for inviting me to your so well. i won't agree with one of the finest when he calls these selections controversial. i think it's very interesting elections because we are just ignoring the fact that we have the population of 250000000 and out of 250000120 voters are being adjust it. so more than a half of the population is going to work. and this year in 2024, and out of 12428000000. there's 14000000 new or so i've been registered since 2018. so it's going to be very interesting collections because half of more

than half of the population is a young people. we must not forget. and also that the winters impact his son at this time. and we have just received 1st snow for in northern areas of fox, his son in cupboard book to cool, and also put the flow to sun. so we phone, we are being concerned about a turn out at this point. and as a political worker, if you ask me, chairman of my a bucket, some people, spotty, he stopped his skin been in november. so you know, since then we are being involved and being engaged in this process of running a campaign. and we start to do it from cupboard book to file. we went to brewer just on all the cities in a separate book too far below just on sun job. and now in saying we have received a huge amount of appreciation because i think politics is all about the

integrity experience. i'm the time i'm to be one of the young people of pakistan at this time. and they, i've been a bit of the social media media media and they are more of elevated about the vision politics, international politics because these are not the dark ages with we are being living now. so we can not figure out how is going to be and to respond to the tools, how the contestants are going to represent docusign. because i think at this point of the young people as they and the young people of both of them are very much excited because they understand democracy is very important for the practice on until and unless we are being uh, ignoring the fact that um you know, ignoring that, the electronics process must not take the place. i think it, we need to give a new to and the people who are going to take box for the 1st time. and they are not met the in the number of data fucked. the 1000000 and there's

a lot of issues that are very close to their haunts which we'll discuss. but just to be clear, have you faced any kind of restrictions settle on said when it comes to a campaigning and go potty? i know not at all. it's all right, because i think everybody has been given this chance of a to run to convince smoothly i'm sure rest of the bodies. they have been also running the campaign smoothly. one thing i would see here uh that, uh that was the decision of the election commission that um uh they didn't a lot of that. um the symbol of to be a. so i think good, that was the thing as a political work, and i must say it's very important because it has happened to us in the past as well because the boxes and people's party is the only party i think, in this region, which has the legacy office 6057 years, so in 50 and 70 is dying. we have gone through this little book per process many

times. so i do not forget because we have faced a huge restrictions and it's 70 since 1977 to eighty's and ninety's. and then we'll shut of time. so you know that that was, i think of part of the rules of the political system of design as well. so now we have come to this conclusion. actually, this hope of taking a bug in a process is very important. democracy is very important and a new hope is very important and we have video. ok that focused on people of foxes . somebody choose the getting the data i once legacy. i want to give it a moment the to respond to because i saw you, you smile at one of the things that maria said around how old parties have been fairly allowed to participate in the selection. i suspect you don't agree with that . yes, it's just a fact that the people's thought

b and b and then and all the other to the by using to be given a fee. but the only thing seen is not available to be. i mean, not the single that a since the boss for months, not a single many. uh, not even a small gathering of people i, a few days ago. we had it as an idea and then we'd have a conference within our head office in the has it only to stop by and been viewed about the meeting that people see. so they wouldn't even more of the meeting is saying are head office, how much, how have you been tackling that? because obviously i'm wrong. con is in prison. and, and we just had that from re about, about the huge, huge use folks that you were seeing in the selection. i understand that the policy has been been trying new methods to, to reach voters using things like a guy and took talk. yes, we have

a very good social media the and so we are using technology to reach the people. we are using technology to ensure that they know the waterfall and we're going to about hundreds of symbols of or boxed on that to be locked into a candidate. so if you bought an application then people can go and find out which particular candidate belongs to die and what is it symbol? nbc area? so we're trying the on the possible things that are out there available on the social media to try and educate the people in store that they get more. but in spite of all of these problems, what i'd like to say is that we are in a position right now the to actually can this be the election to our nominee candidate. even though we don't have a simple believe in the concept that and i the time is gone for the night. yeah. no one can stop it. well, let me um,

today is how popular that idea is at the moment, because i was looking at some of the opinion polling places, gallup poll has him on cons, approval raising. we're not going to be consistent despite all of the court cases and the convictions, as you say, he's just been handed down another 3 sentences just in the last week. do you think of a that that, that the court cases which the party is saying opposite cambridge debated has that actually been feeling more support for him before going to him? don khan. i would like to mention some comment about the debate. also, my colleagues, actually i don't think so our ability shouldn't be less than a less than a. there was actually uh, a bite bike the uh, uh, system port lost over the key decades, daycare planning you to the above. the control was see, they kept believing each other about the unknown hands. the spoiled?

yeah. any other part of the lives of the party on these blamed the party? now the, another phenomenon involved in the elections, in the political, the, you can see landscape that plus b, d i, d, d, i has come up in the different dimensions in the, you know, in the industry. we have seen that. i know, nowadays you can say i'm not inclined into fixing so many cases. basically he wasn't as to a 14 year uh imprisonment. didn't work cuz i sold my charge. but as a one thing is there that they convince being each other against each other in some of the constituencies, this thing really badly damaged them in the different constituencies. and i'll put it in part these, but the benefit of it i there, he mentioned that to 2 factors are very interesting and are differentiating the

selection from all the previous selections. first one is a about the turnout. yeah, man. and you'll see young people built on best in the cost in boards. beauman barge spends us. i even mention some of the features that looks like it's going to be a good a sports guy. he has the one all the 58. i did 50 in regards to the payment goes to uh, candidates 28 and national assembly assigned people, spotty as the 135 i left one in the nation to some people sign was gonna be the new one as the 128 and 13 in national assembly and human a legal political party has to be one, but the 9 uh about the tickets to the 29th. uh, can you do female candidates and forward into the national assembly. so this thing been may change about the i want to just sorry to interrupt you that i

want to focus a little bit on, on the leadership of, of the parties. because there's obviously been a lot of tools as well, despite the changes that we're seeing and in terms of use and, and the electorate and, and the women that might see more representation. there's obviously a huge contest going on between or not was to refund and and wrong cons. potties. and my understanding from that the life is polling is that the p. p. p. your policy, maria may end up as, as kingmaker and, and political pundits a search suggesting that now histories policy is the one who is going to win out. your lead done the politically, the of your policy, who's just that the 5 oversee has, has a lot to say to the youth. he's also said that he would find himself caught between and i'm causing it the devil and the deeper see if he was forced to choose between the p t. i and, and no history of scotty. do you have a sense of which way that's gonna go?

uh yes, um chapman beloved with us and that he actually, um he, i think the soon after the southern to myself has been up to my the maintenance import to his political studies started because um he was, he was a go um campus and for the party since 2008 and in 2000 and exactly, then he is back 2014. he started the inc. i'm interested in a body, but he finishes studies and he started competing for buck and people's bought body across buckets on in 2016 we started. we saw a witness starting his guardian from dish me by combining and going every um uh on the corner from the bush. me to get a good bit of the sound compact. hassan and you know, he became a member of national assembly in 2018, and in 2022, we witnessed him by serving as a, a foreign minister of focused on and he visited. and he did present dated focus on

in the different countries. um, so uh, you know, uh we can not see, doesn't have an experience or anything. then people said, i think it's not fed because he's young and he's a hook footer. um, as well, he was not soon about his experience that i've been talking about, which way you think his political leanings might lie if he was forced to choose? of course he comes from a very, a connect democratic family. his ideas as visions are very much that more than anybody else because he has seen this politics invested in his jeans and he has written as he has the eas being said to me because he had no choice did he is that to complete the vision of his beloved mother, who was a visionary leader, so i think he may even to choose a right spot. the good good because for the but prosper spock is done progressive

focused on this is our agenda. and he loved disclosure for the last few weeks. he's been talking about the main it agenda points which he has meant mentioned in the manifesto of back to some people body which sells actually from the story i do. i don't want you to get into into the campaigning aspect here. i do want to take it a bit of a step back and look at the border political landscape. so just taking a minute had this has an election in a state when no prime minister by my, by my recollection is actually ever finished that time. so, back in 2018, it was now a serif who is being convicted and being barred from running. now it's iran, con, they've essentially in lots we've been pointing this out. they've essentially swap their positions this time around. this is obviously a country with the military wells, a huge amount of influence. so let, let me ask you right now, who do you think gets to decide who runs the leaves?

uh, i thought i was good to finish my boss. uh, but i was talking to just do you see what i wanted to say last and last you have a question really. these are the last 4 b as an audit for elections and elections belongs with the people. when you are working, there is no question that you ever like to watch and no one can stop you. you're getting more people who we want be. so the issue is after the pony, what's the bullying takes place? the question that i is that uh will there be of domains which shouldn't be allowed to be found according to the people, or when we see another basic job as you see in the box history sometimes. so we are expecting to spend something different. and the reason why is expecting something different and they should not be able to know what can control that. is that more than 50 percent of the population is uh,

you know, under 24 bit you 60 is where i the listing who bought a very clear picture of who they want to hold for. and this time they want to work for b d i. there is no question in their mind is that it would they need, it needs to be and because we see that somebody is being victimized, the sympathy wanted also increasing the a. so what we expect them to be d as diploma and we are not going to have a compromise or pollution been able to bother you asked the question of other people's body wants to join the team and or any of the parking. let me say that we have decided that we will not be joining any relation. what we expect people to do is what for us as a competing majority funding so that we can get a 4th and agenda that box that needs as we believe that to get

a that agenda because it has to be some subject to it's not going to 0 that need to be mean really the very bottom, the leader. and we need more or less uses to stand behind on the box. i need to stand behind that, but going to be the only better because we can move forward. and therefore, we want, and we believe that this thing people haven't, won't be in power as a majority binding and must be with the really strong opposition from the to the bodies, which is a good them. okay. but well, why do sunday with the institution was standing behind us. we don't have any, any institution, we don't have any boxes with any particular bargaining set on the concept. but that is clearly a huge amount. it's taking the selection, and we'll certainly be watching divert here at altos air, a very, very closely indeed. but for now we'll leave it there. thank you to all of our guests marie, it's about to run it, finished aside olives,

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