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for us as the flight, when the fighting moved into their neighborhood. long as soon as it is the mount pleasant. uh, it was terrible to leave the house. we carried the kids left, the air conditioning on. i'm left with nothing but the clothes on our box. artillery shells landed narrow, straight bullets were flying everywhere. early in the conflict, the power military group took control of most of the capital, made reports that fast rape and killing many residents moved to stay for regions, often areas controls by the army. in dar 4 where the rapids support forces is accused of ethnic cleansing, have a 1000000 escaped to neighboring cad. another 1000000 have cross the border into south sedan, egypt and issue a po, bringing the total number of displays. so denise, to nearly 11000000, according to united nations figures, families often travel long distances by foot to reach safety, safety no single said i feed their families for 3 days to get to. they had an eaten
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and were in poor health. one woman collapsed during the journey and died. people who are physically and emotionally exhausted, with no official displacements caps and the shortage of 10. many people sleep out in the open access to food, clean water and health care is also difficult. back and hard to offer us as conditions are far from ideal, but at least her family is safe. for now any way, there is no sign. the conflict is going to end any time soon. meaning most of the news will likely be forced from their homes. he but morgan altered their heart to him. the power of the residents of voting, the triple parking charges for su. these in a referendum, city officials have been saying that the higher rates are needed as s u. v is cause more pollution. take up a lot of public space and endanger road safety. owners of cars weighing $1.00 tons or more will now be charged just over $19.00 per hour for parking in the city sense
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. but it's, you know, since about to bring it up in terms of finances, it would cost us around 200 year olds per day. i mean, i don't know the fees by heart, but that's extremely expensive. life costs a lot, children cost a lot. so it will just be too expensive because i think in the end we'll have to stop using our cars. but we need our cars to travel out of paris for holidays and weekends. 878 days and space and counting. that's the record breaking mission for a russian astronaut. all that kind of named co made a history after accumulating nearly 2 and a half years in the orbit. that breaks the previous record, also set by a russian 59 year old has been to the international space station 5 times. that's it for me. so then the next on alpha 0 is upfront, the ceiling, the sports like wrestling and boxing hit traditionally being of limits to women.
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when i, when a meets, the female athletes flashed into that place and the ring on out to xerox within a dozen countries have announced that they are cutting funds to enroll you into a agency for palestinians. so what impact will that have on the people in god less that question to the you in special rapid tour on the occupied palestinian territories. francesca ebony the 1st on january 26 united nations highest traditional body. the international court of justice rode on for visual measures in south africa's landmark genocide case against is while the ruling was hailed as a single wins for palestinians. many are questioning what practical implications this will have on the war. and what does this mean for israel will discuss it all with this with headliner, stop advertising bastards of united states to be so entering the bass and entering the thank you so much for joining me on upfront. thank you. thank you. since october 7,
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countries all around the world have been critical of israel's campaign in gaza. but it was south africa that brought the case to the i c j, the international court of justice. why? i think we, you, most of remember that to we come from there a similar situation as the of the palestinians. we come from a past the where we went with class to a denial i basic lives in oral date. so the applied of, of by lesbians we, we, we, we couldn't relate to, um, and that we are not able to be in different to sites flight because it's just like i was, it's identical to the top. lie to me via a good me we, we can lead to, we came to a conclusion that our struggles with similar and then we also came to the
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conclusion that to the people who are placed us with quite flimsy to i'm, i'm, i'm in the pub dates, of africa to a very large extent, really tell me and, and so on. was maintained by it is right. so so, so, so, so we had all those cup and $92.00 and we thought that would come to feed and doing that feed and watch them getting from bed to worse. and that to let us do something, something just to stop the, the every day, the sufferings last friday, the, i think j issued a provisional ruling on your case of africa's case against israel. and the court said that it was quote, plausible, that is real, had committed genocidal acts in palestine. the court called on israel to take quote all measures to prevent genocide and also to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide. however, despite those rules or decisions,
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the world court stop short of calling for a ceasefire, and that's what the south african governor was actually asking for. but was that surprising to? it was surprising because we had hoped that we're going to get that this is fine because we still believe that to the, to the best. and that this a comes through and says, you know, of a, to get this as far as the way it will stop can be the, the become each, you know, but that's why it would be better. but having said that, if you look at this pro vision, that measures on the outside of the be a mounting to this is fine because it to be very difficult to get it out to this provision that makes sense and be able to report in, in a months time without doing things differently. you see this so to let me push on that little bit because israel's position is we're happy to take all measures to
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prevent civilian deaf to prevent you know, violence or depth and cetera. because that's what we've always been doing. so they're going to make the case that whatever the court is asking them to do, they're going to carry out because they've always been carrying it out. and at the depths that we're seeing, the 26000 deaths in 3 months are not because they want to kill people, because a mazda is let them know choice by hiding in hospitals in refugee camps and all of this stuff. what would you say to that? you see the, those parameters, not measure of the website. if you, if you talk is about to people access to head, to, to medical and health care facilities. right? yeah. then it means that they must be secured. they must be able to go there. they must not be a fleet that they will be paul, if we are talking about people having access to medicaid to them that toward the end a to c t and all of that, it must be available. if you're talking about to the,
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to many, 10, and 8, to be able to reach way into his most intimate, that then that must not be any fighting that is going on. it must be able to go. so it will be very difficult for us to tell why the should up, i mean, why the suit to school? why the, the palm, the school of the company on being that, that one of these web and seeing what kind of city you use carpet bombing because of how much is hiding behind civilians and all that passed didn't work. that way. what you'd say is, is that truck is coming late in new in emil kaylee, and i don't think we are saying they should not change the i am is and all of that, we're not saying that. but what do i say? leave the civilians out of these and what one says most, it's been a number of young people to but i mean to that that, that, that, that they seem to be in the majority of women and children are the majority of collectively. it is the 20 more than 26000 people have died. $10000.00 of them are
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deals and it's uh, were somewhere around one percent of the overall child population free as it has been killed. that that's it. and that's a stunning number. cut this lot. you have confidence that israel will do anything different in the aftermath of the ruling. and if so, what we've done to know we've done to know really we don't know, we don't know, but i think that will really depend on build resolve, offering traditional community because i think they've judges have done their best . and that thing, they've given us the best decisions that have that to be put under the circumstances and that it's up to the international community because it's going to the un though. yeah. so it's up to the international community to make up in his mind whether it wants to protect the palestinians. you're talking about the will of the, of the international community. what can the international community to israel says we're not going to change or the good. there's a lot of people who, whoop, i'm in the, as international come i have to can do a lot of things, but what will the leg photos and so the complete solution of user. mm. right.
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complete 10 percent. that's what it is. you know, if flushing is, i'm a to do to behave innocent in my mouth and that tool that, that to them and that, and that seems like a, a denying them my pets in a, sanctioning them to the extreme and bump going them. so to say and all of that, we have that those measures they've been used before. it can still be used. so hands, i'm saying it's not as different and there's no community doesn't have ways of dealing with the international community. we do listen to this know, community have meetings and level inches and all of that. it is up to us to decide that we are going to hold for the what the charges they have said. and the judges have told us what reward is being suspect to their people. to say there are lots of places they did something wrong,
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but only the jewish state is getting isolated it's. it's marvin to very israel's national security minister. in addition to just dismissing the ruling in and of it, so he said haig she made on his ex account. he also said that was that i submitted a, do you have a concern or how do you respond to the concern that the specific choice to bring israel to the international court is an anti semitic. this is that the, but i find also very, very said, you know, that you do horrible things and then you hide behind says things of, i've the same it in order to model i live like maybe people and to play me less than to stop me sheets and keeping quiet that has been used it as, as, as i speak. and i will tell you how horrible that is that to say that the business of some of the most prominent palace being in support as in south africa,
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jews who are in the forefront of pushing that something has to be done. yes. well definitely good jews. oh, well, be involved in the idea about the struggle and are still alive at the pushing for this because they say they can say above paid was a, let's was wrong. but to be quiet, upload to the what you pacing of of quite last night. so now with them going to say what these people are, the type of people you're talking about, they then call them, they say it'd be a set of 18, a base of 18 because they've got the got to spend up. that's what you have doing as well, and that's what i'm saying. it becomes so sad to that. so, so long. there have been these 2 to a motor play made on machines on people and saying that once you could use fires what you're doing in, in file size, they're all plastic, even of a policy me is. and this lot of pilots, females,
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they call that on the 17th. so i don't know what is i'm just images the minimal like germany. i had previously said that it would intervene on behalf of israel. but at the world court saying, there was no basis what so ever. for the accusation of genocide, they argued that the interpretation of genocidal intent has to be more restricted. yeah. um, however, in announcement uh came after the i c j's decision where a german foreign minister angelina a bareback said the israel's still must adhere to the icy g ruling. uh, based on what we see now. do you believe that germany will be intervening on israel's behalf? and the next stage of this was really done for the end of cause that's why we went to do we stay out, i'd let them do it, but we still insisting on what we think is happening in palace. oh, what, what i think about germany and i just think about the why, you know,
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you talked about more blackmail. i mean, is there a, is there a hyphen guilt from european nations given their own role in the nazi holocaust? i don't know for, but when they seem get into the issue and show it's moving towards us that deal with the opposite gunsmith flatfoot at the end that they produced color now lives in the free as good as the men. they put you people and they're about to go to work basically as they both do things that will be what would it be? would it be colored thing that is 3 and a lot do they stolen from ma'am, from the code to the end you see? so it is to be connected, the lives that we lost and all that we are talking about genocide to now have you had it? the one who fell into the quote of these genocide of 10000000 people. 10000000 people to look to buy a king. do up one of those bells you have you ever heard of it? nobody talks about that. nobody pops up all that. so what,
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how is the sense of guilt not to buy last? why is it like that side and not this side? so if it was a me to show it was to investigate. thank you so much for joining the. i appreciate that. good. thank you. thank you. that is, it may be facing a collapse of humanitarian system as donor countries pull funding from the united nations relief and works agency or unreal. acosta provider of a both before and after october 7th. thus far at least 26000 guys have been killed . and another 1700000 have been displaced. so why during the time of crisis of countries pulled the funding and what will happen to civilians will depend on the agency for survival. here to speak with us about this is the united nation special rep, a tour on the situation of human rights in the palestinian territory occupied since 1967 francesca albany. same for jessica, thanks so much for joining me on. upfront israel has accused 12 underwood
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employees of being involved in the october 7th attacks against israel. the u. n. has said that it's investigating these serious allegations, but since been at least a dozen countries including united states, germany, u. k. have already stop giving funding to the agency you in the officials of warned that the loss of the funding could lead to a collapse of the humanitarian system from your perspective. but what impact would this have on the people? oh, thank you for having me mark. um, 1st of all, i think that should impact is the spanish of times and to my knowledge, the number of countries okay. does. so has reached 18 right now, and this is absolutely shocking and it's not justifiable apparently. i mean we, we have not seen the evidence that their obligations that time a 12 staff member survived raw, has participated in the 7th of october attach. and while,
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without even ensuring your gross has terminated the contract. so these are all these people in the interest of the agency as the commissioner general said again the, the logic of the suspending funds given the fact that the united nations iraq has already taken measures taken very seriously. these are negations to make some sense whatsoever. and also because it's going to need to weigh your money targeting capacity worse than what we are see already with the risk profoundly news. going to get this straight and with the risk of all the diseases which are already spread the even worse and killing more people, that you might even affair as an emergency release for the nature of the un marketing grace shit has hosted withdrawing funds for money. well,
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is found is and would resolve in the collapse of the mine or it's just, i mean, you gotta, we find ration you my guardian and human rights consequences know totally in gaza. youtube, i just want us to encourage rebuttal, sawgrass, the region because we shall not forget the rock overreach and i enjoyed doing cd 11 and it'd be putting that into as they finish jerusalem on the so bottom line is that a keystroke would have to take immediate responsibility for the $2.00 media and survivors in gaza. and this is not a reassuring prospect of getting their reported level violence against civilians but also in the rest of the policy and territory. so in light of the picture, you just painted the gross humanitarian consequences, the violence of displacement, the disease, the potential famine, if all of that is going to happen as a consequence of the alleged crimes of 12 people in under. what would
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that not amount to collect the punishment as it does this was my 1st assessment when i, when i heard these, because 1st of all, as i just as i said, it makes not no sense logically, to palm the should the agency for something that has been allegedly done by a few members of the organization. you know, i has a very sore groceries, but i mean, what is expected to do that and have the policing tools so i like no other agencies that has that. so it's very unrealistic choice inspected an armoire, who checked in an environment. austin's of the dental guy says, trades which has been under, located for 16 years, and we just offered 5 major worst before the 7th of october, where the reason the extension in warehouse is this back to the routing. okay. all
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righty, it's, it seems logical, but also the support. so could you say a little bit more about the embedding process though, because there are people in the global community who have accepted the logic in the narrative. that hon actually is very indiscriminate in the palestinians that they hired to work on the ground for unreal, particularly in the gaza strip. and that it's just a breeding ground for, for these types of things. how would you respond to that? what is, what is it like, what is the bidding process like? you know, i think that there is being and these uh, these on vacations against our, our, our bar to open and i've talked against the agency that dates back to the cage. and the dogma intensified as of the 7 people to over there as being incorrectly increasing smearing on the agency, associating it to her mouth. and including parliamentarians in the, in israel saying that the only way to ensure victory would imply destroying.
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i'm wrong, as i said in general, you, when you money garden agencies can not bet lucas personality for meetings and see. but i'm logged out of background checks when, when he does to, when he can record. so it stops and he has 813013000 staff members in gaza serving 1700000 of find a seat. and so 75 percent of the policy and seeing guys are on rough beneficiaries . of course i'm working on monitoring stuff. auctions outside the work at the same time i'm ross has a stronger scrutiny of over the personality tires. and in fact, every 6 months at the needs of both staff members and beneficiaries and vendors are due to the judge to all most states,
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including israel. and so if you're going to use real, di didn't have information concerning any possible wrongdoings completed by iraq stock because i hadn't had to equal the to the agency. okay. and will be bleeding right now. switching to me an orchestrated campaign against up against iraq. so the allegations against unruh were made public on the same day that the i c j rolled on provisional measures in south africa's genocide case against israel's. is that a coincidence? hm. do you want me to be honest, 3 diploma. i think on this i think the honest yeah, of course it was tardy. king, it was striking the day after the um the i c. j, rudy. there was this new circulating and oh stop it or the stop and other vendors page. the us 1st and foremost, is decided to suspend just from the aid it to the agency. so it can be read
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as a way to shoot the pension away from the i, c j, a general side in 3 mortar. and again, it could be able so seen as far as the by long spending export to these ro do. i mean, he made the agency, this is something that they expect, as i said to the post also agreement. this is something new. but at the same time, what shocks me is the it's not necessarily the maneuvering or symbol maneuvering from israel. what they find shocking is their response by member stage, because acting fast, one rock at the moment if he's big, substantial for medium, for honesty and seeing gaza, who are enjoying catastrophic leaving michelle helped me understand that those members things. because again, if it weren't even just in the united states, or if there's no just made the call and no one responded to, to the request the cut and the refunds, it would be less shocking. but again,
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we're talking about more than a dozen countries. suspending the funding before the investigation is completed. how do they, how does it justified? how do you make sense of it? it makes it cannot be justified. so it so immoral, irresponsible, but also in my have seriously got indications for this, for this stage. the and again on the one ahead of the, during the fox to death. some of these transactions have been originally founded by new r i, c, j. those are pretty close to judging general side this implies and these are the responsibility for member states because basically the i, c j has a nurse to the international community. all the reason i'm kind of finding garza and he does order the media to ineffective action. so they have to dig an action, seeing their power to prevent these drugs from couldn't to continuing with my procedure to general side. and the 2nd is to um,
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to ensure they, they do not to aid and abet. we the, we tend to go to the ox and they might be seen the high school police it without soap jo site. so instead of ensuring that you money tie a is the very to, is that even trenton. now what they do is they take action, castigating the agency that provides critical support to maintenance of the policy and seem to try, how do you make sense of that? i mean, your point out the paradox and it's jude contradiction. how do these powerful nations arrive at the conclusion that this makes sense? i seen and i'm the country, and i'm now seeing then they will, couldn't see their restating 8. well, it's not sufficient. they shouldn't have done anything the 1st place. and now they should, the really defines the awesomeness possible. i don't know what they are telling
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themselves. i have no idea. but i hope that civil society and the people, the peoples of this kind of treat when we take action instead of as a single women. this is all the time to be signed. again, the international community has been unable, unable to be then to general tides in, in other patients. it goes up the wrong guy. does that pretty mostly are single be not. but this is unique as this data. so somehow be not as that has said before, the international court of justice, because this is a genocide that is being painted by and documented by the back, the very big things. and the not cool that was the, the local then for the is the door. these people shown the by priority, but not only western countries is a be small and these were present structure. this is sasha what there should moment tomorrow because it is these stuff is clear that there is a huge device that is not just
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a symbolic between the west and the wrist where there is also a gray area where in my you, out of countries i've not done enough either to bring them back to the policies, but again, international law is being called be this month. so whatever it international and international based the system can do to protect the lives of, of people in danger and to ensure a peace. and the b b for role is being completely of these models. and this is and this is something of course, francesca, vanessa, thank you so much for joining us, an upfront thank you. all right, everyone, that is our show. a 1st will be back the the
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activities designed to help young minds come to terms with children with very different experiences, but also suffering. some degree of trauma gung. could children such as 12 year old kid hello, struggled to talk about their experiences. we would take it into buses. he tells us to russia where we stayed for a bit over a month. ukraine estimates about 20000 children have been full simply relocated to russia, despite repeated efforts and international mediation. only about $400.00 children have been with us for now the focus is on reclaiming ukrainian. children helping them recover. this is the 1st genocide this we see in real time. it's the victims themselves. there's a disconnect between what we are witnessing on social media versus what we're seeing on mainstream. it is always an attempt to frame a true side of them, but there is no 2 sides to this. the western media does have
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eunice. from the heart of the story, dozens has been arrested, interrogated and put into the presence of david information on family members. the that is really 0 strikes weapons homes in the city of darrow ballot and central dogs where there was a large concentration of displaced palestinians the pennsylvania. it's good to have you with this. this is elza 0 live from the also coming up, blindfolded and shackled for 7 weeks and gaza. how this thing and dr. describes how he was tortured by his really forces 2 days of national morning or do.

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