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the, the violence and synagogue also the president postponed this month selection. lucky so cited control of the city is over the disqualification of some presidential candidate position that says it's a constitutional. so could kind of go the headings even more as far as inside the
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm the spelling of your pain set. a goal is president mackie sound made a surprise announcement on saturday, indefinitely. postponing elections showed you with felicia this month. he cited control the seat surrounding the disqualification of some presidential candidates and of your position has accused solid trying to cling on to power and protests of taking place in the capital deka. setting all this often viewed as the confidence more stable democracy, a red pillar of stability in west africa where it's neighbors. it faced cruise and civil was sa says he's not going to run for that time, but with no new dates for the presidential election. and prominent candidates still . bod from contesting? is the countries thinking deeper into political time? well, if that's how custody is just for us from the senegalese capital. so we've been trying to feel outside the parliament, but we've been pushed around by police who have not allowed us to fill in either location. this is very tense moments for synagogue inside the parliament is
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a r m p is gathering to make this historic votes to give a date of when the presidential elections are going to take place. a key factor here to is whether or not present lucky cells mandates will end. it's supposed to end in april. now that has not been mentioned in the bill that's going to be voted inside the house of parliament. and that's an issue of contention. but you can see out here, police are out in full force. there's right. sporadic fighting between opposition, supporters and security forces, not just here around the parliament, but throughout the country. never has there been an election cancelled or delayed in this country. there's always been a peaceful handover of power from one president to another, and the goal is entering unchartered waters. and this is making this situation so tense. all eyes are on what's going to happen inside the national assembly.
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nicholas hawk alger 0 for insights story. it has plenty more to discuss with now, guests in just a moment. but 1st this report which takes a look at the state of democracy right now. incentive go set to go is in crisis. protests broke out of the president mackey. sol announced he would be delaying the election scheduled for later this month. so i still, i, he has betrayed the spirit of dialogue about his betrayed the senegalese people. the base of the social contract is our country's constitutions, and they got, yeah. about to phrase a price of $40.00 different prices and who knows, maybe um, if there be a position a, decide this to, during the day approvals, maybe we're going to phase vitus. so says the postponement is due to the control the see surrounding the rejection of some presidential candidates junk as an adult
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. not sure, not over. i will initiate and open national dialogue to bring together the conditions for a free, transparent and inclusive election in a peaceful and reconciled sending got it. but he hasn't set a new date, prompting criticism that the move is a bit to stay in power. set a goal, gained independence in 1960, and leopold said that a single was its 1st democratically elected leader. the country has seen peaceful transitions of power since and is widely considered a pillar of stability in west africa. unlike its neighbors set, a goal has never faced the crew or civil war. but now this growing uncertainty about when people will get to chops to cost that balance and fears that when does the does happen, it may not be free of that. we are in a country where people are mistreated, it's really tough for us. the world needs on desantis. this is
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a cry from the hops. in june demonstrations took place, of the speculation that saw was all young as the top. it was only in july that the president announced to would not be running, but since then several lead single position candidates have been disqualified. the and entrepreneur and presidential hopeful. on top of a. com. com was arrested on sunday itself says he's trying to say scott democracy, but his action seemed to be pushing the most stable democracy in west africa at risk for all the can petros, i'll do 0, the inside story. the. oh, that's not bring in august and doc, how we haven't done go some of the sheila, he's a development economist and had a reception policy at international development economics, associates from the town of caffeine. we're joined by all use, so synagogues minister of culture and historical heritage. and in london we have
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alexis awkward year on he's managing editor of the news website center for he is also a specialist and ask in current affairs. thank you for joining the gentleman. i won't welcome to all of you here on inside story. now, as we've been reporting sent, a goal is obviously been regarded for some time as a stable democracy. but we're now hearing accusations of a constitutional cru haven't been carried out. and on the, you've described to president solve decisions and delayed the election as a napoleon style crew. can you explain that for one of the inspect good? is this the actual, any of these people? because most of all companies here expected to have the extra house as initially planned. that means on february 25th. uh, most of the saint paddy's he, once they before that decision got to be no longer going to the most space. even if we have grievances against the government, we are no longer waiting for people straight. because we want to provide no
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pretense a fraud to postpone one above the exxon's. that's the civic, you know, uh, behavior of synagogues. they attach a high value to actions to because they seem that they think that they have the right to choose their own leaders and the expect it to harvey. so decision shop many people and it was a vision of what these advance by the president is to say that why do we want to have free and fair elections that team groups everyone and to i bought, uh, an ongoing uh, concert prices in the sense that there would be a crisis between the traditional and w montgomery, but the thing is, most of the senate guys, people think that this is into another crisis quite so you can kind of look around the region and now people have the post stage best of feeling. and
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most of the people about talking about go see being cool because because i look only been by trade by people in uniform, but also by people supplying power. well, as we were hearing that from and don't go, president solace saying that he's defending democracy, but he's the essentially doing that by delaying the democratic process minutes. so thank you for joining us. can you explain that from view? is that the thinking behind this? thank you necessary or let me express my products to a mr. sealer and our car the better. but let me tell her one thing there is not into no serious drive this owner decides on originally. if so, can you describe it or do you give them the given name to the cries it into the price? is that the case? the postponement has many reasons that would describe by the president himself and people are witnessing here in discomfort. instead of going for the bar,
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we have the credit is between the natural assembly and the constitutional council over alleged the corruption of custody. show the deputies, it does not from the region. what position, fundamentally to group that by defeat is formally by t, which i me, is doing the issues of corruption. and then they went through to the following to integrate and we have the creation of the problem and for the commission of the coverage to shouldn't light overs overdues of august for you and beyond that all the procedures for verifying under this is of by the costs are so it comes to the doors, does the producer of the actors. it shows also by the member of the customer show council or a seat, 24 light to be shipped on this case on both sides. we have the, this president of the mississippi of clarify the issue. they say they are accused of being corrupted. rejected all have to be done on both sides. the one thing to
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get to 3 are the discovery of fraud prevention. by kind of this you'll get the candidacy, so you so and then the use it where do i mean measures and tools it to be paid to get to look on this. ok, there's no incentive go. you have to be exclusively enough to have the sake of this incentive edition. you come to have no one, no other one, and one of them and it, and there's also a link to here many the order citizens has been, how did they proceed to get? they can just assume there's another be, make it, you know, race and they're just going to all the cuts to cancel. and then sort of just, you just saw the rejection of the verdict of the by the buses. this kind of need to but them show and it sort of dispersed and, and the appropriate classes. and then finally were still of the results. i've had it some and know super to the 2 men to, to put because somebody to other countries. this is what it is. now here we have
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separation of powers, digital story. easy enough to flip the we do the thing one and the exit could do a little bit take on the decision organization is good because it's an question. a position, i probably meant to be a pdf freedom and then you'll press any changes. and then do i like to some of the things support in the last or to minutes. so i want to pick up on something in the really back to the back to by minutes 20 minutes. so. so i, i want to ask you about something you just said that you spoke about separation of powers. and i know that something that you said in the past, we're very proud of incent ago. now. yes, let's cool the political movements and i'm politicians appeared to be questioning that process, including the president. no, sorry, what happened either due respect of the separation of powers. when the problem is
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decided to pass along related to the postponement, which is the 1st time instead of go. let me remind you that because you got in 1967, the 2nd extra present election. what possible to 9 to 6 feet age by pretty the single sort of fall limit because rise, i'm in the constitution. it is the same thing. the following members are doing when they do the table or the speaker of the house, that's the decision. it couldn't move forward without getting the prison. so because it has 3 choices, give them a little up you're doing up and then what they do for this time, for the solar, for the filter facility to just do not okay. and what, what did they do? you know the procedure then it could when we've had a view of the president,
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i want to bring, i want to bring an existing to the discussion here because i'm curious about how united to the office session is on this. as we've just had some opposition, parties it well one in particular car and one day he was bought from running his party, requested the delay, but others have completely rejected the delay. they've said that they're going to campaign. anyway, alexis, what should we make of this? is that difference of opinion and the opposition dime using that power? i think yes that those split into your position is known as united funds that don't studied their power because coming was, has a very specific issue that you know, he has this jewel citizenship for sure. and his 2nd, i'm pretty center believe so that does undermine the power, because ultimately you have a, the macbook you sell and then you have a number of different groups. you have a different position because kind what for example, does one to that? i don't want us to show to the others want to keep coming. i think ultimately the
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specified, the point is there is a constitutional crisis at the moment unfolding. and what has hit a tape and if i very stable democracy, that's the biggest take away. i think what we'll do is put in the sense of crisis is on starts and 2 people are like consecutive. and that they, these physicals within your position will add to that uncertainty because the result to united voice you have a number of different contesting voices. has different agendas, and then as one of those that you have protest is for phil that they've been disenfranchised before they feel that this was i will put unity to speak and to choose who they were going to have in control through the principles of government and they feel it that's been taken away from they've had agency withdrawing from them. so this is a real issue for, for cynical in general, aside from the schism something we've, i referred to with a lot of this seems to come down to intentionality, right? and many people and so we've been hearing believe that this is present mackey sol
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trying to to hold onto power in some way. we saw the unrest that took place when it was possible that he might then be running for that time. he says that he wouldn't don't do it. how much trust is the in this sense that he will relinquish power when it comes time we have just to of so that if you want peace, you have to be such a base. you have to show guarantees. now i'm speaking from becca, the mobile antenna is cutoffs that last time it was kept of it was doing demonstration in to point to point to suite. that means that some illegal moves are made. and afterwards, major is like taken so that people are good not going best. if you look up here, internet got most of the people, the majority of the people they one piece and they say, we are against the small. we have seen state months from religious groups from trade deals, pump, sewage, society organizations,
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ordinary people. everyone is shocked and no one could measure that if you out from abroad. this is not a gunshot of crisis at the beginning. it has to be boxed rated. and that's the reality here. and the thing is, i say the people is how the last page. uh, because uh, before the position of pollution they ask several times to have it's probably a month we can reduce on a number of topics like for example, the way the coverage, 90 and budget has been use or mismanage. there had been a demands to have by the month the committees on, for example, if people are what you're looking, what you're doing demonstrations. but now surprisingly in a matter of days, we have a fire montoya committee to investigate these allocated charges about the, the corporate judges about, you know, uh, judges from the
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a construct bar. and most of us have a clear reading of these because the ordinary people they want, i want to be not citing necessary. what do you wish people from the opposition but they want f one w d. and the current government knows that they reduce boss with no money and actions . they know that be a good candidate. good. when the elections say they want to buy sometime. so that day we choose a good about see paid to the printer and it shows and also have the, you know, hope that a good using fix doing an extra that's, that's the feeling of a good majority of how about to yes, that is the 40 to kind of reading, so whatever it might be said for my leg on perspective, you know, we could have these reading and the thing is it's not formally signed, go all the neighboring countries from the front copies using the same quick sense of going to 20. so if it was sending, not only we could say that there's something happening, but it's that general is generalized about them. so that's good months who are in
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place. they would want to leave both. alexis, i see you nodding the, obviously that this is a regional issue. we've had the regional block echo us come out there quoting, for elections to take place as soon as possible. the african union are doing the same just how much power do these regional group things actually wield when it comes to implementing events. and i think the poor to truces that they have very limited power in these situations. these are situations that have to be dealt with internally i'm, we're seeing them being expose, the lack of power has been exposed, particularly across, but also the a year. so i'm a to us, this has been a pleasant week for the worst task and block because we see is a molly clean if i so saying that they're looking to leave and then just going back a few months, we saw how they wrote a fiction pretty toothless and responding to the clearing, they said they tried to have a muscular response where they said that, you know,
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nothing was off the table including, i mean the trained convention and they had to back down and nothing happened. and instead we've seen those 3 countries become in bolton as well as not near the end of last year. we saw an attempt to true and shared with the young. i'm what appears to have been an attempt to prove that any besides as well. so this is a real problem and each time a, a cost can say is the val cofer dialogue. and then if there's a crude of code for speed or tend to democratic who now this is from, i imagine as a how about blow to them. and i couldn't, as i say, it just shows how ultimately tooth, as they all the caught, really intervene. there's nothing that they can do the route and leave a spectrum pull to really be full full in face situations. well, we know that have service have been observing democratic setbacks and set a goal for some time. now it's not just when it comes to to these elections, but they're of interest of critics on the defamation laws. i so freedom house also move to send a golf and being categorized as free to,
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to possibly free and under your in dock or how these being felt on the ground that particularly also by civil society. yesterday, people started to do most rate. and i said this money by internet is got off because my internet is what people use for their daily plates, but also be about one to demo straight there. and uh, normally they coordinate using what i bought a small antenna. so you could see that people are really shock, but the thing is, is like, we have to go deep within the ground prices. we have talked to about the $9.00 to $63.00 crises to say that this was a sort compress them. but what happened at that time, you know, in cycle for an africa, we'd never have bought but independence. no. oh. and we could even say the whole country is to some extent have been hot, was for be i'm cause it show, this is a topic that we dealt the ways always my goal for funny visual on how what length of the book, but to say that $9060.00 street was
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a way to get ripped off a candidate towards and that's what that is in the sense that you wanted to get rid of french. great. but they say it's impossible to get rid of the transcript. so what did people say that's think out these, the more that often will be see, well, this has to be taken with a grain of sort of why? because of people who sent it goes people and people actually do pretty, but you daily about you and they have been fighting against the body to go to us. and despite the political gospel, have their own live up to you. but the thing is, so they've got us all the african countries from the front of one era. they have been never allowed to choose their own details, feel free and fair and inclusive elections. you will have no record of no political liter brooks. his country factory is harnessed, and the one for brick rich to get rid of you know, to fresh read on the francophone. i forgot that monday to read an election. you
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have no record about that in sunday. go that these the that goes out as big because for once you have young people whose seemed to be harness, we'll see what the people are and what i love to buy the people and who brings so normal and predictions. but this has never been allowed in the history of fund before i forgot since they dependencies. and what we're seeing in the style is somehow it goes to the because our books weekly, the only way sometimes how nations have been able to get read for a number of friends for many to resolve all of the cairo and see we are using exeter had been short, many times because i'm not advocating when he go to his book and books. i don't think that this has been done to him. so any time you have a leader that could try to dispatch the school, you had to ensure pisces in 96 city. we have that in, so they go, well, i want to bring the minister back in now to explore the route for right now in
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terms of, of what you're calling a crisis incentive. all there's a debate, as we've been reporting on, if they'll be a vote on august 25th. we understand, but the constitution requires elections to be held at least 30 days before the end of the president's time by my understanding. and i'm not supposed to be april 2nd, so minutes, but how is that supposed to work? inspected? there is no modification of the praises, but we have just a general vision of what do we have in mind? can be 6. if to 7 is wrong, then the decision taken by the name of elements. so we definitely that the election told the only persons for a time limit that will be precise. in the new demolition and the career the coming to prison will be in office until the solution office new succession. so let me tell the one thing. there is no list has to stay in part. that can be noticed,
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it can present microsoft, be able to be able to and they should still be really recall. we want to over to each of the everyone to each of us. the run for another turn. yes. but a couple of minutes at the end, 2 more recently such a gun, this is such an conflict. don't situation. i have the minister the, i'm sorry. so i do want to ask you about this because it appears that there is a proposed exemption to the constitution that's in the works for a 6 month delay. and people are obviously concerned that if, if that pos is that, that could then be repeated further delays. what would you say to that? no, because it depends on the, let me look on the executive power. only the fundamental can didn't pass lower is related to the strongest possible management or any other major bi monthly. no, no below it can be implemented. it's not,
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are not to probably do to by the present and let me to present microsoft will never probably get something that's easy enough. however, before somebody goes into the equation, social cohesion, necessarily unity based on the separately. so just i can show you this coming to me in our present unless you're solid. so to be one to what somebody said or to somebody says he was gonna ship and then well, this thing to the following. we are working on that. but let me, let me tell you something, this, the just for towers the only likely to the elections incentive go. what if it was you from here is how likely will, how soon are we likely to see elections incentive? all this is going to show that it can perfect, promote it for free for you and could even electronically includes the one giving it shot, the valley that's really good for you to compete with on the quote terms.
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what would that well, that minnesota, where the default money bar was modified to put an understanding of the game to have taken to the stream have been, it was months on going to support is a lot of people who have taken to the streets, incentive all over the past year had been support as it was, the thing was most of the friends given himself. and so part of it except that he had looked around because he had the present problem, which was settled by the judiciary and internal measures taken by the judge to point you put in that room. and then he went to the bathroom member form a find to remember us going to be able to accept the deputy of somebody if you was . oh yeah, i'm terms of legal basically all the run back i the prison alexis i'll
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called before a national dialogue which oh, i mean parties. oh sealants is that the members, every 10 degrees was i mean for the end of the one of them in the pit. these are the kind of go, can ask you to say, and then come with opinions, ideas, and proposals that can improve this address and, and lead us to free and fix it includes inspection. when people discuss when the best up and everything is possible. but in terms of risk of the overall instead of good is a country based on the overall and let's figure out what is this 3 student will then be multiplied by problem. and then by, by the problem and we have nbc universal, the, the site is the free and fair elections on the go, the level i believe that you called about prism that you've discussed on. so i'm afraid we're having to leave our discussion today that helps. but as you've all
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reiterates to just how critical free and fair elections off of the country and, and we do certainly hope that they do take place in senegal, soon and in a peaceful way. everyone feels that their voices have been had finale, thank you to all of our guests and don't go somebody sheila, you so alexis aqua durham, and thank you to for watching. you can see this program again, any time by visiting our website out, is there a dot com for further discussion? you can also go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. remember, you can also join the conversation on x. i'll handle is at a inside story for me, this nonsense. hey, i'm the whole team here and uh huh. bye. the power defines how wow we live here. we make the rules, not the people empower, investigate, expose the, and the question they use in the business of our around because one out just there
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