the same says a civilian medical facility and what seems to be a target to assess the nation with detailed coverage. this is not the only school that has been target. this schools in the cause of ship are not only schools, there shelters and graveyards, and phyllis journalism allegations of torture have increased during, as well as will in garza from be things to withholding medication. curious, found those drive their protests home to the european union. a more demonstrations of plan and revolt against high costs. you climate change policies, food impulse, and support for ukraine. so what political impacts could that action have? this is inside story, the

hello welcome to the program. i'm adrian set. a good spring is usually a time for farmers to get busy on the land. the season is still a few weeks away in europe, but many farmers are already planning a different far oh, for testing in various countries, they say the new policies which national governments must enforce, could put many of them out of business. and you directives on climate change, glancing ukraine, access to a new markets, rising fuel costs and deals allowing more inputs of food from outside the u. a role being blamed. so is your pin funding really on the french? or is this just grand standing from a well organized lobby group? what are the political implications for the you if the protest continue and what impact could they have on the use climate change plans will be asking, i guess these questions and more in a few moments after report from full gang on why farmers are on the streets farm is across us as being taken to the streets,

leaving that farms the cities to bring that on. get to the doorsteps of national governments and the you the furious about the policies adopted by the governments. they also fee a new environmentally friendly green policies to cut greenhouse gases, as well as to knock on the effects of the ukraine and t u. food inputs, threatening the likelihood on the very existence in farming they. we have here because we want to take care of this, all of the stuff, all of these supplements that, that call me from the united the europe. because we don't want to lose our time to make more paper. just we are farmers. we are the people that to take care of this all take care of the animals take care of your health, your fluids. the protest already seemed to be bringing political concessions, european commission, president ocean live on the line. a subscript plans to hoff pesticide use,

which would have cost the bomb is more beneficial. the environment pharma support is important for her son to write to you a teen. people's policy in the european parliament should find the support other policies and elections this june. it could damage on deadlines, hopes to win seconds. 10 green strategy was an important positive on the lines platform when elected in 2019. but the reaction from farm is heightened a higher inflation and energy prices has complicated the mass for his presumed re election, strategy. rushes warm and ukraine has also hate agriculture. hot fuel prices have risen sharply and pharmacy, a flood of cheaper grain, an uppercase from ukraine. the special access to the markets was given to the ukrainians following russia's invasion, added to that governments have been trying to achieve super market prices,

as inflation continues to damage. you would be in economies in strasbourg while the climate commission to push this case for a 90 percent reduction in emissions. farm was outside the european problem, and we came to explain the burdens that facing already intolerable. when i thought the color opened up, we had to meet the m e p. those to tell them that the current agricultural policy can no longer work because of the distortions of competition. all these and then products being imported into europe, which have even less regard for all production conditions and constrained by default, plesk, you know, and with a new e u wide treaty with south american countries to import more precision. an argentinian beef farm as a 3rd of alarmed at the potential cost to them. poking out you see you for inside story. the where

delighted to have to like to bend doesn't different parliaments with us to discuss set methods. so that today from doubling the joint by michael fitzmaurice, an independent member of the irish parliament, there's a farm by himself and was elected as an advocate for fathers and rural communities . from strasburg, we're joined by francisco, get out of who's an independent member of the european parliament with the group of greens and european free alliance, added brussels. we're happy to clarify who is a european policy analyst, the editor in chief of these websites. brussels reports dot edu. which comes the result. gentleman, welcome to you. well michael, let's start with you. give us a sense of just how difficult it is to be a european find the right now they get a copy of a huge subsidy, roughly a 3rd of the use budget. things really about the about pod for the and 1st of all in relation to the subsidies and welcome to all your guest and relation to the subsidies. it's college cab. ironically enough,

as one cap was brushing. it was to make sure there's people living in the cities or people with a lesser income or a bunch of what forge food and radically. so everybody agreed with this. but the problem that has happened over the years is in the last cap. the funding is less, so there's less money to go around. we are launching in obviously more countries. so the more countries that come in and you have less of a purchase, you know, the answer yourself is less funding. but on top of that, the you is constantly and i see it in our little to give you that is specific in the line of the process and haven't, has director. they are now proposing to bring in the natural restoration law, which i understand they are holding onto the next few weeks. you have to walk from framework director. if you decide it's direct to your data, you will use the policy. and it's environmental legislation on top of the environmental legislation coming. but the problem is,

and there's any and repeat this on this program. what you're telling me. that's the new in our area. we call it an interest ration all submitted very clear that there is no funding because in my unit and my understanding is that as part of support entity in said that they didn't want as a country to be giving more money into the purchase. so how can you keep calling pulling pulling was on farmers, making them do more and more and more. by that the same time i'm going to take, for instance, you cream, such a lone firm. let's have a look at laurie driver's and, or these weren't that jane, and the price is being coach. calling with a group for people living in you are the rates of pay in other countries outside. you would be an awful lot less. we have a standard to keep you in our areas. and on top of that, then you have a yard of this is up says to doing deeds. if the talk about crimes, you don't go button and beef from present or you don't coordinate from argentina.

if you have a radio's hand in any of the countries in europe and farmers are suffering and they are sick of it. and i believe in the coming elections this summer in june at the may p elections which we call every punch it would be having. okay, but to be a clear message sent out because it's not a lot of fun. yeah. yeah. okay. the people my go in and see me. all right, but my the country's nice round about i haven't met it very clear that they support . okay, cool. and the reason if you make a lot of points that we will, we will pick up on with, with the other guests francisco, let's stop. first of all with you and the environmental issues that, that michael was, was talking about, the climate activist with farmers or against them right now. i mean they, they've, they've joined about protest this week. yes. so the, they have a common cause and they should have also been in me any smoke the green seats, not the degree of policies that we should be applying to also say i will culture.

let's be clear. that's who's reading the bottom and the condition and also the member states for the last decades. i'm not the means. and so these policies that are being fed, the features, agreements that can kind of disparity, that farmers have a new c, b s mess by the corporation by the retailers, by the b pharma and b agribusiness companies. this policy sort of promoted by the ways that we were looking for these for almost 4 big gates even for 90 may, if you're already stating the obvious that the school that i will call chip balls, policy deficient as policy. this a free trade agreements will end up a smashing far so again, they have a really important mission. the cost of suffice to help us actually cheaper foods. but again,

we are watering them for more than 40 years. this is not the problem or we policies . the problem is that they are being union. we distribute groups to levels the social democrats and the socialist continued to smash the foreigners and indians at the don't promote a different type of collection in the beginning of the to do the spend they've done in 2019. we have the opportunity to change the coming out of the culture policy to have more funds and to help farmers produce better. we more help, for example, on the co schemes. they think we have more support to change their productions. the single schemes are just a small percentage of the culture policy. and you're talking about 260000000000 euros. and well, india revolt against a call whenever culture policy revolt against the fugitive limits and the which supports as a complimentary culture policy and pushy for the free data. we went to the medical . sure. so yeah, we do the single size we, we are. i think the best

a so far as the go to the level this we are not to do anything please to be a to b u t. all these policies. busy so to use basically, what are we to make of the european commission scrapping of its plan to have pesticide use of the wolfing down about the planned rules politically was, was this a genuine concession to struggling fibers? or was it more designed to help us a bundle line when re election in june as well? these are very modest concessions the, the pesticides, the regulation already faced the level positions that are being part of mate anyway . and full deadline has set that they still may come up with a uh, with something she also made a minor concession last week to postpone a land use restriction for about one year. so i think the problem is indeed the, the green, the green party is not in charge, but the green id,

so very much in charge. there are a number of green dog mos that, especially the political mainstream is refusing to give up. and that's why you see the same european commission this week proposing the most rather cold climates targets ever to reduce you 2 levels by 90 percent, by 2040. and you wonder how, how is this possible? are they not reading the news? i mean, you repeat, industry is badly suffering as a result of high energy prices that are the results of the green experiments with or um, you know, energy production and the degree. and so i've always wanted to experiment indeed with the structure of farming. and i think farmers, they should abandon the idea that they should get state supports. they should understand that if you give, if you receive money, that they will always be conditions linked to it. that all kinds of, you know, policy makers and, and, and all kinds of action groups will try to, to use this,

the subsidies as leverage to try to track down on, on your business model. i think barbara, farmers are perfectly capable to survive in the free markets and understand how they're angry about the competition formats in america and from ukraine. because not always do these importers into europe have to comply with the same standards. so it's obviously not fair, but to then try to exports our standards to the rest of the roads. i mean, that's just bizarre, i think, or trading partners. i say, look, are you, are you trying to trade with us, or are you sending a list of um, regulations that you want us to uh, to implement so, so genuine traits is about trusting, trusting each other. so i think what we need is that we don't need to, of course, a bundle. all of the standards that are over, okay, and stuff. but we need to rush in organization. all right, francisco, you want to come in the, you know, for me,

this is bizarre. so sol trusting each other so we don't have to do 12 any regulations. for example, when we talked about best of sites, for example, we, we, we ben, certain sites. i took the computer to be damaged for health and for the environment . human to be new and a but to still exploit them, for example, is also american. so we just wanted to trust the other partners and we just have no choice ability on our product. so on the one hand, you talk about the sovereignty, food security, and on the other hand you are just saying for us to trust on each other. well, this is remarkably for me to, to lisa. and i also found that we are, that you are also saying that's just the free market shoots should the maintain the agriculture system and they should not receive any support to do field. otherwise they, they should have support also could change some more sustainable practices. and this is the model, that's really the standards, the fact that you're having on the environment. and for example,

in for children to solve hoble functional, we are talking about what to sketch the saw. so sol, buyer that 70. so 70 percent at these uh is projected to pets on what the final thoughts are, because we don't have water. and we did the, the, the data on the fly i'm, it's use, he's a scary, sorry, but all scientific knowledge is, is available. and, well, i don't know nothing, the farmers who built the most of the most of the heaps by these climate change. okay, michael, i'll get back to you just a moment. but 1st let's, let's get piece of the right. so reply that, well, if the european union would indeed stake a scientific approach, you could make a case. but look at the glitter, say debates, all the experts are saying it was fine. and still there was a massive push to try to bind unrestricted to end. indeed to it, when it comes to support for farmers. i mean, i understand the argument, the idea is okay, some of them are struggling. that's give them some cash. but let's look at the reality. 80 percent. all of you know, these, these farming subsidies are,

are going to. ready the big boys, the big concerns, and that's how it always goes. you know, when you have this central planning system, you always end up with crony, as and, and of course, it goes hand in hand with, with protectionism which at the end of the day not only hurts consumers, but also mix or forming a sector less competitive. you know, if we are protectionist and all the trade books will always also be, you know, protectionist and oliver farmers are actually exporting to the rest of the world's a. so i think it's, it would be very unwise to abandon uh, you know, the id does. truth is ultimately a good for, for everybody. okay. alright. michael, please feel free to comment on, on anything that you've heard of the last few minutes, but i wanted to put it to you that but from, as the main concerns very from, from country to country, they do have grievances. but a common to all. what is it that farmers want?

the 1st of all the ones to be treated fairly at the moment, the farmer is rude and i can speak for our number indeed. raise your own jewel dispatching that to get you to where that that works. the only people in the world that was putting basically putting up a car, but i put no meeting and you wouldn't hear people saying we need to get rid of all these animals. that's crazy. so as, as being pointed out, you can do something better. you will just try and do it better and a farmer under land. it costs too much to make mistakes. that's the boss you might be in relation differences from francisco. what he said in relation to this, not the greens, well i can try to do an ard and we have a b minister for an environment of agreement issue that has gone over to your and has taken everything, hook, line and sinker, and agreed with it. and, you know, you kind of keep printing art on, does a different country in a different time, is to spain and to, you know, other parts of europe. and when you do it,

when you make legislation that just lation can affect some countries, worst of the other process goes going to vote for the nitrous duration and all the consequences of dash in a turnover. and is that you would put family firms social production. and if you look at the amount of firms you're to pub lost in the last since 2010 if you're lucas ard and when a joined the e. c, which was a very good project. it was a community unit and that's now gone to unit. we have gone from 300000 farms down to a 100 and talked to 1000 farmers and twice you after pre k. it's not in the farm or is the local community because in our, in and here you will fall, we would cause small farmers along with them. that wouldn't be part time working as well. but they have built into a community that the low kind of hardware and the local shop down the road would survive. but what we are doing is starving them, pushing them in

a situation that if they have to re, with our land, the don't need to live in the area. they can go from that. it will not watch the consequences of that. the local school trolls, the local shop with close, the local community will find a part. is that what the you repeat in project is about? i believe at the moment there are people going round and the name of the environmental is the tone driven. we either say yes, if you can do something better, that's great. but i saw even last night in the debate, that was they had are the new targets that came out of industry have stage. we kinda do basically a quad for, but the e you have come out and said by 20 partridge, we're going to slashed it. so you have, in my opinion, civil servants dreaming up ideas that do not live in the, in the areas are work. the areas are live in the saw it,

but we have to work with. there's different type of lands, rice around you are okay. where i am from there is no pints and trying to grow and saw you because you, you wouldn't be fit to group. but there are parts of your that is pretty good. there's no more we're able to produce policy, breast feed, fed beef in our that we are be know told you got a quote, the numbers every day. there is something new coming on this trip feed of information that is leaving people in disarray. that is how does people fed up with the whole european project the way it's going? yeah. and people are very dismounted just all right. the francisco, environmentalists don't get it in reality that could have put family funds out of business. you know, again they, it looks like it's a degree measures they are pushing farmers to bankruptcy and it's not, we are promoting that to we can only incentives to far so they can produce food

quality foods and a 3rd party permits. and they gave it to stated here that the c p money is going to be pharma, and to be industrial agriculture sector. so again, we're jeff. it's usually rejected this on give me the water in the oh, okay, i the all right, michael. hang on, michael. yeah, you started francisco, whatever money i get doesn't match or if the not the nature restoration law is going to float my land because i don't need to live in the air. you get that into your head. we found cash so infirm. she know they don't walk on want to know. i just want to un, he's proposing on our pg towards the the, you get part of the to irish ways of this. just for the most of in general mcconnell, i don't, we can't, we can't talk over each other because no one has a thing, frank francisco, yes, please come to the stage. the countries have national plans that

do take into account barely ality. so he's just saying that we, we are going to do everything he for brussels and we have just moved to florida everything. so we can re, while make sure this is just see, this is missing information. this is nothing serious. i haven't got the glass now go back and forth. mike, michael, just very quickly, excuse me. it's not misinformation because the default position onto the nature restoration laws that all pete signs are in bad condition. second of all, you talk about the member state. what happens is the member stage in good faith tries to do the plan, then you will get environment is going to be c j which has happened on the habitats director. you tell me one country that isn't in a straight jacket at the moment, be an industry role. it's transport farming or whatever on the heavy type story of picks. and you will come along and say, the major see, that's correct,

don't by you. what about the training dates? i'll be back with you in just a moment, but very quickly, francisco, i need, i need a, a 32nd thoughts from you? well, again, this is, this is lisa formation. uh, in my perspective, because the for me to stay on the word. okay. all right. all right, let me just make free misinformation id would fax. all right, the gentleman on this will agree to disagree for the moment i want to bring people in, because there's something else that i want to touch upon here. a piece of to what extent is the, the quote between a rock and a hard place here. and on the one hand, it needs to be implemented by till climate measures. it also needs to be mindful that as a voting block, funding communities are pretty powerful of how realistic is the fear that follows those in rural areas whose incomes are dependent upon funding. i will vote for the fall, right in june elections call maybe some of them will, but indeed it's, it's not just the farmers at the end. dates may a name move to protest bodies. many people are, are fed up with the,

and the willingness of the main stream to abandon a certain, you know, those months. and that's indeed have been pushed by the green movement for years. and i think that's uh, or green friends. i'm sure that many of them would agree that you know, if the member states so perfectly capable to decide for themselves the right balance between economy and nature. and especially if you're talking to ball blends and, and use this is typically something very local. so what, why don't we, um, a concludes that indeed the top down approach has failed. that's indeed the straitjackets that are being post from the policy level. but like, for example, i'm from belgium originally and, and in the netherlands and belgium you have this big nitrogen debates which is about severe restrictions on nitrogen emissions for farming. which house goes to the farmers party last year to become the biggest party in the country in the netherlands. now, i mean, this is partly a national responsibility,

but the not tudor of directors of the you make it very hard to change the designation of protect the nature area. once you have decided that this is protect the nature so, so i mean what, why should the even half of say on this is the democracy not capable of deciding this for uh, for itself. uh so i think we, we need to, um, the thing is that we need to take a look much more modest suppression brussels. okay. francisco, you know, a scholarly saying that the result, democrats, each, that the member states and those are presented to the causal which they are. and then people are multi life. it's to the bottom of that 3 yards. so i get the, the side view the far right as a solution to, to, to the problems off of the farmers, all, even the common problems that be facing the you, it's measurements. we see the results. even though we saw the populist example of rex it, that now they are facing

a huge flash endeavor thought of me and they were promoted to be the best paid off prosperity. and so these formulas ideas that the far right is going to save the farmers with the save the bottom, and that the states doesn't that don't have the same in the policy. these, these things fall is, i'm sorry, but this doesn't seem to be reality. the things that you can change, obviously, but it only goes with democracy in more direction and more debates, not just going around and coming out, testing that you have to be nationally said we are going to solve the problem specially from yeah, i from across is not as francisco, i thank you i, michael, i have a minute left on on the program or to get your reaction to that. but i also want to know whether these protests are set to continue to get bigger. in my opinion, the approaches are set to continue. the farmers are just how they are sick of what's going on right around the, the whole of your 2nd of all, i really hit this idea of the greens are,

are start seeing it everywhere. fire rice. i am not for rice. farmers representatives are not far right. farmers that are farming the land. they're not the right spot. the art is common sense. we live in reality. we live in the world where you make your fuel power and just spend your few pounds to try and never know living. and so let's go back to what was said by your dear speaker. and it just shows the way your up has moved with from radiology. we have a place here now and then when that's designated as, as being spoke about in the hot and there are people in danger of losing their houses. there is another elderly people in danger of getting drowned in their houses because it turn lock is in functioning. and the designated area is actually dying. right. and the cords because of the how the types director has blocked, making an older little tree and 5 by states tied up for the like 4 or 5 years. but that's the you are to, we live in no bureaucracy,

not common sense. okay. that i'm afraid gentlemen, we're going to have to read it many thanks indeed to you. oh, michael fitzmaurice, let's, let's go get it all. i'm peter clapper. thank you for watching. you can see the program again at any time by going to the website. i'll just do a dot com for further discussion. join us with our facebook page. you'll find that at facebook dot com forward slash h a inside story out of course, you can join the conversation on x. i handle the a, a j inside story from me. adrian said again, i'm the same here and so we'll see you again. bye. for now. the in the history of refugee camp south of bethlehem walls carry the images of palestinian detainees as my hon. mishaps husband set previously spent a year and administered to detention. she tells us he was arrested again several

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