the reason that we're able to see so much progress with machine learning is because it is predicated on the exploitation of labor somewhere else. exploring the implications for the global south as the all differential intelligence revolution, etc, rings to where the benefits lie in with a 100 light is on. but we're backing 9 diet future on a technology that is fundamentally very unsustainable studio b, b, i series on a jersey. it is, is rarely and breach of the un court's ruling, the international court of justice for that it's better to end acts of genocide as well. as to prevent incitement to commit genocide or foss with more palestinians killed in guns that every day who can foresee as well to comply. this is inside story, the

kind of welcome to the program. i'm adrian sitting in the united nations. top court has ordered israel to prevent and punish actions that could lead to or inside the genocide and gossip. it also ordered much needed humanitarian aid and basic services be allowed into the strip. the ruling was widely viewed as a step towards ending israel's war, but in the weeks that have followed troops have continued to act with impunity. intensifying the indiscriminate killing of palestinians about permit us to benjamin destiny, all who is threatening a possible military offensive in rough up the southernmost point of the territory. palestinians are trapped with no way to go. so what can be done? the end as well as brutality? we have plenty to discuss with, i guess the 1st this report, saunders, you know, so you don't have some things you can stick as that on january the 26th, the united nations highest quote, determined that was multiple evidence of genocide in gaza. it was a historic moment for palestinians and does it cost the international court of

justice, then ordered israel to take all measures within its power to present act the violate the genocide convention. but in the days that followed, israel seems to have ignored the ruling. in fact, according to you and exploit francesca opened, as it appears to be in breach of the court orders in just over 2 weeks since the i c j routing. the army has killed moved in 2000 palestinians in garza bringing the death toll to more than 28000 since october the 7th. in the same period over 3000 people were injured. the health ministry ones. these numbers will only bryce with victims found under the rubble every day opened as a point to the continued demolition of infrastructure and the ongoing lack of medical supplies, food and clean water. as for other examples of israel's violation of the court orders, it could get was prime minister benjamin netanyahu was ordered, has made

a treat to roll up clouds for the round defensive in refund. in the southern most tip of garza, one more than 1400000 displays palestinians. 2 thirds of the population, a sheltering in the city. you end facilities that are operating at many times above capacity schools. most churches and holes have become places of refuge. people are crammed into tents, a makeshift shelters, while others, a sleeping on the streets would be disaster with the launch an attack on the rough . uh huh. uh, they will be the muster of genocide, a criminal criminal i could say. while the i c j reading may be a legal victory for palestinians many asking how beneficial it is if israel defies it's old as in gaza, a veronica pedroza al jazeera inside story. so

let's bring it, i guess, for today's discussion from rough uh and southern gaza with joined by usa from uh, chicago residents and advocacy officer for the norwegian refugee council. here in doha is one robotic colored. it's a of a jetta. leah, an online news websites. he's also a non resident fellow at the center of the conflicts and humanitarian studies from london, which went by name gordon, the professor of international law on human rights at queen mary university. dave is also a board member of the international state crime initiative gentlemen. welcome to you. well, let's stop with you. use that as the any side. the, the israel is complying with the i. c j's orders. genuine. unfortunately, the didn't see any difference either between before the decision had been made by the c. j o, off the not, not been a does not send to that and now we're talking about the fact that the to,

instead of the packet of thing, i could have somebody $160.00 and venue is more than a 1000. it's a lot. and yeah, unfortunately i use based on me to use that off. i didn't see any change and change the amount of a that didn't the but i'm, i have that to that, that, that's the situation in the north and bottom. got it on, got the city which i'm pushing down to now, all of our hands on the side that i cannot read, i'm not able to provide that suspend to the bottom doesn't because we don't have an access to is allowed but investigated to the local incentive for a few amount of items and off the bed. unfortunately, often that tack of one of a truck to the bit of advice on the coast underwood. none of the dates are being sent to the northern part of the country, the canadian van. i'm or talk more about 400000 citizens living in a phase i listed on payment. we use the product, we used to call it on demand that we have a, the situation and the very different payments that actually we have at the same. is

there anybody who is not looking for anything to pay that unfortunately they don't have any option in front of any of that attend the dental office does have to provide them. and if i need to get the service situation in gaza, unfortunately of the situation have been changed. and use of people must be particularly worried about israel's threat to launch a ground defensive. the in rough. uh, uh. where will people go? and that's the question everyone said about if i had a family, so i have been displaced that a lot. i've been display save a lot of times this is now became kind of expert in displacement. i'm far from the options that we had before. any person that i live in, the apartment goes into a battery i have been, i have flipped from a place to the other 4 or 5 times. now i don't have any other options. menu own of us have been to that been involved. and more than 60 percent of the housing unit in general, or because of the room had been destroyed, that they meaning how sending it out and dropbox. so even if they would push

somewhere and put them outside to be in for the for the again, unfortunately, that is no options. we don't have any place to go like gotten the city i'm done with a bunch of drugs. i totally destroyed some of the areas on the bombardment time and the database is loads unbuttoned and civil and it has been as bad. i can say about that, but is in other areas. now we audited as between designated things and that gives you a model from the other side. so even though off as, as a city doesn't have the capacity for many venue to, for this amount of people who are being displaced in lot 5 more than 1000000, 500016 citizen in 55 square. going to miss out on leave without any option or solution or any hope in the horizon for a solution for the situation with real money. what do you make of what you just heard the from from uses is israel in breach of the un quotes rooting? i would argue that it's more in breach of the ruling today than it was on the day that the ruling was issued. so the, the nature and intensity of these really on slots,

on the gaza strip appears to be changed. what has changed is a geographical scope, which as we've discharge, has now extended to verify from the southern gaza strip. i think the other change is that time is a factor. so as we've just heard what had been hunger and severe hunger a month ago is now an actual found. and we've also seen that as real continues to block, a continues to shoot up, a convoys snipes at um, ambulances are killing killing their stuff and so on. so i, i really don't see anything any change and is really conduct except for the worse and with the additional factor of, of time. there's absolutely no reason that any judgment that was valid last month would not be at least equally valid today. we'll leave that,

but the legal arguments and even just a moment, but politically, what can be done to force israel to comply fall this is a decision really that is in the hands of israel's western sponsors, particularly um the united states and the european union. we had a statement today, i believe from the white house indicating that the united states does not want to see any combat. and about 5 over the period of the dawn, which begins and around march tons, because it's concerned about the regional repercussions. but what that into effect does is give israel a green light to continue and even intensify its campaign between now and that day. it's quite clear that if the united states wanted this to come to an end, it would take no more than a phone call from the white house to these early prime minister search. and it would end instantaneously if they've made a choice. they have made a decision,

they have an audiological commitment to israel's campaign. they are supporting it without qualification or reservations. and the consequences are what we're seeing on the ground and what our guest in and the fastest informed us about needs. and they put in london, is it possible from the legal standpoint determined yet whether israel is in breach of the orders issued by the i c j requiring it to take steps to protect palestinians rights and to cease or activities that could constitute genocide? i think it is possible does claim with beth. israel is a breach, but israel's also we are saying that his role is also preparing a legal defense. it's not as the 2 for speakers. no, it's not changing really. it's strategy off the ground. but it's actually

instituting 3 know the, all the interventions to create a defense 1st. it's on check a series of investigation in 2 particular instance where it says may be war, cries is what it carried out. we, we know that from the cost the bees investigations, usually target soldiers, not commanders, and surely about the political leaders as if we look at 2014, after israel killed over 2000 pounds spent and only one investigation went through. and then the 2 soldiers were found guilty of stealing $200.00 pounds. so i don't think these investigations are serious legally their value for. we also see how israel's a pack are united nation and relief and work agency. and the,

the idea behind this attack is also legal by the 1st it wants the claim that meant that much the evidence provided by the south africa in the south african application. it is not true. it is given by un bobby's and like the you what the like, what a rob they to could be some way aligned with the quote unquote terrorist. and therefore we should want to leave this up with this and 2nd, but it's usually. ringback it's application gets the phone rock to stop or is not totally stop, but the type of remember the planetary of the 8th that's coming into the concept strip saying, hey, this is a terrorist organization. we need oops, or uh, what, what is being brought in. and 3rd, uh, we see that there is much less genocidal. excitement empty is really media,

but it's important to to understand that the issue of intent is not only the trips of a b is randy. politicians is by the soldiers. but it is also the kind of actions that is roles painting and so there's also the question of ser special attempts. namely, if these are all tax alpha, it will still be a, a, itself, the applicant will still be able to claim that it is carried out or been tapped. the need just, just briefly, if you can legally then can be done at this stage to force israel to comply. i mean, what are the implications here for the i c j and it's a far as heat. there's a few questions here why lee is that the i c j itself is solely

a judicial arm. it's not an executive barn, but even if tomorrow morning, the i c j. rule done to seize fire or roll that immediately much more humanitarian aid needs to come in for does. the only arm that can make is real. do that with them. the united nations framework is the security council, right. the ice itself as no and portsmouth back it is. it's already talked to that role. and despite the fact that he is probably, and i'm a probably, uh the i see the south africa can uh, apply a den to the b i, c j and say listen, be the situation is getting worse. israel's beginning it's onslaught of off of off . it's much more dangerous. can you issue other measures such as,

was interesting about that. i think although i would say the 1st nations exposures, the only way to comply by that is a 6 of us. the piece of paper, yes, is fine. okay. you're still kind of picking up on, on what they've was saying that you've touched upon it and do it. one of your 1st offices tell us more about the situation on 8 because it is right and says that it is enabling the entrance of humanitarian aid. and because edy's quotes facilitating the transfer, any amount of aid requested the scope of incoming a. it is only limited, it says by the handling capabilities of the u. n. and other agencies in the gaza strip. you were saying though, the best, but no improvement in the delivery of the availability of a dr. the if, unfortunately, a few lots of agents inside, you can see how many trucks are waiting just to be allowed to be in setting that there is a huge problem with the supply chain itself in terms of pay huge where they assist

and do our system. and to clarify the needs that we should come up urgently. and unfortunately we've done our processing providing the aid into gaza that needs usually change before we we are, we have the, the 8th engines in our hands. unfortunately, if you go again, so that jumps inside of the boat and up, you will see that tons of trucks out wait things to be allowed to go inside the process that it's taking really long the amount of trucks. i'm not covering 10 percent of the need in $150.00 to our advantage, be the day. why do we need to be covered at least a 1000 throughout the day? we don't, we never, we didn't reach that number of drugs of 8 subjects into guys that we were spitting, facing sam in, in the no, i know that got that sort of situation in the area. and i know that gets us there and situation and dropbox because we cannot, we are not able to do our role without having the aid. the aid is way,

think when the other side of the board that are waiting to be allowed when a daily basis they have to be, they have to that's actually to be scanned from both side budgets. inside visit a side, we would expect things that off that open and get them shut on that the number of a k trucks would increase, but unfortunately, we didn't see any difference either before or after. and it's i don't think that we need to look about the obligation as a way to, to do that. we need to think about it from a humanitarian perspective. bid is huge. you need that. as i kept us through, it, cries is one of the most complicated guy cries is on the planet. and i think without the allowing 1000 so i could do today. we had to go not face what we had facing guarantee in the nose. and that, that, another thing is that to be highlighted back that issue and rough uh, out of saving, what's going on on that? no, unfortunately, because we didn't have access either for communication information that we found on

the, on the ground to understand exactly what's going on. but with what we receive from relatives, family members or friends from the north. it's heartbreaking when our, our hands are on auto ties. in front of back because we cannot, we don't have the ability to access to the north and by the time does the city to provide that system for 10 minutes we will be talking in depth about about this whole a issue on, on next inside story on the on monday morning rabbani the i c j is old as a test not only of the the, the courts authority but of, of the signatories to the genocide convention. but why the deafening silence from from many of those nations on, on a water pressure, if any, this is rails failure to comply with the cost provision the load is put on the us and other is really allies. well, the court's rulings are binding on all state parties to the genocide convention, and that includes the united states and that includes each and every member state

of the european union. what we've essentially seen since their initial ruling is business. as usual, you take, for example, the netherlands were a number of human rights organizations have sued the dutch government. i'm seeking a court order to order the government to stop supplying spare parts for the is really of $35.00 jets that are raising the gaza strip to the ground. and the court ruled in favor of the government that fits um, reliability as a supplier and as a, as a commercial supplier trumped any other considerations, such as the government's obligations under, on the side convention on monday. so there will be an appeal of, of this initial belong and it will be very interesting to see if this time the courts decide that to yes,

the genocide convention does apply not only um to adversaries anatomies of the west, but to western governments. um, as well, in terms of the united states. so i think we have to recognize how deeply ideologically committed president biden and his most senior aides are to and his really victory. but the real issue with this real is not what is real is doing to palestinians. but what is real is not doing to policy and is in other words, israel's failure to achieve a military victory against a pulsing and armed organizations. that is really the only significant difference between washington and the israeli government and, and as professor gordon said, the i c, j does not have enforcement mechanisms. and what we've seen is western governments essentially acting as if that are free to ignore their obligations. visa v as real, and it's a genocidal campaign and the gaza strip. they've gotten bought just the law say

about countries like the u. s. who hold influence of israel countries, but they're also signatories to the genocide convention, one of their responsibilities on the international. but you certainly cannot be complicit with genocide and i think with millions showed and said is that there are several countries now that have been complicit with israel's genocide or violence both by supply weapons and money and by supplying political support. and i, i know that there are several lawyers about preparing a capes against the united states and the u. k. governments or complicity. i know that the foreign office in, in, in the u. k. has expressed serious concerns about

israel was committed war crimes in the gaza strip at a time when the u. k. government continues to transfer weapons to be as well. i think these apartments need to also be careful and these leaders need to be careful, but the history will not judge them as being thus taking part in, in, in, in one of the worst genocide on the 21st century. yes. if i'm not sure what your, your message to the will be right now on, on this issue of whether or not israel is complying with the i. c j is orders. is that a guy? it is a, is it a lead? not being appliance of value c, j. what the new commitment to the world needs as an international community to do that role. unfortunately, since the beginning of this world, we didn't see any an action for that on the board of lead. the us as the then the etc, as i come through who was leading that?

well, unfortunately we are not seeing the efforts towards stopping that's what's going on . and what's that, what's going, what's taking place in god is in human, and we don't see an action from the community. and we'll do that once again. we are failing and as i mentioned, community is failing, goes as fast as spinning and hearing bows. are we from that and nothing community to that investigated to concept the night of nation. now the i c j, i think that no more efforts can be done for palestinians, and that was the last step that could be done towards design to save the lives of fellow citizens and goes on to this madness. and we don't see at election. and unfortunately, they have to send a had very responsibilities because we wouldn't hit this one is the best. okay, in front of us on the history, it's in the body. what are the implications and for the as really political establishment on, on deciding whether to comply or not with the course professional orders. and as is israel ministry in lock step here with the government or is,

or is there some on the use in the ministry are i'm sure there is a news at the level of both political and military leadership, a news about being put under scrutiny. and i think on these, at the tremendous moral and political loss that they have incurred by now being found to be plausibly committing genocide, particularly given that as real as so reliance on the good will of western public opinion. and much of that support comes from the image of israel as being somehow reparations for the nazi holocaust. um now are as real as associated with genocide as a perpetrator and not only is the victim so this will have severe, long term consequences. but i think in the present moment, i think these really leadership isn't really looking at the fine points of the law . it's not even looking at the hague. nothing. yeah. who was very clear that he

won't be affected by anything coming out of the hague. in terms of this military campaign. he's looking at washington, and he's looking at brussels. those are his political one for that matter, legal terms of reference. and it will be on the basis of what emanates from those 2 capitals. he will decide what he will and will not do next. they have to do to pick up on what one was saying. the israel, of course, has a history of pushing the limits of international law or i, i wonder, to what extent israel's governess is, is circumventing its own domestic legal system to justify its, its actions in gaza as well. we have not seen a substantial increase in humanitarian that's demanded by the court. we have not seen a significant change and the repertoire is of violence deployed as the guys and the decrease in the killing of civilians. indeed, i think we wears the same level of civilian death as we saw before the work truly

somebody. yeah, it's a contraband ship. what after we have not seen any in dire need of investigation, of those inciting, genocidal violence forgiveness divided by the court. so it's really government, i think has been assigned to that in many ways. it is going to ignore the code or we do the legal establishment, as i pointed out earlier, preparing a legal defense. but i think we also have to remember that in that time, you know, has and personal interest to continue with this more of the palestinian people because he knows that the minute he will start this more then he will be under immense investigation. and they is rarely public will demand his resignation. so the only uh, uh, what is keeping the yeah,

well actually in power is the war. and therefore he is saying as i think we've got bonnie said before. but despite what the international community said, despite what the court said, despite the been what the president of the united states have said, he's going on and instructing the military to go into the 2 rough. and so i think there is now a kind of a clash between a certain legal establishment within israel, but the still respect o'six v i v i c j. and i'm the political and military living leadership. it was all right, that gentleman, i'm afraid we're going to have to read that many thanks to your use of how much more and rabbani and they've gotten. as always, thanks for watching, you can see the program again at any time by going to the website. i'll just here

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