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it's an ethical a i, there's a racial bias is getting worse. you get more of those in power. are the ones with the resources to decide where it's used. how do we change this paradigm? studio b, b, a r series on a jersey to worldly those claims whether they have pushed him to the death of his most outspoken critic will the unexplained tossing and prisons of alexi and evaluate change. anything in russia or when the voices of the sent to come to afraid to challenge the power of a trumpet. this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program. i'm adrian instead of good. he was respected world wide and loving it puts ins, most vocal critic despite being locked up for years in a prison cell. that's the voice of defend was silenced as russia announced the
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death of alexi and of i'll need the country's highest profile position. lita was 47 . well leaders have been quick to blame, puts in for getting rid of yet another russian who dare to challenge and the crime . and this describing that reaction as unacceptable and rabbit russians will get to choose where the pollution is re elected for 5th of next month. the votes already widely viewed as a full going conclusion, given the lack of opposition, voices allowed to oppose his long rule. so who might ever replace and what does, what like a free speech mean for future opposition? voices in russia, and how will russians remember alexis of all the lower con, begins, are coverage. this is the last time alex seen a valid he was seen live in public by video link from his present cell, the russian optic russian president vladimir persians. most of the cool, quick look good, but up beat off to spending 3 years of
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a 19 year sentence. and once he said, what politically motivated challenges ever, he predicted that his descent would lead to his demise? no, i think it was just that what you're not allowed to give up. if it killed me, it means that we are incredibly strong. the carrots magic and the corruption come pay. the rose to providence during protests against putting in 2011 in 2013 the body runs in the most go upon the presidential campaign in 2016 that ended when he was convicted of fraud. in 2020, he felt ill. the flight was evacuated to germany, where he spent 2 weeks in a coma lab test said he'd been poisoned by the nerve agent, novick chalk developed by russia's military. the kremlin denied responsibility. he recovered and flew hello. even though the 2021 to be immediately arrested violating his perot. and it was a 100 percent on medical pro breach
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a shot now pretty to so i knew obviously nobody to test somebody. she was very bright smotts, the sort of sense of humor, the test on that. i'm quite pretty that she did not speak about his family to my condo, also to microsoft use front of it. but now if she is what i did not political cigarettes, divine these debt was announce as well. they just met the munich security conference in germany. russia wasn't invited, but his wife judy of was a, gave a composed respond. you soon probably solve just about i want to quote on the international community, all the people in this room who lives in the world to unite together and defeat this evil defeat the her, if it crazy him that is now in russia. well, theaters were quick to play, boots had pressure, authorities are going to tell their own story, make no mistake, make no mistake. putting his responsible front of on his desk,
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putting is responsible to develop these death follows the killing of all the uprooting critics. alex on the lifting, young co accuse putin of putting a musket apartment building as an excuse to stop the chechen war in 1999, the full, the russian spy was killed in london in 2006 all to drinking radioactive t. pushing to night and the link and the of his critics bullet prime minister boys never saw who joined opposition. protests was shot dead in moscow in 2015 and full of hooting like you get a precaution, criticized the always trustee of the war. and you, craig, he was killed to the plane crash last august, weeks of the leading, what, putting called an on mutiny and saw the russia put in his running for re election next month. a change of rules means that the 71 year old could stay in pilot until 2036. with the validus death questions will be race of whether puts in will ever be
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challenged. although it's not clear how the valley died at the age of $47.00 this, this will doubt that all the opposition figures will fear a symbol of fate. laura, on the inside story, i'll just 0. the alright, let's bring it now. i guess from moscow which wind by letting me a celtic off who is an associate professor of international relations at the high school in economics university from london with joined by samuel romani and associate fellow at the royal united services institute. that's defense and security. think time kind of joining us from study as capital. they'll grade is piece a nicotine, a russian pro democracy x vista lawyer will welcome to old gentleman peter. let's start with you, your, your thoughts on the death of alexi, the vanity of what it means for russia's pro democracy movement. where does it go from here? of this, this is a, this is a writer trying to do for,
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for roches. eventually, for many of the people who knew a lot of and supported the chain originally, we had about us from paying the astronomy here in belgrade yesterday, where people came with foreigners and either candles and houses and uh, and where. and uh, it was really as though we lost uh a deer for some uh, where does it go from here? um, it depends on whether we as a pro democracy russians, both factors is 10 beautiful people, ordinary people are, are going to follow what i like say said to us when he was asked what we should do if he gets killed. he said, don't be law. uh, if this happens, this means that there a week and we have to just work harder and test
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louder. if we do not know who, when you, when you move from is great. if you will have to give them there's a lot of something. some of the romani, your thoughts on the death of alexi, the boundary of what it means for the future of democracy in russia. well, i mean, is obviously one of the final blow. so whatever is left through democracy inside russia, because novalis that, that did not occur in a vacuum, even before the russians were scale invasion to be grand began in february 2022. so society organizations were facing severe crackdowns. human rights groups like memorial were shut down and since the innovation lucy environment kind of looks at me to similar fate returning to russia having 25 years in prison, lea ashan also being right down upon and other dissidence. so this is a major blow to democracy inside russia and also represent cyber who has brought a strategy. i'm pressing down to the 2 phases of national as opposition,
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the liberal nationalist, anti corruption campaign in the valley. and also the alternation was the vision. ivan virginia progression and now i think that is relatively unchallenged heading into these elections. samuel is, is, is rushing out to a tyler terry in state on my feet states. well i think it's certainly been about being saved for quite a long time when you see the associations of people, a gods, and you live in, yank out 2006. describe my voice and i bought a samsung business day that clearly does not have much respect for the rule of law when it comes to you who know some of this or i guess i just use leader. i'm so glad you're offering, but now i think it's not just the matthew states also dietary. and what i think that after the elections, we will see move i, the construction of $400000.00 new soldiers into the russian military occur most likely with that protest and with that backlash and in further reuben towards the world economy. ok, let's bring in a lot about russia is now not just the matthew state,
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but have to tell it terry and state. what do you make of that and, and what's your take on the depth of alexi and of only oh, thank you. well, thank you very much for having you and your show just the whole. let me disagree with the previous speaker with central, because i think of russia is loved the southern states. if you just compare the history, this is what lifestyle, etc. we have for we have democracy, we have democratic institutions to be of the russian. secondly, what my 3rd to vote for the death of all way. you know, i'm afraid that i met can briefly. exactly 4 years ago when i was getting an interview, a full fledged interview for us continued to the west to the company to cnn. i wasn't so much as breakfast pick. i wasn't so much impressed the backups you were saying, but i saw in his office because the interview took place in his office only of a bit. okay. this is uh uh from the. busy finding a fighting corruption, i saw
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a lot of young people who have very much is disaster and that's up to myself, i thought, but okay, probably this guy is a professional politician. and the place he has a goal, a goal to what he's trying. so yeah, if to just for the talking about is that i think i can agree with the all the speakers, but this is really a tragedy. lead a treasure live for political fox in the rush of this is a tragedy. gus will try me like his family for the children as probably as all the future which are still unclear. yeah. okay, well we'll throw this back to samuel just about that but, but, but maybe it was, was alex in the valley view, different lead you think that in russia to the way that he was viewed in the west as uh yes, yes. i think that's actually what the, what the, what the, what they, they're, what i heard in his interview. he was proposing the program, which should really i for the fun, the actual uh very well because, you know,
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there were some slogans as a, as i think. and at the same time, he was suggesting some specific. gotcha. let me say one thing. i think i think that a russian society, especially all the people, they are not getting used to steal to any drastic changes at all the, the, uh, the, the whole bomb like right now when, when she died is thinking about how to move this you the keys own when well believe, well being that and just to see that they have to box and then address the got sounds like a dissent and a dissenting brush. and at the same time, i must say to the, to my mind, i think his story in the any attempt to descend in russian history was never very much successful. if you take the countries and then go to souls in need some and all that, all the people who were in the search and saw it in this sense. i think that the,
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i will say that the future is unclear because i don't know who actually will be doing watch in the future because the so called pro democracy groups. uh uh, they call themselves well democracy. uh, anyway, but uh, this is a long story to uh, suggest something tangible for reference the site. somebody was able to come back on that wasn't the volunteer. and what he represented someone who truly both the president puts into the extent that he would want him dead secretary of state anthony blinking. so the fruits and how to fix ation on see of one mind to on the school the week. lesson ross at the heart of the system that pollution has created . is he right? what danger did the valley post a pollutant? one of only definitely was one of the most tenacious, and one of the most dedicated activists in terms of exposing the corruption this around is library system as well as some of the access. does that mean?
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i mean, he was certainly important and inspiring the demonstrations of the f, like real fraud and 25 black man square, which some of the last major demonstrations. he also was helpful in inspiring demonstrations against students, domestic agenda and not be implemented for and exposing the direction to senior officials. i give it to you by, by the average man even contributed to his reassignment from the prime minister position into the national security council. so he certainly was somebody who had the ability to mobilize, people rattled, and even the times induced concessions right now in person. it's hard to see him being got so much of a truck, but he did continue to express as use on twitter, on regular videos and regular at the antenna. so, and also through his team or him. right. and maybe it's just part of it was broad desire to find down on all forms of defend ahead of the mar, free $24.00 elections to prevent liver on her desk and also to prevent, alter nationals interest which is why you're getting every goshen. are off the scene here,
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peter deal to respond to what you've heard from letting me and samuel before i put a question to you as well. yes, i would like to make the point. i heard the words have lived in there about democratic institutions in russia, and before this program started, i also heard those words on the 17th of march, russians will have a realtor given the decisions that is not true there. there are no democratic institutions in russia. there is no judicial system, there is no final amend. already about 10 years ago the chairman of the russian duma game came with those famous words. this thing to model parliament is not a place for discussions. and that's how we never since it's 100 percent book and supporters, millions of people who are against this policy are represented. they're not allowed to to speak up. they're not allowed to run for elections. and they're,
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and when they vote in elections, there, roads are stolen and read. so i would like to speak directly to, to, to your viewers. and those we're seeing this do not believe that when, after the 17th of march, se, and headlines russians have elected booked them again. but it is not trash. it doesn't represent russia. russia is not a democracy in any way. it's a dictatorship and that's how i should use. okay, i'll be back with you in just a 2nd, pete up, but we're going to give me a right to reply to that. russia is in no way a democracy, bloody man. well i, i had the right now i had what was, uh, no, it will say actually you know, uh the c c special point of view. you know, i mean, uh that the, she uh has mistaken in many things. i think it's just a fault. uh, it looks uh from the, uh, what you saw, the show it looks like, well leading to all the way to getting the slavery my, my stuff and let myself,
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i know i, i don't think that i'm living in this letter. right. i can, i can type actions of my thoughts so i can the with to west through some way as far as prime ministers speaking. well, no homework doesn't move on to fighting them and to be on to restore peace in the south in the north and all over the country such a victory, what citizens of as right. you have the book to and i ordered one of the have the, and this a bravery i would like to talk about such a heroism this evening and i saw no sort of hold on. i just don't know how us like the irony or the
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one of them a little bit to meet in the eyes. and he said to mister prime minister, we must, we must continue until the end. these all the same words and with these words of head did from all the families of the victims book to resort or be doing, i used to pull me up with i'm being tested legs without exception on the move. them said, we must continue on comes the end until we eliminate how much we will re qualify, and we will continue to fight our water enemies and defending our country. citizens of israel, as you know, we have an excellent generation and we have a debt to and with such an effort, we will continue our water fighting until we achieve and be more objective there
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this week in an amazing special forces operation. we have brought back to captives to their families. i may have met with these warriors. so then with us, our heroes as well. i was in the command force. it was, it was the decisive moment. a moment where it was the cutting between failure data and the success and within seconds i've heard someone say say that we got the captives and every one was happy to to see if such from you is a that is, was high. i have all that such alteration because i believe in a water warriors i believe in their brave for the unprofessionalism. when i met with them, are you hug them? i embrace them. i told them you are the best fighters in the world. the people of israel are proud of you. i want
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a policy to liberate and bring back the captives. it is military pressure. and on 10 and now this what we have done and we haven't brought back 100020 of them . we shall continue on till we bring back all the captives negotiations required to spend fast this. i might have to say to the people that is right in up to this moment, how much demands are ridiculous. i'm assuming i'm, they mean only one thing is a mean that they mean defeat to as the right. yeah. once her mass compromises and give concessions on such demands, we can make progress. and i would like to say to the families of the captives we, we shall not forget our commitment to bring back to the captives. and i would like to say one word for those people who have been evacuated from the south. the government affairs that i is committing is committed to bringing you back to your
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home. so we will achieve this either politically or militarily. we have only one message assigned to all water. any means in near and far on the path for gaming a water rise. we are paying a higher price with the heroes who have fallen in the back. the field, the battle. the top is the people of is right. you need you. this is not a multitude of it. we must be able to fight to all what n n e and to protect to the state of as an are you say i'm to albert, i'm to use citizens of as it is, we will not stop until we eliminate the our enemy, those people who,
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who give the ultimate sacrifice are continued their operations the over the past the days we have been able to teach 2 sites and locations of high miles and try. we will not stop until we implemented the entire organization all time us until we achieve decisive victory. we must have an admin aid to the cheats of high mass who are running from one place to another we, we've closed our water decisive, vic, tv with them. this is only a matter of time. i've spoke with president biden every day we communicate with the heads of states all around the world, and we continue to stress the fact that we shall continue fighting until decisive history. this will include also the a whole party ition only after we enable there is
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a dentist to be removed the for to safe area. and so i will not to see the color process. we are leading the political process. this enables us to grant those freedom of movement 5 months is a, this has never happened in the history of is that i the wars and i would like to say this is not a done deal. we are achieving such accomplishments. would be your turn to you, the people of as right. you know, we must compromise under any pressure because we are people of heroes or we wouldn't shun, not compromise because we, we love life. we are committed to eliminate things evil and we shall not step down to the notion of dictates with it a god as the future did with the senior. and i would like to edit that and emphasize this, this evening. such a compromise shouldn't be through direct unconditional negotiations as
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an ideal, we'd continue with the an item that a technician offer for the c in the state, unilaterally the how can we get a technician to such to stay at the office of the most, that kind of of october, the southern this would be at a war total reason to follow citizens or is it a we are on the path to what is the history of what a fighters demand this, the families of the last one is demand this, the entire people of incident in on demanding this until we achieve victory, we must, we must be united, not the temporary or enter, i'm giving it to you. but the unit, the when i met with the hero fighters, those in good in, in hospitals. i saw such a unity amongst them. and i understood the such high morale that is very hard to describe. i have met such heroes,
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i spoke to them and the such high morale. what about the most, those kind of to of thought i live at the hospital. what the, how does on the whole, you know, pop under? so what about if the default on the go 9, a hero who was lost in battle? the model you said was off and how did you meet with the prime minister already? yes, he stood on his legs and he shouted, he said, who are you or you are talking about the pension you are, you are causing division. i embrace him and i embrace and salute to all what a heroes. and i would like to say to a interview, dionte he, that those who called for the vision unity should embrace all the people of incident here and majority of people they want community for victory. such anything
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except the why such a unity is in the pattern in the fight thing in rafa i saw an eclipse on areas of the nation. we shall fight them together. we shall prevail. questions on a new mother. and my question is, so why have you decided not to talk to gams, regarding your decision not to send a delegation to cairo negotiations, why such a decision about the answer? so i use such a decision of type muscle as right. engage in negotiations to no avail, but to be good, some silly things from how mouse and 3 the requests and control over the on the quotes to see is the war until the lee
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is uh, thousands of present. now there's a weird objective such conditions and demands. so i decided to send a delegation to president biden, and i told him that this is something pre arranged and it has been agreed on the water cabinet goal. i'm missing and there was no change, not, not a thing guilty, millimeters of change. they didn't budget or they didn't compromise any of such demos on. on on 10 we see i change on i believe this is the light way of managing negotiations through the water cabinet that i would like to say that the am managing the negotiations. we need to initiate to gain something during the talk with president biden's through mr. biden stated through the wall
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street journal, but i'm the mother of a the, a mother. if i can do that on that slide, i'm pretty much all affinity. if a look for you, i had the you can on the bottom line is every 1 may express their view point to undermine need dealership. i'm even in the war council. we work with the president of them. i just based on with the us administration. we appreciate the support, then we have many other agreements, but we do not agree on everything. my policy is simple. we don't intervene in the american politics on when it's possible to say yes, i would say yes, su offers the underwater points and the overlay. you can, i know also find out i just have, you know,
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people tend to be done in your for previously you said that we can't agree to the, the budget deficit and mood is have reduced is that is the ratings which could impact on the us to increase so such a deficit. my question on the did you do talk about it is a ratings of, of the recent 2 years. so do you intend to introduce any changes to the 2024 budget so that we can have better rate things to stop such a recession? and so i don't believe there is any. it caught a mix fairly at all. what i caught them extending is good with regards to the war. and they deduction in uh what if anything, not for economic reasons, but the due to the warranty. once we prevail in this was such a thing would increase immediately. and also would like to say that such estimates
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are a result of the war. that's why we must prevail and you will see that the 18 got off the victory would climb up a game in a day or 2 after reducing the great thing that was uh, demand and we buy a button on the other. uh oh, do you have the address? and they said that uh what a standing is good. this is one of the month when i click on that month, but i would like to hear you at least bonus to the statement of the administer the keys or her and with regards to the cost of the war model. these claims come from the elite code, not all live from the opposition. there is a date for the elections,
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and i suggest that we shouldn't discuss this method during the war. it's important to handle the war. now on the wish, you didn't go into this political output actions at this moment. this is something we must stand, you allow you to do. and then we have enough power to eliminate the power of how much would the regard as to the substitute as we must destroy there on the ground. and for us to act on we must we must exist concerted efforts.

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