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that time violations of human rights, individual and collective. but assuming human rights is the one that's paving the way of allowing and deepening and hold on lies ation. the legal colonizer should supplement. it's also allowing and deepening racism by the colonizers and it's also perpetuating the confiscation of land illegal grabbing of land speed, the gland, and the direction of a part aid system where all of these elements of violence, of hatred, racism violence come together to create a lopsided system of jewish control over the palestinians, separate but an equal right? so i think making those arguments on how occupation list to the denial of such that the munition of a paper which is there in the right to control deadlines and to control their
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destiny. how it denies them freedom, all sorts of freedom and how it exacts on them. personal and collective cost, in terms of denials, of basic freedoms into them. so peter and torture and set in, in terms of developing their economy, developing their prosperity on their land. one of the things that i mentioned before was the fact that ultimately this will result in a known finding ruling. now, we tend to be very skeptical when we hear the words known binding. because in the pasta as, as some we have months or was outlining and the previous lawyers as well that there have been several of these in the past that have been released by the united nations in israel. and on most occasions has chosen to ignore them. what do you think could be different this time? right? i think you're absolutely right about the cynicism of our international system whereby it does boast of international law. but at the same time,
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when it comes to applying to international law, it's always blocked by the nature of geo politics, as it were. so when you are a nation that is not exactly losing a war or of your occupation, and you are supported by a block that is powerful in the global scene, such as the united states and europe. then the, the degree or the possibility of the portray and therefore accountability becomes almost impossible, right? but here we've heard that you need accountability in order to achieve justice. i need justice touches piece. so in fact, without accountability of the sort that we are beginning to witness today at the i c, j, you will never have justice on hand space. now, the importance here is of course, all of these legal proceedings must lead somehow to some political or geo political
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change. and i think the political change is going to come, not from necessarily the united nations security council, because we're know that the united states off, you know, great britain but, and so on. we'll probably block in veto. but secondly, to work on from the cost of public just public opinion around the world. it will also come from local courts in various, you know, countries on the national level. and i think it will start putting huge pressure on countries that normalize relations with israel. that a 4th is rather favorable, status is in terms of economic and otherwise and also that sells them arms arms that are used against the palestinians to reinforce the occupation in the west bank, gaza on the status of the so i would think for example, that's just one out of many, the question of boy on the investment, certainly when it applies to the west bank, east jerusalem on guys that's coming through now, fisher huge. if the court
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a firm is what we all know, that the occupation after 6 decades is a legal. that's what has been legitimate in terms of is the practices in palestine are also clearly transparently illegal modeling. thank you very much of the model. number sharp. i was just as senior political analyst, ninety's a little polished settings, have enjoyed the hardships of israel's occupation for generations. while each person might experience different struggles. the theme is similar. it's a one of alonda fast lives lost and time spent waiting near him and thoughts from the occupied westbank home usually means safety and security for this palestinian family. it's the opposite, surrounded by illegals. really supplements threatened by increasing attacks by samplers also helps the font tells us his family is left with no choice but to lock
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themselves in money doesn't. and that's what i like. we can keep the house. i don't want my sister's got mad and then i couldn't even go to the wedding's dot org was hovering around. he says it's really settlers want them out so they can move in. but this is the only home they own. and the only time they know they call themselves the guardians of the hill. the boy we've been here before this that there's my grandfather built the house in the 1970s. then my father and mother inherited it. we are here protecting it as well. and we'll pass it onto our kids. since 1967, israel has been establishing illegals supplements on hilltops. over time, they expand at the expense of palestinians also fond farm, and he says they will not leave little home on the hill for them. this is how the experience is really military occupation, violent attacks, illegals documents, and land grabs. let's now move to the center of the occupied to us back in columbia
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. few jacob, we're for one family. the occupation means tragic losses of life and it was a bitter sweet moment. when sammy's new brand son was born in 2005, they named him. yes, if after his uncle who was killed by his really forces 4 years before. oh and the general had done so we wanted him to bring joy to the house. i was heavy. he was born in jordan and i traveled to meet him. but in 2023 and just a few weeks before turning 18. yes, it was buried in the same grief site as his name say, booth killed by the same army. that not only them, sammy son, sam, and mohammed were also killed by his really forces in 20022015. you want to switch not bring trigger into this life to die, but to live we want to be able to live in peace and have a good life. i lost my sons when do
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a very young. they were 1115 and 17 years old. nope, every palestinian hominy shares this heavy loss of life. but the few patients still sick, so it's all on people, one way or another. let's go now to have her on the sounds of the occupied to us bank and see how life there has been brought to a whole once brimming with life and a bustling economy. life is fading away in the last city of her. now it's a mere echo of what it once was that how did he get in the market? said that no visitors, no foreigners. we don't find customers for the goods we buy and are in debt for the 75 year old sales pending fee is local artisans, a symbol of the cities rich cultural heritage. in this ahead a i've been here for 17 years and i keep thinking that if we get a bit better instead of every year it gets worse and worse people us get their
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humiliated the checkpoints so they have for this very whole together. this one is something here and however on the economy capital of the occupied to us bank, the cities still has a few hours before it goes to see people are shopping and working with the sun has set way earlier in the old city of hebron paused indian c, time 2 is a victim of occupation. lost in cues, alternative routes, checkpoints, enclosures times, toes and from a nation stuck in waiting need that. but he edges ita the occupied westbank, a evans joining us not from life from bethlehem. and they occupied last by we were just telling us just a few stories, how far life is being affected by these really occupation. but clearly the, it is very wide spread that are tens of thousands of lives like to tell the same story. yes, and we're standing here in front of one of the manifestations of israel's occupation,
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which is the is where the separation wall that has been built across the occupied territories. and in v v i c, j has issued and done by the advisory rulings similar to the case that we've been hearing today when it comes to the wall itself. we were talking about it's being built on occupied territory. is it taking a lot? and it said that the court said that this role should come from save the people who are been damaged because of the building of the word said that all the manifestations of it should be removed when it comes to the check point, the gays and what have you, i mean these, we've been seeing paula city is even long after the decision has been made. we're now talking about 22nd 20 years officer and still you see paula city is cannot access their lives because of as well. separation. well, you know what everyone, what have a different story with israel's occupation. the female is clear,
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it's about control. it's about fear. it's a lot people not being able to go about the daily lots without the occupation control and every little detail, every single aspect of their lives. you know, one of the things we often talk about. 1 living on the confusion is that is real controls the population registries. so for example, if someone falls in love with someone who's from abroad, those people would not have the wife to reside here and live here with their spouses, with their palo simeon lubbers. so you can imagine how the occupation is entrenched result often a vote check points about calls about it, killings and injuries and ways. but also when it comes to the simplest details of the palestinians lives, the occupation is there to be a patient is presence. let me tell you that we've been finding all across the occupied respect to prepare the report you've just watched. and we've been noticing a similar theme among false to me is that the resilience that have said fastness,
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they, they say we have no other country to go to it. we have no other place. yes, we are under occupation. yes. what is suffering from it, but we're here to say we're going to bring more kids and teach them to loved this land and stay honest. nato. thank you very much indeed. knew the ever him in the occupied was fine. we're going to go to the occupied east, jerusalem to speak to roll. the challenge needed was describing what the conditions are like in the occupied why spine tell us what to be is really influenced by the impact of use. really actions is like where you are hold that approximation is entrenched here in east jerusalem is entrenched and policy is entrenched in legislation that is in trends in the lived experience of palestinians on a, on a daily basis. during that time, 1968 a year off to that 6, they will where israel took control of the palace, the entire trees, to the cadillac. who is teresa adams matter of the times that if this city is to be
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all capital, then we have to make it an integral part of our country. and we need jewish and habits and to do that in 1980 when the recent law was passed, which basically formalize the attic sation of the series name. it said that theresa them complaints in united is the capital of israel. so it is a policy today all using palestinian neighborhoods all east jerusalem. i'm not a spouse there on a day day to day basis here. if you're a young palestinians, you are often stopped in search by police. you can be arrested or on very flimsy grounds. if the is ready to save that, to be some sort of security threats, you can be blocks from going to allow access to pray at the most that because again, these are these to see that to be a security threat. there were restrictions on the flying a policy and flags. uh there are restrictions on products, etc. restrictions on really just separations,
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whether that be some product settings, christine, or palestinians who are mostly hands out of city and say it or don't be if i histories and them all essentially considered foreigners. they have to have a, a blue id which, you know, if that gets taken away, if i decide that i want to adhere to the action policies and this can be consul confiscates. and that makes life extremely difficult for anyone who needs one of these to get around. and then of course, you have the issue. hall's settlements, if you have the issue of land to procure a pro creations. that's the, the architecture ready of by which many if they've kind of right. so that's about us and you should have a strict away from them. and we can hand out from a settlement expert who uh, took out of that around sue one which is kind of the neighborhood of lucky bodies to re slim. that is gradually being stretched back and i'm proud of sidney, right? so being a right is that to see i'm have somebody talk to somebody in the town who i was cut
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off to somebody in the wall just a moment. the dispute listed on gives me lee of the outside of a handful of the media. if you enough to last effect the fee, i would generate a sort of cd will be tested, but there are many didn't have them a state that i love you. so i have talked to somebody last about too many been me amendments that have to put some stuff to like those c office about 15. yeah. how many of the outside i'm 30 a month like i have not had i'm the police a list, go up the street but police and a handful of to me. i've been with some of the comments as part of this, the funding, you know, if he, if he definitely a handful of the new. so my money to speak to how we a here and for us to new york. beautiful is to me i for safety. certainly definitely, yeah. i know who the luminous, yes, if the g or what, how many to meet or how many of their little then we'll get off if you saw that had this really managed. i had the, and i'm really to me a hell of a sudden, quiet salon will have that hate the money with the money in bit there. mind that the we have them have be strictly and come in with the use of gun a little sooner than other than some of the people who are the who we had that how
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you be strictly and come in the faith of this. all right, leo and shot mode, click on it. so how long will could this have to unlock different obviously for lee and wish i had them? oh, who didn't feel comfortable? i even love how many if they hadn't been, been as if you had been a month to ha and the district and can we have had many to many of the most with their feet. i didn't want to allow me to come out of the model for them on the i bought on content other than the be not. yeah. i mean, how many tell them then how the numbers you this about, you know, all this to my mind. be a little bit off. you saw the had it so like really well thought a to come for the city. the, the size of the inside of my be in a, a, a, a, a, a, a month to so that will be a month depending on who the fees. nothing will cut a year. and then we will have for the month of, uh a who, the leticia mosley, the credits of the one who, another company that, that the little golfing it comes with the account. and then once i come in, but i will pop it and then come and come out to show you doing if you had the for the, the for the to the one. now when you get the idea, no matter what the issue,
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we have the month to helping them out for the month of the who, the lucky. okay. and let's be definitely a handful of cynthia and you said albany at the jamal law, we couldn't make if i left and went up to the lift. he texted them in the stomach and it's so easy for you, definitely. but it's in one side as he can see her restrictions on expression restrictions on process the policies of land, appropriation, demolition of homes that price. it policy is based on race and religion. what it amounts to essentially is, is a wholesale denials of palestinian rights to self determination in all the parties to reset them. busy thank you very much indeed. really challenge talking to this problem occupied east too. so i'm going to go to the guys and step where honey mama is standing. standing by honey. there was a recent feeling by the international criminal court that said,
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israel must prevent the genocide and gaza, but the attacks are being continuing. you and the teams have been reporting on the is there any hoping guys that the i c j rolling on this case might actually change anything on the well and so far as palestinians across the gaster were given the options of listening to more talks or, and immediate into what's going on there will definitely do is that immediate and all the genocide, a lack then into all or acts and get back to their normal life as they had it before. it was over a 7 soul sparks. this is only a b, i a non binding advisory opinion. it's not going to change much on the ground. these really monitor is still in full control of the entire territory that i'm here talking. not only about gaza, but the entire was bank as we heard of from the reports of from the. 3 from the our colleagues in the west bank at what's going on right now. we're talking about
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a 56 years of brutal, military occupation across the palestinian territories since the 1967 on addition to that there. there is also 16 years of ongoing, suffocating a blockade over the gaza strip that, that literally it's controlled every aspect of people's life in the gall, this for a bit dictates how the lived, their life, where the live, where to study and who, to whom they marry it's a cause, it causes the great devastation to gaza, economy, satanic review, why the spread of destruction, and leaving an entire population. it was cut off from the rest of the world, the military occupation. and the blockade together have turned to gauze a new one entire a concentration camp, where there are so many restrictions on the ins and outs of it,
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we're talking about dropping by pressing that's for, for people to travel from get to the outside world that has been very limited, even before the world, many restrictions of peoples mobility from here to the outside world. but when it comes to the commercial, the crossings kind of upside even crossing where there's really monetary in impose what it described in one of its military officials, a statement, a dietary system for the people in gaza where it's only allowed certain amounts of food to get yeah, and then all of searching kind of a fruits or certain kind of food supply to get in because the remaining, whatever is left is luxury that palestinians in the guys are, should not enjoy it. even when it comes to traveling by palestinians. and guys that cannot even think for a plan for a vacation or travel elsewhere because for those really military, that's a luxury that policy that should not enjoy. and that's why there's so many restrictions imposed on them as a travel that like that takes half days is likely to take months. here i didn't
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both many, many things including a travel coordination. so, so far what we're looking at right now this with this genocide of work going on, it's a combination of both the occupation as well as the ongoing, suffocating a blockade. so got us to this point right now. and so now i've moved into the, in the gaza strip. honey, thank you. the 2 days are totes on the ongoing crisis and i've done this time have just wrapped up here in kata. it's all about the latest. didn't attend the meeting, you on member states on special envoys and i've done a song. we've been discussing engagement with the taliban government and deliveries of humanitarian aid. while following the meeting, you and the secretary general antonia gutierrez's, spoke about the roadmap to achieve peace and stability. and how kind of time, what do we?
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well, a forgotten is done in peace, peace, speed itself and peace with its neighbors. are able to assume the commitments and the international obligations of a sovereign states and the at the same time, the doing so we relation to the international community, the other countries of its neighbors. and these ration to the rights of its own population. and that's the 2nd time enough to have your son fully integrated. you know, all the mechanisms, political, economic, the evidence, evidence, national community. this is the objective, the end gate. first, the need, the for, i've gotten you start not to be in the hot bed of the terrorist activities. that's a impact on other countries. seconds. the
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vision that i've got is the weaving close the solutions in which it's diverse groups. we have those back subjects by student side as they all seem to be presented in the states that she is truly inclusive. so it's a concern about the respect of human rights and then particularly the rights of women and girls. so we can see that that's easy, essential to revoke the decisions that do not the law goes to be in secondary and tertiary school and do not allow women to effectively work in the majority of the professions and then the a consent. but at the same time moves the recognition of the problem and as maids construction to the questions of the trafficking and the rock booty vision in
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a moment of we're going to be live and i've got a sound that i call responded to some of the age of 8, 1st of i'm going to get more on that meeting from russell set up here. and though ha, i'm unable to address their painting. i'll kind of broad picture of what the you and, and others would like to achieve was i've got to sign them with the toddler. but did he gave any indication of more practical efforts to try to get things moving well, indeed, simply the costs of stores here was that every question or the, every drug on his death was trying to get an answer for the question was why kind of bond is not she and without tiny band, whether these working groups is going to achieve anything at all. so i also asked jim how they're going to move forward with that tell me about being present. and also that the reports some report suggest that there hasn't been a poor part of communication between do and working group and the taliban. so he said that totally by and came up with some of the demands that will not accept on it. and we're not acceptable such as excluding all the other actors in this meeting
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. and he said that if this is about the communication level, profit can put up for communication. so next time she's going to make sure that they have a perfect communication with them. so she said that the working groups here, the special one boys on, i've gotten this done. they have very agreed on several stuff. however, there are couple of teams that they're still stock. one of them is that they've got to stand remain with a government that's not practical nice by the international government industry shall be got instead of resume is not improved. and also that the governments in charge to the bond is not improving the inclusive, at the end, to confidently say that now they're alongside this special invoice meeting coordination with redo. and they're also going to come up with a contact group made or some assess another small group who contact group that is particularly attended by the neighboring companies to keep the communication
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channels with the button on all the relate to the act. there is also a forward and the said that in that sense they are going to prepare for the next meeting to prepare the conditions for the next meeting. i particularly this contact group is going to play a crucial role in that he has been asked also whether or not that has been a divorce between the concept that the un working group and kind of bunny said that it's is, let's say it's not a divorce but the failure of the communication, right? so thank you very much indeed. that's right. so southern talking to us from the, those talks to some of the binge of it's joining us now live from couple russell is just a good explaining there that one of the reasons why the child of on weren't at the meeting was because it basically said that we should only talk to the people should only talk to the child a button and uh, and nobody else to know other actors. oh, how is the tyler button phrasing all of this in trouble? what, what's the motivation for not going to this meeting and don't?
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well, i had a very long discussions with the, one of the leaders of the islamic image of, of the son of the bundle that likes to call itself a. and the red line by line to what the secretary of the united nations of said, from the very onset is, according to the of the cabinet of, of gone to sun. there is been never a better environment for security and peace in and the 5 it has some down on multiple groups including isolated people are able to move freely within cities and with the provinces even late at night. and it is delivering on basic services which is improved tremendously. and that is also being corroborated by people in the street to say that it is better than what it was. but also they also complained about how, how bad the poverty is in this country. but coming back to why the thought about did not the 10 is that they say, according to them, it's been 2 and a half years of the back and forth with the same thing. so if you are not in charge of one of the fund officially, while this is the stance in public and private,
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many countries including those where their neighbor, the country, is countries in the region here have been tending the the tyler bond or these on the coverage of a by the time that they're willing to work with them, just not recognize them. so this is a defacto government, which is in charge. and according to the owner, ford by the united nations, which was presented in november. do that to mention security council. it says that the start of school of dealing with the title, yvonne is not working. i'm not is why the probably by the system that if you want to work with us, if you want to deal with this scene with this as the people in charge of apply this on a stop going around in your echo chambers, as you've done in the last few decades a, this almost thank you very much and these are some of the things i've had talking to us of from couple. i'm going to be back in a couple of minutes or more in all these stories in shooting. look back at our coverage, all seasons and national criminal ford, which has been your hearing evidence. and it is that he, on the consequences of israel's occupation. there have been 3 hours of representations from the palestinian delegation on dropbox and stay with us and all
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just the the latest news palestinians are not only queuing to got bread and water, but they're also suing on the machine to receive their treatments from the ha. so the story, how rude works to the cemetery. there's no tombstone for them, but he's determined that the names will be never forgotten. with details coverage, the said was on the photo intellus, but many of them have either the implicit for the actual practical support of these by the all me the unique perspective, one of the i don't want to call even if i'm not reporting, i want to leave this and it was really a formatting thoughtful this coverage and there's no reason to target your journal on heard voices of the patient. please
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these business uptake these roads thought no bundle dash football to use the the hello. i'm about this and this is the news online from doha. coming up in the next 60 minutes. we are proud under a zillion people that has been doing more than it straight at all the nation. it is so painful to be better seen than today. historic day of the united nations highest course concludes with products standing officials making their case against
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israel's illegal occupation. and it's devastating impact the.

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