to the hospital, which seeing this gentleman is just behind me, hundreds of people have been and back to h as an in depth coverage thailand states it's future of fossil fuels. nope, renewable. i'll just use teams on the bring you closer to the heart of the story. sap sedan is facing a 100 catastrophe. the effects of civil war and natural disasters are compounded by an influx of refugees fleeing the conflict in neighboring sudan. so how desperate is the situation and who should step in to help south so that this is inside store the hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much is room? south sudan is on the verge of a devastating hunger catastrophe. that's the warning from the world food program.

and it short history africa's young this country has been battered by armed conflict and the effects of a rapidly changing climate. now the influx of half a 1000000 people escaping the violence. a neighboring sudan is worsening and already fragile humanitarian situation. agencies say more funding and unhindered access is vital to provide millions of south sudanese with desperately need of food assistance. but how challenging is it to secure this funding, and what can be done to address the mass displacement of people from across the border? we'll discuss this with our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report by dmitri evident south sedan is one of the poorest countries in the world. a combination of extreme weather patterns from lots to drought, as well as biting and security, has led to hunger crisis. it's exacerbated by the flow of refugees fleeing the conflict and neighboring so that most, most south sudanese pretending and how they didn't know what we need to suit the

immediate support. we need to stay each to be able to survive. they arrived here in the boat of the town of rank hoping to find shelter in camp for transit center. people as you see, arrived with very little if anything at all being registered to being given basic support. and then they being asked to move further into south to adopt the well food program says more than 7000000 south sydney's on malnourished with 2300000 of them. on the brink of famine, south sedan is africa's youngest nation. it's a seated from sedan in 2011. a civil war broke out in 2013 and last and 7 years. political in fighting and, and security prevented the formation of a unified leadership. after several failed transitional governments. finally, the current inter him administration is preparing to hold the country's 1st

elections in december. however, it took them, you know, an ethnic violence to assist the new indian, my phone and that of my sister. they were taking a good point. we took all our valuables, including money. the w. p is one that unless 8 agencies are granted access to communities in need. and unless it's $300000000.00 funding gap is filled, the region will face a devastating hunger catastrophe in the coming months to meet them at the didn't go out as a raffle inside story. the. all right, let's go ahead and bring our guests in this house in these capital, juba is angelina and you know, jemma, the executive director of hope restoration, south sedan, a non governmental organization that runs humanitarian and peace building programs . here in doha is alan boswell, the horn of africa, director for the international crisis group. and also when julia is generous, known head of communications of the world food program and south sedan,

a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story, angelina. let me start with you today. the world food program says more than 7000000 in the south, so needs are malnourished. the 2000000 of them are on the brink of famine. how are people in the south sedan coping with the younger crisis? but thank you for the opportunity and did the food security situation and stuff so that it's not looking good a and test. so did he mention it has to do with the for last slide. and also we've been having drugs in uh out of the country. so based us make it extremely difficult for the population to be enough. woodson to do no more for me, as we all know, sells to dances 2019 as a for long uh, floods and it has displaced a lot of people know in most cases they've been relying mostly on uh, you mentioned in 18 the country with some stuff with something from the state level,

but then it has not been enough because once you have this, this from your own for people from your own household starting up again, it's not that easy and become extremely difficult. and when you try to look at also the dollar, it has to be moving very high compared to our country in the country and the commission, i tend to use the unemployed and mostly women that are struggling to take care of their families. it has been extremely impossible, so another by then goes to the 80 walk us walk in for a to support the farming list. and also that, that you mentioned that that is funding in the country. this has not been easy because the 8 to the south for depressing. so the funding that has been coming to the country is no more coming for all that time. so this is a crisis that we are in in south sedan. again, since last it would be have the most a population of,

if we decide the tenants that are coming from done to in and different incentives, all these people come to that is struggling to take care and feed to own citizen. so it'd become of us for 60 to us and that we're in and a small then it might be a stress and that might not be complete. thank you. jim. uh, your organization, the w r p says that sudan if facing catastrophic levels of hunger, that's 75 percent of people there are in need of a few mediterranean assistance south through the end. rather, i want to ask you 1st how desperate the situation is. and i want to ask you about the level of food and security in south sedan. how does it compare when it comes to the level of food and security in other countries in the world? i mean stop. sedona has the highest proportion of speed and secure and people out of the whole low, let's say that makes sense that the higher percentage of the population is facing. i keep food and security. i mean, we might have freedom security on essentially

a scale of one to 5. and the majority of people in south down around 60 percent of the population a i, p c 34 or 5 with 4 and 5 being the absolute nice to be. so there's a bunch of places to starvation places to them, and i say, i mean is extremely serious practice. and the country has been dealing with crisis . not until this crisis until the process is or has already been pointed out as being the, the effective climate change, the climate process, which is caused expense flooding throughout the country. i phenomena shots which started with drain crew, but i have just, uh, continue to weston. uh, throughout and now we have the conflict and saddam as well, which is pushing people across the border into the country that's already facing critical food and security. allen, from your perspective,

how much is the issue mandatory and catastrophe that is unfolding in south sedan due to the country's political dysfunction and political instability? how much of a factor is that? sure. well i um i, i feel bad for the humanitarian because the south sedan has been in pretty much chronic, chronic, severe hunger for me, for years and every year, pretty much agencies have to raise alarms and trying to get continue to. i'm funding and obviously it's out to you and is a, is a place that has struggled to get hundreds feeds ever since getting independence 10 years ago. but for sure this is a crisis and that very much to speak them from its political. this function from is boxed states information um and humanitarians. um i, i very much are swimming, i get into the current so to speak. um, the default of this light is primarily with south music politicians, which with

a system that uses violence, but it's also basically stolen us out to you guys oil. well, what i think we have to brought them to tend to much beyond that. are the politics that lights this obviously, dan's independence, the backing the south you down to receive for regional african countries from americans that, that dropped into independence and then the failure to sort of follow up to help produce a stable country. afterwards, there are many fingers to be pointed around and it's disappointing that donors are pulling away when many of the same donor countries are the ones who are partly responsible for it's out to them getting independence to begin with. jim, a calendar was talking about the fact that donors are, are pulling away, and i want to ask you how much more difficult that makes your work. i mean, how much of a, of a funding gap is there right now that you and other n g o is and agencies have to contend with them? how much more difficult does it make the work and how much more dire just to make to humanitarian crisis?

there are multiple competing crises, all across the world's turn is attention, including all different directions. and so what we're finding is we actually don't have enough money meetings. the norm is needs that in stuff done and where and i guess you could kind of cool from an invention or made, sorry, out of the 7 point one, acutely free, insecure people where actually in the allows the range, uh, able to range $3700000.00 of those people, so that's less than $0.40 and that means that we are basically, as i mentioned, hung up we raise it essentially on a scale of one to 5 spree is process for emergency by this catastrophic. so any money in the i p c. read, we are just unable to reach the amount by having to focus on efforts on those who are closest to starvation, who may be connie's and put a meal on the, on the table each day. and even then the people that we are able to reach, but only able to give them 50 percent of the rations that's less than 300 grams of

food each day, which is an extraordinarily tiny amount. when you think that it's amazing, people can survive creative. we feel like, well again see, it's just a continued deterioration in south dawn, particularly with the out of the conflict and saddam, pushing people across the border. because the people that were seen coming coming across the border, a lot of them actually facing the highest levels, diploma and the ones that were witnessed worried about angelina, let me ask you as well. i mean, the fact that there is this funding shortfall now the fact that people are pulling their donations, how much more difficult is it making the work for you and your organization? how much more difficult is it for you all to help so many people that are in such dire need as well. it's getting more difficult and a button bring in the context of my organization being a member offended your forum in south sedan where we have about 356 national

and handed into international been edition. when you try to look at the number and the response across the country before the crisis and the funding cuts, those, that lot of people, that's uh, the community is what benefiting from before. but concrete, the center of, of an edition that, that's really narrow down the, the skin don't deal cooperation. and that's your skin downhill. publishing, bear in mind that the population that has been benefit think through the from that means that you have been doing. i also want to be affected, and as they have been affected in time of funding, scaling those to uh, they do have like other options that they are leaving in. and when you try to look up the site to see you were going to end up having like high rates or well treatment, 92 in the country because these people are no more benefiting on what they've been

getting before. mm hm. and they have been of the dates so that the so not the big list that you're going to get. and so when you try to also look at the positive coffee, mackenzie, my thing is you mentally. and also need to look at the, the tomato, the idiots that the population i see despite the fact that it has been slight, did oh, it also has drawn how are people that document? there may be more of these things and what can we learn from them? so that we can use that to, to, to improve our apartments and moving forward because it's not sustainability like you mentioned in a and so, so then for the 5 digit it has to rely on that. you mentioned an 8 and that test literally 12 test. i'm not from dependency syndrome. well we, it's a struggle for us to get total weight. so moving forward with the challenges we are in, it has to be also aligning the process and which would take it in

a positive way that what can we do in case the budget cuts that date is it, that is going to continue and also to the governmental, it's possibility because in developing every country that is, once you've been to of the cvn, it's the government. so how we, as you mentioned and also seats on the same table with the government and try to explain the situation that you mentioned in these, in, in the country and to the government. and what can we do? i suppose so communities that affect it because and seen we see the all of us when defensive and discuss the kind of just that we have went through. that's the only way we can get the break to join all the money that is coming in the country. actually, i know, sorry to interrupt you, but i, i know that your organization is trying to get vulnerable communities that have been affected by things like climate to move towards self reliance. and i want to

ask you how can that be done? considering the challenges that you're facing right now, how do you get to that model that you're working towards? what has to happen? what, what has to happen like kind of feed, the practical response we are doing is uh it's not a bottom up search where we seed with the communities. we hear from them. what as being the challenges in what of the also done in time of uh oh, the own a press funding to the price is the inc. and with zullie the from this, like when we talk about the funding, when we talk about the firm, us, what bring funding in did states where we'll fund anything, particularly in unity state and also in hop on a what will happen some of that in the flat us a, a positive impact in a way that they are doing a lot of planting a will or food items,

the biggest tables, the so bumps in a and the mays along the, the, the flooded areas where they use that what the for the flat to also use them for full integration. so i think this, i think that we also need to see as much as initially to a so negative, but now it's become positive. you know, way that people also benefiting from me because i please you have what that meant is that through i would invest, can help you know, how do we also make it i said to the communities, the telling that we've also been receiving from most of the the people we have saving ease, they don't have tools, they don't have sheets. so how do we also utilize the smartest sources we are getting to purchase a lot of seats and pools, and then the communities that's one to do the own funding gets their own food production instead of relying on you mentioned in 8 monthly food a that is not more foot coming because a lot of places, the normal distribution that is coming. so how are these people going to stop by

when we come to the lean season, which is from every to july where formats had 3 now or the. you don't have any availability. so how do we also mix on this particular period? we have something that this people can have before that the season. so i think those that some of the things that i see mentally and, and particularly as a national organization, we work within the communities and we always know what can be the challenges that the community are pressing and we are part of the community. right. but i understand, do we send to 19 the floods happened, angelina, i'm sorry. i'm sorry to interrupt you again. i'll get back to you at that point you're making right now, but i need to go to alan because i have a question for you all. and you were talking about jobs, so dance backers, you were talking about the political climate. i want to ask you if there are any of south sedans, allies that can do something concrete right now, that would help get the country back on track. what part of the problem is there

aren't many allies left? um and you can imagine why when you think about the, the, the donor powers, for instance. um they have been pumping uh billions of dollars of aide into south sudan. um has described by it by angelina. there is huge, a huge the, a, the dependency. and the government basically is taking the said for granted. and meanwhile, south syrians, politics is primarily, it has primarily become a struggle to see how much boiled revenue that, that all the politicians can steal, none of which gets down to populations on the ground. so obviously a very fatiguing donors who feel like they've been putting the bills. you have south sydney's who have a government who basically doesn't care about their plight and doesn't think it's their responsibility. and it's very hard to find a way out. because if you start cutting off, i the food supplies, for instance, obviously that's very bad for ourselves who needs. but it's also people found no

way to convince the government itself to start caring about its population or reorienting its politics. and the, um, the, the truth is there's probably no short cuts uh to this, um, most, uh, i would say outside countries at this point are essentially uh, we have lost hope in the leadership of the current president, president uh, south of kia. and i would characterize the policies of many outside powers. we still care about south through the end of which there are not many, but many of those are essentially waiting to see what happens after the south. a kia who's, who's health is known to be a not good and but who could live for, for many years longer. it's hard to tell, but i'd say many are just playing a, we didn't see the game. i mean, this is terrible for us out through news um and it's especially terrible that donors are cutting their funding and they're essentially just being left out to drive. and as you mentioned is warren sudan is increasing the pressure. i would

just also add that there has been in extreme lack of urgency on the international scene and to address and hold to the collapse of sudan. they've been too distracted by was that ukraine, by a war and guns. and all of this is affecting the brother region as well. so you have a pull, you have donors pulling out politically and i could and financially really at the same time. and it's, you know, and, and millions of lives are tens of millions of lines across the region are going to be hard, fully affected. and alan, and what are you talking about? wait and see. i mean, the elections were pushed to december 2024. from your perspective. does that timeline actually look realistic? i mean with the country be ready for elections by then could they pull that off? i don't know any one. and uh, uh, i and others memorization. talk to me, it needs uh something to know anyone who thinks that they are ready to hold elections this year. the by and large consensus is that those will be post owned

again. um, and it will be very, very much a modeling process of moving ahead. that will be a huge challenge, resulted in moving ahead, but still i no one really expects any sort of major leadership change to come out of election. so even that would really hunter that can uh, down further down the road about what actually happens to south students. but there are, there is a lot of basic nation building. basic state building needs to be done at ford south to can i, they united, adjusting up for independence, but then basically turn it on each other almost as soon as independence happened. they never really settled on a basic political settlement and there's almost no infrastructure or formal economy . it's it so. so the road is quite steep, but it does need another leadership. also, jim, many agencies including w, f, b, they want that unless they are granted more access to the communities in need and south to the end. the things are only going to get more dire. how difficult has it

been for your organization to get access to those communities that most need help? that means the of seeing stuff down has relatively good access to community to need . we do at this particular period of the huge during the dry season i is, it's an absolute, critical time for us because it's by many places we shall food assistance people, the rain sit in the sea and you show that the food is bad in the communities where we deliver them now. uh okay. uh the community is that what delivering to they are the most and we developed in sa, saddam, they live infrastructure completely. a lot about pre positioning has to be done utilizing the river because they're just snow birds. so they can also be communities where outbreaks on plays can be a regular occurrence. so say this, here it is a is really, really important and we are by saying gauge. we both are these on all the national state, local. i mean, show that we hadn't reach these communities, we can have

a free that's the reason why that's needed. angelina, if i could just ask you how the worsening humanitarian crisis in south sedan may have impacted you personally. how is it, how is it impacted you? your family, your loved ones. how, how do you deal with it as well? but individually. i can clearly fuss with the 25 uh 20 uh 2019 of flats where by my own office hold this 1st one in my end it. 5 or stick, i know it was so much in water and we had to move to prison. most of the population that had been subbing and also the office. so this is basically us, me been us. so when you come also to each has to do with the you mentioned in crisis in the country. it us like a lot of that i mention because from the food is security,

it also comes to sometimes community and violence who have permission get to be displaced. maybe something with the cut on the cut on the cut, on the writings. and you add it with the things do with the agenda, best buy and all of those things. uh yes. if pass on with the kind of what say do and the people that i also saw in my community sometimes in most cases, yes, it's affected. and when you look on the women of self, so then in most cases, all of this, not all the other ones, sean doesn't own the that, that self funding in the country. because i've been up the d test to be a woman bringing food to the table, and this is a woman that is trustworthy or not own. so you tend to just pretend you ok for you to publish this to other people, but you really to you are not so this that people that something that being seen us trust. but that's just on the 5th mean this, that people who are going to

a lot. and when you look on the, the, the response to the country, it's not that it now is most efficient. and in most cases i feel so. so then as part of the full book in crisis, and we focus on other places that's a quite fresh and it's not how it's supposed to look like. so we need to see that if any of the new classes that are actually driving now, oh, we're dealing with that kind of the prices that was a bit before need to be lou cut most. when you look at this would then be mostly on the, on the news like 12 but but when you look at the past is starting to pass the big display. does that mean you cannot even cross from point a to point b and nobody talks about it? when you look at stuff. so then it's accounted that we are going to step to have a election for the fuss by me. you see in this angelina about 10 different the full

entering the height time that i'm sorry, that means you need to look at data. so i'm sorry to interrupt you again. we're just, we're just running out of time an hour and i just need to ask you one last question . we have about a minute and a half left of the south or down. it was once hill to the very promising experiment in democracy. is it now essentially a failed state just by, you know, many definitions of a failed state. it was a failed states almost at almost at its birth. it's very sad again, i would just say that i think uh, responsibility for style to the ends. failure thus far lives with much more themselves and these are themselves. this was an international project born out of geo politics. it has failed thus far. and obviously the people bearing the brunt of that are. so as soon as i do think, i saw a student has a long road ahead. obviously it will start to address it's, it's many issues, but it'll be a very, it'll be a very, very uh, along the road. and it is unfortunate that we're already seeing. i saw students

friends pull out and, and, and suddenly leave it to its own. all right, but we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much to all of our guest, angelina in the gmc allen boswell and gym us. no, and thanks you too for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just share a. com and prefer the discussion go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ag inside story. you can also join the conversation on x r handle is at a inside store for me and how much enjoy and hosting here, bye for now, the the latest news palestinians are not only chewing to got bread and water, but they're also chewing on the machine to receive their treatments from the hearts of the story. how rude works to the cemetery. there is no tombstone for them,

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