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hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much enjoy them. south sudan is on the verge of a devastating hunger catastrophe. that's the warning from the world food program and its short history advocacy. youngest country has been battered by armed conflict and the effects of a rapidly changing climate. now the influx of half a 1000000 people escaping the violence. a neighboring sudan is worsening and already fragile humanitarian situation. agencies say more funding and on 100 access is vital to provide millions of south sudanese with desperately need of food assistance. but how challenging is it to secure this funding and what can be done to address the mass displacement of people from across the border? we'll discuss this with our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report by dmitri evident south sedan is one of the poorest countries in the world. a combination of extreme weather, patents from bloods to drought, as well as biting and security, has led to hunger crisis. the,

it's exacerbated by the flow of refugees fleeing the conflict and neighboring so that most, most south student is pretending how they did nothing. and then what we need is immediate support. we need to eat to be able to survive. they arrived here in the town of rank hoping to find shelter in camps for transit center. people as you see, arrived with very little if anything at all they being registered. the being given basic support. and then they being asked to move further into south. so doc, the well food program says more than 7000000 south sydney's on malnourished with 2300000 of them. on the brink of famine. south sedan is africa's youngest nation. it's a seated from sedan in 2011. a civil war broke out in 2013 and last at 7 years. political infighting, and then security prevented the formation of

a unified leadership. after several failed transitional governments. finally, the current inter him administration is preparing to hold the country's 1st elections of december. however, it took them, you know, an estimate of violence to assist in a whole new or indeed my phone and that of my sister. they were taking a good point. we took all our valuables including money. so w p is one that unless agencies are granted access to communities in need and unless it's $300000000.00 funding gap is filled, the region will face a devastating hunger catastrophe in the coming months to meet them in the didn't go out as a raffle inside story the. all right, let's go ahead and bring our guests in this house in these capital, juba is angelina and you know, jemma, the executive director of hope restoration, south sedan, a non governmental organization that runs through monetary and, and peace building programs. here in doha is alan boswell, the horn of africa,

director for the international crisis group. and also in julia is jim as known as of communications of the world food program and south sedan. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today. on inside story, angelina, let me start with you today. the world food program says more than 7000000 south, so these are malnourished. the 2000000 of them are on the brink of famine. how are people in the south sedan coping with the younger crisis? c thank you for the opportunity. indeed the food security situation himself so that it's not looking good a and test. so did he mention it has to do with the for last slide. and also we've been having drugs in part of the country. so based as make it extremely difficult for the population to be enough, woodson to do no more for me as we all know, sells to dances 2019 as a for long, a flat and it has displaced

a lot of people know in most cases they've been relying mostly on uh, you mentioned in 18, the country with some stuff with some things from the state level. but then it has not been enough because once you have this, this from your own 4 piece from your own household, starting up again, it's not that easy and become extremely difficult. and when you try to look up also the dollar, it has to be moving very high compared to our country in the country and the commission, i tend to use the unemployed and mostly women that are struggling to take care of their families. it has been extremely impossible, so another by then goes to the 80 walk us, walk in for it to support their families. and also the that you mentioned that that is funding in the country. this has not been easy because the a to the south for depressing. so the funding that has been coming to the country

is no more coming for all that time. so this is a crisis that we're inc, itself, sedan again, since last it would be have the most a population of, if we decide the tenants that are coming from done to that and different incentives, all these people come to that is struggling to take care and feed to own citizen, so it'd become over 60 to us and that we're in. and then it might be a stress and that might not be complete. thank you. jim, your organization. the w. r p says that sudan, if is facing catastrophic levels of hunger, that's 75 percent of people there are in need of a few mediterranean assistance south through the end. rather, i want to ask you 1st how desperate the situation is. and i want to ask you about the level of food and security in south sudan, how does it compare when it comes to the level of food in security, in other countries? in the world? i mean, south sedona has the highest proportion to speed and secure people out as

a whole low. so that makes sense. the higher percentage of the population is facing . i keep food and security. i mean, we may have freedom security on essentially a scale of one to 5. and the majority of people in south dawn around 60 percent of the population a i p. c for useful 5 with 4 and 5. seeing the absolute nice to be, say, the places to starvation places to them. and i say, i mean, is it extremely serious practice and the country has been dealing with crisis. not until this crisis on something process is or has already been pointed out as being the, the effective climate change, the climate process, which is caused expense flooding throughout the country. as a number of shots uh, which started with during chrome. but i have just uh, continued to weston uh, throughout and now we have the conflict and see don as well,

which is pushing people across the border into the country that is already facing critical food and security. allen, from your perspective, how much is the issue mandatory and catastrophe that is unfolding in south sedan due to the country's political dysfunction and political instability? how much of a factor is that? sure, well i, um i, i feel bad for the humanitarian because the south to the end has been in pretty much chronic, chronic, severe hunger for me, the years and every year, pretty much agencies have to raise alarms and trying to get continue to i'm funding and obviously it's how soon is a is a place that has struggled to get on its feet ever since giving independence 10 years ago. but for sure this is a crisis and that very much the speak them from its political. this function from is botched, states and information um and humanitarians. um i,

i very much are hired our swimming. i get into the current so to speak. um the, the default of this light is primarily with south music politicians which with a system that uses violence. but it's also basically stolen us out to you guys oil . well, but i think we have to broaden the tend to much beyond that. are the politics that light to south sedans, independence, the backing this house you down to receive for regional african countries from americans that got them to independence and then the failure to sort of follow up to help reduce a stable country. afterwards, there are many fingers to be pointed around and it's disappointing that donors are pulling away when many of the same donor countries are the ones who are partly responsible for it's out to them getting independents to begin with. jim a gallon there was talking about the fact that donors are, are pulling away and i want to ask you how much more difficult that makes your work . i mean, how much of a, of a funding gap is there right now that you and other

n g o and agencies have to contend with them? how much more difficult does it make the work? and how much more dyer does that make the humanitarian crisis? there are multiple competing crises, all across the wells turn is attention is being pulled in all different directions . and so what we're finding is we actually don't have enough money meetings. the norm is needs that in stuff done and where and i guess you could kind of color into the bench in the mood, sorry, out of the 7 point one acutely for instance, you are people where actually in the allowed range i able to range $3700000.00 of there's people, so that's less than $0.40 and that means that we are basically, as i mentioned, hung up uh, we base it essentially on a scale of one to 5 spree is process for emergency by this catastrophic. so any money and i pc read, we are just unable to reach that amount by having to focus our efforts on those who of course, has to stop ation. it may be con, even put

a meal on it on the table each day. and even then the people that we are able to reach for, and we are able to give them 50 percent of the rations that's less than 300 grams of food each day, which is an extraordinarily timing amount. when you think that it's amazing, people can survive creative. we feel like what am i going to see is just to continue deterioration in south dawn. particularly with the out of the conflict and saddam, pushing people across the border because the people that were seen coming coming across the border, a lot of them actually facing the highest levels, diploma. and they're the ones that were witnessed. worried about angelina, let me ask you as well. i mean, the fact that there is this funding shortfall. now the fact that people are pulling their donations, how much more difficult is it making the work for you and your organization? how much more difficult is it for you all to help so many people that are in such dire need as well. it's getting more difficult and

a buttons bring in the context of my organization being a member or friend, your forum in south sedan, where we have about 356 national and handed into international organization. when you try to look up the number and the response across the country before the crisis and the funding cuts, those that not the tv piece that's uh the comment is what benefiting from before, but concrete, the center of, of an addition that's absolutely uh narrow down the uh, the skin don't deal, but ition and nice, you skin downhill. publishing, bear in mind that the population that has been beneficial, think through the from that means that you have been doing. i also want to be affected, and as they have been affected in time of funding, scaling those as uh, they do have like other options that they are leaving in. and when you try to look

on the site to see you when to end up having like hybrids or well, treatment, 92 in the country because these people are no more benefiting on what they've been getting before. mm hm. and they have been of the dates so that they send out the big list that you're going to get. and so when you try to also look at the positive coping mechanism, i think it's you meant and also need to look at the, the tomato, the idiots that the population i see despite the fact that it has been flat, did o. it also has drawn how are people that document, there may be more of these things and what can we learn from them so that we can use that to, to, to improve our apartments and moving forward. because it's not sustainable lighting more. you mentioned in a and so so then for the 5 digit it has to rely on that. you mentioned an 8 and that test literally 12 tests, not from dependency syndrome. well we, it's

a struggle for us to get total weight. so moving forward with the challenges we are in, it has to be also aligning the process and we should take it in a positive way that what can we do in case the budget cuts? that is it, that is going to continue and also to the government responsibility because in the reality, every country that if once you've been to of the cvn, it's the government. so how do we, as you mentioned, and also seats on the same table with the government and try to explain the situation that you mentioned in these, in, in the country and to the government. and what can we do? i also communities that affect it because and seen we see all of us on the center and discuss the kind of dyslexia went through. that's the only way we can get the break to join all the money that is coming in the country. actually, i know,

sorry to interrupt you, but i, i know that your organization is trying to get vulnerable communities that have been affected by things like climate to move towards self reliance. and i want to ask you how can that be done? considering the challenges that you're facing right now, how do you get to that model that you're working towards? what has to happen? what, what has to happen like kind of feed, the practical response we are doing is uh it's not a bottom up search where we stayed with the communities. we hear from them. what as being the challenges in what of the also done in time of uh oh the own. and i'm of responding to the prices that in and with zullie the from this, like when we talk about the funding. when we talk about the firm, us, what bring funding in the state where we'll fund anything, particularly in unity state and also in hop on a what will happen some of that in the flat us a, a positive impact in

a way that they are doing a lot of planting a will or food items, the biggest tables, the so bumps in a and the main along the, the, the flooded areas where they use. that's what the for the flat to also use them full full in addition. so i think this, i think that we also need to see as much as initially to a so negative, but now it's become positive. you know, way that people also benefiting from me because i please you have what that meant is that through i would invest, can help you know, how do we also make it i said to the communities, the telling that we've also been receiving from most of the the people we have saving if they don't have tools, they don't have feet. so how do we also utilize the smartest sources we are getting to purchase a lot of seats and pools, and then the communities, that's the one to do the own funding gets their own food production instead of

relying on you mentioned in 8 monthly food aid that is not more forthcoming because a lot of places, the normal distribution that is coming. so how are these people going to stop by when we come to the lean season, which is from every to july where formats had 3 now or the. you don't have any availability. so how do we also mix in this particular period? we have something that this people can have before that the susan has, i think those that some of the things that i see mentally and particularly as a national organization, we work within the communities and we always know what can be the challenges that the community off pressing and we are part of the community. right? mm hm. and then do we send to 19 the floods happened, angelina, i'm sorry. i'm sorry to interrupt you again. i'll get back to you at that point you're making right now, but i need to go to alan because i have a question for you while and you were talking about jobs to dance backers. you were talking about the political climate. i want to ask you,

if there are any of south sudan allies that can do something concrete right now, that would help get the country back on track. what part of the problem is there aren't many and how lies left? um and you can imagine why when you think about the, the, the donor powers, for instance. um, they have been pumping uh billions of dollars of aide into south sudan has described by it by angelina. they're a huge each to a dependency. and the government basically is taking the same for granted. and meanwhile, south cdns, politics is primarily, it has primarily become a struggle to see how much oil revenue that, that all the politicians can steal, none of which gets down to populations on the ground. so obviously i've every 15 donors who feel like they've been putting the bills. you have south sydney's who have a government who basically doesn't care about their plight and doesn't think it's their responsibility. and it's very hard to find a way out. because uh,

if you start cutting off uh the food supplies, for instance, obviously that's very bad for ourselves who needs, but it's also, uh, people found no way to convince the government itself to start caring about its population or reorienting. it's politics and the, the, the truth is there's probably no short cuts a to this. um, most i would say outside countries at this point are essentially we have lost hope in the leadership of the current president, president uh, south of kia. and i would characterize the policies of many outside powers who still care about south through the end of which there are not many, but many of those are essentially waiting to see what happens after the south. a kia who's, who's health is known to be a not good and but who could live for, for many years longer. it's hard to tell, but i'd say many are just playing a, we didn't see the game. i mean,

this is terrible for us out through news um and it's especially terrible that donors are cutting their funding and they're essentially just being left out to drive. and as you mentioned is warren sudan is increasing the pressure. i would just also add that there has been in extreme lack of urgency on the international scene, it to address and hold to the collapse of sudan. they've been too distracted by was that ukraine, bioware and guns. and all of this is affecting the broader region as well. so you have a pull, you have donors pulling out politically and i could and financially really at the same time. and it's, you know, and, and millions of lives are tens of millions of lines across the region are going to be hard, fully affected. and alan, and what are you talking about? wait and see. i mean, the elections were pushed to december 2024. from your perspective. does that timeline actually look realistic? i mean with the country be ready for elections by then could they pull that off? i don't know any one. and uh, i and others, members, agent talk to me, it needs

a sound to you to know anyone who thinks that they are ready to hold elections this year. the by and large consensus is that those will be posed. and again, um i need to be very, very much a modeling process of moving ahead. um, that'll be a huge challenge results in moving ahead, but still i, no one really expects any sort of major leadership change to come out of the election. so even that would really hunter the can uh, down further down the road about what actually happens to south sudan. but there are, there is a lot of basic nation building. basic state building needs to be done at fort south to can i, they united, adjusting up for independence, but then basically turned on each other almost as soon as independence happened. they never really settled on a basic political settlement and there's almost no infrastructure or formal economy service and the road is quite steep, but it does need another leadership. also, jim, many agencies including w, p,

they've worn that unless they are granted more access to the communities in need and south to the end of things are only going to get more dire. um, how difficult has it been for your organization to get access to those communities that most need help? that means the of seeing stuff down has relatively good access to community to need . we do at this particular period of the huge during the dry season i is, it's an absolute, critical time for us because it's by many places we shall food assistance before the rain sit in a t and show the speed is back in the communities where we deliver them are now open uh the community is that what delivering to they are the most and we developed and sa, saddam, they live infrastructure completely a lot about pre positioning has to be done utilizing the river because they're just snow birds. they can also be communities where outbreaks on plays can be

a regular occurrence. so. so this period of the is really, really important and we are by saying gauge. we both are these on all the national state local to ensure that we hadn't reach these communities. we cannot see that the ready, someone else needed. angelina, if i could just ask you how the worsening humanitarian crisis in south sedan may have impacted you personally. how is it, how is it impacted you? your family, your loved ones. how? how do you deal with it? as well, but individually i can clearly fuss with the 25 uh 20 uh 2019 of flats where by my own office hope this 1st one in my end it. 5 or stick, i know it was so much in water and we had to move to a position to move the population that we've been subbing and also the office. so this is basically us,

me been us or when you come also to each has to do with the you mentioned in crisis in the country. it us like a lot of that i mentioned because from the food is security, it also comes to sometimes let me know in violence who have permission get to be displaced. may be something with the cut on the cut on the toilet ratings and you add it with the things do with the agenda best buy and all of those things . uh yes. if pass on with the kind of website do and the people that i also saw in my community, sometimes in most cases, yes, it's affected. and when you look on the women of self, so then in most cases all the sonata, the other one is shonda. the oldest that, that somebody in the country because i've been up the d test to be a woman bringing food to the table. and this is a woman that is trustworthy will not own. so you tend to just pretend you ok for

you to talk to this to other people, but you really to you are not so this that people that something that being c not strong, but this just on the 15 this, that people who are going to a lot, and when you look on the, the, the, one to the country, it's not that it now it's most efficient. and in most cases i feel so. so then it's part of the for book and prices. and we for cause one of the places that's a white, fresh and it's not how it's supposed to look like. so we need to see that if any of the new classes that are actually driving now, oh, we're dealing with, they're cutting the prices. that was it before need to be new cuts mostly new, but this would then be mostly on the, on the news like 12 but but when you look at this starting, people are still being displayed. does that mean you cannot even cross from point a to point b and nobody talks about it when you look myself. so then it's

a come to that we're going to step to have a election for the fuss by me. you see in this angelina about 10 different, the full entering the high thing that i'm sorry, that means you need to look at it. so i'm sorry to interrupt you again. we're just, we're just running out of time an hour and i just need to ask you one last question . we have about a minute and a half left of the south or down. it was once hill to the very promising experiment in democracy. is it now essentially a failed state? uh yes, by, you know, many definitions of a failed state. it was a failed stage almost at almost at its burden. it's very sad again, i would just say that i think uh, responsibility for style to dance failure thus far lives with much more themselves and these are themselves. this was an international project born out of geo politics. it has failed us far. and obviously the people bearing the brunt of that are. so as soon as i do think, i saw that as a long road ahead,

obviously it will start to address it's, it's many issues, but it'll be a very, it'll be a very, very uh, along the road. and it is unfortunate that we're already seeing. i saw students friends pull out and, and, and as i move it to it's um, all right, but we have run out of time. so we're going to have to leave the conversation there . thanks so much to all of our guests, angelina and your team. allen, boswell and jemma smoking and thank you to for watching even see the program again . any time by visiting our website, i'll just or dot com and prefer the discussion go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ag inside story. you can also join the conversation on x. r handle is as a inside story. i mean, how much control and hosting here, bye for now, the if a child does not die from the landing,

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