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housed the purpose of russia's made a trip ration was to protect people who are subjected to bullying and genocide. but the key of regime 2 years old and people in the russian speaking provinces of ukraine are refusing to speak russian and choosing you praying and instead. well, russia has captured around 20 percent of ukrainian land and attached for new regions, states territory page and says, russia's winning on all fronts. the rest and full of disco, which russia had been trying to capture since the beginning of the invasion is portrayed as one of the greatest victories the ukrainian government that russia initially wanted to topple as part of as the. and that's if occasional strategy is still in place, while the entire city is a race to the ground with millions of people displaced, appointment, there was confidence at the beginning that ukraine was with us only the nazis were against us. we felt would defeat the easily then ukraine would meet us with flowers . perhaps the mistake which calls to crane millions of broken lives of the 2 guys
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of the so called special mid shop ration. the kremlin is not changing or even questioning how effect save this. temperatures are in terms of achieving his goals and ukraine. complete continues to bring more devastation, grief was now and to the blood. shred, apparently, sites, let's say there was several scenarios for rush, show how the situation will develop. the aim is to secure the border regions, at least in order to prevent any cross border attacks and obviously to control the bone bass. and another possibility would be also to go forward this up in order to control access to the black sea. and of course, for made or countries, it is important not to internally move ukraine. so they will have to possibly an expert, some pressure on presidents landscape through agreed to negotiate with russia to negotiate some sort of seas 5 here. so rushes entering. it said, yeah,
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of the conflicts with ukraine. and this comes on the heels of the death of prescience of most outspoken increasing. i'll explain the valley, an overall crime down on civil rights officials report the economic growth but is applies to a very limited number of sexes, like the military industrial complex. while the level of consumption is fully for the population, let's see me, patient is planning to stay on for 5th residential time, which means the country is most likely to choose staying because you lives above all of a 0 to 0 most. okay. all right, that does it for me. for now, we will be back at the top of the hour or a little sooner. possibly, as we watch events unfolding at un headquarters in new york for now though upfront is next analysis, the record numbers of chinese asylum seekers. are traveling to the us. that's double
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many take a dangerous route through loss of america, a buyer, a gang of people, points to the color. and the 1st of the 2 parts investigation, $1.00 oh, $1.00 east meets the chinese, my friends risk and you know, the american dream on out to 0 as a warning, crane enters its 3rd year. civilian death toll continues to mount in large areas of the country, have been ravaged by war. so what is the future of you pray, and will the worst bill over into neighboring countries? that's our discussion this week, and an upfront special, the 2 years on from russia's full scale invasion of ukraine fears or mounting that the conflict may become another endless war. the hostilities thus far have led to more than $10000.00 civilian deaths and left massive destruction in its wake. militarily the situation on the ground is difficult to assess. but last week, russia scored an important victory when it captured the eastern ukrainian city of
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difficult. so what will happen now are peace negotiations even possible? what lies ahead for your brain in, in russian leadership, good is to be the best today are less, you have bus and then go ukrainian member of parliament and human rights lawyer. it might be of a political scientist currently at u. c. berkeley. and aaron match a journalist and host of the push back on the grades. i wanna thank you all for joining me on upfront. let's see, i'm going to start with you band been conflicting narratives as to which country is succeeding in this war. russian president vladimir putin has said that russian defeat is impossible, while ukrainian president of vladimir zalinski previously said, we know russia will lose. so what's the truth here in your view? what do you, what do you think things stand at the moment a brain is fighting for his existence. this has been the case since day one, which was back on the 20th february 2014 on russian sauce attached to kramer, nomics premiere and ukraine is fighting against russia's military aggression,
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aggression being an international crime. the whole world is standing behind you, praying since 2014 and especially off to the escalation of that's a fraction of 2022 to push back from russia to push back on the very fact. all the aggressive spreading of autographs is. this is, this is the assessment of the situation and what is possible or impossible and what should and shouldn't happen. this is a full for the global community to judge, and i think it's up to ukraine and all those partner and spending time to print to judge. and at the moment, everything is the only thing possible is being done to make sure that there is no victory for russia, and that there is a collection victory full, the open air and into this conversation area. i mean, what do you make of that? i mean, uh, let's say it was taking a pretty clear cut moral and political picture here. she's saying there's a,
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there's an active aggression at the legal, in the global community knows the right side of the issue here. what do you say? i have a different take on how this war began and it's important understand how began because that was the key to how this war and 10 years ago i agree, this war began, but i think it began and much different terms. 10 years ago there was a cooling ukraine, there was a democratically elected president, got a call, which he was overthrown. he was corrupt. there were many people protesting him, but the fact was, he was democratically elected. he was over throwing the leaders of the crew. were members of far right groups, including right sector and so about who the european parliament when you earlier had condemned for anti semitic xena. phobic views. they receive top cabinet posts any and to include government us quite a really dangerous role by backing this cool. victoria new in the top us official was caught on tape podding, who would be the next leader of ukraine. that the new cool government then wage the salts on the ethnic russians of eastern ukraine. one of the 1st movies was to try to ban the russian language in response. you've had eastern ukrainian prize up and
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yes, rush. i did see, i'm sorry, rush on a 2nd. i didn't mean interrupt you. i didn't interrupt one second. let's. we'll uh, we'll bring it back and i'll give you a chance to respond russian russia to cheese crime yet, which by the way, a lot of the population didn't support joining russia is ukraine officials admitted at the time there was a peace process. there was something called the mentor to a court. the basic bargain was that ukraine was gonna recognize the autonomy of eastern ukraine. and the fighting would stop ukraine under the pressure of a same far right nationalist or a trophic who refused implement minutes. which led to ultimately rush out deciding to invade. i don't support rush as invasion, but you have to recognize that from the start there were opportunities to avoid that invasion by respecting the municipal court. afterwards, there was a peace deal reached in turkey in april 2022 weeks into the war. we all know this from multiple officials, nato officials, ukraine officials, there was a deal rich between new crane and russia. but forest johnson. the permanent w. k. stepped in and said to ukraine, we're not going to back you up. if you make
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a peace deal with russia, you should keep fighting. and that i think is, has let us to where we are today. let's you. i'm sorry, but the amount of um, just twisted fast and basic incorrect information was absolutely incredible. so 1st of all, let's go back 220-142-0134 that matter. what was happening in the crate and what was happening in the frame that the time was that the people of ukraine came out. it's not just them kids, but across all of you print to protest. you can call, which is the regime on his, him putting down the foot on a democratic process that was unrolling in the country. and you, prince choice to become a to come on the past to the exception to the easy. and that's when the call, which was, you was ousted, and where the general for which me, he went to russia,
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where he is now welcomed by the function and all of his ability to cover today. you can still have a democratically elected part of a democratically elected president who the population supports. i'm also a government which is functioning. and in the years off to the my don revolution of dignity and also russia has next easily, amex crimea, there was no referendum. none of that. if you are calling a referendum a, an inquiry was where a lot of the people were held the gun point. that's not the referendum, i'm sorry. and also russia has a legally or 2 fights, and that's kind of a lot of regions. the people that we pray are still absolutely united in bringing territorial integrity back to you on a so just another correction, dement, i court the soul. goldman,
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sky ports were made on drugs force and any agreements made under force where you direct them, use of force is deemed now and what day these are basic international law for you. i security card and they want to jump in. i got to move all this, we want to cover a lot of ground to make sure both even just jump back into the conversation. anyway, let me go to you for a minute because over the weekend are russian forces took over the eastern ukrainian city a difficult which has shifted the front line. and some say it's given russia the upper hand at the moment. but what do you make of these recent developments? i think that it was a tech to go victory, but there is no chance of russian victories strategically because you, greens immediately potential and the will to resist these invasion is so strong. that's the real breakthrough on the front line isn't possible. so 5 div, correct is one small town and the front line is a thousands get one with this else. look at the lives of the boards to make about
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add ons, speech, but i guess i don't have the time. i will just post one single question again and the elected president become a dictator. and another question is going to people rise up a used uh, educator, let's say yellow jenkins and friends have this demonstration. and then my court decides to show 100 demonstrators. what do you think is going to happen in this scenario? i mean, you have this demonstration, it was a dispersed with the use of force and people who are shot to people. but you do think that people for us are going to just stand by this and say, how about to you, but use our elected president. you know, we should, we should not try to raise up against you. so in that sense might done. ready was not to do, it was a revolution and the response to that uprising in violation of every possible agreements which is a next grade here in violation of 19 i'm the wedgwood there in an interview with
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former fox news host tucker carlson. vladimir proves that he was willing to discuss a peace agreement to in the war, but russia has shown no indication that it will renounce any territories that were in x during the conflict. he previously told key that new quote, territorial realities have to be taken into account. if that is the case. can you see negotiations being even possible? i definitely see negotiation as possible. i don't see the results in anything that's a different thing. i mean, certainly rustic and have freak negotiations sending the 3rd year for the people to negotiate like deeds in march, to 1022. but this is not important to put, you know, he's not going to negotiate and he's in his mind. it just you,
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possible to inflict and leisure military defeats on your credit. and this is case altima. the goal ends the tool to achieve this goal here triggered what's, what does it mean to turn the, is it also possible, really i'm gonna bring you into and that he does what a peace agreement. it's just the, it's just the relinquishment of annex territory. so we won't be part of the state agreement. is there any way? very sincere and let's take you back now to the un security council, where us ambassador linda thomas greenfield to speak. i welcome to many foreign ministers. joining us today, your presence reflects the importance that we accord this issue 2 years ago on a cold february evening, i gathered with many of you in this chamber, the united states and albany, i had called of late night emergency meeting because we feared rushes invasion of ukraine was eminent and we were right. we'd been sounding the alarm for weeks. i
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didn't form the council in no uncertain terms about the build up of troops along the border with you crate. the secretary blinking had come to the security council, laying out an exacting detail, our concerns that russia would soon invade its sovereign neighbour, and then on february 24th, it did. while i and other members of this council called for diplomacy. and to the escalation, president prudent openly chose war, even as the russian representative who was sitting in the president's chair, denied it in this room, we could see the reality of russia's brutal aggression unfolding in real time. the world could see that choice between violence and diplomacy, war and peace unfolding in real time. today, despite futons best efforts, the world continues to bear witness to russian brutality,
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russian park for c and russian cruelty, thanks to the unrelenting work of ukrainian investigators and aid workers, fearless journalists, a numerous un bodies including this council. we have seen through the kremlin lies the lie that it was not russian troops who illegally seized crimea 10 years ago. a false hood that when it suited him put and eventually admitted to the lie depth, that the transnational criminal organizational bag, no group had no affiliation. with the kremlin, of course, the wide spread deployment of bag, no forces, as well as food and so on that mission that the kremlin finance their work proved otherwise. that. and of course, the lie that in the months leading up to russia's invasion, 2 years ago rush, he had no intention to further invade ukraine. that the nearly 200000 troops that assembled near the border were simply a military exercise. through these wise,
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prudent has tried to rewrite history to justify the unjustifiable to break the will of the ukrainian people in the break, the will of the international community as we stand up for the internet, united nations charter and his foundational principles of sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity, colleagues, we cannot let that happen. not when russia continues to bomb grain silos. last destroying more than $300000.00 tons of rain in a matter of months last year. not when the criminal and continues to detain political activist, journalists opposition leaders. people like alexi of albany, who was killed for speaking truth to power about the authoritarian right at the heart of russia's government. not when the forces have committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in ukraine, including summary executions, torture and sexual violence. and not when hundreds of thousands of ukrainian
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civilians have been deported to russia, a forcibly transferred within russia, occupied territory. so few crane. the baby's as young as a few months old to training and identities frustrated, stripped, and whose futures they have permanently change. the list, the russian violations and the views abuses could unfortunately go on and on. this senseless war has worse than a global food and security crisis rolled the global energy market cause incalculable damages to our environment and undermine the global non proliferation routine. for 2 years, president food and has been held that on beating ukrainians into submission. and yet in the face of so much cruelty, so much trauma, so much death and destruction. the crating and people have not been cowed. they
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have brought back and they've done so effectively. vastly outnumbered, they have not only defended their land, but their freedoms, their democracy, and their identity. and they have shown the world that community is a form of resistance. i think about the people's setting up make shift schools and bomb shelters. the medical professionals nursing off ins, back to health, and then hiding these babies from russians, hoping to take them the workers. i met at a grain processing facility and keep people who risk their lives to feed the hungry is among us for 2 years. ukrainians have stopped pollutants quest to conquer their country, strip it up its independence and absorb it into russia. and while fighting to keep the world fed and warm. and so as a global community, we must support ukraine to help ukraine fight, not only for peace, but for just lasting peace. rooted in the u. n's, charter's fundamental principles of sovereignty,
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territorial integrity and independence. a piece that time and time again, russia has rejected in favor of violence, destruction, and i'm off on this big as less be exceedingly clear here. if russia puts down its weapons today, the war would in, if you praying, put down its weapons. ukraine would be over only one party is the aggressor in this war, and only one party can ended. that was true 2 years ago when this body get together on that co february night, as the world turned upside down. and it's true today. so miss, so many ball faced, it lies hurled at us from this chamber. and from moscow, we continued to stand with the people of ukraine. and we continued to demand that russia put it in to his campaign of cruelty. that it would dries troops from ukraine's internationally recognized border and return the children taken from
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their homes. that it see sits unlawful for pure meant a ballistic missiles lunches, and other arms from t b r d p r k in violation of security council resolutions. and that it needs responsibility as a member of this council and uphold the charter. we have all sworn to protect today, president biden, to announce new sanctions against russia for his ongoing war of aggression in ukraine and for the death of alexi and the pony. we need to hold russia accountable so that we need not mark any more tragic milestones like this one today, so that the brave, resilient people of ukraine can finally see a just and lasting peace. thank you madam president. i time. so you've just been listening to the u. n. a. beg your pardon, the us ambassador to the united nations. now, a number of speakers have already taken the floor and are also expected more than
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20 speakers. this as we come up on the 2 year mark after the beginning of the ukraine war, the secretary general of the un spoke. so united states is just spoken and were expecting of russia and a short while. gabriel elizondo is of the un headquarters in new york. okay, but i wonder what you made of that speech. we just heard one quote for you. only one party is the aggressor in this war and only one party can end the u. n. and basset or lindsey thomas greenfield, was obviously referring to russia here. yeah, that's an interesting point. um, but she said that before in the last 2 years, so a lot of what we've heard from linda thomas greenfield, the us and bastard of u. n. was what we have been hearing for the past 2 years. that's not to diminish what she said. of course, it's just to point out that here we are 2 years later and clearly the words by the
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united states have not changed the dynamics. if anything right now is we all know ukraine is not doing so well on the battlefield, right? they're short on weapons. they have not been able to advance in their counter offensive that did not yield the success that day or the united states had hoped. and we see that russia is now taking back some territory that ukraine has held. so i add that all up combined with the fact that the us congress is now deadlocked on sending more a to ukraine. and you have a situation where the us and bastard, the un clearly is trying to rally support for ukraine. you saw there in her speech . but what she is saying is not necessarily anything new, other than the by the administration announced on friday more sanctions against
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russia. but beyond that, clearly ukraine is in a difficult spot, and the us aside from the speech is, is not able to provide much more right now. but gabe, thank you very much for that. recap, i know you are listening to everything is being said, the un security council right now as found my list, 25 speakers, the us was the 7 speaker. russia is the 11th. so i expect maybe in about 15 minutes or so will be listening to that and speaking to you again. thank you. good. after 2 years of war, fewer ukrainians believe in victory, the country is running out of ammunition. as gabriel said, the army is withdrawing troops and key cities and us support of ukraine is in doubt . from the pro now run. mcbride reports on the war leaves and its wake. a way to the south and east that any pro region has been a witness to the changing phases in this world. after the full scale russian invasion, it was a major transit route for civilians fling west. it's been
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a place for rapidly assembled. divisions of ukrainian troops, including for last summer, has failed counter offensive. and with russia is when you push it's a refuge for some of the last civilians to be moved out from the town of of div come before it fell like 84 year old being rescued from the basement. me out the she lifted me up by my arms because i couldn't walk by myself from their vehicles waiting for us to take us to safety. oh cool. on the 1st anniversary of this rule, ukraine could celebrate games, like driving the russians back from the seeds khaki, but in the north, no celebrations this year. but reconstruction efforts to be able to stay in the tax cools, mold damage, but citizens bought a bought the i have experienced and construction. and i can see the results of my work and how it benefits those who have suffered from the war for cisco claims covina. as a similarly headstone region in the south,
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while back under ukraine's control is still under russian bombardments. so to the major pull to the data, although ukrainian success is against russian warships, i've seen the blacks the fleet forced back, allowing more grading ships to pass on the wide scale attacks on ukraine's energy system. as rush it did last year. have yet to happen. this winter you sense though, a growing weariness, especially among families of soldiers fighting that the front for so long against the backdrop of waiting international support in the town of boucher north of keep father and today i live in, says he witnessed 1st hand suspected will crimes carried out by russian troops, which way did you allow people to hold for them? but at the same time that is disappointment. we have the right of over the international a reducing without it. so it's probably what i do have lot's at the nearby bridge of at a pin low not by retreating ukrainian soldiers. thousands of civilians followed the
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full of keys, seemingly just days away. 2 years on a new bridge has now been opened, while the original will be kept as a memorial and the man who was at the defense of keeping those early days. so it looks on some sort of sky has been installed as the new head of ukraine's armed forces in an attempt to change the country's military fortunes. he will soon have new weapons to help like f 16 find to jets, have a more sophisticated attack drones and continuing support from most of your us support, though remains far more doubtful. and back into the pro, another indicator points to how grandma prospect for the 3rd year, a full scale will. the military cemetery of graves, freshly dug. i never expend mcbride else's era. do you mean probably you crate is really air strikes, have targeted a house full of people in darrow, by killing at least 24 palestinians. many of the dead are children. some of the
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wounded have been taken to a nearby ox, the hospital. all of this in the gaza strip, but the facilities has extremely limited capabilities. there were also other strikes in areas of guys, including the south, near rough, the little sauce, alexa hospital, which is the only function in the hospital, and the central government has received many didn't injured most of phone with children, women, an hourly, we expect to receive many more victims, as reported by the ambulance service, who is still a, the a tech side this attack comes within the framework of genocide and the continuous integration against how people, as you can see with not equipped to receive such large numbers of victims. okay, we're going to take a very short break. we're going to reset. we will be back at the top of the hour with a full slate of world news. and of course, that you've been following us with our, you know, that we're following and carrying the speeches live that are happening at the un security council. we are expecting russia to speak as we approach the 2 year mark
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since the start of the ukraine. the if a child does not die from the bombing, he will die from the cold that no clothes, no food, nothing. no diapers was 5 in children in attends of one square metre towards without having a hostages. right now, the specs for the government of the country for texas on october 7th, this government failed miserably. discussing the defining issues of our times. what military, what government, what multi national doesn't want access to this hyper hyper, hyper powerful. they are exploring the very real, dangerous and checked artificial intelligence. how does
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a ice change the laws of the war? we're talking about a technology that is built on the basis of concentrated surveillance. power, like the world has never seen the studio b, p a. i series on a jersey the business latest is brought to you by, i guess, as i live slowly on, one of your, this makes modern pleads the and we are taking you live to proceedings at the united nations headquarters in new york, the russian ambassador to the u n is speaking, it was copied under dictation. good to those up as a year ago. the western block. okay. see if it was very much tried to promote its peaceful initiatives which in essence were reduced to the cutting.
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the statement from orwell. war is peace. if it was the same time the west co finley instilled in act dimansky who was no rocket scientist when it comes to strategic strategic thinking, the absurd illusion that with western support, he could defeat russia on the field of battle. particularly certain gentleman from the wonderful garden i tried very hard for home, anyone who was not part of the, the golden 1000000000 or a trash. yes, the european union also following orwell continued to some supply weapons to the care of regime using the money from the peace fund. another year has passed since then to create a new crane has completely failed and it's loudly broadcast, counter counter offensive. and yet the west continues to.

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