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to the hospital with fearless, just as of just behind me, hundreds of people have been back to h as an in depth coverage thailand states it's future on fossil fuels, no renewable. i'll just use teams on the ground, bring you closer to the heart of the story. the consequences of israel's war on gaza is causing a maritime prices in the red sea. one that has drawn in major powers likes the united states, the u. k. and china. so is the red sea becoming fully militarized? this is inside store the hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much enjoying the red sea? it's one of the busiest shipping roots in the world. and one that's been a source of contention for some time. everything fighters in yemen have been targeting vessels. they say are linked to israel since the war on cause that began
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. they've also recently banned ships from the us and britain from their surrounding waters. vessels being re routed, have caused considerable delays and come at a high cost. the us and u. k. of launch several air strikes against the targets and yemen in an effort to stop the attacks on ships. they're also launching a multinational force to protect trade, which the u is now joining. so is the red sea now becoming fully militarized, and should protecting trade outweigh other issues? we'll put that to our guess. first, this report from my hobby. what's the british owned call go ship island is the latest merchant ship to be targeted by humans who's the rebels just days earlier, another u. k registered ship, the ruby mail was hit. it now stands at risk of sinking in the gulf of aden. of these strikes and the red sea are hiring efforts to protect the maritime car door that connects europe and the mediterranean to asia. the european union has approve the establishment of defense naval admission to work alongside us led coalition. so
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far, the pentagon says it's operation and the region has been successful in protecting cargo ships, sailing through what has become perilous waters. do some of the missiles get through every now and then? yes, we've seen that happen. but for the majority of the time, our, our engagements have been successful, our allies engagements have been successful. and we know the importance of this wide array. we know that 10 to 15 percent of the world's commerce flows right through here. the u. s. n u k. have launch several is facts against who's the target india. but the who these who insist they are targeting ships linked to israel, say they want stuff until the end. it's month long. go and gaza. this all the way up to charlotte and the senate in support of the posting and people's just cause. and in response to the american british aggression on our country. the many who see armed forces carried out 3 qualitative military operations. the 1st operation was
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conducted by the missile force and the unmanned aerial vehicles of the many armed forces targeting zionist enemies in southern occupied post starting was allowed hostilities in the red sea a significantly affecting global trade with european shipping companies. feeling the pinch ships being rerouted to avoid the suez canal, increasing transit times and costs. but experts are skeptical additional military intervention, both due to the rainy impact fees. the fact that the united states has designated the hudy's, the terrorist organization, and europeans are coming to this move at the same time. will leave the who do use to increasingly view the us britain in europe all in one block. and that will lead to more tax on european ships. you also had the embry, which the recap, live carrier, also finding itself at risk due address in the past 24 hours. so more tax or you have to have this lucy's have previously said that we consider the strategy if more
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humanitarian aid was allowed into gaza. but was no seized by insights. the and more countries sending the naval ships to the region concerns are growing about the impact of a fully militarized rates. see, but i haven't looked at it out, is there a for inside story? the. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests and on correct the tool go on a cash. she's a researcher at entre university and examines golf, foreign policy, security threat strategies and political culture and single port. stop ro, scott, i'm pretty this head of the maritime transport research group at the university of plymouth. and then london found items to me, a research fellow with the middle east and north africa program at chatham house. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story. find out, let me start with you today. the u. s. and the u. k. one, several airstrikes against her with the targets in yemen in order to try and stop these attacks on ships. but the who is the say that they won't stop their attacks
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until israel ends. it's war on gaza. will additional military intervention actually to turn the earth these yes. what, how much? thank you for having the 1st and foremost and a 2nd. i think overall i share your concern i'm, i'm very broad that the, that i'd see is becoming noted mostly because of the blood that is about to spill over. and i think of that is something we have not yet seen the consequences of it that he sent a sex by the united states sunday. united kingdom obviously have been a qualitatively targeted specific troubleshooting asylum areas and other military capabilities. but i have a huge dog that they would actually, the, the ability to actually stop the heavy attacks on that and see or make a fundamental military a does a military defense in a country like yemen. let's not forget, the amount is for the default times bigger than lebanon, and obviously the whole thing capabilities have been savvy and they have developed
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and it would be extremely, i used to think that this new attacks under, i'd see a basically developed since october 7. they have ready more than anyone thinks, actually for the maritime effects. and i think the we have not seen even half of what they are about to do and that they've got so obviously, no, i don't think that would make a fundamental difference. none of what that does. ignition of the whole thing is as an article by the united states. in fact, it will have a account that productive. and i think the big body of right now is what you have is youtube's position in the middle, which is the same thing. also another that a position, but to call and get to the defense one better than an attack one. i think that the attempt to have a thin line between that i can you, i'm and under protecting international by the time will come into this to the next few days. and i think that it will not be as a clean, as your pope's ultimately at one point someone will be killed from the whole case
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or the other end. and then it will start sending you around a $54.00 i and a face foot face was more or less from different keys and which and i think we are going to see a, a bit to love the days i had been that i'd see i'm pushing up to the, to the us and u. k. are also launching a multinational force to project trade of you is now going to be joining that as well. from your perspective. does that mean that the red sea is now becoming fully militarized? so so it's a difficult question because i think the problem here at the end of the problem here, how the rest in countries, especially the ones who are heavily using this vote for international commerce commodity quote. because my, the direct from who these since 201415, they actually paused inside the human. what does this, the expectation that tuesday is long, they are gonna try to, in the security of international covers. and what was the expectation of
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international? i mean, countries or public opinion on, on the side of the human. so in terms of militarization since it's the pipe, i mean, really critical road of trades. and since it's at the heart of the world commercial rolled, which might affect other votes of the international commerce as well, we might see further implications of more for your book as the previous speaker mentioned, i don't think this is gonna prevent any other effects for, for these the reps, the because the purpose of ethics is actually to get more attention from the international countries as who is being a more global actor or, or closing down self as a global actor. rather than an actor on the merging in the human or functioning in the and so this is why even if we have because they sion on the side of the best and partner if this is going to be more efficient on the aspect of protein. so this
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will be a 0 sum game rather than a game which is going to ring for the piece, the rest, the stopper us. i just want to take a step back for a moment to look at the larger picture here. if you could just talk our viewers through the consequences so far that these hostilities are having when it comes to global trade and, and what those, those consequences might be for global trade longer term. thank you very much for having no more comments. first of all, and thank you very much for the question. and what we're seeing so far is that we have seen a reduction by 40 percent of the vessels passing through this is coming out. so it means that there's the buses by using this for this kind of island. that's why you see on a daily kind of basis recently versus being composers. and of course us. but the guys are, you are not formations. nearly 10 percent of the global trade is passing through. so there's come out. and of course, having an impact there, you know, we're having a 5 percent 80 bucks in the over
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a global operations of the amount of time sector. but the thing is that we have to stay also take a step back and see who needs to do what this company. as you may know, the bottom i cannot is facing some problems because of the nino. and he's also having a 40 percent dropping types of crossing some of the vessels passing through the actual associates holistically. yes. the overall systems are having some problems in terms of supply chains. but the facts so far we've seen that they're kind of reacting. ok. you know, we're not having something similar to what we have seen in depths of the companies . for example. yes, there is some inflated inflection in, in the over for age range. so the phrase rates have increase for nearly 1000 years dollars a box, and people are pique who shot back to nearly 2000 years dollars. but that's not gonna store off. if we compare it back to what's happening by can call it doesn't we have $5000.00 here's dollars for contain is moving from asia to get them. i think it's something and dissipated. yeah. so i can look for whatever it as it gets
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you pulled up and is a satellite too complicated, probably not the most of the supply chains. and it's, it shows that we have to do additional insurance. we have to use uh, other issues as well. so it's not a very black and white concert, it's kind of like a central park kind of thing, but causing to over logistics. nobody has been till i saw you reacting to some of what's the address was saying there. so i want to get your perspective on this as well. i mean, how much damage is all this doing to global trade? how much do these hurt with the attacks in the red sea jeopardize international commerce right now? so is the note from the records and as the speak, previous speaker mentioned uh from a brother perspective um, more than helpful to international commerce at the moment i have, i mean the directing. they are rolled from the reps the and the problem here is this, these things can happen. there might be another issue, $2.00 to $3.00 director role. but the problem here in the rest, the, we don't know how long this is gonna take to make sure that the rest the space for
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international commerce. so the problem here is the, is that there is no time limit. we don't know then or how will these are going to answer your attack. so then having to national companies or all these organizations been wrong, the wrong this a company's hope they are going to insure to trade. so there's a time problem. the other problem, the scope of the effect, so we don't know how much the other international countries or regional countries are going to involved with this. because the know once there's no figures on interrupt the, there will be further problems. there might be further from that was in the heart of africa or for the other got smaller keys, who would like to see your money in a stable then secure zone. once we have all this is happening in the it's already unstable into region. so this is why is not only to the timeframe, but also the scope and the intensity of the attacks might change the regional dynamics. further,
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let me ask you how much of what the her with these are doing now is about essentially the her with these wanting to come add more attention on the world stage. how much is all of that playing into this? so it's definitely that a man goal actually this is i've had the opportunity for them to a project about originally and internationally after they see they have finished the project and get domestically. they do have those sorts of what the last 2 speakers said that i think that would be fuel long term impact of these ethics. 2 of them are the domestic on 2 of them outside the domestically speaking we have, we will have a huge crisis in one of the humans, most of 5 of humans to strategic goods, which is fishing as an industry that will have an impact for tens of thousands of families and obviously the 2nd part of this will have is an impact of the prices of food and insurance. the i'm and as i come to the overall, which is already have been a problem due to the water and many other factors for the last 10 years extensively
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. i think what this was do in the long term is it's really 1st influence and inspire other groups of the other end of the heart of africa in the sense of even a criminal gang smart just i, there was a kind of groups, but by to see me a lot of other things that i think that that much stuff is already done because especially when it comes to motor time security and when it comes to insurance and shipping. first and foremost, it's about perception. and i think that tax have destroyed the perception in many ways. the other aspect that we'll have on the long term is, and this is the thought about as difficult right now, is how do you not engage relatively with how it is, but also don't let them get away with this? because there is no guarantee that if they get away with this a tax but and fee is whether them or the add on in. so anyone else can do the same with that. see. and then it becomes kind of a hostage bullying costs on the long. that is
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a problem. and i think the health is definitely have a lot of domestic motives for it that have a lot of ideological motives for it. and obviously it just comes through all so help the long specifically i a, the international of the pollution of the gods. then that's actually not that a bad idea for them. but 1st and foremost, this is probably the 1st opportunity to benefit once a global, if they market and the position themselves right now, you know, in wall street in london and sing about an every where they will not head off in the past. it's fabulous here to fight. are there talk about the fact that these saying that there with these want to have an impact on the global market, essentially right now with these attacks. i want to ask you, cuz you mentioned the global supply change with a few moments ago in your previous answer. what effect is all this having right now on global supply chains and, and how much does this ultimately increase the cost for it for shipping companies? and also when is there the knock on effect that the consumer will face when it
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comes to increase and prices? mm. hm, but i think there was one kind of so the question just to clarify, can we make believe especially, and that's the one you just ask is about the global supply chains. my, my gut feeling says that for the global supplies in spain, but we will be medium of because we see that the moment that's just various, i mean, but the freight rates have increased. we're talking probably be part of the increase in terms of cost for molding that kind of goes to percent. and if we come down to regional level, again, it was something about congress like egypt or to me that in and congress, which approximately, approximately cost want to be in a deeper. and then they, they impact this big because i don't forget that. so i can know the north futile, for example, we're talking about a 30 percent favorites. if occasion by the for talking about sab places like that here. so they're going to find at least these as a diversification is much further for, for the quick lane is coming from asia to take it. so that nods even further to the overall cost as a split, talking about the global picture. you know, i'm a single brother moment. 70 percent of the global trades is in,
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in that asia trade. so it's not passing. in other words, through sort of that, i'd say, bob, of course, the other 50 percent has been effective because don't forget because at bonham i kind of, i was facing the same problem. so i looked at the kind of go that was as going for the east coast of the united states and his boss, a mentor buster there and see. and i was pushing for the cape of good call. so the thought is causing another additional, i mean, back to the us as well in canada and the tool we know that there, with these are involved in negotiations with saudi arabia to formerly in the war in yemen. i'm from your perspective, do the who with these believe that these attacks are going to give them more leverage at the negotiating table with saudi arabia. thank you. how much for bringing this up? so this is the 90 problem now in the regional politics because we know who these are climbing. i mean the, the, they would like to run or move the wider part of the young men. so not only the one they will at the moment,
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but they would like to go further am and still to do this and to be the level force . and am i to be international lady called noised. they need to be in a negotiation table to politically. and if they have this barbara in the rest, the if they feel like international public opinion is seeing them as a new book coming for something to do, at least even if they're already gold. nice as a terrorist organization. this is a branding for, for them, for down a. so this is going to make them more powerful in the negotiation table. because if you add a text on your mind, if there's more conflict happening in your mind or in the board, it okay. my name's read. see, this is not going to make just this email are keeps happy because they would like to see a stable. yeah. and this is why they actually start the military intervention. this is why haven't do something mom, and she did all these policies towards the amounts. so this negotiation table is critical for her teeth 1st for they are domestic position to increase their leverage inside the mind as a, as,
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as all the components of you have any society or political scott at the moment. secondly, in terms of regional policies, there has to be an issue in how these unsolved these of course, because the head they have, but they had the war. but also with the older here on is a supporting partner of i also want to use who do i mean, the aim of policies is not to be a proxy of it on only stapled like to be a truck, but to ally of your own about the purpose is not to be on the proxy, it's more like the lego cover of the human who's corporate thing, but you know, so if they have a powerful handy the negotiation table, this is going to help down the road. so you don't and that, i mean, drugs are the, are the so the needs m cleared source of power to be powerful against the regional hedge of money. and to the sake of the, your international educational course. a side or
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a there was these had said before that they'd reconsider this strategy. if more humanitarian aid was allowed into god. so i want to ask you if you think that that's a likely scenario, and if more humanitarian aid gets into gaza, or if there were to be another, sees fire, which of course doesn't look a minute right now would that stop these attacks? i don't want to get into the games, but i do genuinely think that the house is when they acted like on this on, on attacking that and see they do believe that they're helping the size of the weather ineffectual world. that's a through, i know is a different conversation and obviously with the health is like every other. yeah. many sides. i think um, the tools of conflict resolution the supplies, which is no one good stewing too much and then everyone's on out gets to be kept. so definitely walking out of some sort of an aide towards that. obviously also because the hood is few that have dotted what they want out of this partially.
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definitely in my opinion, with a change. because also it will end up being the what i goodness that young man is, there was something it was that stops on the hotels don't stop. there is no nation . i the how for that domestically, even among the eyes of the on support this, i do think that actually what might also happened or what might can make a difference in the house. the behavior is if saw the actually asked them to stop because big bought type now of the house, the math to at that that it see is because they see that have secured the deed was solved there. it'd be a no matter what they do or don't do or miss. do they have that deal for deed for granted, then for sure. so it was solved. yeah, that'd be a way of doing that. would probably make a difference. i think even before our heads up, however, the entire regional and international response to human to the house is aside from bumping them like the us. and that you have being one of 2, either trying to play the game of we told you saw, which has been to you. i am to solve the position 2 of the west,
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2 of you we told you. so we told you, so the thing is about this, which is a predict that mature on child discount to say the least on it has sort that, it's on the engine, it's to stay safe life. but chinese, the products, the use of others to have done that, you have to have this in a different deals under the table. oh no. obviously they didn't get up and the trying to not say anything because of the optics, like jordan and egypt. and because obviously they don't want to look like they have bought difficult edition of doing something. what it was that and that at that, so invited to a frame does have made that agent an international. you're going to act in a total satisfaction with the way of totally opposing way is absolutely helping the houses and i think that we continue to happen anyways, not just on palestine insulated issues, buttons, so many phones in the me that is i think nothing would remain the same post october 7th, and that applies even to the other, the flood zone and the speed we already have had with saudi arabia and the houses.
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they both have hope that things will continue. but i doubt that we continue to be the same, even estimate of the stops. and even if the motor of both these stop that, that's the one that it's cheap, we will not be able to go back and do the same at the engine and the u. n was hoping to do after the solve. this handed them an agreement with the hope this ought to be better than agreement between the houses on the other side. before october 7th stopped. it was, it looked like you were nodding along to some of what side are, was saying there, it looks like you want to jump in. so i'm going to give you a chance to do that. but i also want to ask you, what would the full militarization of the red sea look like going forward? oh, that's a very interesting question. i have to be honest for you, mr. lazy some of the over at m. c. i bro, lucy, convoys going up and down. of course i'm coming at 77, know my time security, the expense of them coming into my group. that seems to be slightly difficult at that moment by, you know, i, some more and more forces on, i mobilize them,
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they've age and maybe that would be probably the case. and of course, you know, that's cool. probably a bit of the complexity because you know, you have to have convoys of the vessels going from one point to another. yes, it's going to be fast and by, you know, we, we have to make the combustion at the end of the day over the overall cost of copying, convoy system, running on $1.00 side, some coming, 3 navigation from the cape of good hope. so, you know, from what i'm hearing from the experts, that's the way that you adjusting the viewing is like, um, it doesn't, it seems to be like a nice situations ordering from a piece for the future. and of course, you know, i don't want to just come piece of this on the fact that, you know, it's a little bit harder zone over the nice around spring and causing craze. so, you know, we have to keep in mind that every time the vessels are passing through the agent, they have to pay a lot of money to insurance premiums. uh, uh, i, you know, it does. it seems to be, uh, a nice way to go forward cuz she thing, especially if we have inflation in most of the european calendars,
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and that is not helping the economies to, to boost and to go forward. but to looking at the red sea um russia had also shown interest in establishing a naval base of port sedan. and in 2021. um that essentially didn't go through and i wanna ask you what else is going on in the area that showcases just how important a route that it is. so the role of, i mean the, the side of international commerce is already, i mean, discussed in the show about let's, let's pull more of a on the aspect of military involvement. we know that you, you has moved to a basis on the side of front of africa and on the borders of, i mean the many is the site the have, as you mentioned, the involved with the terms of pressure or the for the, for us out to be involved with the, the 30 prisons in uh, in the side of the world. we have turkish involvement in the, for an approximate cutting, the sub saharan africa. so we have is really and chinese in roland there. and we
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have other interest international companies, especially rest and partners who are partially dire with the or mr. prisons or with some part of the local actors in terms of providing uh, stability and peace in the region. especially for the horn of africa, we just connecting rest the with um, with yemen. so this is definitely an internationally target uh for many states to be visible in the politics, to make sure that they are military relations are good with the local officers to make sure that the i saved from the terms them or any act of i mean further problems or conflict, but um, the thing is going on at the moment is actually bringing in the, off the man to the globes. so we knew that there were a near my people knew that there's a war in your mind. they knew that as put in security, more than 10000000 people are in secure,
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within your apply full supply. but what's happening in the red sea right now roll more it into the mentor as well. so although all this is happening and it's really a changing design and because of maybe international commerce and the security a front seat, i hope this is going to bring further attention for the sake of human needs to sign what they are. think since 2015 or even before they, they might need, they might get more attention. so there might be further and real actions that you're suffering just. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much to all of our guests, but tools don't cash cypress, got them, but it is and found out it must be me. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website of 0. com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ag inside storage. you can also during the conversation on x, r handle is as a j inside story. for me, how much enjoy and holding it,
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