to run deep, but the devastation of the country's precious ecosystems may take the longest to hear people in power documents, the environmental impacts of the fight to and follows ukrainian war prizes investigators, as they collect evidence of what they described as eco site ukraine, ground 0 on the jersey to polls for an immediate cease fire in gaza and growing louder, but he's really prime minister benjamin netanyahu remains defined, insisting he's military was backed down until homos is destroyed. so what does that mean for negotiations, and how serious isn't it from yahoo? about continued diplomatic efforts, they seized inside story the

out of the and welcome to the program. i'm don't know how old and 30000 palestinians killed tens of thousands more injured warnings of a famine and the health care system that the u. n says its own, this is on its knees, yet the bottoms keep fully own gaza. nearly 5 months since the start of israel's devastating war. there's no laptop in its daily attacks on friday. i'm also announced that some of the captives held in gaza had been killed in his rightly strikes catawba, u. s. and egypt to be mediating to express these 5. but the fee is the constant bombardment could threaten those discussions and israel's killing of more than a $100.00 pounds of students, as they scrambled to collect food. i don't says they use for the threatening to inflame the region, but prime minister benjamin netanyahu insists his ministry offensive will go on until these goals are achieved. we've already discussed with guests, but 1st this report from when we consume sharif

mexico at the time of talk sort of ceasefire. optimism about negotiations for the possibly troops in causal interrupted by the killing of more than 100 palestinians and testing as to be to, to collect food. many of the victims were taken to causal cities, fairly functioning on ship, a hospital o u n team that met some of the victim says many of those they still have suffered gunshot wounds. this hospital is treating more than 200 people that were injured yesterday. you have seen people with gunshot wounds, you've seen up to fees, and we have seen the children as young as 12 that were injured. yes. street a group safe. thursday's killings undermined the immediate need for the ceasefire as food and supplies can and took off. 05 months of his was will, has led to a humanitarian catastrophe. a majority of palestinians of displays and stuff in the middle, but there was a tens child's officially registered in the hospital as having starved to death.

a very sad threshold, similar sat as to 30000 best. we reached all over garza and similar like those these, a official records the, the unofficial numbers can unfortunately be expected to be higher as well as relentless flights of raising questions about whether it's really prime minister. benjamin netanyahu is even invested in a deal as it's negotiate, as opposed to find in agreement the negotiations for a cease fire. the, the, the, you know, the sticking point. there has always been the end, the game. israel has been adamant that it's going to effectively destroy god, so it doesn't use those words, but we, we see what they're doing on the ground. we, we hear the rhetoric coming out of is really political circles. they want to make life on livable. they're trying to ethnically cleanse guys as part of their so called greater israel plan. as long as that remains their intent. there's just not

a lot of incentive for him us uh to, to agree to, to agree to a deal. as well as bowman campaign is also costing you the lives of captives headed in vasa. the military being of high miles kaufman, forget, says, is really s flags can 7 captives being held in district? the group lanes is really a tax for the depth of more than 70 of the $150.00 estimate. the captive still hasn't garza, the families have been demanding these really government to move to help them from and as to nothing. yeah. who's wound looming, assault and ruffle, is inevitable, after forcing more than a 1000000 palestinians to shelter and shouting, there will be even more suffering and destruction forgot some shoddy arches, eva, for inside story, the as well,

let's bring it out. guess now in terms of easier, see, bailey inform is really minister of justice who initiated negotiations of the also piece the codes here in the abraham frat associated professor of conflict resolution at the institute, and also in the bahama to chicago, a professor of conflict resolution and diplomacy at george mason university. i will welcome gentleman to you or we are talking essentially about torques. now we know that around 10 days ago in paris negotiations took place with senior representatives of the us, katasha, egypt, and israel, that those took square constructive enough. that talks continued here in doha, involving how much as well with egyptian and category media is shuttling between. we know the broad outlines of a deal up to 6 weeks of oppose in the fighting 40 captives to be released for around 400 prisoners. a ratio of one to 10,

the repositioning of something is really forces in the return of some palestinians to their homes in the gaza strip. but we have no deal as yet. you'll see bailey let me put the question to you. in its most straightforward terms, is israel more particularly than nothing? nothing. yeah. who government, serious about talks to end this war about talk to and this will also show, i mean, no government day is going to have an endless say, well, if you ask me about the guarantees, rarely government and it's at the to do with the 2 state solution my answer will be very different, but a i a, i hope that it won't take that too long. i mean president bowden said the yesterday that the night they, they place it to be a good the beginning or from a done on the dance. i'll say mileage, and apparently these are the, the iphones, that the question, so the about the length of the line and the,

the number of the, all the ballasting in a general rece the will be exchanged, a full, a, keeping a state easily keeping it. and so on, but they do, they place the question again is what the doing the ceasefire. it would be possible to talk with the file base also about the much bigger solution for our problem. and even, even they will crises eval between ease writing but his dns, dns, a 48 a may be maybe it is an opportunity to try and talk seriously about a peaceful solutions as you allude. but there's no doubt whatsoever at, within the nothing you know, nothing you're going to about the position towards a 2 state solution. they have ruled that explicitly abraham frat let,

let me move on to you. do you believe that negotiations are being conducted in good faith from the is riley sides of how do you see the willingness of how much to cooperate? oh, absolutely not. there is no good 5th and this negotiation there is no trust in this negotiations. i think the solve the major obstacles to a successful seed is buyer, basically, and i'm up show what bennett in yahoo, bite wing, extremist. but then the whole government was from this negotiations was sort of these all the as lady kept those give a seized by a for 6 weeks only, and then continue the war afterwards too. and as it goes off the map, that's basically what that is, why you lived in and as lady position on this negotiation. now how much who has only this issue, all the cap is that they're able to negotiate the why you want a mass or any of

a part of the would give them a it's only the content that has, which is the captives in order to be after 6 weeks to be applied again and continue the war. and now we, we know that the young lady in pensions from what we see is basically the mass exposures of the experience and gaza. that domain does in have a not happy people, you know, for the phone gases, there is about 70 percent of homes. and guys i have been destroyed. the infrastructure has been destroyed all to me and people are displaced. so good luck with the construction and this is not the whole thing and that the american, a better solution is not giving cash. what it says back out about 6 weeks, they wouldn't be seized by it. so no one has given cash. what else is best would it be? see is buy out. so that's the reason. i think there is a huge gap between the 2 bought this between buy zigler. i'm us and bill we

negotiate in good faith that we're going to lease to a better minute ceasefire, sustainable fees via that chances as own a break it through in this negotiation. but the man is very unlikely in my opinion . okay, well that question of why would, how must negotiate away the key card is something we will return to. but festival to continue just drawing the broad outlines of this discussion. let me bring it in by let me check holly to look at the international parameters of a deal, the coals growing up, allowed to have a more frequent now from around the world. from europe, from latin america, from africa, from arab states across the middle east. of course, for an immediate cease fire. to what extent does that pressure do you think way on the netanyahu government, a still slow months. i don't know the song, the basic mistake,

but let's low got a competitive route pro to we need to differentiate between the process and the process and do how i am k o i know in practice. so no one can deny that is a degree method process, but i want to know, can we clean that out some the pragmatic pragmatics. that means the very beginning and the results of this process so far. no, because we have a lot of a lost in translation problems when we in the, in the house and watching them what i'm sweating. when we talk about she's funny, i've been meaning to assume which is put in the fire. oh, this is the logic b, b c, 's of all fixes illusion processing. however, the installation of the is that the nothing yeah, was both trying to do not to go that way and are considered in the maximum of true sport, an open ended pool. this is why we're coming up with a 6 week pause,

so far the, these are the end, it position has shifted from what it was back. in late november when we had the 1st exchangeable authors and prisoners, thanks to the got the mediation. unfortunately, the white house, the, the vine that was of watching the hope for that by next week with me. i'm a big girl, but unfortunately we're not talking about on just a full for the use of my age is a truthful because my age and this is fine for the rest of the world. unfortunately, these offices and the auditors are coming out. we're coming together therefore i think we, we maintain the process for the weeks to come, but i don't see the line at the end of that the. that means we're not talking about the same. what do you think of any particular would? which means booking the fire out for good and then shifting both the legs and to the most opening, which agent between some costs, socialism and what is about the policy is gonna gain at this point so far. there

has not been this mind, and i love the point i would like to add it briefly is right. and that then, you know, basically goal set and in this process not to reach, this is fine, but he went but just to find a way out for the hostages and programs, this is going to be the scene in holiday that could be used by any position therefore, i think that is less, less, l was indeed the need for some bethany go. she has been in communication. what do we mean when we talk about just fine? okay, well you bring up the by the ministration, of course, the, by the administration, the united states. israel is closest, allied, conspicuous, uh, in the international community for not cooling for an immediate cease fire. there is a resolution possibly coming at the security council for what is described as a temporary humanitarian ceasefire. as soon as practicable, i'm going to ask you, i'll see bailey with the, in the,

in the t's only us pressure is that could force the nothing yahoo government to change its calculus from concentrating not just on a 6 week temporary pause with unknown a follow on but instead to be looking at something more lost to what says to for he feels thinking about pressure. this is why he's not being done here. you're going to done you. how is the legitimate and the elected prime minister. but a, you have many voice, the many voices, and many groups in these way. and you have the, the security establishment, which is a different view than a anthony l. you'll have a, the most of the public opinion. they're going to be copying on both say a which are not the simple people say, and it any out that office a be in the position is the they will join the government,

the guns a is. so the company, the behind the, was the, to the fat a. yeah, but the difference is about that, how do you manage it? the next day is tips. but if i do not have states, i think that the point with united states is not that day. it or both is the general idea or fe, easily be including people like my sense that the main aim is to prevent from us from governing guys in the future. if that is issued, then there is no need to continue this se well to continue to less often from the south and, and to keep people and to be killed in whatever. and you, so what happened the other day with the, with the assistance to these poor people in, in guys though in the 100 people apparently a died. i don't believe that any, but the things that the, these really all me is still daily in order to,

to kill them. but these of the, the resides of offsets the sats confrontations. and it is not cold. it says dime, regretfully. and we should ask me, declined to go on the best way to prevent the best. what better way to prevent it is due to end the small any can be ended quickly. if we, we all show that how much is not going to be filed of the, of the morning after. oh god for them guys. mostly both my want to to tell me that if you don't mind, i'm the only in the sense that if that is the simplistic and goal simply to ensure the time us cannot go from the gaza strip. i mean, the nothing you know, who government has put out a one page document suggesting that some unknown groups will simply materialize out of the population and take over that role. i mean, that's not a, that's not a feasible plan. b is it?

i agree with you that you do is not a it is not the plan. you didn't call it the plan. it does not is government. it was never confirmed that accepted by the government. i believe that heavy brook heavy he brought it to the government. a many, a ministers, i don't know whether my joint not will does reject the deed. and the excuse me for saying you get these really very, i'm assuming those these groups are not going to govern guys. is what cannot the, a dress, something like that that can do the can be a kind of a plus b sheep in it before for what we solved, lied for a year or 2 a week. the main, think of the price, you know, sorry, be, and then it to should be the price, you know, so we the, or if we haven't, but then the, but the thing is 32 is even better. okay. let's look at how much in order of this abraham proud you say that home us has no incentive to negotiate,

certainly not to give up its key called the cap tips. however, i do want to ask you whether at a certain point the pressure weighs on how much as well, because we've crossed the 50000 mach now in terms of palestinians killed. in this war, the vast majority of the population living under tremendous pressure within the gaza strip, now facing a show to dive aid facing family and children dying of malnutrition. that incident we talked about on thursday, a absolutely representative of what is happening to palestinian people. ostensibly governed by hamas. at what point does a mazda is calculation change, or to do something to save the palestinian people? well, let me test the disagree with us. have been over to you said that the goal is to ensure that pam us will not go with them and goes in the following day. this is totally false because how much has already be at the ones that are question has

probably be around several times that the exit think i think about con, garbage. i think the government that's totally outside politics. so a specialist i kind of makes who would be able to join and one does that, and so that will come out. so this is the solution. if this is the case, the how about the bottom, the bottom as user problem said above design and government at all. so how about says accepted the unit, the government with the policy that mentioned all those are the which is also what the bible wants. the policy, the detroit and gods. but the, but on the contrary method now has repeatedly repeatedly said that he's not accepting me, but i must move up the, the policy and also to see that you will see bill and signed the old agreement with them. it's unfortunate to see you with somebody that he's defending nothing, you know, despite on his piece of thoughts about the method in the past. and so all you have

uh, do you want to come in on that? no, the visa is not makes a big deal. and the monk mom, it's done by the time it's done by you'll say please do we think that an attorney i would like to meet to see to and, and defend him in front of you. i am very thoughtful. i'm about to defending. i'm not doing that. i said the whole piece of the molding of the abraham. i beg your pardon, let. let's put those issues to one side and could consider them the same for you. now i continue please, because i did look at, you know, why am i got the they never met any a whole by saying that this has been born because again, it's a method the older people. and they said that these about like something given the also you know, going to be. and also you are saying that the is not part of the drywall domestic

out about happened yesterday though we have new times we'll see joe done for a washington post or put unfair to me that it was due to the as somebody firing on that of what's the flow of domestic good on people, having the people that they're going to don't get for the saying that not be able to find out who if i may be, am i think that you'll see was making a slightly different point. i'm saying that they would simply standing there with a pre intention of slaughtering palestinians. let's leave that for the moment to one side. what i want to ask you about abraham is what would make, how must put aside it's preconditions and step in to it with a gesture, if you like, in the interest of saving palestinian lives to end this war. what would make, how high must change its calculus to do things one as a better man i'm see is find out that the entire world is demanding about except

bon jovi method. now um here's to fascist. there's a small, nice and big event and i'm, i'm gonna start by the list of the web. is the man that gets these 5. so this is one tool. i think no problem government, the government involving the policy number for the house is not on the following day with the release of business from both sides. why is that? we're talking about a 100 to 20 is a to present us, but they're all, it was done to it from good policy. another prisoners in the present, most of many of them are a children with no trial, their own as many of them on. but what school the tension administered detention, but that is why you're with no trial was normal. yes. but no one is talking about that. this is, this is the issue of justice. it would be for both sides. that that was the was fun

. what it was funny give it a bit of stuff to give us about a 120 later presents, but no one mentioned that the prisoners. so what is the justice with this issue? and that's why, well, i guess we'll see names even more that they've been treated as list human out of somebody you with this is not acceptable, and that's why what's making, unless we have the wonderful thing, both bosses are treated as the point of human being. i don't think we're going to see an end of this lecture unfortunately. ok, mama check how we increasingly listening to this discussion. listening to the, the polls that exist between the east riley's and how much on the palestinians it feels like the united states really is the only country that holds the key to unlock this paradigm. what i want to ask you is going to change the

calculus of the byte and administration. is it going to be more violence against civilians like we saw on thursday? is it going to be domestic pressure waiting on him in the united states in an election yet? or is this really simply about bite wings own decades long determination to stand by israel no matter what? before i address your question, let me just make one comment. i have the highest respect for minnesota used to be named the girl wants to book into early ninety's, but now i print is a point in the way he is become in the corner. just take about a minute. nothing he knows action and i think we know that the more than a 100 people died, i don't think of just as more accidents. 2 other boys. yes. we mean the great power. they broke the peaceful house so. so most of those and then it happens to be united states, but the deed is a split within the us at ministration to buy documents region in particular. and

now between those so believe that the us should save the situation and should put some pressure on both sides. the storage is just fine agreement. then we move into more than romantic model, one in the student. and the other group that is led by secretary of state to bring cannot unfortunately, or even put in by doing it any else to try to get by the gate. how much and then reach what they call the day. and these are 2 old school positions, nothing. basically, i'm not sure that the number even steve is one, even kills more than 30000 individuals in go that we, we've given the position of how much because it's living should have been god. but with the blessing of those, the heads of how much a girl are willing to start, play 5 and up to $200.00 pounds. and in the video, they've seen the number of multiple working in

a know he's paying for the design. unfortunately, they are putting the blame on the idea and the whole world now has realized that we define them as with surgeon, is to provide in full military and diplomatic load for them if any of those actual so the we need to, to, to the point and the district in point wouldn't be when the by the brain can look at each other in the eye, then realize that these, the open and the 2 ports, the new is cool and there's some losses both. okay, no problem. i think as one of the more last, when do you have the position there, but i expect that's one of the key to put the pressure and also have the coverage will come put similar pressure on how much the, the shift to extend the formula beyond what's going on that kind of fortunately, and then you know, is invest in both the degree in an open ended room with no vision. the no strategies we need. and then we need to approach the end of our discussion. you'll

see bailey and i want to ask you the window of legitimacy. it's euphemistically cold. and israel this, this, this power runs by the united states of israel's actions in the past and in the occupied palestinian territories. do believe that window of legitimacy is closing. i don't think so because the defense of what's going to happen in the near future if it is possible to change the situation to go seriously for peace. we did the, the, the, all, i believe the or, well, there wouldn't be a very happy with you said a situation and then what ever use well in the buddies the yes, we agree a don't yearly and otherwise we'd be accepted by and allowed by the will of course you've got full beat, nothing like that happens, we cannot and diesel, we cannot go for peace. there is no other government in use,

right. and then i think that they, it would not be very bright future day for us. and especially for the peace campaign easley a gentleman by thanks to all our guests, you'll see bailey abraham for help and mamma to check how we. i'm thank you to you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, delta 0 dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. and you can also join the conversation on x out. handle is at a inside story for me, joe and holland, the entire team here, and that's good bye. for now. the more than half of the population of the cause of the trend is risk examined. since

the beginning of the words, they only have one meal per day. a that is coming in of the causal strip is not preaching. all of the people and people are starving. we are in as indicated by that where they're making their house as a kitchen. they start very early in the morning. they're using wood fire because there is no cooking discuss this dentist do is cooked without any specialist. they are using on your house or an alternative to the onions. it's the woods and the smoke of the fire. it makes your eyes cry and fits suffocating, but a search. how many do this every single day to give a hand to the palestinians to this place starving. and they say that this is the least of what they can give to their people. the 10s of thousands of chinese asylum seekers are risking their lives in

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