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of warring signs ensued on have welcome to the when it's cold, 1st is fine. head of the muslim holy month of ramadan view and security council posts the resolution for an immediate cessation of hostilities on friday. the power, military rapids support forces and the student use only have been battling full control of the country. and now since last april, the fighting has pushed a millions to the brink of sun and have a morgan report from the sudanese capital called to, to the parent. but it's very rapid support for says, announced on saturday afternoon that it's welcomes the united nations security council resolution calling for a ceasefire incident during the holy month of ramadan. saying that it's that does well come the resolution to allow for him any tarion assistance for those caught up in the conflicts in the capital cartoon and elsewhere around the country. but it also says that it wants to make kind of them to properly monitor, such as these fire accusing b r a be. so the news army of violating previous these fires since the conflict
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began last april. notice to the new government, which also represents the to the news army on thursday. when the united nations secretary general made a similar call announced that it does welcome the call for cease fire, but put down for conditions for the recess uh to withdraw from civilian homes and by some facilities such as water plants and power plants. but also from cities and states capital, but it took over since may last year when both the army and the recess signed what's known as the declaration of principles and decided safety of jet. though the government said that if the rest of does not withdraw from the city, it took over and congregate that specific points agreed upon by both sides. there will be no cease fire. meanwhile, fighting continued in the capital held up to him and elsewhere around the country. with this, with the new army regaining territories from the rest, half in parts of the month, the theme, the capital of her too, as well as part of the battery in the northern parts of the capital. so while both sides continued tobacco each other out, no one still has a decisive upper hand over the other to claim that their winning the past so full
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control of sudan. but civilians remained caught up in the conflict by the 2 side spots of each other out. 5000000 people on the brink of simon, according to the united nations of world food program. 9000000 people intended to displace as a result of the fighting. and 1500000 people displaced in neighboring countries. many people say that they are quite exhausted after months of fighting between the 2 sides. 18000000 in desperate need of humanitarian assistance. but so far the slicing continues between the 2 sides with no end insights. people morgan oranges 0 hard to hold as it for me and associates. i remember you can always find much more on our website out there. i don't con, follow, you will have them for you here on out a 0 off to upfront, stay with the the ship is home to survivors of losses. earthquakes, inter kit, a floating hotel,
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its features, rooms at dining, hall and entertainment facilities. social workers offer lessons to president, still recovering from there or 2. 4 to 5 year old school note is scared of entering a building after the earthquake destroyed her home. luckily, we have the c a we are leaving on a ship bill, a small world. hey, we our family and eventually they have something to look forward to. the amusement park reopened, giving minute here for the last is the most returning to normal. their playing nothing. but the trauma is never far away. after 5 months of israel's brutal bombing campaign and siege on guys, or that is killed, more than $30000.00 palestinians and seen israel facing a case of genocide at the international court of justice. negotiations continue and the cease fire may be image. but even if a ceasefire is reached, what happens next? will there be accountability for the war crimes committed as the former commander in chief of these really navy and former director of israel, secret service army,
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iowa, and then upfront by the media yellow and thank you so much for joining us, an upright. i think you must uh, as we record negotiations for a ceasefire in guys, a continue to advance a mini you're asking, even if there were to be a ceasefire. what happens next? now you've stated that you hope is rarely, society will demand and i quote security democracy and an end to the as rarely occupation of the palestinian territories because the 3 are inseparable. but this idea strays quite far from prime minister benjamin netanyahu, whose intentions, which currently suggest taking in definite control over the security and civilian affairs of guys. and how do you respond to prime minister netanyahu has plan? well, i look to respond to other than you know, because this is the beauty of democracy. um i represent myself. i do want to
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present of these are the people, many of these ladies. i agree with me, but as long as the prime minister, as much as i don't like it, you represent the state of view it. so i'm going to go see i didn't read nothing. yeah. i'm telling what i believe in. i hope this is way at least we listen. i hope the world really some of your audience, for example, and finally sees it is a democracy. i hope that we shouldn't have elections as soon as possible. and then they like people with vote um for uh for another leader. i guess my question is why do you disagree with prime minister netanyahu? you said you don't like it. what don't you like about his plan? okay, uh let me go back to elizabeth and to start uh with trying to explain uh,
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to form people um the way we understand the reality in the middle used and um, these are the point of view or the status of dollar. uh, i think that the experience, something that we couldn't imagine that ever we should face now why it is so important to stop with this. because you have to understand is that we went to a war as a way we understand before is it just or but uh, even adjustable must and because more should never be. and the goal of it says, is my the discussion or debate? oh, why this is a uh, the reason why i do not agree with nothing. you know, is that, uh the way i understand him. he do not heavy and then you don't have any dental. and just for, for him, uh, it is
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a kind of an endless war. another idea when i speak about this war, when we fight, um, how much we choose. uh, at the, from the meant the least organization. and i'm not saying or the other students are the same, but how much is organization you know, way it is a totally different type for. we are parting on to the mentions. one is on the military, bottom, on the bottom. they're just immediately the war. but the, as the most important dimension is a war of ideas. and what i claim you use if you order to defeat thomas, is not enough for this month. the is music. i mean, these are the top ability is probably because as this is what we're doing, but i've seen that the war must. and today, when you,
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when you're talking about an end to the war, one of the things that isn't yahoo is talked about in addition to the actual military engagement is the question of a palestinian state. he's saying a very explicitly at this point that a palestinian state is a non starter. i totally disagree. uh what is that the all and um, just the support might you? uh, i see that in this case. you know, uh all i do is me. if you listen to the american voice, your a bad voice, all the out of state, it's all the most of the states will sign for the peace your issue. i see just on the run and it's, you know, he's by law. how much is that? what you did not sign within the 1st do when he was, he's out of ins and most award. and if you listen to russia in china or they won't
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accept the future of the states, the only realistic view in order to bring that to this concert. so on at the job, unfortunately, is why the government today do not accept the american question because it raises an interesting point about international consensus. you, you say that the world, the dominant majority of countries around the world, the arab states, europe, etc, are all calling for 2 states. there's a, there's a similar consensus around the globe, and israel has committed war crimes. there is a similar international in global consensus that is real has contravene international law. uh, do you accept what, what consensus on those issues as well? no, i don't. why i don't and i started, i started by saying, 1st of all, is it just more and uh, way we tried to run this, but i'm making interesting just to be clear. i'm making
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a distinction between what you're calling sort of the, the inputs is for the war and the actual practices within the, in the war. there are some people who might agree with use with the war, but say in the practice of war, because 20 or 30000 people have been killed. because 2 thirds of those people are women and children because we can even conventions have been violated by, you know, bombing mosse and in schools and hospitals. because we don't problem. so many civilians have been just completely targeted that perhaps even if one were to except that the war itself was just as a, as a mission. but in practice it was still violated. so many laws. why do you think international consensus is, is, is so i the, i don't, i don't see that the international concerns. i think that this is a view of the street in many places. but i don't think that this is a view of most of the lawyers. the international know you have to understand that i have the right a laptop. every target. yes,
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it is done. and i have to, i have to explain to me something about uh, is it what, why is it working? got you so problem i think because it is the 1st well the 305 d which use it so populated area and there is no way plus tax in the gym. i thought it was out to me unfortunately without any intent. serious. this is the one reason the 2nd reason, let me ask about your 1st reason before you jump to the 2nd reason. again, even if one were to accept your argument, that is, that casualties are inevitable in war that the okay. and this international law does not suggest or does not allow for you to indiscriminately kill civilians. it does not, it does lives. it does that absolve you of your responsibility to make sure that
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somebody is very bad. you waited from a hospital for, for 4 years. and then finally, then i want to get your response to this. and then also, you know, you say these are legitimate military targets, but when you, when you blow up a hospital or when you, when you destroy a school or a mass, these are not the military targets as such. and the only way they will become military targets is if they were to lose that status. and to date there's been almost no evidence presented by the state of israel that these targets have lost their status, their protective status, that they are legitimate military targets. and even if they were, because how mazda is in there, you still have to evacuate civilians just have to give the mean time to get away. if the buttons don't leave, you don't just get the blow up the place because they, they civilians haven't left a, a whole more records. you can't for example, um, what do you make sure? what is the question? my question is, what do you, what do you make of the geneva conventions and all these other international legal statues that make it very clear that you don't have the ability or the right to blow up houses of worship, or hospitals or schools simply because you believe that
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a mass agent may be in there without taking proper measures and without making sure that civilians are protected. i don't. okay. i heard you. i don't see if i, i not sure that you. if you read, you know, the thoughts we saw was the respect. it is not that we believe that's how boss is using it. it is because we know it and we present the real evidence. real evidence in every case is the case of moss, is a case of hospitals which we did not adopt by the way. so what i'm trying to explain is a 1st law ever in which is this is how much the organization or what we called the dollar lifting. garza is using the civilians as a human issue. i'm not inventing it,
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you just have to go to the internet at the moment. what, what, whatever, whatever it is you haven't, that's there because to data, actually no evidence within it. it's pretty heavy. this go on my website for the last 10 years, the mazda website, how much the website is saying that you're saying that your proof that how much is using human shields, is that on a mazda is website, is what is, what is the last say on the on her mazda. com is it, uh, we, uh pick 1010. i have 2 minutes in order to give you those phone. yeah, i'm just asking what the evidence is, because you have to present any evidence. you just go to a master's website. it is in your and suggesting it well, how much is the website they acknowledge that they use human shields? that that's your argument. yes, yes, yes. okay. um i just, i, i only know i have no, let me finish my arguments and then do whatever you want. ok. i then you go, how most websites,
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and for the last 10 years or was i see this flap the geez is to bring in the middle of this. it is in order for these waves, soldiers as matters civilians as close as possible and send the war. we understand and then what we support say, this is a strategy. and in addition, you know, in gaza, they built this, you all show that i'm the wrong city on god. you're only by how much activities and how much columbus know what a cnn c media can cards, or if it is true that a mazda strategy is to hide in the middle of civil society and surround themselves with civilians. if that is true, are you suggesting that you didn't have a right to attack them there and indiscriminately killed civilians? on is not the case in which we know for sure that ccs,
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how many totes are. unfortunately, when we heat it, meaning to target unfortunately, and resolve any intention civilians it died. so what i'm saying, so israel is now killed 30000 people over 12500 and those of those 30000 people are children. on average 10 children are losing limbs every day. and as a near starvation, there are several reports of people eating, grass, and animals the to survive. this is the reality. at the end of november, you said that you called don't think that the military can achieve its goals without doing exactly what they are doing today. now in the now, as we said here, now what we said here in march of 2024 with 30000 did go 2 thirds of the women and children, 12500 kids that 10 children losing lives every day. these still believe it, the military's doing exactly what they have to be doing. no, no,
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not listening. i said, zip, zip, military action on the if you asked me, we have to stop immediately as this is why, why do i do know that the reaction on the military goals which we cannot use every day when we go to fighting we are cheating nothing. because because of your money and your human instead of disaster, which is creating event, you mean is not what we want. this is a function of how much and we are losing this wall, not because we are noisy on the bottom. how does it matter if i'm able to do this? for example, when there are a 100 people or a 112 people were killed, defenseless effectively are waiting for a humanitarian, a truck, and is really forces killed them even though they are not engaging in any kind of
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military action. how does what, how, how is that, how mazda is fault, and not just these really militaries. for me to stop this interview, it just to push a button. if you go, if we should go, i know you're willing to push a button. i don't know what i'm saying is under, under what circumstances i saw and under the circumstances, what is a modified doing some of these actions. i'm just asking awesome to every interview just like the war and we have to abide by the rules. and my question for you is, when a 112 people are killed, thinking humanitarian a by, is really military forces. is that how mazda spot, or is that purely the fault of these really military? i'll give you an opportunity answer. no, it is a responsibility to know what it is that you really don't have disaster. that's how much wanted to be creative and we did not understand it and we are going on with the use of military power. what i'm trying to explain my view is that we have to agree by ceasefire immediately because we are no z z the
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world of ideas. the secondary motion of this war is a level 5 years. and in order to dispute how much we have to do so we need or what we can do in order to smoke, to it's really very power. and we should not go on doing what we have to do is to create the horizon as opposed to the horizon, which is the support. so the egypt, jordan, and the rates learned, oh is it out of state or sign or the arrow present is your zip. they zip. how much would it be depleted? how much would it be defeated on your wishes? create it better, not your fault, but
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a scene is it for you right now is the moment that we should create a process that's going to bring us through the reality of states. how much is the paint that you will not be supported by more than 50 percent of the students and the us up days they will stay as a police because they know the key. i have no problems. this is my view. understood in december you spoke about how there are too many, what you call chaos agents in israel, whose political goal is to create a human disaster in guys that you call this radical and fundamental stating, quote, this is exactly the theology and the strategy of isis and of l k that quote, are these k us agents in your estimation? you're just the pull some soft is, are they put additional?
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and so i can tell you that via and smart region, just saving all goldman. i totally disagree. reason. unfortunately these are elected. unfortunately, they brought us to create this disaster as this was, this is exactly what, how much expected is this is why the celebrating as this is why they are getting support to buy more and more for the students and more and more people in our states, they makes that makes it so. so from your perspective, it's not going to be at mit benjamin. that's in yahoo. all this whole cohort of people are advancing or kind of extreme is city ology designed to create a humanitarian disaster. i. by the way, i, i, you mentioned that, you know, i don't seem to, this is what you wanted, but to use it to the partnership and you do not, you do not control spanish and are or is this problem is this extreme is coalition
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guiding the policies of israel. yes. and are they being successful in guiding the positive israel in persuading? nothing else up to now? yes. okay, so you said that just so i got this right. there are extremists who are guiding the policies of israel towards humanitarian disaster. in guys that these people are successful and intentionally creating humanitarian disasters and gaza. and yet when i ask you more isn't responsible for humanitarian disaster, the you say no. you see the contradiction there. you said you said the guiding him successively toward creating humanitarian disaster and then i say, hey, there's a humanitarian disaster. and you said in our fault, please explain the contradiction. the contradiction is that how much is responsible? disease disaster and we are stupid, you not to have to. okay, this is the way i explain it. okay. this is the dream will come us and we do not
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understand it from the very beginning. and we often surprise, unfortunately, a studious how the studious operating surprise, because we did not understand the existing agreement from us. and in addition, we were a lot because after the service of october, we had to go to war against time us. and this is the result. so you believe that the problem here is that these really government at this stage has fallen into a mazda is trapped by exactly right. exactly. so falling into a massive track doesn't absolve you from your responsibility is an international law. it doesn't absolve you from the crime genocide of either the number of any of the natural law. but uh, what's your means, i'm forcing sir. man, i'd have to do something. you do not understand what juno started this point about what's inside of what we've done is i genocide is to keep it people
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in the home or in part or in a home or in part by international, in a home or in part based on a racial ethnic pool, or national identity, that's for an international law, and we are getting one percent of the child population, the guy who has been killed this one out of 75 guys has been killed. we do not test . it will be the posting. it's. we have to was how most, but you're killing palestinians o generals are saying again and again and again. we have to ever see in order not to eat. so now it's because this is not all. so just to use your example, if, if the, if the commanders are saying do everything, you can not to hit civilians and a 112 civilians are killed while waiting for humanitarian aid on arms. and by all accounts and not at all, confronting is really military who's responsible. i ask you again. first of all,
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it was a huge reason. if you ask me z, we try to bring you many sorry for the never seen and exist on board was attacked by people the most. any good to me. it was a huge problem, a huge mistake and i hope that we shall not doing it. it was the military, it was, it was the idea of some state you're saying it wasn't me. let me stay just a little bit because early on the other thing is it was nobody's thoughts. i'm glad you've already moved on the inside. you know, i appreciate you say, i appreciate you saying earlier in interview said something different, so i'm glad that we have clarity now that it was their fault when you, since october is this case. yeah. the most amc, i said was, what was it,
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how was it? how mazda support? you said it's not anyone's part of the case. okay, what, what was your that's fine. well, we don't to put well the audience and we'll see for themselves. i'm new called for the release of jail palestinian leader of motor one. but i'm deep which is also one of the current demands of him. as you said, that this will create the conditions for meaningful negotiations from anybody who is viewed as their nelson mandela. and recent polls suggest that he will be a prime candidate to lead if he were released and they were open elections. right. do you believe it has released can lead to more diplomacy or a way for it in the conflict? i've seen just the process that i see is in the military operation. we just use fire and getting, bringing back all the hostages and releasing all day. but i just need a presence that we have to really get ahold of what jesus didn't and was
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hearing what i'm afraid of that. um, is that zip i've seen here, we go to elections, we out the political horizon. and i hope that when we should have the ability to go to resin, which really supported by or the world america. so during the i or the states, the way it is, you're going to be released on it then they will go to elections. and the way i understood the policy and the societies they didn't vote for uh, for murder on the, and the would you believe he's not the how much he's not the most activities you believe in the states you float? because he did not believe that we should do 1st thing in the states unless there was a fight. so whether he was right or wrong, i know discussing it. now, this is the story we didn't stay doing. also, what a student didn't state farm across the states as the responsibility is sure,
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i'm trying to discuss the future as this is why i think that when it was delivered to raise it. and when the 1st thing is with go to elections, you should be really, you should be a company that is the way i understood posting is there when volkswagen. mr. i alone. i appreciate your time. i look forward to talking to you again soon. well look to soon, but thank you very much. take care everyone that is our show upfront. we'll be back next a booth, cold occupation resulting in a hurry stick a time. i'll just say it was investigated units interrogates the evidence and
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reveals voltage present it to the world to justify these rails, the cell phone gossip, dozens of children, bounce him up during them and executed them. this information has been used by official spokes person october 7th, on tuesday or this freedom of speech on the internet. a right for some but not for others. palestinian or airbus content has been removed or restricted when he bu, content hasn't just 0 world investigates whether social media platforms moderate content equally, especially in times of complex. there's a good understanding of the matter as the press. there are the standards between israel security services and other parties like my to close cyber space on adjusting it on the 1st. and i saw that we see in the real time it's the victims themselves. there's a disconnect between what we are witnessing on social media versus what we're
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seeing on mainstream. it is always an attempt to frame as to side of them, but there is no 2 sides to this. the western media does have a western bias. understand what they are looking to raise the listening post covers how the news is covered, the the for the back door. this is a news our lives from the coming up in the next 60 minutes is really strikes target, displace, palestinians sheltering intense and southern gaza at least 15 people that kills the the palestinian health ministry says for starvation in northern guys that has reached dangerous levels with 25 people dying of hunger and dehydration,
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