hello, re shelves. this area last night as to the infirmities was remo, done with their tears and heart breaks this year with detailed coverage. the gaza strip has 1100 patients with chronic kidney disease. we need 3 treatments a week from the heart of the story. these far hope has been diminished. their prayers continue with a situation to get it to the are not as presidents as being forced out after only a year in office in 5 months old is the latest high profile, figured to be telephones in the country importance to both china and the west. so why has he's gone and what are the international implications? this is inside started the

hello and welcome to the program and go about this. and now a year ago, 5, our tool became president of yet not we've just a 98 percent of a vote at the national assembly. no, he's out of all those other big figures. toppled in an anti corruption drive. but really in communist parties, as he's damaged what it calls the public perception and the reputation of the party and the state vietnam's tons formation from a victorious button. busy right, which country in the 1970s to original economic power has, has been spectacular. no countries, particularly the us, are bringing investments and not weapons, but delicate diplomatic. footwork is needed by how do i to keep good relations with beijing? so what is the hosting of vietnam is present meaning for the country, and what might it's international impact be? we're going to begin with this report from let me call socialise on another fall from the top and handling. vietnam, 2nd president in just over a year has clicked valve on palm. the youngest president in the country's history

took charge last much of the southern dismissal of his predecessor over corruption charges for him is the latest official to leave office during an intensified campaign to come. this party says his shortcomings had negatively affected the reputation of the faulty and the states. we're the global, i will do anything that's a benefit to the people and avoid anything. the tonsils to the people will be determined in the fight against corruption and negative phenomena. while one song was bodies regarded as being close to the poppies, general, the secretary you own for shown the most pulses to get in the position of the preston is knowledge. and he said, munoz, the french tug in the country's political, high, rocky, older voice press them both sealants phones and serve as acting. preston. tombstone phone is raising questions about vietnam's future leadership. the next national congress with

a new need to could be voted in should do for 2026. vietnam is one of the easiest fastest growing economies and separate invest in companies are using it as a manufacturing base. the southeast asian country also sits at the center of the us and china struggling for global influence. and the spear repeated re shuffles of top political leaders could hurt business sentiment in the country. it's very important for the policy to really balance a healthy legacy between how right now just the culture but retaining a good. they're open to the system and to maintain nobody. so economic growth because they come to grow as we ask the most important take faulty performer. basically, i get them to see the coffee and this, they kind of perform the, you know, i kind of grow really well. it will lose. the apple is all vietnam's gen reset for

d u and for shown has always seen a new decade loan crack down on corruption called blazing furnace. it's led to the investigation of thousands of officials and swans exit has now let the country y t known for stability into uncharted territory and the consumption eve. i'll just see the inside story. okay, we're going to unravel the many strands to the story with our panel of experts in conroy. we have hong young who's a senior electra vin university and a widely published political scientist and camera. carlyle parents, a professor emeritus at the university of new south wales camera. is also a veteran, southeast asia, regional specialist and brisbin. we have younger hi zane, whom you hired from an i'll report a moment ago. he's a visiting fellow with the eye. sees yourself a shocked institute. thank you very much indeed. but i want to start with carlisle fair. just give it a little bit of background. so if it finds time to correctly,

the presidential role is set to be large. the side of monia. why is this change significant? well, they say ceremonial, he has constitutional duties. are quite powerful, all subject to the approval of the national assembly. but he is the leadership faced with counterparts around the world for when jeff tom has raised relations and he was ranked number 4 and the political bureau in terms of the voting after the last party congress at 5354 years of age. he was one of the only 4 members that would have been qualified under present rules to occupy one of the 4 top leadership positions at the next party congress. unless exemptions were made. and he has a tremendous support among the use of vietnam because he came up through the communist party to use the union itself. and he supported the secretary general noon from the drum in his athletic corruption campaign. and he was a deputy on the committee for am time corruption, a hi home,

you're given everything that kind of guy who's just explained why is this reason questions about the political stability of vietnam, particularly given if i understand correctly that the, the vietnam as a country but also the, the communist party particularly, is very used to long term funding. why is there this risk of political instability? well, i think the full being not because it is a one party systems. so those political stability is very important. so that's why a change of any disruptions, the parties really so concerned about the because because they see 3 different stage, they cannot make developments. and as well as it cannot be performed on these bodies for legitimacy and also the powers of the poppy. and that's why the, the,

any change the policies, what is a field above? and of course, he's been trying to maintain stability and just a full, fully and um, you know, to, uh, to attract uh for the investments. because really he's back in florida. and it's to them in the face of the external investors part the try to keep the stability solar even even though as to what i was to the by the last a got a perhaps some scandal, but the still trying to keep these past. and it was on the face of the party, you know, to, to sell to the outside of the top of the country is being stable. and the other thing i, they, as far as i can tell there aren't too many details being given about why the

president has been told to step done in your assessment. what do you think the possibilities might be? well, i mean, the also announcement of the comments on the site that we're going to complete the, you know, something doesn't, the member should not do. and normally for you how far is not a side of the visits and kind of a you want to make a point. i think it's either of north which of the secretary general took office in 2016 and then began to launch his campaign. this goes back 12 years. is there no statute limitations, for example of and also it causes the question, what's called a strategic godrays that he was parachute is to them and to make one guy province and may not even know what was going on or ignored it. but they were staying at the

promulgation of what things party members should do, and kanto came later. so this is really going back into time, and it does raise the question, kind of the ministry of public security at any time for political reasons. and then the party announcement said, recently new information became available. so this is quite extraordinary. something that happened 12 years ago to the code of apologize done it in public and have that apology accepted, put a rubber band in his file and told you're on probation for the rest of your term. let's see how you do. hi. hi. how you doing? i'm how do you think the people in vietnam are reacting to this, given the points that they, they are the other 2 guys have just said not least that this happened about 12 years ago. all be that maybe the evidence may have them here just a month ago as well. so for the general population, i think these the news came. s a shock for them because yes, we do to us,

we've changed to precedents. so for the general public, they didn't understand what happened, what is going on. uh, but i, i just want to follow what com and just to mention this before, i think uh no, uh, bring it in 2013. um, when its got to it was the uh, service on the part, the secretaries a while i plug ins. and um, actually the public security um the industry. so it would be uh scott, uh kind of um a, a link between just a construction project. when i uh to and also um, out of a leak. um however, i think um, uh, is very hard for the uh, the people to understand why the public securities did not seem to be did not. um, uh uh you know, make uh something more uh, you know, kind of independent. uh,

actually do you know, to be done. and so i think it comes to the questions of the mechanisms to come to the questions. okay. if you see all those discounts and you know the weight with those onset, uh well it has to be done apparently is it has to be in 10 years. what do you need? the question is now why potty just, you know, we talked to some things that happened, you know, 10 years ago. so, so the people don't really understand. so that's why i think the question about a kind of being fighting with the properties window is really a really cool options. um, uh the season oh is really about 20 to go a month device and the 8 finding between functions with the departing full powers given the fact that the of the next congress is within the horizon just for one year. it's time. and that's all i want to pick up on that point. that home young

was making me the head of the communist party and young phone photo is 79 years old . i think that point has been made. that has been the suggestion is jocelyn for part going on behind the scenes, particularly for the party structure after strong eventually leaves alters what are the chances? do you think that the coming president are the mediately pharma prize and it has been coal top in those uh maneuvers? i think it's very likely. and i believe the fingerprint, so the total on the minister of public security are all over this. we have a current secretary general, so this house is questionable. he's a strong rab, if, if he can't proceed over the next 21 months to shape that the next part of leadership, he's in fact heading the personnel committee. that's there to that and select candidates for the next party congress. and he's already received, pushed back at the front of last year in october. he was too strong. also,

we should be called the last party congress. he nominated a successor, was going to retire, but the central committee overturned it. so we've seen that the party secretary general is not all powerful. he's the weekend now. he had a stroke of 2019 a serious illness again this year. and the what i call the party way, ministry republic security, the secretary that wants to retain their power. and if they lose him, they may not. and the so called government way which is has lost power since i went to thomas taken over, wants to use this opportunity and their vehicle would, would have been bob on to a younger man who was why do we by the light? and i think the public security could not know which direction he was going, so they use this evidence against him. you know, it hangs on the funds on too long. i was elected with over 98 percent of the vote at the, the national assembly. i mean, how awkward is this?

how much of an embarrassment might this be for the communist party when they play the place so much faith in this individual living for a year later to us than from office. it is me a very negative image that the company's poppy houses up to the operation because it is the out of price the i think it will also be very positive id to think about how to people healthy box between the options and also you don't see how pushing a lot of the incumbent girls because i think as moment way to jump up to the story it's not really. busy well, for me, uh, come out here i, i want to ask you about the, the economy side of this week, ment, touched on this earlier on that this is likely to have any i or you can help you. in fact, we mentioned that there are a lot of international investors in vietnam for regard vietnam as a very viable alternative. so to say, doing business in china 9 assigned to the 50 us companies in the trade mission and

vietnam at the moment. how do you think the vietnamese are going to be trying to persuade them that everything is stable? well, they've been through this before and they will tell them they both say you're the president. trump back long died and office vice president took over for an introvert period. which is just on and then the party worked out an arrangement. in that case, it was unique for the part of the secretary general to simultaneously hold both positions until the end of the term. once that term under a new president was elected, the same will happen now. so that between now and may, with the part of the central committee normally meets, i think the party will get consensus and we will find a person that will then be put back before the national assembly to replace the current vice president. and so all across the board, the, the get to me is officials from these 50 american company representatives, a meeting where we telling them it's stable. it remembers that context is in the

last several months, vietnam is upgraded, it's relations with japan, the united states and australia, and the previous year, south korea to the same level as china, russia and india, a comprehensive strategic partners. the set a piece about as we've heard from young is economics. yes. to move into the 4th industrial revolution technology innovation move from processing to innovation. and that's what the f bomb needs it wants to achieve. the goal by 2045 being a modern industrial nation, it's a halfway point. it needs a growth rate of 7 to 8 percent. yes, it's growing at 5 percent. they need access to the west. and china stuttering along the global economy is not kicking, kicking on well, and so they made that particular choice and an all stop. so be pull to reinforce to the rest of business man. that it's, that business counselor arrive and work and get them to help me. you know, i want to follow on from that because carla was outlining what appears to be

a tight milwaukee, essentially for vietnam that it seems to be managing up to this point very successfully between balancing all the it's interesting we've, we've 2 competing countries. how does it do that? well, the dogs at the moment, se ceilings a, what's it called back? no diplomacy. so they try to keep the strategic balance between so major pablo and i think the apartment has to be successful and seem to get launched the budget in 1996 team present. and so it is a success i think of, you know, i'm trying to please well, i'm boarding major pilots and it has the site the it will not take side. we weren't going on. and because on the other hand, getting on board, so has the doctor the to for knows different policies. it means you try to keep the

countries do, you know, the neutral up was the sense. uh so uh, so with the rising, the, the rivalry speech in china is and do not to sit at the moment. so, so it's, we can see that the account has not means well in the competition between the 2 major problems. and also in the case of us, any advice and somebody brain been um, i think the phone because of the point of view is something i do not know um western is but uh tv. now the tv it um has done well. um, because it on the slow countries and most of the weapons of vietnamese are mandatory in department is imported from the soviet union. and from russia, soviet them has to applies to gain costs. you know, the 2 of you know, protect speeds and that's the national interest for me in the us, the most important,

problematic approach. now these desktop detroit studies something that's a loan for the past in the past. the company is a potties. oh, how, what's it going into national reasons, but now they put more emphasis on national interest. so that's why the see so far has been the best deep america purchased stuff do not have stickers in order to be taught benefits from just the strategic relationship with both by to a pallet. um you know, and a high size. uh, we're just looking at some pictures there um of uh, the central honda royd and i was there last year and it's an incredibly bustling and and vibe in the city. it is very strong tourism industry, of course, but the people themselves seem very industrious and seem very focused on business and making money. there is of course, on very large young population. how do you think young people in vietnam regards to

the communist party and their position within vietnam and the future of it? well, i think the thing is in my phones and getting the ideological considerations, a big thing for young separation. now they really want to get a job and but even the do not talk about it, it's mostly so i think this web thing thing for john was in the. busy and i had children in the week for the past few years, because when get now he's going know, i become original country. now allow me to collapse the demand more like, right? so please in terms of, you know, you have to capacity to just make our sunny. i asked you to, uh, to pay for environmental uh easy was for example, so that the only uh, the men all biased. ready and the problem, the problem is i didn't think always bought the totally understand. ask me is there also have try to accommodate the rising man of the, of the younger separation by

a big ball on, on are supposed to be that. but on the most of you to, to do besides. ready however, i think there is increasingly nobody's fired to either way that's on the spot, the controls, the society. and was that the sounds red separation ones to express themselves. and i think it's the can respond to the do not, you know, that's not the home as soon. busy it will be come. busy thank you know, oh boy, oh, a crisis. when he's done this one is do you know once it comes back to the opposite? but what do you hope you're spotty of of just moment the well because like we already said about on base with meetings as long as it goes up and things everybody else and so i can be roads. and oh, by 1st monday, tuesday populations are probably, you know, the operation they'll be willing to, to be changed, please install or start to become the goals. but when get now,

you know, if the growth is slowing down, there will be some, some quiet problems when so populations, especially the young one more exposure, you know, with more exposure to the west and with more exposure to validate the 5 question that you know, which is kind of performance. why does it have to sacrifice so much about that? so i think maybe it's the $18.00 that we have to consider like, uh, is attention about why is it about push fall back to what we say? no, it might be, for example, the phones if i 0 all we keep maintaining the square, you have a close political system that we know. if you do be a very big cardboard, lots of me color one, the last group i given what we just heard, is it likely therefore, that this kind of political upset and invited to columbus that we're seeing at the moment in vietnam isn't going to really resonate with the people in vietnam in more it's more likely other than as we've heard, perhaps our kind of question over whether or not it will apply it's being brought

in. but at this time, 12 years after the incident of it initially happened to do you think that the big, the concern for the vietnamese government is more external about how the image of yet nom is being affected. raul, the van out of the people of vietnam were being affected. all right, well, i can make the point that because of the way it was announced, had they not taken action against the above and of the population would have known anything about that scandal. so although they say the parties being heard, it's only because they made it public and people are wondering what's occurring the x terminal thing. yes, that is that will be a consideration. but they've been there and done that. they have a mechanism of vice president and then picking a president is fixed, is compressing the decision making time because the congress has upon us, is high, said it's on the horizon and they have to, it's shortening the time period for building consensus. but the next part, central committee inmate will reach that consensus and easily be

a caretaker or someone who's chipped given a a leg up if you will, to be re elected by the party congress. the forgive me car lot because i'm going to go to high home young with with this to bring it back essentially to this, this track down and corruption which has been running since 2016. it is still running, and we're still seeing very senior figures within the vietnamese government toppling as a result. can it actually be called a success if it is not yet achieving the goals that it had initially set out to achieve? i'm sorry, it has to be the great success because in jesus and never peter, he stories up to comment as a party of the times so many high ranking officers asked me about displaying arrested in prisons. i think, i think we some okay, as a positive side of the political development scheme,

they one part the states like vietnam because it be me, look, uh, you know, well, we try to make a very simple comparison between china and vietnam and on. so we kind of come this country's, i think the about the small advanced and anti corruptions campaign. and some people say, well, a job will vietnam beach us a copy or duplicates, want to see can be more china is doing what people navigate for my point of view is to be a dog as more thoughts. um, i think um that will be a site for us just never be you know, before you know, she's stories of up and times or even the china is the president was relieved from the season because of that the guy said is of linkages with the call option, so i think he's really a great success now the, the, the question now is when, oh,

but what would happen when job stepped out? because a lot of you know about emphasis now is on a job road in the end. talk about some get that. so that's why many people now have us. wow, it's good to know the anti corruption campaign wouldn't be optimized as a sub job. i would say the above the assistance of a separate chubby jones now they have no other choice. so they have to continue to enter in groups and get paid. and it's, it's a very big the mistakes and still good for the beeps. i told him about the mental groups and campaign because all the systems now has to be entrenched. but when the mechanisms now has to be the place, the people, the public's general public way to compare when asked if they see something, you know, if something not the means. don adds,

it has to be the color of this very quickly. we've only got about 30 seconds before the end of the program, but i do want to ask, you've given up the level of economic involvement in vietnam and how important it is to the, to the economy. i'm should western investors still be comfortable with investing in vietnam just within about 25 seconds if you could. all the answers yes. and then all the, all the comprehensive strategic partnerships. there was a great stress on economic relations, a trade and investment in vietnam. and yet novice the 2nd charge of 16 free trade agreements to bridge the comprehensive trans pacific partnership. and the regional economic partnership are underway. so there's an outside binding of vietnam to international norms to world trade organization and international labor organization standards. and i want to thank you all the junk money for being with us on inside story. thanks of all i guess. hi, home, young,

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