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shows this area last night as to mean families was remo, done with their tiers and heartbreaks this year with detailed coverage. the gaza strip has 1100 patients with chronic kidney disease. we need 3 treatments a week from the heart of the story. as far hope has been diminished, their prayers continue with a situation to get it to the the hello i'm elizabeth put on and this is counting the cost on allison. so you are, you, we came look like a world of business and economics this week, nuclear power, as back in the energy debates, many nations are expanding the police of a ton of plans. so is it on the verge of a van, a psalms, the
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e u. has pledged opinions of dollars to cash strapped egypt and upgraded the relationship to a strategic partnership. so what's behind the deal? and tech talk face is a band in the us of a national security concerns. but the measure could had creations and businesses where it hurts most. the critics say, atomic plans, dangerous, expensive, and taking a long time to build the nuclear power is being touted by some as a clean source of energy. well, many nations a meant to be called and not as an out building new react is which and mainly supplied by china and russia and $22.00 countries pledge to triple the nuclear capacity by 2050. the cop $28.00 climate sounded last year. the international atomic energy agency expects global nuclear power generation to reach an old time high next year. it says investment will need to more than double to $100000000.00 by 2030 to meet the powers agreement climate target. so let's take
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a look at the expansion of nuclear plants, leading the race as china with 23. react is under construction, and the a has 7 to kia has for the united states remains the top producer of nuclear power . it's investing millions of dollars a new technology. such a small margin of react is known as f and mazda it easy. it cheaper to build and also flexible, t for locations unable to accommodate traditional launch a reactive s a mazda, a few would with low enriched uranium. russia dominates the small kids with almost hospitable as commercial capacity. there are only 2 major west and supplies of enrichment services. they are francis of ronald and your rank code, which is a u. k. jim and dodge console team. china has built in richmond capacity to meet its own needs. now in parts of europe, there is still resistance to nuclear energy. germany, italy and miscellaneous, phased out nuclear power for electricity generation or the environmental concerns.
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and fee is of another accidents such as japan because she meant is off to in 2011. but elsewhere, there was renewed interest in nuclear power and that the global energy crisis and common mutual goals. the international atomic energy agency expects up to 13 countries to start producing electricity from nuclear power within the next few years. and they include bond division, egypt. the eye is quoting on global development backs to funding new projects, warning that affect you to invest in nuclear power could delay the energy transmission. will leaders have gathered in brussels for the 1st nuclear energy summit. i somehow bought our reports to this summit is a remarkable indication of that changing political landscape. no believe 2 years ago in europe, for example, the 10th was basically to scrub nuclear plants reactors and move to renewable energy. except the 3 key facts has come, the and they,
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they some change of how to happen. climate change and people concerned about the future. warning, ukraine's european saying that it was about time to devise to tie themselves away from russian enforce. and they're concerned about the volatility of the energy market, and particularly the potential for a little complex and was in the, in the middle east. so they said that there's absolutely no way we can to rely on renewable energy of the only way out for us to be able to move to more sustainable economy is to expend the nuclear energy capacity in different parts of the. well, it's a problem that to keep layers, for example, the french and the germans. don't see i. so i, when it comes to this, the french up above that expanding the germans shut down all the remaining react spanish following suit with the germans. but however, you have many of the countries like hunger, you check. yeah. and many of the countries in europe expanding and building more react us. so how to narrow the differences between these countries. there is
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a hope that in the summer there was the able to convince many global key players and which countries to for more investments into this more and more than the reactors and the advance mode that are reactors. these are very small reactors require less investments and who's safety features uh more improved. but you know, you have to get to the point where you can establish at a vast chain of supply to be able to commercialize those reactions and made them available in the market. and that's the helpful for the world. leave the beating of the summit, which is basically to get to the point where by 2050, the reason the targets of saying that with finally climate, you to push them on the bottom. i was just beautiful. counting the cost brussels. joining us now from powers is pull dawson, who's the founder and chair of the nuclear consulting group. thank you very much
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for your time, mr. goldman. so as will lead as meets the 1st nuclear summit. why is atomic energy back in the debate? it's actually this will turn to stand why the new key is black in the debate. so it could be basically, it's a bit of a loss. john's guns for nuclear renewables, about $4.00 to $5.00 times cheaper than you're new to 87 percent of the new electricity generation capacity worldwide in 2023 was new renewables with nuclear nowhere. and one of the key energy instincts, organizations a world wide, including the international energy institute, say that renewables will do the heavy lifting for net 0. so why then is the international atomic energy agency and a few others saying that nuclear is so important? if the world is to transition, you know, to clean the energy. well, i mean,
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the head of the idea is just met with the bush outside to the syrian dictates a in damascus to agree on a new engagement between the i a e, a and syria rushes is a major play in global a civil nuclear. so there are some significant questions to ask about some the relative morality of, of, of this new fuel push it is being talented as a clean or clean energy source. is it not? well that if you take into consideration uranium mining and transport processing the operation, decommissioning waste, then absolutely not. and then if you're then going to think about accidents incidents, trying to focus shame a 3 mile island and the risks involved. i mean, we know what's been happening is uppercase here, where the grace of god, according to us. uh and uh, you know, we've escaped to
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a disaster. so there's some very real questions associated with this near to push, which is to assign a centralized cpr. okay, so you're assessing the question and begins to international atomic energy agency and the agenda. but what about institutions like the international energy agency base for can january of the importance they said of the nuclear come back to meet the increase in global electricity demands. yeah, but the international energy agency themselves say that renewables will do the heavy lifting. and if you want to talk about some substantial institutes, the i p. c. c, the international panel on climate change stage. quite clearly that we have to really get emissions done by 2030. now the i p c will also say that renewables up 10 times better the nuclear mitigating c o 2. and then let's go back to comp 28. now the big news on culture for nuclear wasn't
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nuclear wanted to be expanded 3 times by 2015. that's 3 times by 2050. the same code 28 said they wanted renewables expanded by 3 times by 2030. so new to 2050 renewables by 2030. now, what does that actually mean? that means nuclear 1.2, terrible, it's by 2050, i'm renewables, 11.5 tire. what's by 2030. so according to the science of nuclear is still much, you know. okay, you mentioned, you know, is that the reset and ukraine? how do you think that how do you assess the defenses at the moment to mitigate nuclear and accidents and countries that use nuclear power, especially as there was such a big push for us at the moment. there is a piano push, i mean that's for sure whether it's a kind of
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a last johnson gospel. when you get to push in structures, policy finance before the, all this advantages of renewables is too obvious to, to deny. but in terms of, of what we have um, it's actually very difficult to defend you. there's no way military, but you can defend a, a new 2 sides and increasing how unstable weld uh, that could be a problem. most specifically, when one thinks about climate nuclear has to be situated by the coast, large bodies of water or river. we know what's gonna happen with the coast. what's gonna happen is that sea level to rise, but the key concern is storm surge. where basically all of a sudden that's where it conditions to see basically ops and moves in line. so the real problem with nuclear is that it may actually prove to be a climates casualty, and a significant climate casualty there. of course, many other challenges isn't that there are so many reactive that are supposed to be
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being billed right now that are in the number of countries that a delay that are costing many times as much as they were supposed to. we are seeing a lot being made of smooth want you to react as do thing that they mitigate any of the challenges posed by the traditional launch a reactive. it's certainly true that laundry act is a huge here of the cost in case you have a time usually can only be built with voss public subsidy, which is why is a new chipping built in combining to control states like question showing the i to a certain extent a not like you re unpatched you. okay. um. now the issue as a mazda, a small amount of your wrapped is, um, basically there's no one s m, a in commercial production anywhere in the world, but simply doesn't exist as the most us still in development. and the great to for us the most was new scale as in law in the us. and that went to
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uh, that went to almost bankrupt a few weeks ago and is, is of the cost. so this is the very real questions, associations with us and my us not least the question of proliferation and security and safety. that's the document. thank you very much for your expertise on this. pulled off, none of the new k consulting group in paris. thank you. smell a drought in southern africa as effect in food production with crops dying from a lack of bullshit. some b, as government has declared a national disaster and the rest of the region is also on the pressure. hardwood tossed a report from head out, a range of being erratic for months in zambia. some farmers are now improvising to try unhealthy cops devised the heat. the drought has been declared a national disaster by the government. we've invested $5000.00. we expect at this rate, hopefully we can break even for this. that is
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a loss. the rest of the pharmacy might have not been able to save that. are facing a 100 percent loss invest. the dropped is also affecting mining and lemme to get it to to begin ration from hydro power, zambia africa, 2nd largest copper producer plants to import and russian power according to the world food program. but the wanna southern malawi, eastern and goal and positive mozambique ends and bob, we are also in trouble. mays is the staple food ends involve weight and the rest of southern africa as it gets hotter and dry across the region. meaning more families will need help to keep themselves fit. and bobby's government is working with agencies to assist communities. people living in dry regions. some of the most vulnerable put in my direct, got him as his i cold. my mace crap was the disaster. i have 2 fields, all the crops, are they the resources onto enough to help everybody on funding has been
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a challenge in these will continue to be a challenge because it is listed as i know it's always available. so the had in means to get up to about $43000000.00 of which only 55 percent of that budget is funded for douglas. so you can see that we actually have a huge ad is, will skip the drought is expected to slow down the economic growth of countries in the region and food prices are continuing to rise. that's making life even more difficult for millions of people in southern africa who are already struggling hard on task. so i'll just ask for counting the cost of the agent as an impulse and supply of natural gas to hear of the after nation is also a transit route for migrant seeking to cross to the continent that you is worried.
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conflicts and gaza and saddam could drive move refugees to its shows on woodson financial troubles in egypt, which plays a vital role in regional stability. the block has announced more than $8000000.00 and $8.00 to the cash strapped nation and upgraded its relationship with the kyra today marks a historic milestone with the signature of our jointed corporation for strategic and comprehensive partnership. and given your political and economic weight as well as your strategic location in a very troubled neighborhood, the importance of our relations will only increase over time. for the deal comes with concerns as well as planned ground defensive on the region of alpha and gaza could force hundreds of thousands of people into egypt sign i potential to egypt already host more than $9000000.00 migrants in refugees. president, top of the fact that on cc ridge related has nations commitment to cutting and
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legal migration. but the discussions address the importance of continuing to confront common challenges for people. most notably illegal immigration is, as we affirmed our commitment to combating this phenomenon the day is the latest and a series of agreements between the e u and most african countries and at stopping the flow of people across the mediterranean to europe. $5000000000.00 is for macro financial assistance. that's a loan. the e u is offering with low interest rates and favorable terms to help stabilize a just fleeting economy and looks of grants and loans paid over 3 years will allow egypt to better protect board is particularly with libya. it's a k transit point for people from being one poverty, an applicant and the middle east. and a you funds will support egypt and hosting. almost half a 1000000 refugees from saddam most have fled the needed year long conflict. their rights groups have condemned the deals. human rights watch criticize what it labeled a use cash for migration control approach,
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saying it's trends for terry involved as well. betraying human rights defend is joining us lawyers, an activist whose work involves great personal risk. joining us now from doha is osman to law. he's an economic and political risk analyst, and middle east and north africa director at the global council. thank you for your time, mr. hannah. it's often said that egypt is too big to be allowed to fail. isn't that how important isn't economic? it's political stability to the region. well, egypt economy beside this population is proximity to europe and its importance to the mediation process. and the israel palestine. conflict means that your couldn't witness a place like you to send it to greater economic term, especially as, as we've seen increasing numbers of egyptians use libya as a culture and bar cation for european found irregular migration. and that software gets that before the 7000000000 package from the u was approved. agents economy was
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on the break. and when do you imagine approve this long earlier this month and a $1000000000.00 long the, you felt that it was confident that he was going into a, into a direction of economic reform. and the i'm s. m s approval was a seal of approval. then you're going to, you could feel confident. yes, that it could extend this into to each, especially because i am if knowing was of course, dependent on egypt flow saying it's common. see, wasn't it you deal just the latest. you mentioned the, i am at the united arab emirates investing billions of dollars just how much will these grounds these lows, these investments, how the egyptian economy, not just in the short term, but in the long term between the island and the you and the world bank i'm the, i'm a rocky blanche. egypt has not received the close to $57000000000.00 of financial lectures, and this will be enough for egypt to meet its hard currency requirements in the short and medium term in the long term. beautiful make to will make to make more difficult choices. it will need to reduce spending on the projects with
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questionable economic returns. and they will need to develop its export, declined the egypt, and imports a lot more than its exports, which is what caused this fund. the squeeze and this foreign exchange crisis and more importantly, you will need to create a level playing field between the state and the private sector so that it becomes a more competitive economy. yeah, it's a lot of criticism off the ministry in the states finance. this isn't that you touched on what's happening over the egypt border with gaza, just how worried is the european union about what's happening and gaza and what that could mean for the flow of refugees into the continent. well, europe is more is worried about a couple of things with regards to guys of course of the displacement of students if goes to the sides. if the israel decides to launch an operation into profile, there will be a high risk of displacement into egypt which will create more economic pressure on,
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on egypt. and of course, getting to the your, the strength of stem migration is pursue the policy of border extra extra lives ation. by working with southern mediterranean springs to police, they're causing spencer, i thought a better screening prophecies accurate to ensures when those migrants have a ride. and we shouldn't forget that this is in the context of european elections in the summer, where the migration is a very polarizing issue. when were you, have you tried cleaning parties when the ascendancy in your and the european union and the policy that you were speaking of the extent analyzation of, of security? when it comes to refugees and migrants, it's been criticized before and the european union's own rights. what stock has criticized the laces deal saying that it falls short on human rights safeguards. how effective all such deals? well, this is a debate between values based versus security based approach to, to asylum seekers and irregular. um, uh, migration of the,
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the resources that europe is plowing into north and african economies. i see this treating the symptoms and not the root cause. the root cause is economic miss. my is meant and costly happening from this a health to north africa, to east africa, and economies that are failing. so these, these, these are much harder issues to solve that. so you're off for a band aid solutions helping to stem migration using the security based approach. and just lastly, mr. had all given that 2 thirds of egypt, sions accommodate 11 under the poverty line. how much do you think that all of these latest bronze, these loans will help the average rejection? well it's, it's hard. it's hard to see in a medium box to this, you know, to this trickling down to the, to the ordinary egyptian conditions have been suffering from the shocks. the fun stomach, the loss of towards them arrivals from the pest demick and you have this was kind of a reduction of revenue. so in the sense and then you have to put the complex and startling
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egypt and begins with down and, and, and the garza so as in terms of long term, beautiful need to have a structural reform to address address a trade deficit, then a desk burden. that's, that is driving the junction people's down and causing inflation and eroding their quality of life and increasing the poverty level that you discussed. hello, thank you very much for your time. thank you. the tech top has rules also has an influence, has overnight fame. the app is one of the most popular social media platforms with $170000000.00 uses a month in the united states, the lower box, it's owned by chinese company, but tons of the us as defense, ties with badging questions, national security, the senate could soon possible to band tech talk if the chinese on a doesn't sell at stake. a content creation in millions of businesses who make and live in posting videos could be effected. took talks is more than $7000000.00 small
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businesses and the us advertise products on it's app generating maybe $15000000.00 in revenue a yeah. the food and drinks industry of the health and wellness sector advertise most on the platform. and amazon is the largest single advertiser on sick talk in the u. s. is invested $22000000.00 in ads and 2022 followed by a television network, hbo, which spent $19000000.00. with joining us now from london is very meadow and vis. he's a professor of economics, so shell, gigi, and digital social research, i think a diversity of oxford and also of the book cloud. empires. thank you very much for your time. seriously. can you briefly talk us through how people make money on take talk? well, there's a few different ways that people make money on take talk to take them, does pay some content creators of the bases abuse, but the pay ups tend to be smaller than on. for example, youtube creators can also receive virtual gifts from us which
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translates into additional payouts, but creators tend to make the most money by producing sponsored videos that advertise products and creatives can also directly sell their own merchandise. okay, around a 3rd of us adults use tech taught. we know it's especially popular among young adults and tech talks as the 7000000 small, but this is in the us use the app. so what does that steak for creation for businesses? take talk has been especially important for small businesses to find new consumers . and it's been important for a lot of the creators who produce the sort of the content that goes viral and, and, and follows trends and appeals to the kind of mascot, a personalization algorithm that picked up. cuz a bell time can the content creators and businesses have the same success on other
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platforms like youtube, like instagram? the, the absolutely could or, or let's say if the tick tock disappeared today. instagram and youtube would probably pick up most of the business. but it's not necessarily the same business as the same advertises and the same creators that would strive on instagram and use youtube because take talk as mentioned, is all about appealing to the algorithm and, and following these hyper fast changing trends. whereas the other platforms are a little bit more about cultivating an audience of regular follow was. so the total size of the 5 probably wouldn't shrink that much. it picked up suddenly disappeared out of the scene. but that would be a bit of a redistribution for our off off income from some creates as to others. and some small businesses would, would probably lose out now the as possible again. okay,
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so on the redistribution, how much would a tech talk bad benefit of the social media companies? well, ad textbook share offering esco's video ad spend in the us according to data from the market to is about 6 percent. and youtube says about 8 percent and meadows, which include se instagram and on facebook is about 30 percent. so we're not talking about a huge of a part of the pie, but still noticeable. and then when it comes to the creator economy, it's much harder to say because there aren't really reliable statistics envelopes available on it. yeah, it took, taught finances on poverty, disclose just what kind of response looks right. um, can we expect from china if tech talk is in the band of the us? well, china already heavy restricts for and media ownership. so for instance, apple's media platforms like um, apple tv and apple books are already not available in china,
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and youtube is not available in china. instagram is not available in china, so the potential for sort of tips to top response seems pretty limited. but of course, china could respond in some completely different way, and this could easily accelerate the so called taxable between us and china. that's so far being playing out in, in the micro chip and 5 g networks and then cloud data centers because both superpowers view the global success of the tech sense as a central to jail, political power today. very let down verse i thank you so much for setting life on this for us. we appreciate it. thank you very much, elizabeth. and that, as i show for this week, get in touch with us on x, formerly known as twist that i'm at and is put on him to use the hash tag h 8 c t c. when you do or drop us an email count of the cost at eligibility, or dot net as our address and as well for you online at all, just a dot com slash ctc. that'll take you straight to
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