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it was exposed alleged government involvement in the smuggling monkey business on al jazeera. the report by a you in special rep or tour accuse is real of genocidal acts. in garza, the entire area has been classified as a military objective, making all palestinians there are potential targets. so how does the report reflect the reality on the ground? this is inside story, the hello and welcome to the program. i'm. i'm a general anatomy of a genocide is the title of a report by the you in special rapid tour for the occupied palestinian territories in just $25.00 pages, francesca, albany,
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the sets out and start detail. her belief that genocide is at the core of israel's war. on god, more than a $100000.00 dead and injured in just over 5 months. fueled by rhetoric from israeli government ministers to the humanized palestinians, and justify indiscriminate attacks. bombs dropped on so called safe zones where people were directed to go only to meet their depths, sustained attacks and destruction of hospitals and health facilities, denial of food, drinking water and medicine, and plenty more. will examine the report in detail with our guest shortly. first, this report from the costume sharif of the policy and mother grieving the death of the delta d. toodle and mohammed a terminal was killed by it's really shinning in garza southern city, a for alpha. as the depth destruction and suffering goes on a critical you and report now says there's reasonable grounds to believe is when is
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committing genocide in gaza. francesca albany is the un special rubber 12 on human rights in the occupied. palestinian ted freeze says there are 2 indications. israel has violated 3 or 5 acts listed under the un genocide convention. they include killing members of a specific group, causing serious bodily or mental home, and deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life to bring about its physical destruction. he's real has use become a flash of you money tare on low to characterize the entire police team and people in life sustaining a life saving infrastructure of gaza us target dable key level destroyer bu. d u and special repertoire says the relentless is rarely a tax on scale of campaign and also also showed genocide and intent, blaming statements by seniors, really, military and government officials in disregard of the report says the genocide as
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part of a long standing settler colonial process in that raising native palestinians, these acts of genocide have be motivated by the human on people as seen in this course which characterizes the entire public schema and people in gaza as enemies to be eradicated or 4 simply removed these rights are because being pervasive across those segments of these rarely society that is really high ranking officials, we've come on the top priority routinely called on soldiers to nicely to the people of gaza is compelling evidence of explicit and public consignment to commit genocide. francesca denise is calling for an immediate arms embargo and sanctions on is run. her report comes just off to the united nations security council voted for an immediate cease fund, cause a release of captives held that the policy being invested to switzerland said the report highlights how genocide has now become is really government policy in casa
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lindsey on the south door, but this has been clear to everyone since october 9th, when these randy minister russell announced that he would cut off water, electricity, food, and fuel from entering the gaza strip all by speaking of the posted in people as animals and not men. this was an explicit declaration of intent to commit a little crime, a crime against humanity and the crime of genocide by forcibly displacing nearly 2000000 palestinians and destroying more than half of the homes, hospitals, schools, mosques attaches to the board was immediately rejected by israel calling it an up seen inversion of reality. it's allied, the united states says the un drop, which was mandate is biased against this while a little on the ground and does a millions of palestinians us too long to attack, while many of also facing famine and disease with no end in sight to the suffering from the consumption of these,
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i'll just see the inside story. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guess and then i'm gonna let myself go to with the secretary general of the palestinian national initiative and verify and southern gaza use of how much goes advocacy officer at the norwegian refugee council and canterbury. jeffrey. nice and human rights lawyer who prosecute his former serbian liter solve it on the loss of a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us today on inside store use of. let me start with you today. what's the situation like on the ground right now in the rough i and as the special rep or towards report do an accurate job of reflecting what palestinians and guys are facing right now. the. ready go, i've been being change except for those 2 days in the sense that we are passing through it on that's going to be a little. ready that to figured out figured it out the issue or the dishes better citizens will outside the box as well. but unfortunately,
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that doesn't happen. i'm not going to be changing. so we have more ways if the displacements from another area of the area also. yeah. unfortunately, we were hoping that this would be a box. unfortunately, this, it seems that it is or endless nightmare that i'm going to use in the but i'm going so in goes up this document. and so and, and then it will be the roles, especially with the process kind of been in, it's much appreciated. i think the entire files or what's going on here. but i don't think that any, any for a cause and jessica, as far as getting find exactly what's going on here because this is the fee that we never our patient history before. most of one of the things that report says is the genocide is a process, not an act, it goes on to say that genocidal intent and practices are integral to the ideology
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and processes of settler colonialism. i want to ask you, if you think that the way the report laid out it's context of genocide when it comes to palestine and palestinians is, is accurate. absolutely. i think they put this very accurate on the district and on us and the fact that the link, the actual genocide that you see today and goes up to the, is it any behavior and unit on since 1914? it is. so because they have no sides of the back in 1942 to remove the flush, the non less than 70 percent of the understanding and popular and destroyed $520.00 . but this thing, communities committed 52, my seconds to force people out and the it does the important to mention that 70 percent of the population of guys though, refugees from that period from the time of the 1948 and the they haven't been
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subject to repeat that ok patients the the occupation of 1967 was not the 1st one that they were killed by the 1956 to they was subject to then also too much that goes about the cause much continue to down any time before. mainly because media is the catch and what's happening and is reporting it before. it was not supported and the one could not see what was happening. but the young lady i talked to earlier than any with the conclusion. this is a process of human side that is very much linked to design, is that it's just ideology of set of going on and isn't an idea that is express repeatedly by. is there any need those data goal is to take away the land. some palestinians, steve, the land clump on this thing as i'm to force them out of midland. this is once i understand the presence jeffrey, francesca albanese is report says that there are reasonable grounds to believe.
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israel is committing genocide in the besieged palestinian enclave of the gaza. strip, do you agree with that opinion? i don't think it's going to be very helpful for me to agree or disagree with that because for common k to, to make kind of thing like a final decision on accountability of this kind. help to view as very much i as well, he decided to help them is to understand the basis upon which people i call them easy and also the advice invited the international court of justice make the findings they do in each case qualified as being preliminary findings and she makes her finding on the basis of looking 1st the 2nd, but in reality, 1st for the evidence of intention and genocide is a crime of intention that the intention to destroy and hold part of group does the possibility of genocide anything else follows up funding now that funding is can be
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made either by looking at what people say and she refers to things set by the leadership. well, what is done which it might be. so he's consistent only with one of the ways in which genocide may be committed and she'd refer specifically to the level of carrying the quantity of damage done. so what it is clear as all the common cases closer to the action than i am people who are on the ground . that is indeed material of the country identifies to support a possible finding of genocidal intent. and then to support, why don't or other or the 3 ways in which she says the genocide may be committed. so it's of the, i think it's a very important report. and in particular, for the reasons touched on by most of it's
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a report which sets out that which is on speak will in the miles of the western powers who best social responsibility for the tragedy that has developed to which they create a part right at the beginning going back to the beginning of the 20th century, not just after the 2nd world who and in respect to which they have been didn't treat, reported mostly in sure. and it was either a one state or 2 state solution to a problem that was bound to arise. if you had 2 groups of people wishing to occupy the same piece of law that needed careful. power tree management for the external community did not need the worst besides the one side. so the outcome of failure to do what should have being done may do cause be said
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to be that which we have seen going back to a question there is cleared and material accomplishing phone people closer to the action that i have have found the genocide is indicated and the different tragedy. jeffrey, you mentioned the fact that the report highlights the statements that have been made by senior israeli military and government officials. i want to play for our viewers. a sound bite from the defense minister of his real. you'll have good want after october 7, this take a listen to. what do you have to say? then i'll ask you about, what do you mean? i have ordered a complete siege on the gaza strip. there will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. everything is closed. we are fighting human animals and we act accordingly . so geoffrey, as i said, this is one of the statements. one of the many statements by is really officials said after october 7th, highlighted in this report. also highlighted by south africa in it's case against israel as genocide. case filed at the international court of justice. just how
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damaging our statements like this going to be in the long run when you're talking about potential accountability or legal rep or cushions to do different type serves and pull this jermaine and pull this in terms of an accountability process for securing convictions or giving me an input for the effect because it might have on people working on the come on to the person concerned. it's important in both respects, but dealing with the sacrament for us because that's the, the critical one. if you aren't aware of this kind of conflict of this kind, the things you say is a leader may be taken on board by those who are at the front line. and the fact they respond effect the way in which they respond or do not respond to what they must be instructed and probably have been instructed. pablo, as a rule, if you say things of the kind said the, it's going to be much harder for you as
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a superior officer to criticize those. been a few, if they act outside the lows of wool. so it's extremely important. i'm very dangerous from that point of view, as indeed may have been the observations. it's also important, of course, because it may well reflect the mental state of the leader and his colleagues. if, when any of them as a must be brought to a criminal accountability process, just bear in mind last point, of course in moments of great crisis, intention of the attack of the 7th of october viewed so as it can be, will generate terrible reactions to people people may sometimes say, well, i said that in the heat to the moment whether that is water will be said by these people. and if it was said whether it will carry weight is not for me. but for georgia, reach you decide. in due course use of the report discusses,
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how is realtor salt has decimated guys as all ready, fragile health care system? we're talking about sustained attacks and destruction of hospitals and health facilities. how dire is the situation currently the symbol. ready if it isn't the 16, okay. they say suppose because open or do you guys are we have for the city. i mean, most of the generals because a 60 bit this is the biggest fortunately, the thing down to city the ship out while doing try moving it back again to send did send you and use mostly that i think we in the case, the sick to and if i'm certain guys, i'm the city of the city 6, your have boss no. and unfortunately related to the revisions we did, we have not seen an accent already investigated as trying to increase the,
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the oral trying to target the hospitals and his health care facilities. but yeah, unfortunately that's an extra community and we'll be discussing, discussing that that is a loans that are being drawn very. unfortunately, we were to see i did lie on the line off the line with i've been pleased and pros and we didn't see any feedback from the national community and the work. busy to the world, and now he's busy and if it's a desire to law and if it's method cut off and the, the academic says, no, it's got to be a base based on the circumstances that over to 1000000 people are wrong. so we have that. this is 6061 data to secure to be made because
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the last most image of the housing unit have been destroyed meant the direction of governors. this as a city have been destroyed and, and part of the, it's all the world to be. i think it was too many inconvenience. most of it looked to me like you were reacting to some of what use of was saying that did you want to add to what he was the point he was making? absolutely, i want to add about that situation, but before that i want to link uh what, what the video you, i've show and also go on to the minnesota for the friends and isn't able to send and you know, sizes about intention and, and actual practice actual and the things that people do in this case will have to go on said was implemented. he declared that she would impose children garza
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and. busy because i would not have any access to life saving good bye to the city. what are for the things? and that's exactly what i'm doing. now. we 1st 700000 people that have started in the north on garza and the whole of the government population. 2.3000000 people are suffering from malnutrition. as a matter of fact because of lack of access to clean water and the fluid. but the 1000000 people now and does the, a sick and menu of the amount of band motor that they should have already died because of my new position because of starvation and don't know and it goes on. but in addition to that, to the collab who was 3 of them as human animals and little guy thought they have done. they use indiscriminate the bombardment this little on does the 70000 tons of explosives that there's like attempt to collect grams of explosives. so each man, woman, and child, the outcome is shocking. 115000 people can do it. and just if we count
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those on the 39000 people, including 14500 children, 9500 women in the picture, it is clear. i'm more than that, the people are not allowed to be treated. the sick people are not allowed to receive treatment. 10000 cancer patients going to get an invitation that the people for thursday is doing. what there's uh, if it does not genocide the sky and the other side, i'm going to go ahead and take them to look at what they've done. they've destroyed them for the subject. so that's the life would be impossible. it doesn't. they want to make the police unlivable septic to out of step to success, but that is what destroyed $124.00. i'm going up says what destroyed 341. what comes on doctors would killed $300.00. others were injured. 240. where
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the federal gifted the most of them mind people have added to the tortured by is it or no, you have another sort of could well university schools, everything looked out of pipelines in for the sector, including solar systems, home destruction. massage is you know, side of course, most of them may, i just ask you because you're talking about the attacks and i want to ask you about the fact that albany is, is report is calling for an immediate arms embargo and sanctions on israel. is this going to put any pressure on israel? also the fact that the one security council resolution was passed and was calling for an immediate cease fire. does that in your eyes mean that you wouldn't member states or growing more in patient? i mean, could this all lead to any change and how israel is acting the assembly. okay. and do you know what is the main inside of the, pushing the cushions as small the aston avenue to the
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government's hu money. it will have been implicit complicit in the world. could i mind getting back to canada? i choose the united states of america, but doing that, but the public pressure is changing. governance policies, like we have seen in canada, and of course, when kind of the eclipse and they will not supply it. is it a little mixed on impact? i think the united states of america has now the responsibility of immediate sees or all the supplies of many 30 what funds to israel. the substitute is fire stumps . this done it. but as of the other side that is happening. goodness palestinians. let me tell you that because the people that action this was the evaluation and so on is that it would be nice to have, have an impact. but the list of many of those 10 governments and particularly united states of america and somebody will be on top of this, have really been complicit with the state of the crime. and they have to change
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that position because it wouldn't be a they wouldn't, they wouldn't be also at the participating in these what comes if they don't stop lift me. do mind do that. this is exactly what happened to the jewish people during the holocaust that and that's is going back to the course, but many others were complicit with that. and that's in the same mindset that allowed the genocide and the whole of course that gives you which people is the same mindset that is allowing this kind of a genocide unbundle course. again, it's been a since jeffrey um, i want to ask you about another aspect and in the report, the report says that after october 7, israel's characterization of causes civilians as a population of human shields reached unprecedented levels. and it talked about the fact that is really military leaders and government leaders were framing civilians and guys either is how mass operatives or accomplices, or human shields,
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among whom, how much is embedded. i want to ask you about the fact. i mean, international law does not permit a sort of blanket claim that an opposing force is using an entire populations as a human shield as an excuse to take any action they want on the battlefield. right? a correct and deals for the ripple makes this very point that each individual packed of florida or aggression by these are the defense force seeking to rely on human shields of so justification what they're doing on each individual act that has to be justification for what they do blanket defense is what justification says this kind well not to. and this was just looking at the horrible escalation of events in gaza. going back to the beginning, when commentators and officials were great here, contact on the ground were reluctant to find as against israel,
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who had his hostages, to find and so on. and was facing a terrible attack on the 7th of october, was reluctant to find criminality. quite rapidly became clear. the justifications in the law of rule for doing walks israel was doing seeing bravo, hard to meet so far as the test is concerned. and once you started using, once it was clear that dumble and so and not being used and not the bombs, the target specific within inevitable consequence. so, so cool collateral damage, which means depths of civilians. is it harder and harder to justify? and i think this is going to be in what right trust will be an accountability process and that we come back to that after i finish the sentence. and i think the accountability process is rather better be ready with written on tape
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co computerized records of its justification done by bomb bullet, by budget for what it has done because that is what will be looked for. jeffery, the criminal, i'm sorry to interrupt, but just to we are starting to run out of time. i want to ask you from your perspective, what's the likelihood of, of seeing prosecutions going forward? uh no, probably small because the western powers have no desire to see israel being or israel is ready. lead is being put on trial and a large number of potential him us defendants have been killed on the spot. and the others may be dealt because they may not within the is riley. criminal system are beneficial, but what we should old press the button and we should press our own prime minister here. and then going to say that there will be an accountability process. and
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anyone against who interest form is issued, for example, by the international criminal court. mister netanyahu himself then his allies will hand him over, because the interest of justice are greater than the interest of politics in this case. use if we only have about a minute and a half left, i want to ask you about what kind of trauma all of this is causing for palestinians in gaza. for those who have survived for those who witness so much death and loss, so much fear, how are they able to cope with that? the stages, the situation more related to baseball, submitted the work, ben. excellent. let's validate that, which is the, or the design to become somebody. this is denise is in the do this was, this is had to be before october bad. so the biggest
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expands, and i can see it may have been, i, sincerely, we need think age. so in the meant intended to begin state and i like that i think also got as god, but it's been taught to holding this message or should that be a see both of those guys up is not only you gotta really do you have a meeting that you need use a gun shop because the 2nd thing we're which is the key in our lives and all right, well, we have run out of time. so we're going to have to leave the discussion there. thanks so much to all of our guest myself a bit of what the use of how much and jeffrey nice and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website builders or a dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash age and side story. you can also drawing the conversation on x. i handle is a j inside story for me, how much enjoy them and the entire team here, by for the,
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